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Generally a jailbreak will just go right on top of your already updated phone, so all your contacts/apps/settings will still be there. If you're scared about there being a problem during the jailbreak and having to restore to fix it, then just backup your stuff normally before attempting to jailbreak.
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Wario In Real Life posted:Hoops? You mean pay a simple $100 yearly fee?
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I'm def. going to back up everything manually first; I had Issues the first time I did a jailbreak on top of a used-for-a-week iPad and ended up having to restore before it would take, and I assumed that basically any "unclean" (i.e., used for any amount of time) iOS install would fail to jailbreak properly.
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Jan 28, 2013 21:17
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This is a terribly off-base assumption. (but it can happen, yes.)
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I'm really happy cydia has saved all my shsh's for my 4. I mean I could theoretically restore all the way back to what, iOS 4 if I wanted to. That being said has the list of iOS 6 compatible jailbreaks been updated? I have a few core things but pretty much nobody really fixed functionality. I mean my favorite jailbreak app is BiteSMS and it shits itself and crashes Springboard even with the update but I'd like to get back to gridlock and springtomize.
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Jan 28, 2013 21:47
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Feenix posted:This is a terribly off-base assumption. I'm 1 for 1, so my anecdotal experience may be an outlier. I'm just...more wary than I would be otherwise, due to it. (Maybe statistics will be on my side and I'll never have another problem with it again  )
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Jan 28, 2013 22:00
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Physical posted:I want the jailbreak so I can develop iOS apps, as a hobbyist, to avoid a bunch of stupid Apple hoops. Having done both (jb tweaks and App Store), there are ups and downs to both sides. If you want a simple app for whatever you're doing, I really recommend Xcode. They've come a long way and made it really easy and $100 a year is nothing.
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Jan 28, 2013 22:05
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Richman777 posted:Having done both (jb tweaks and App Store), there are ups and downs to both sides. If you want a simple app for whatever you're doing, I really recommend Xcode. They've come a long way and made it really easy and $100 a year is nothing.
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Jan 28, 2013 22:10
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So the consensus is it's safe to upgrade my iPhone 5 to 6.1 without losing my jailbreak? I guess to be safe it's probably best to use tinyumbrella and save the hash
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Jan 29, 2013 00:14
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Physical posted:It's the hurdle of having to buy a Mac.
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randyest posted:I was able to run Xcode in a virtual osx machine in win7.
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Feenix posted:I've had iPhone 5 since day 1 and have been pretty drat ok without all my beloved jailbreak features. Same here, I haven't really missed anything on my old JB iPhone 4. But the one thing I'm hoping they release soon for iPhone 5 is a hack to make Google Maps default again.
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Feenix posted:I've had iPhone 5 since day 1 and have been pretty drat ok without all my beloved jailbreak features. Also BiteSMS makes any jailbreak worth it.
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randyest posted:I was able to run Xcode in a virtual osx machine in win7.
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MickRaider posted:So the consensus is it's safe to upgrade my iPhone 5 to 6.1 without losing my jailbreak? Yes, the same vulnerability used for 6.0.2 is present in 6.1, says planetbeing Also be sure to do a full restore via iTunes (rather than a delta update)
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Jan 29, 2013 01:17
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Milo Pollywalter posted:Yes, the same vulnerability used for 6.0.2 is present in 6.1, says planetbeing What's the reasoning behind this? (I assume a delta update is done from the iPhone via wi-fi, right?)
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There's no reasoning behind it. It's perfectly acceptable to do OTA updates. That's the reason they have freaking OTA updates.
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Well, I think I done messed up. I listed my 4S on ebay for sale, with one of the features advertised being a clean jailbreak of 5.1.1, I thought this would make it more desirable. So I've been trying to do a clean restore (re-restore?) of 5.1.1. I went the iTunes Shift+restore route to a 5.1.1 IPSW, but it didn't work. Then I tried the latest redsn0w using SHSH blobs from Cydia, since I assumed my 4S would have 5, 5.0.1, and 5.1.1 blobs. I never got to confirm this. Now my phone is stuck in some kind of loop, I don't know if it's a recovery loop or what. It goes from the apple logo, to the spinning thing, black screen, and then back to the apple logo. Redsn0w wants me to connect it in Recovery mode to continue. I tried putting it in DFU mode and then pushing it out of the restore loop using redsn0w but it says that the feature isn't available with the iPhone 4S. What are my options at this point? I'd like to keep it on 5.1.1 if possible, jailbroken, only because I've advertised it that way. The auction doesn't end for another 9 days so it's not a big deal to just update the listing and update to 6.1.
