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5er posted:And later this year it'll be announced to be Japan-only, Wii U direct download exclusive... Only the 'Japan-only' part of that would bother me. 
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Samurai Sanders posted:Is the WiiU region locked? I just realized I don't know. It's a Nintendo platform sooooooooooooooo yes it is.
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Policenaut posted:It's a Nintendo platform sooooooooooooooo yes it is. Region locking a hand-held really was the lowest of the low. Speaking of which, is that 3DS Samurai Warriors game any good?
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Sakurazuka posted:Region locking a hand-held really was the lowest of the low. Despite making this thread I've never been a big fan of Samurai Warriors but I picked it up for the 3DS I got for Christmas, cause why not? I've actually had more fun with it than any of the other 3DS games I have. It's switching mechanic is surprisingly fun and the levels are designed around it. The only problem is friendship grinding but that's par for the course in modern Warriors games.
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Belzac posted:Despite making this thread I've never been a big fan of Samurai Warriors but I picked it up for the 3DS I got for Christmas, cause why not? I've actually had more fun with it than any of the other 3DS games I have. It's switching mechanic is surprisingly fun and the levels are designed around it. The only problem is friendship grinding but that's par for the course in modern Warriors games. Seconded. I have a 250 hour savefile on that game, and that's all from playing on public transit or breaks on work. It's one of the few games that had touch-screen controls that felt intuitive and useful, as opposed to the shoehorned gimmicky bullshit with the Vita's DW:Next.
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Probably the biggest thing for DW8 for me is learning about the new officers. I'm still having trouble remembering their names since all the sites are in Japanese  On the positive end, I've started reading Romance of the Three Kingdoms during my commute. I hope to finish it this time.
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Oh Sun Jian, I knew there was a reason I loved you.  The video I'm really looking forward to is Lu Bu, with the return of the old Musou Attack style in the new Musou Rage or whatever it is, I'm hoping we get back Lu Bu's original one. Or at least Pang Tong's. Upsetting that Zhuge Liang doesn't have his magic laser spam musou 
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Sakurazuka posted:Only the 'Japan-only' part of that would bother me. Basically. I'm still irritated I'll never get a chance to play SW3 given that 2/2XL is my favorite Warriors game. I've always liked that the characters in the SW games seem to have a little more personality to them as well. The Dynasty Warriors characters always seem a bit flat in comparison to guys like Shingen. Suben fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Jan 26, 2013 |
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Jan 26, 2013 08:31
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Suben posted:Basically. I'm still irritated I'll never get a chance to play SW3 given that 2/2XL is my favorite Warriors game. Hey, hey, you could totally still play SW3... on Wii. Or you could just import SW3/SW3E on PS3 and play them with relative ease thanks to GameFAQs/Koei Warriors translation guides.
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Raserys posted:Oh Sun Jian, I knew there was a reason I loved you. I love Jian but I hope they keep developing Quan instead of throwing him to the wayside whenever Ce and Jian are around.
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Suben posted:Basically. I'm still irritated I'll never get a chance to play SW3 given that 2/2XL is my favorite Warriors game.
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I'm getting back into the DW series and I have a couple dumb questions. The last DW game I played was 3, so it's been awhile. Should I play through all of vanilla 7 before starting XL? Or should I just pop in 7 to get a save file, then jump to XL and do everything there? I got out of the series before all this expansion stuff started so I don't know how it works exactly. Is the original DW7 content included with XL, or is it just the extra weapons and people, etc? Second dumb question, what's the preferred English translation of the "Three Kingdoms" novel? I had the two volumes of this version, but all the names were slightly different from the DW translations so it threw me off. Guan Yu is called Kuan Yu, for example. It's not huge, but having to remember hundreds of slight variations of names was a bit much. If it's the best available version I guess I can deal with it, but I'd like to be lazy and just have the names be the same.
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Static Rook posted:I'm getting back into the DW series and I have a couple dumb questions. The last DW game I played was 3, so it's been awhile. Should I play through all of vanilla 7 before starting XL? Or should I just pop in 7 to get a save file, then jump to XL and do everything there? I got out of the series before all this expansion stuff started so I don't know how it works exactly. Is the original DW7 content included with XL, or is it just the extra weapons and people, etc? DW7:XL is an expansion in the truest sense. It adds content but does not itself contain the vanilla content. That said there are some benefits if you pick up both at the same time (getting to see the new characters in story mode, being able to use them in conquest, free mode, higher difficulties) but generally the best route would be to get 7 and if you get to the end and still really like it get XL. Remember that XL is exclusive to PS3. As for Three Kingdoms the best non-digital form is the Moss-Roberts version. This is the copy I read and it's pretty good with lots of footnotes if you're into that stuff. There is a free version of the text online that is available here: http://threekingdoms.com/ It's suppose to be a combination of the prose from the version you read with the updated names. The worst part is the comments to the right of all the text but if you can ignore them then this is a fine alternative.
