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I realized nobody ever told me which reg that's supposed to be from, so I looked around. It's not in 600-25, which has most of the salute stuff in there, so I'm not sure where it would be. But a google search came up with this: http://www.cdc.gov/od/occp/officership/protocol_ppt.htm My favorite part is "no such thing as a military 'hat'" God we're stupid with that kind of poo poo. "It's not a gun, it's a weapon! It's a cover, not a hat! Or a patrol cap!" gently caress all of that nonsense. Who the gently caress decides that certain words are arbitrarily "unprofessional" anyway? What's the loving difference between "cap" and "hat?" And using "cover" doesn't even make sense, it's the most nonspecific word I can think of. Martello fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Feb 6, 2013 |
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Martello posted:I realized nobody ever told me which reg that's supposed to be from, so I looked around. It's not in 600-25, which has most of the salute stuff in there, so I'm not sure where it would be. But a google search came up with this: http://www.cdc.gov/od/occp/officership/protocol_ppt.htm. I don't know about anyone else, but the "it's not a gun" in the Navy is because in naval tradition "gun" refers to naval artillery.
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Nerdfest X posted:While it probably originated from the ward room, the Chief's mess adopted a "let's use Sea Warrior instead of Shipmate" policy. That's when I started dropping "shipmate" everywhere like I had Tourettes and using it as a bookend to every sentence that came out of my mouth. That came down from the goat locker and senior enlisted types that also brought NWUs. Trust me, I hate that poo poo more than anything. I'm a loving Sailor. Not a drat warrior. I actually got into a bit with a one star's CMC for that. And the "by your leave" when passing a senior officer absolutely does exist, at least in the navy. I'll see if I can dig up exactly where it's codified. I think it might be in the 1710.7a, but I have to check.
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Martello posted:I realized nobody ever told me which reg that's supposed to be from, so I looked around. It's not in 600-25, which has most of the salute stuff in there, so I'm not sure where it would be. But a google search came up with this: http://www.cdc.gov/od/occp/officership/protocol_ppt.htm. It's TRADITION you gently caress head, you're letting down the entire warrior spirit of my beloved CORPS!
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Feb 6, 2013 17:19
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Martello posted:I realized nobody ever told me which reg that's supposed to be from, so I looked around. It's not in 600-25, which has most of the salute stuff in there, so I'm not sure where it would be. But a google search came up with this: http://www.cdc.gov/od/occp/officership/protocol_ppt.htm. Dead link for me, but even so I think it's great that the Centers for Disease Control even has a page like that.
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Mr. Nice! posted:That came down from the goat locker and senior enlisted types that also brought NWUs. Trust me, I hate that poo poo more than anything. I'm a loving Sailor. Not a drat warrior. I actually got into a bit with a one star's CMC for that. When I was reclassing. in Texas IET soldiers flattened against the wall for me.
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Stultus Maximus posted:I don't know about anyone else, but the "it's not a gun" in the Navy is because in naval tradition "gun" refers to naval artillery. Yeah, it's the same with us, but with tank guns, artillery, and machine guns. But it's still loving stupid. In my PLT calling the M4 a gun was like a rule, along with saying bullets instead of rounds or cartridges. IDR posted:It's TRADITION you gently caress head, you're letting down the entire warrior spirit of my beloved CORPS! You're right, I better go smoke myself. Phanatic posted:Dead link for me, but even so I think it's great that the Centers for Disease Control even has a page like that. I hosed up the url, just remove the . at the end if you wanna see it.
