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Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

OBAMA BIN LinkedIn posted:

the defense is that tabs look out of whack when you mix them with hard spaces


no that's just another reason not to have spaces.

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Dr. Honked
Jan 9, 2011

eat it you slaaaaaaag

Shaggar posted:

like there is literally no defense for spaces instead of tabs.

i agree but i couldn't put forward a rational case. i just loving hate spaces where tabs should be

X-BUM-RAIDER-X
May 7, 2008
i use spaces purely to piss off shaggar programmers

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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well i think not mixing them is the thing everyone agrees on (except offshore devs)

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Dr. Honked posted:

i agree but i couldn't put forward a rational case. i just loving hate spaces where tabs should be

well its ez. you can resize ur tabstop in your ide to make hard tabs always fit the width you want, so when u bring in someone elses code if they use different tabstop it doesn't matter and every1 is happy.

with spaces you have to tell the IDE to reformat it with hard tabs which is like 2 seconds of extra work.

spaces instead of tabs is a sign your co-workers are probably doing other things wrong as well.

X-BUM-RAIDER-X
May 7, 2008
my... my whitespace :qq:

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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Gazpacho posted:

i never saw any code that indented w tabs at MS
reason being obviously that almost everyone at MS uses Visual Studio which autoformats to one true style, dunno how you even think of associating "C# style" with tabs

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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the other case against tabs is that, you might have noticed, there are programs that display code which are not editors (e.g. diff viewers) and cannot be customized in how they display tabs

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
which doesn't matter cause the default tabsize is correct. and if ur looking at code in a text editor kill you're self.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Shaggar posted:

python formatting conventions are consistently bad

but they're consistent and forced which makes them ok to deal with

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
lol no

tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->
kill me

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
tef did someone change ur av?

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

ok to deal with does not mean 'prefer to use'

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Shaggar posted:

which doesn't matter cause the default tabsize is correct.

You are more evil and wrong than ever.

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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oh ok i didn't realize that coding with a cardpunch was still a thing somewhere

Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

Shaggar posted:

tef did someone change ur av?

that's his normal av...

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Otto Skorzeny posted:

that's his normal av...

It doesn't move anymore.

tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->

Shaggar posted:

tef did someone change ur av?

I guess they must have got tired of IE crashing :(

Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

prefect posted:

It doesn't move anymore.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

tef posted:

I guess they must have got tired of IE crashing :(

they probably could have just fixed the error in the gif but w/e.

Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

tef posted:

I guess they must have got tired of IE crashing :(

shaggar did it imo. he had the motive and he was the first to mention it

Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

Shaggar posted:

they probably could have just fixed the error in the gif but w/e.

it wasn't a gif

tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->


rip my av

tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->

Shaggar posted:

they probably could have just fixed the error in the gif but w/e.

the gif was fine. ie choked on having so many frames with partial updates

Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip
post the (original?) apng too, imo

Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip
or was it scaev's av that was an apng

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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prefect posted:

It doesn't move anymore.
i had to watch it for a while to make sure it wasn't chrome "performance"

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Otto Skorzeny posted:

it wasn't a gif

ya it was. its also malformed. IE9+ gif render doesn't like it, but it works fine in <=IE8

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Otto Skorzeny posted:

shaggar did it imo. he had the motive and he was the first to mention it

He who smelt it dealt it.

tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->

Shaggar posted:

ya it was. its also malformed. IE9+ gif render doesn't like it, but it works fine in <=IE8

ugh, stupid academics breaking working software, again

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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tef posted:

ugh, stupid academics breaking working software, again
well when the academics have the european commission's ear what can you do

Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

Shaggar posted:

ya it was. its also malformed. IE9+ gif render doesn't like it, but it works fine in <=IE8

i should use this excuse too

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

Shaggar posted:

python formatting conventions are consistently bad

truth

hobbesmaster posted:

but they're consistent and forced which makes them ok to deal with

consistency doesn't matter if it's wrong. better to get it right some of the time than always get it wrong.

indentation is done with tabs, and tabs are eight characters wide

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

PC LOAD LETTER

What da fuck does that mean

Fun Shoe

Tiny Bug Child posted:

consistency doesn't matter if it's wrong. better to get it right some of the time than always get it wrong.

the php mantra

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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are there any programming languages that allow space in variable names

tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->

Otto Skorzeny posted:

or was it scaev's av that was an apng

yes

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

idk what you guys are on about it looks animated to me

tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->
mystery solved

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Quebec Bagnet
Apr 28, 2009

mess with the honk
you get the bonk
Lipstick Apathy

Tiny Bug Child posted:

indentation is done with tabs, and tabs are four characters wide

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