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So, who's this guy? I think I like the look of him. And he's a spear user, so that's a plus.
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PureRok posted:So, who's this guy? I think I like the look of him. And he's a spear user, so that's a plus. Japanese users are always complaining about DW's sky high pretty boy ratio, even compared to other Japanese games.
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PureRok posted:So, who's this guy? I think I like the look of him. And he's a spear user, so that's a plus. That's Wen Yang. He's a late Wei/Jin general who was involved in most of the rebellions that took place during the end of Wei. He was compared to Zhao Yun in terms of military prowess. I think Koei went a little far in this comparison by making him even look a lot like Zhao Yun and giving him a spear. I don't think he's any more a pretty boy than any other character but the Japanese fans have to know that a large portion of the user base are fangirls right?
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Belzac posted:That's Wen Yang. He's a late Wei/Jin general who was involved in most of the rebellions that took place during the end of Wei. He was compared to Zhao Yun in terms of military prowess. I think Koei went a little far in this comparison by making him even look a lot like Zhao Yun and giving him a spear. I don't think he's any more a pretty boy than any other character but the Japanese fans have to know that a large portion of the user base are fangirls right?
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To be fair, pretty sure Han Dang makes up for most of the pretty boys:
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The GIG posted:To be fair, pretty sure Han Dang makes up for most of the pretty boys: dong zhuo.jpg
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Belzac posted:
Thanks! Yeah, I'll probably just get 7 for now then pick up XL later. Reading the OP, it looks like they don't bother with English voices anymore, that's a bummer. Playing splitscreen and laughing at the terrible voicework was part of the charm, but eh, I can see why they'd cut it. I also ordered that 4 volume set of the novel, hooray for Amazon giftcards! Too bad none of the sellers were Prime eligible, I've gotten spoiled by free shipping.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Yeah, there is that, but like I said it's endemic across Japanese games, even ones that don't have very many female fans. It leads people to speculate that lots of Japanese devs just plain don't know how to make any other kind of character. See: Squenix forcing Vaan into FFXII as a replacement main character to Balthier, pissing off Yasumi Matsuno to the point he left and wrote Madworld for Platinum Games. I'm not hating 6 so far, but holy poo poo does trying to power through every Musou mode get annoying. Are there any Musou mode characters I need to do something special to unlock besides just playing through the rest? Also, Kessen II is surprisingly not completely terrible gameplaywise, at least from a conceptual level. The AI is pants on head stupid though, and the levels are all really simple so far.
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Static Rook posted:Thanks! Yeah, I'll probably just get 7 for now then pick up XL later. Reading the OP, it looks like they don't bother with English voices anymore, that's a bummer. Playing splitscreen and laughing at the terrible voicework was part of the charm, but eh, I can see why they'd cut it.
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Urdnot Fire posted:Don't worry, 7 still has the awesome English dub, it's only Warriors Orochi 3 that doesn't. XL also has English VO. These might be the end for it though SW:C, WO3, 7 Empires, Pirate Warriors, and Ken's Rage 2 all won't/don't have English VO. The only hope we have for getting the cast back is 8 but I don't think that's much of a chance. Also one of the advantages of XL Static Rook is that you can play the whole thing split screen again. They removed it from the original release for some reason.
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The thing is that 7's English voice acting was at that point where they were still getting bits wrong (most noticeably zhong) but had gotten down the basics pretty damned well... it wasn't completely on yet not so off as to be hilarious.The GIG posted:To be fair, pretty sure Han Dang makes up for most of the pretty boys: Samurai Sanders posted:Yeah, there is that, but like I said it's endemic across Japanese games, even ones that don't have very many female fans. It leads people to speculate that lots of Japanese devs just plain don't know how to make any other kind of character.
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Policenaut posted:Earlier last year for the anniversary Koei said they were making a Samurai Warriors 4. From last page, but they also said that it should be coming out March of next year. What bums me out is the lack of news for another Dynasty Warriors Gundam. I'm wondering if DWG3 flopped too hard and they just aren't going to do any more.
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Belzac posted:XL also has English VO. These might be the end for it though SW:C, WO3, 7 Empires, Pirate Warriors, and Ken's Rage 2 all won't/don't have English VO. The only hope we have for getting the cast back is 8 but I don't think that's much of a chance.  I missed English Lu Bu.
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Chortles posted:I can perfectly believe this about both Japanese and American/Canadian/European devs alike. But you're right, the range of characters that are permitted to be a major character in a game is usually very narrow no matter where you are. edit: on the other hand though, DW has so many characters that they can have at least one for pretty much every taste.