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Jose Valasquez posted:I'm trying to slowly ween myself off of jailbreak features so I don't have to wait 6 months after each release to upgrade Does it really matter? Each IOS update is so minor as to be almost pointless to bother installing it. It's really the accumulation that may feel bad, but jailbreaks aren't usually *that* far behind.
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Physical posted:Yea me too. How about deploying, did you find a way to do that? From the OSX virtual machine?
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randyest posted:I never tried; got too busy with real work to bother. Is it problematic? (Just wondering in case I get more time to get back into it.) So the only alternative to deploying was using a jail-broken iOS device.
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Wario In Real Life posted:There's no reasoning behind it. It's perfectly acceptable to do OTA updates. That's the reason they have freaking OTA updates. I was reading on idownloadblog, and they said the same thing too about not using the ota update as well.
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Ursine Asylum posted:So now that I have something that I care about both having jailbroken and not losing all the data on it, are there any special steps I should take with a jailbroken iPhone 4 to get it on 6.1, jailbroken, without losing all of my contacts and crap? Is it enough to just do a backup through iTunes, factory reset, and then restore from backup before jailbreaking again? I sync everything BUT contacts with Itunes and just let Icloud handle my contacts.
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trilljester posted:What's the reasoning behind this? (I assume a delta update is done from the iPhone via wi-fi, right?) Wario In Real Life posted:There's no reasoning behind it. It's perfectly acceptable to do OTA updates. That's the reason they have freaking OTA updates. I was going off of this from pimskeks. I'm no computer scientist but I think the idea being that a regular 6.1 firmware could be somehow different from 6.02+delta 6.1 (in terms of the locations of where specific code is stored). To most users this wouldn't matter, but if you're jailbreaking might as well be better safe than sorry.
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Wario In Real Life posted:There's no reasoning behind it. It's perfectly acceptable to do OTA updates. That's the reason they have freaking OTA updates. I noted a few pages ago that I found out the hard way that whomever I bought my iPad from must have installed iOS 5.1.1 via OTA, which means that even though my device is jailbroken I cannot do a re-install of the 5.1.1 firmware again without getting this error: "Couldn't Restore: It seems the APTicket flashed on the device cannot be re-used for this hack. If the current firmware was installed via an OTA update or at the factory, its APTicket contains the wrong data for this to work." That's despite the fact that I have my blobs and what have you. For now, I'm pretty sure I'm stuck. I am really hoping that once the 6.1 jailbreak hits, I can just Shift-Restore the 6.1 firmware through iTunes like normal and jailbreak that since unlike 5.1.1, Apple still signs 6.1. But I won't know until it's out. Point being, I can say with certainty that whatever isn't included as part of updating via over-the-air is critical to installing/re-installing the jailbreak. Perhaps that didn't used to be true given that my device is jailbroken. But it sure is true now.
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Alright so I'm somewhat confused, is it even worth risking updating to 6.1 right now? I only ask because I just checked TinyUmbrella and my blobs are only saved for 6.0.1 & (for some reason) 6.1 (I'm on 6.0.2). I don't want to miss out on this JB but I don't want to screw myself by updating to 6.1. Granted it's not a big deal to stay where I'm at but I was just looking to double check. Thanks everyone.
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Daryl Surat posted:Point being, I can say with certainty that whatever isn't included as part of updating via over-the-air is critical to installing/re-installing the jailbreak. Perhaps that didn't used to be true given that my device is jailbroken. But it sure is true now. Funny you mentioned that, as some people were chiding me in another thread for wanting to do a full restore for 6.1 on my mini (which I did just now, everything came out just fine dudes) instead of an OTA. Milo Pollywalter posted:I was going off of this from pimskeks. I'm no computer scientist but I think the idea being that a regular 6.1 firmware could be somehow different from 6.02+delta 6.1 (in terms of the locations of where specific code is stored). To most users this wouldn't matter, but if you're jailbreaking might as well be better safe than sorry. See the quote from Daryl Surat! Although I wanted to do the restore more from a 'gives me an excuse to backup, wipe and start over' point I'm glad to see the JB Lords approving of this as a step towards jailbreaking. These jailbreak guys know their poo poo, they have to in order to get past Apple's anti jailbreak tactics; I'm sure they researched trying to jailbreak OTAs but they might have concluded it's too risky due to what you mentioned. Wario In Real Life posted:There's no reasoning behind it. It's perfectly acceptable to do OTA updates. That's the reason they have freaking OTA updates. Yep, perfectly acceptable to do OTA if you don't want to jailbreak. If one of the JB team is telling people to upgrade to 6.1 via iTunes and not OTA, to jailbreak, then that's what I'm loving doing. And I repeat: pimskeks posted:
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If you people plan to upgrade to iOS 6.1 please don’t do an OTA upgrade.