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Stultus Maximus posted:I don't know about anyone else, but the "it's not a gun" in the Navy is because in naval tradition "gun" refers to naval artillery. Same for the army, a "gun" is an artillery piece. That's what got yelled into my ear repeatedly at basic training, at least  I've been debating on sharing this one, since it still pisses me off. My company commander when I was a PL was a massive skidmark on the dirty underwear that was our battalion. We had somewhere around 75% west pointers (most of the PLs, 2 company commanders, and the S3), so naturally the baseline stupidity of our unit was magnified at least 10-fold. Things that came out of his mouth: "I don't want to give anyone the illusion my PLs are in charge of anything." When soldiers asked "why do we stay until 9PM every night (including Fridays, where the CG says we are supposed to be gone by 3)? We want to go home and see our families." his response was along the lines of "Block leave is for seeing your families, otherwise we are staying here to continue training." (someone called IG on him for this one and his tone quickly changed) When me and the other PL, and our XO (we were short-staffed enough to only have 2 platoons, neither of which were full) outscored him on a PT test, he made us re-write our PT programs that day with the intent of "I am taking back control of our PT program, and you two will not have anything even resembling Crossfit or MilitaryAthleteWarrior in your new plans." -One of the platoon sergeants put phonebooks in his chair before he came to a training meeting, and he flipped his poo poo and threw them across the room. -Generally, your next job after company command is to go to the brigade staff, somewhere in the 3 shop (this is where all of our post-command captains went, at least); his post-command job was the battalion S4 (a job normally held by a 1LT/brand new captain), given to him "as a way to teach him a lesson about property", so the rumor went. This is in the same battalion whose XO got relieved on the spot for stroking it out to porn he had somehow managed to upload to his SIPR computer. -He tried to give me a statement of charges for something that got lost 6 months after I left that company. -The brigade commander called superstar to his office one day (he may or may not have already been on our fob, I don't quite recall) and was heard yelling at the guy "stop walking into loving ambushes, you are getting entirely too goddamn many soldiers killed"; this was after at least 4 had died (in 3 attacks, if I remember right) in the same way (IEDs) in the same loving spot. These were some of my former soldiers, which is why thinking back about him pisses me off so badly. That's all the ones I can think of right now, though I'm sure more will come back to me later.
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Holy poo poo dude, that makes the horrible commander I've mentioned before (the one Kaliber served under too) sound like Captain America in comparison.Icon Of Sin posted:When soldiers asked "why do we stay until 9PM every night (including Fridays, where the CG says we are supposed to be gone by 3)? We want to go home and see our families." his response was along the lines of "Block leave is for seeing your families, otherwise we are staying here to continue training." (someone called IG on him for this one and his tone quickly changed) This is my favorite, because it pisses me off more than any other stupid thing a commander can do in garrison. For gently caress's sake, let your guys go loving home to their motherfucking families! There's almost never anything important enough to keep dudes past 1700 if you aren't in the field. Holy loving poo poo that kind of bullshit makes me mad. It's always a stupid loving CPT with a huge ego trip who needs to be at the company AT ALL TIMES to feel important, or an rear end in a top hat who doesn't get along with his wife.
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Martello posted:an rear end in a top hat who doesn't get along with his wife. That's why my company commander was such a dick sometimes. I used to get in pretty goddamn early since I had 5:30 ops meetings to take notes for (  ) and when I would walk across from the barracks at like 5:15 the CO's car would be there. With snow on it from the night before. Go inside to the company office and the CQ would be loving around with some excel nonsense and the runner would be organizing our FMs or buffing the floor or something. Peek inside the CO's office and there's a cot and a go bag. When that happens everyone knew it was a 2100 night.
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Feb 6, 2013 19:00
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Martello posted:Holy poo poo dude, that makes the horrible commander I've mentioned before (the one Kaliber served under too) sound like Captain America in comparison. Having a Chief who didn't get along with his wife was the best. I'd send the division home at a sensible time and he'd just say "oh, I'll stay and do this paperwork for a few more hours". My workload decreased substantially.
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I've been trying to put someone in whatever 13 Series MOS there is that sits around and monitors all platoon internal freqs and gives fire missions on random targets whenever someone uses the word repeat in any context edit nm, but this is referencing dumb things about words
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M4 / M9 = gat Patrol cap = hat ACH = helmet IOTV / IBA / plate carrier = body armor Eyepro = glasses Assault pack = backpack LBV = vest And that should keep you sounding like a semi-normal person in 95% of gear related conversations. On the staying late thing, TRADOC don't gently caress around with that. Got nothing to do? gently caress it, 1500 time to go. If first sergeant isn't around and there's nothing to do? gently caress it, 1100 go home. poo poo owns.
