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Mike-o posted:A couple fisters that were in my company were doing live fire training, calling in fire with their FSV Stryker near one of our lovely little FOBs in Afghanistan. I'm a dumb loving grunt so I can't remember all the terms and names, but the guy back in the tent who is supposed to take those calls and send them to the gun bunnies was a complete loving idiot. To put it in a few words, he screwed up the readback so bad that they were danger loving close about 50 meters from our fisters. Cue giant pieces of shrapnel flying towards the FSV, with one bowie knife sized shard of metal zipping past and slicing open my buddy's hand as he's standing in the turrent. I don't even think they punished the guy, and he stayed in that position until the end of the deployment. You're talking about the Fire Direction Center folks. 13D's. Don't remember what the actual name of that MOS is. I've been reminiscing too much about the Army today. I had a buddy who used to like to pee on our shoes at urinals and toilets at bars when we got wasted. He always thought it was the funniest thing ever when he sprayed his piss all over peoples kicks. One night we got incredibly wasted and he thought he was peeing all over my shoes (he was trying to get me back for burning him with a cigarette earlier in the evening) but it turned out to be one of the bouncers. The guy knocked his rear end the gently caress out, but he let us all stay. My buddy never went back to that bar, but that bouncer instantly became one of my all-time favorite bouncers.
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Cobbsprite posted:Couple of my platoon guys might have known him, then. They transferred out of 1-72 to the 1BCT 1Cav PSD in '06 and probably knew him. Entirely possible. Short, mid-40s E6 from A CO 2nd EN. Can't for the goddamn death of me (har har) remember his name though. Had a collection on his wall of literally every playboy magazine ever made until that point. Had a greyed out pedo stash, originally from Montana.
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Vasudus posted:When I was doing a range in Korea one of the squad leaders, a 22 years in E6 whose been on BN+ staff for the last 15, nearly killed my entire squad. We were doing a platoon level demo mission, really simple stuff. Few crater charges, few blocks of C4, really simple stuff. As a fellow combat engineer all I can say to this s gently caress that guy. Don't they make you signal your intent to fire on those ranges? You know, the whole screaming FIRE IN THE HOLE in all four cardinal directions? For those who've never seen it done, one cratering charge will make a hole that's around 15 feet deep and 30 feet wide. A crater group is anywhere from 5 - 10 cratering charges.
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# ? Jan 30, 2013 05:02 |
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Samu posted:As a fellow combat engineer all I can say to this s gently caress that guy. Don't they make you signal your intent to fire on those ranges? You know, the whole screaming FIRE IN THE HOLE in all four cardinal directions? I am the third from the left, middle row, next to the dude with the scum stache. That huge fuckoff crater was not there when the morning started.
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# ? Jan 30, 2013 05:04 |
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Do you guys use manufactured charges to do cratering? We use 27kg of tri-grain 8 feet down initiated with a quarter block of C4 and it makes a much bigger hole than that. My trades course has almost the exact same picture, just taken by a guy standing on the edge of the hole looking down haha. I'll dig up the picture if I still have it.
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# ? Jan 30, 2013 05:11 |
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Samu posted:Do you guys use manufactured charges to do cratering? We use 27kg of tri-grain 8 feet down initiated with a quarter block of C4 and it makes a much bigger hole than that. Yeah, at least under normal circumstances we used 40lb charges, composition H6 explosives. Usually a quarter or a half block to set it off, with a ring of cord for the det system. All doubled up and redundant, of course. The crater is rather ho-hum sized because we're not allowed to bury the charges more than a few feet in the ground - the resulting explosion is more flashy, but the amount of earth moved is rather low. I hated the ranges in Korea for stuff like that.
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# ? Jan 30, 2013 05:19 |
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Blackchamber posted:Apparently in the Navy thread people are proud to be NFOs so I figured I'd share my love of them too. TACRON?