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Jibo posted:From last page, but they also said that it should be coming out March of next year. Was it a flop? I never heard that.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:See: Squenix forcing Vaan into FFXII as a replacement main character to Balthier, pissing off Yasumi Matsuno to the point he left and wrote Madworld for Platinum Games. Hey, wait, wasn't Basch supposed to be the main character in 12? He's Luke after all, and FF12 is literally Star Wars. Balthier's like Han Solo, because he's a dashing rogue with an airship and hangs out with a furry.
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To be honest, I kind of hope they add a few more women this time, like they did in DW7.Samurai Sanders posted:Another Dynasty Warriors pretty boy, that's for sure. Samurai Sanders posted:Yeah, but Western game protagonists usually look a little bit...rougher. Like, someone who has actually seen combat.
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Nier was a blatant case of "Japanese devs and what they believe Americans want to play as"... to the point that, quoting Sankaku Complex (COMPLETELY NSFW): "Square Enix actually made two games rather than have to risk releasing an insufficiently masculine lead to supposedly testosterone loving American audiences."...quote:Yoko: At first we were just doing the youthful protagonist version (which became “Replicant”), but Square Enix started taking talking about international markets during development. quote:The importance of “believability” is strongly emphasised in the North American market. I don't forget that Americans had also weird-rear end views of 1980s Japan when trying to "catch up to Japan", but the boldfaced part still strikes me as 
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TTBF posted:Was it a flop? I never heard that. I have no idea how well it sold but the reviews were pretty bad. Even for a musou game.
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U.T. Raptor posted:To be honest, I kind of hope they add a few more women this time, like they did in DW7. We've seen pretty much the whole cast at this point and the only new female characters are Zhang Chunhua (Sima Yi's wife) for Jin and Guan Yinping (Guan Yu's daughter) for Shu. I'd assume XL you can probably count on one of Lu Lingqi (Lu Bu's daughter) or Ma Yunlu (Ma Chao's sister/Zhao Yun's wife). If they ever actually do the fall of Wu there's at least one no brainer add in Sun Luban, one of Sun Quan's daughters who was basically a conniving mega-bitch and was heavily involved in a lot of the political stuff that wound up screwing Wu up big time after Sun Quan's death. You could probably also throw her sister, Sun Luyu, in there to act as a counterpoint too. And it's kind of funny that for all the pretty boys Jin has it's actually Wang Yuanji that's the most popular character from that faction and, I think, the entire series. Of course given that she's pure, 100% otakubait that's not really surprising. Suben fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Jan 27, 2013 |
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Static Rook posted:I'm getting back into the DW series and I have a couple dumb questions. The last DW game I played was 3, so it's been awhile. Should I play through all of vanilla 7 before starting XL? Or should I just pop in 7 to get a save file, then jump to XL and do everything there? I got out of the series before all this expansion stuff started so I don't know how it works exactly. Is the original DW7 content included with XL, or is it just the extra weapons and people, etc? I don't think anyone else mentioned this so I figured it was worth noting: If you're the type who cares about trophies, know that you can't obtain DW7's trophies while playing XL with an imported save. You can still go back and play your DW7 save by plopping the vanilla DW7 disc in and playing it as normal, but it will be at exactly the state (w/r/t story progression, character progression, unlocks, conquest mode etc.) it was before you imported it into XL. Therefore, as far as trophies are concerned, make sure you get any (or all) trophies you care about in DW7 before you jump into XL.
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Suben posted:We've seen pretty much the whole cast at this point and the only new female characters are Zhang Chunhua (Sima Yi's wife) for Jin and Guan Yinping (Guan Yu's daughter) for Shu. I'd assume XL you can probably count on one of Lu Lingqi (Lu Bu's daughter) or Ma Yunlu (Ma Chao's sister/Zhao Yun's wife). If they ever actually do the fall of Wu there's at least one no brainer add in Sun Luban, one of Sun Quan's daughters who was basically a conniving mega-bitch and was heavily involved in a lot of the political stuff that wound up screwing Wu up big time after Sun Quan's death. You could probably also throw her sister, Sun Luyu, in there to act as a counterpoint too.
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U.T. Raptor posted:Didn't Meng Huo and Zhurong have a daughter, too? Yes and she married Guan Suo. I wonder if she'll ever show up and have a fued with Bao Shanning.
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Belzac posted:Yes and she married Guan Suo. I wonder if she'll ever show up and have a fued with Bao Shanning. It seems really inevitable now that they're out of Guan children as far as bullshit Shu adds over more deserving people (i.e. Liao Hua and Fa Zheng) go. Watch them throw her in 8XL or something.
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