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Na'at posted:Honestly the things I miss most are folder enhancer, infinidock and gridlock.
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~Coxy posted:Does it really matter? Each IOS update is so minor as to be almost pointless to bother installing it. I meant upgrading phones more than iOS versions. Although I do have a few apps that have been sitting in the app update list for months now that say they require iOS 6 which is annoying.
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I really hope the 6.1 jailbreak works. I've wanted to upgrade, but didn't want to lose Inifidock, Folder Enhancer, and having Chrome as my default browser. Plus, I use a Wii-mote to play an SNES emulator on my iPad, which is pretty awesome - but doesn't work without jb.
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Wario In Real Life posted:Too many hurdles man. I wanna run I don't wanna jump. Wario In Real Life posted:There's no reasoning behind it. It's perfectly acceptable to do OTA updates. That's the reason they have freaking OTA updates. Sorry dude but you obviously don't know what you're talking about. OTA updates are completely different than regular full restore with an image and even assign different SHSH blobs. Have you ever actively done ANY jb tweak development? I went down the Linux route and it's a huge pain in the rear end. The toolchain setup in Linux is not straightforward at all unless you're a pretty advanced user. Most of the guides are outdated and even suarik's toolchain guide is wrong since it doesn't even use gcc anymore. If you hit a snag following any of the guides, good luck figuring out why something won't compile with some random linker error. You can't create an on-device toolchain anymore either. Making apps isn't a simple 1,2,3 process unless a) you're awesome with Linux and understand everything about compiler architectures and arguments or b) you're on a mac. The absolute easiest method to me was turning my PC into a hackintosh. If you have anything even remotely new (last year or so) you shouldn't have a problem with intel-based systems. If you have OSX installed, the toolchain is already built and a lot of stuff "just works". And I doubt you want to go into it without the help of something like Theos as a helper library. Something like this is probably involved for the most recent SDKs: http://code.google.com/p/ios-toolchain-based-on-clang-for-linux/wiki/HowTo_en No hurdles? Right... Richman777 fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Jan 29, 2013 |
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Richman777 posted:Sorry dude but you obviously don't know what you're talking about. OTA updates are completely different than regular full restore with an image and even assign different SHSH blobs. Physical posted:Well I stopped short of submitting for my App Developer membership because I wasn't sure if they would be able to tell if it was a VM Mac or not. I didn't want to get blacklisted or something, I do want to go legit when I actually make something worth sharing with others.
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Physical posted:You seem like you know what I was going through. Can you comment on my earlier post? Nope - they don't know that. From their perspective it was a mac that compiled it and a lot of people have successfully submitted to the app store via VM or hackintosh. The bundles that get built and submitted don't really carry all too specific information from what I gather and the approval process is a joke. They aren't looking long and hard into the source of the code, mainly what it does. The great the about XCode 4 and up is that it does a really nice job of checking your binaries for you when you submit. I'd be willing to bet money that that is basically the only thing that matters as far as bin signatures. As long as you compile with an app store provisioning profile that was correctly setup for your cert and setup on your toolchain, I'm pretty sure they don't care. When I first made my Hackintosh I did some really basic searching and there wasn't anything I found of people not getting approved.
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Wario In Real Life posted:There's no reasoning behind it. It's perfectly acceptable to do OTA updates. That's the reason they have freaking OTA updates. You are an idiot. Don't give people advise if you have no clue what the gently caress you're talking about. OTA updates are handled differently server side an have different unique signature than a normal iTunes update. This means that if you gently caress up or want to downgrade in the future you can't, even if you have blobs saved.
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Well, even if you did an OTA update (not me), can't you just do a full restore of 6.1 over it and be jailbreak ready? Or does one OTA update ruin your device forever? Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Jan 29, 2013 |
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Hamburlgar posted:You are an idiot. Don't give people advise if you have no clue what the gently caress you're talking about.
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I have an old 3GS stuck on 5.1 (can't upgrade to 5.1.1. due to not having the SHSH saved). I jailbroke it today with the latest redsn0w, and for whateve reason I'm stuck on a tethered jailbreak. I thought about running Rocky Racoon but it requires 5.1.1. From what https://www.jailbreakmatrix.com says, redsn0w should have an untethered JB for my firmware. Any ideas why it's keeping me tethered?
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Binary Badger posted:Well, even if you did an OTA update (not me), can't you just do a full restore of 6.1 over it and be jailbreak ready? Or does one OTA update ruin your device forever? I'm guessing if you did an OTA update, then did a shift restore with a full IPW of 6.1, you'd get a clean firmware update. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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