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# ? Jan 30, 2013 06:44 |
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Being a reservist I am surprised by the number of people who allow themselves to be labeled with the Special Forces, Navy SEAL, etc. moniker by civilians who don't know better. Many just nod and go along with the civilian's bullshit, but one guy in my office was a bit more active. He was (is) a Navy O5 SWO and wore his service on his sleeve because his office (in his civilian job) was filled with Navy Swag and certificates, photos with admirals, and other poo poo like that. He, in his infinite wisdom, would hand out orange TS stickers to the guys in the bullpen who would stick them on their cell phones, laptops, and ipads. The guy knew that I was also a Navy Zero and would try to regularly chat me up but I didn't like him so tried my best to stay away. At the time I was in small boats and he was doing some Pentagon gig and would always try to recruit me to come to his unit. One time, I was walking by his office and noticed a SEAL pin on the guy's desk. We had this little conversation: Me: "What the gently caress is that?" CDR Jerkoff: "A SEAL pin." Me: "I can see that, why the gently caress is it on your desk." CDR Jerkoff: "Well....it's coool." Me: "If you were a SEAL, perhaps, but you're a SWO. For you, it's decidedly uncool. Get the gently caress rid of it." Douchebag.
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# ? Jan 31, 2013 20:37 |
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If he's not claiming to be a SEAL then why do you care?
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# ? Jan 31, 2013 21:55 |
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The second week of my command, I was bullshitting with the 3rd PLT PSG in his office and noticed a photo on their corkboard. It's of a PVT in ACUs in front of a baggage carousel with his wife. He's got a Ranger tab over his 10th MTN patch, a CIB, airborne, and air assault badges. I started laughing at it until the PSG said: "Sir, that guy's here." Me: "Haha, like here at Drum?" PSG: "No, like here in this platoon." I stopped laughing and told him to send the kid to my office. He was standing there at parade rest in front of my desk, literally shaking. I told him how loving stupid it was to put all that poo poo on his uniform and what a terrible first impression that is to his new commander. He said he understood and didn't know why he thought that was a good idea and so on. He's actually been a pretty decent soldier since then. But seriously, why the gently caress do some kids do poo poo like that?
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# ? Jan 31, 2013 22:09 |
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Because they are kids.
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# ? Jan 31, 2013 22:11 |
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Deathy McDeath posted:If he's not claiming to be a SEAL then why do you care? Because leaving the pin on his desk at work is tantamount to saying, "I'm a SEAL" because his non-vet coworkers just don't know better. In business lots of civilians believe the poo poo they see in the movies and assume every vet was in some elite unit. So the MO for these types when asked is not truly affirm that they're SEALs or SF or whatever, but just shrug, give the civilian asker a look. Then civvie goes and tells his co-workers that so-and-so is a SEAL and Mr. Faker gets office rep. Moral_Hazard fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Jan 31, 2013 |
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Deathy McDeath posted:If he's not claiming to be a SEAL then why do you care? Back when VeriSeal's list of imposters was still posted on their website, I found one of my uncles on there.
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# ? Jan 31, 2013 22:43 |
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To a degree it's more frowned upon when you're still in the service more than anything. My boss has memorabilia from Korea -> present, including patches, pins, berets and coins from a variety of SF commands from all branches that were given to him over the years. Nobody ever confused him for being anything that he wasn't, but that's because my office is literally 100% veterans. It's a bigger deal when the dude still puts on the uniform. ninja edit: my boss was a military social worker during Vietnam.
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Ikarus posted:Back when VeriSeal's list of imposters was still posted on their website, I found one of my uncles on there. I met this guy: http://youtu.be/rj2Mqk6LfvU?t=1m53s I knew something was off with him minutes into the conversation, but it went way over the top later when he claimed he had been a green beret AND a navy seal.
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Ron Jeremy posted:I met this guy: Well it has been done at least once, by a guy named Jeff Krause, but that was a long time ago and he wrote a book about it. You Want Me To Do What, by Jeff Krause
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Vasudus posted:To a degree it's more frowned upon when you're still in the service more than anything. My boss has memorabilia from Korea -> present, including patches, pins, berets and coins from a variety of SF commands from all branches that were given to him over the years. Nobody ever confused him for being anything that he wasn't, but that's because my office is literally 100% veterans. There's also a pretty clear difference between a collection like that and this guy mounting a SEAL badge over his desk.
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# ? Feb 1, 2013 00:20 |
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On the subject of old as gently caress junior enlisted, there was this 40something SRA (E-4) in my tech school class, though he'd make sure you knew he was a Buck Sergeant when he got out, which is still an E-4 but you got to call yourself a sergeant after some conditions were met (This was gotten rid of in 1991). Guy was a gigantic rear end in a top hat, completely full of himself, and creepy too. Whenever we switched instructors they'd have us give a brief introduction about ourselves. His always sounded like an online dating profile "Well I'm from Napa California, where I'm a systems administrator. I like good food and good wine and good music. You should also know that I'm married to an Asian woman, yah." He made a point of telling people that he'd be made an E-5 as soon as he got back to his unit, but last time I was snooping though the global he was still listed as an E-4, and in a different job?
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# ? Feb 1, 2013 01:39 |
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Ikarus posted:Well it has been done at least once, by a guy named Jeff Krause, but that was a long time ago and he wrote a book about it. Very funny book. In the same vein is When the Bullet Hits Your Funny Bone by former SEAL Billy Allmon. It's a bunch of funny stories from his time in the teams. Its better than the usual SEAL books about BUD/s and missions and honor and whatever.
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# ? Feb 1, 2013 01:47 |
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I've met a bunch of old lower enlisted/junior NCO dudes who were in during the stone age, got out and then decided to get back in. They were with a few exceptions always creepy fucks or something was off with them somehow.
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Signaleer posted:I've met a bunch of old lower enlisted/junior NCO dudes who were in during the stone age, got out and then decided to get back in. They were with a few exceptions always creepy fucks or something was off with them somehow. We had a guy like that too. I wish I remembered any stories about him, he was a total weirdo. Also, he had no teeth. At all. Probs enjoyed a bit o' the crystal in his time out. Dude was from BFE Missouri.
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Martello posted:He's actually been a pretty decent soldier since then. But seriously, why the gently caress do some kids do poo poo like that? At the risk of sounding like a weirdo I think wearing things you don't earn is bad luck. I always figure the day you go out and buy that poo poo for your self is the day you fail out of whatever you're trying to get. Gotta stay hungry some how, even if its for a little piece of cloth you're just not "allowed to buy." edit: That's some kool-aid drinking esprit de corps poo poo I just posted. Ugh.
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# ? Feb 1, 2013 03:25 |
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I think the reason most prior service guys are weird poo poo bags is because they are too stupid or lazy to manage life as a civilian, so they need uncle Sam to hold their hands.
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iceslice posted:At the risk of sounding like a weirdo I think wearing things you don't earn is bad luck. I always figure the day you go out and buy that poo poo for your self is the day you fail out of whatever you're trying to get. Gotta stay hungry some how, even if its for a little piece of cloth you're just not "allowed to buy." After our OSUT graduation, dude with an 18X contract proceeds to buy anything at ranger joe's that has airborne wings on it. T-shirt, hat, zippo, etc. Even gets airborne wings tattooed on his chest. He then proceeds to fail the PT test at airborne school and never gets his wings.
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HATE CURES TRANNYS posted:I think the reason most prior service guys are weird poo poo bags is because they are too stupid or lazy to manage life as a civilian, so they need uncle Sam to hold their hands. In the lack of an actual personality or sense of character, they'll adopt and exaggerate whatever biographical info they can. Either they were in the Army for 3 years and ARMY VET PROUD for the next 50. Or they're the one guy from a different state and start every story YOU KNOW BACK IN MINNUSOTAHHH.
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GD_American posted:In the lack of an actual personality or sense of character, they'll adopt and exaggerate whatever biographical info they can. Either they were in the Army for 3 years and ARMY VET PROUD for the next 50. Or they're the one guy from a different state and start every story YOU KNOW BACK IN MINNUSOTAHHH. I see a lot of the first type nowadays. Some of my close friends don't even know I was in the Army, in class I say I'm so old because I was saving up for college. But most of the other veteran students are fleece cap wearing, bug-out bag having, name tape sticking, 82nd patch wearing chodes. Everytime the professor says something "WELL BACK IN THE ARMY WE"
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HATE CURES TRANNYS posted:I see a lot of the first type nowadays. Some of my close friends don't even know I was in the Army, in class I say I'm so old because I was saving up for college. But most of the other veteran students are fleece cap wearing, bug-out bag having, name tape sticking, 82nd patch wearing chodes. Everytime the professor says something "WELL BACK IN THE ARMY WE" I've noticed this about a lot of guys I went on my first deployment with. They were all gently caress the Army getting out this sucks, but now every post they every make on facebook is some HOOAH Army bullshit or some quote from some gay infantry facebook page. I can't even imagine how they play that poo poo up in their every day lives. This is why 90% of the people I spend time with are civilians and when they ask about what I do I just say I am collecting unemployment.
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# ? Feb 1, 2013 03:53 |
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The only thing I've posted on fb that's AF-related in weeks was that email from the new Chief, prefaced with several "Fw:" and some cliche read and heed poo poo. If it's not ridiculous, it's not worth posting.
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LEGIT WAR CRIMINAL posted:After our OSUT graduation, dude with an 18X contract proceeds to buy anything at ranger joe's that has airborne wings on it. T-shirt, hat, zippo, etc. Even gets airborne wings tattooed on his chest. He then proceeds to fail the PT test at airborne school and never gets his wings. There was this dude in artillery school we all just called "moto." Had six large USMC tattoos covering what had to have been half of his upper body. Would start and end every conversation with an unironic "ooohrah." Right after artillery school my unit was activated and went to Camp Lejeune for workup. One day, this is maybe six weeks max after artillery school graduated, I see him in sweats, apathetically digging something pointless, in front of a battalion HQ. It is about 1pm. I ask him what is up and all he'll say is he's getting out. edit: quote:I've noticed this about a lot of guys I went on my first deployment with. They were all gently caress the Army getting out this sucks, but now every post they every make on facebook is some HOOAH Army bullshit or some quote from some gay infantry facebook page. I can't even imagine how they play that poo poo up in their every day lives. This is why 90% of the people I spend time with are civilians and when they ask about what I do I just say I am collecting unemployment. This too.
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Best Friends posted:There was this dude in artillery school we all just called "moto." Had six large USMC tattoos covering what had to have been half of his upper body. Would start and end every conversation with an unironic "ooohrah." I know of a guy with a 'Pray for War' license plate that decided he had become a conscientious objector when his unit got activated. He still deployed(not by choice) and spent the entire deployment as the company gunny's bitch.
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Now I feel like a douche. I've got an "Afghanistan Vet" sticker on my truck, hang my infantry blue chord on my mirror, and wear my fleece cap when it's cold outside. I also will discuss crap about the army if someone asks me.
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Mike-o posted:Now I feel like a douche. I've got an "Afghanistan Vet" sticker on my truck, hang my infantry blue chord on my mirror, and wear my fleece cap when it's cold outside. I also will discuss crap about the army if someone asks me. It's actually ok to not feel bad about what you do for a living and talk to other people about it if they're interested. People do it all the time all over the world in such diverse professions as IT guy, lumberjack, or even fluffer. I don't hang my blue cord anywhere but on my ASUs, but if I can't find my Devils beanie I might grab a fleece cap in a pinch to shovel snow or run in the cold off duty or whatever. And I do have a 10th Mountain sticker on my rear window, opposite corner from my 2013 NY State Trooper PBA sticker, and for the same reason. Martello fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Feb 1, 2013 |
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Mike-o posted:Now I feel like a douche. I've got an "Afghanistan Vet" sticker on my truck, hang my infantry blue chord on my mirror, and wear my fleece cap when it's cold outside. I also will discuss crap about the army if someone asks me. Any time I get the weird urge to get anything 'vet' related I suddenly feel ill. This keeps me from ever doing it.
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ded posted:Any time I get the weird urge to get anything 'vet' related I suddenly feel ill. This keeps me from ever doing it. My favorite ultramoto shirt were the custom shirts for the first class association. It was this giant moto skull wearing a sailor hat with a first class crow superimposed on it and giant text that read "FIRST CLASS PETTY OFFICERS ASSOCIATION: RESULTS, NOT EXCUSES". You're super serious hardcore doing those workload reports and barracks inspections, dudes. Hooyah.
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# ? Feb 1, 2013 09:42 |
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gently caress the haters, I love the fleece cap and jacket. It's better than my civilian cold weather poo poo (Cali owns gently caress y'all)
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# ? Feb 1, 2013 09:55 |
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I wear my polypro top on cold days and use my day pack because bookbags are expensive =(
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When I was working at Electronic Arts in the QA department, I had a new tester assigned to me for training. He said he was ex-military, which I initially liked because I've found ex-military guys to be generally less prone to simply not doing whatever the gently caress I told them to do than your average Joe. But this dude was special. He would casually make fart noises whenever he felt like it-- when other people were talking, while he was just sitting around testing, etc. He talked about "In the army" a lot, especially when someone hosed up in any way, about how 'in the Army' they'd get smoked for that gently caress-up, etc. He was also a lardy piece of crap but was really quick to talk about all the various women he'd boned all over the world-- including casually talking about whores and how to get the best value-for-money out of them. He had a bunch of insignia poo poo all over his desk and pictures of fighter planes and tanks and poo poo and he wore camo pants and had about five "ARMY" t-shirts. He tended to respond to any criticism with vague threats of physical violence that he'd immediately back away from if anyone was the least bit confrontational. I generally don't ask vets about their service 'cuz I figure if they want to talk about it they will, but I finally asked this dude what exactly he'd done in the military. He said he'd been in for eight years doing 'support'. He got out as an E-2. After that I started writing him up every time he hosed up, but because EA is goddamn ridiculous he didn't get fired until he got arrested for having a loaded weapon in his car. After that when I got ex-military types I asked to see their separation papers.
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# ? Feb 1, 2013 13:57 |
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I'm sitting in class wearing a fleece cap RIGHT NOW because I sit under the AC vent. I promise the only military thing on my car is my old parking sticker!
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MoraleHazard posted:He, in his infinite wisdom, would hand out orange TS stickers to the guys in the bullpen who would stick them on their cell phones, laptops, and ipads. Tell him he's an idiot, because that's against DoD policy, namely DODINST 5200.01. He probably doesn't even have a TS, but poo poo like that (misclassification or otherwise mislabeling material) is a no-no.
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I've thought about getting vet plates on my car in the hopes that it'd cut down on other drivers' road rage when I cut them off. Also it cuts your property taxes here. Been too lazy to so far. I have a lot of surplus/surplus-y looking fleece stuff because gently caress it is colder than gently caress in CT and that stuff is cheap and warm and doesn't disintegrate if you wear it while actually working outside. So it's green and brown, I wasn't Army, don't care. I wrote about it in another thread but I wore a red and gold ballcap to a Veteran's Day parade (it was my submarine's drill team hat and one of the few things I have left that say 'Navy' in any way) and I had all these old-rear end vet Marines running up to me and wishing me happy birthday and 'rah' and barking and other weird jarhead poo poo and I felt like complete dogshit for being an inadvertent impostor
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