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not caring here posted:M4 / M9 = gat We always just put the word "Army" in front of the most simplistic description of the item to explain it away. Army hat, Army gun, Army glasses, or Army backpack. Everyone know exactly what you're talking about even if you don't.
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I work with a guy who's my rank, and has been in about a year longer than me who unironically hooyahs and shipmates. Also carries a bucket of a coffe mug. Loves everything about the Navy, and America, the country that can do no wrong. Subscribes to Pat Robertsons newsletter, and not the Internet one. He has an actual physical copy sent to his barracks. He is 22 or 23. His lifelong dream is to be a chief petty officer, and he is well on his way since he is Most technically and administratively incompetent person I have ever met. He's on the diversity council, despite believing racism is over since Obama is president, and that black people should get over the slavery thing, since white people were once also slaves, thousands of years ago. I told him I was getting out one day, and he called me later, drunk and sobbing, telling me he wishes I would reconsider.
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DEVILDOGOOORAH posted:I've been trying to put someone in whatever 13 Series MOS there is that sits around and monitors all platoon internal freqs and gives fire missions on random targets whenever someone uses the word repeat in any context I work in Comm's for the Army, and even though we were data, people on the PHONE would get uppity about "repeat". Got so bad that in the civilian world, as Casino Security, I would twitch when people said "repeat" on the radio; but then again, those guys sucked about everything on the radio. Signaleer posted:Tell me more about this diversity council. Although, occasionally, Equal Opp. poo poo actually hits the fan, and then you can throw your hands up and pass it off to JAG if it looks "sticky". Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Feb 6, 2013 |
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^its pretty much that yes Once they sponsored a "fun run" on the flight deck There were commerative t shirts involved
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not caring here posted:M4 / M9 = gat In ROTC I have been told off for: - Calling an M4 a "gun" instead of "weapon" - Calling the guidon (however it's spelled) a "flag" - Calling eyepro "shooting glasses" - Calling my patrol cap a "hat" - Calling the LBV "web gear"
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Shipmate, my brightworks are not thirsty!
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Martello posted:Holy poo poo dude, that makes the horrible commander I've mentioned before (the one Kaliber served under too) sound like Captain America in comparison.  SHIPMATE, this ship isn't going to repair itself! And since we spent all day doing training and loving ourselves in the rear end with admin, we obviously can't start putting wrenches on nuts until 1600 at the earliest shipmate!Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go take a rape shower. fakeedit: the key to pissing off chiefs is to begin and end any sentence adressed to them with shipmate. My cob got on a big "SHIPMATE IS A TERM OF HONOR" kick once he realized we all hated it. Spent a week calling him shipmate, and he just hate glared me every time I did it. 
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Mortabis posted:In ROTC I have been told off for: It's a goddamn flag and if some idiot wants to Frenchy* it up then can go right ahead and be a bunch French dickheads but not near me. Also, ROTC is gay. *don't actually know if that's French or not
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not caring here posted:It's a goddamn flag and if some idiot wants to Frenchy* it up then can go right ahead and be a bunch French dickheads but not near me. Also, ROTC is gay. There plenty of things about ROTC that I enjoy but there is a lot of bullshit too. The flag thing came up in a conversation I had with a couple other cadets in which I was insisting that our guidon is not only just a flag, but also not a big deal, and that they were severely lacking in perspective to think that this flag with its APFT, Land Nav, and Best Platoon streamers on it is something to take pride in.
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You may be surprised to learn that the military is not chill about small details and nomenclature but there it is. edit: a lot of it is dumb but I would legit lose my mind (only ever so slightly though because yelling is mean) if a boot called a rifle a "gun." Then again I was artillery so whatever.
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Inventory sheets and property books are really bad about acronyms and nomenclature. Guns are pretty easy, but everything else is terrible until you memorize it. Supply/arms room NCOs are loving wizards when it comes to knowing what and where things are and who they're hand receipted to.
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Mortabis posted:There plenty of things about ROTC that I enjoy but there is a lot of bullshit too. The flag thing came up in a conversation I had with a couple other cadets in which I was insisting that our guidon is not only just a flag, but also not a big deal, and that they were severely lacking in perspective to think that this flag with its APFT, Land Nav, and Best Platoon streamers on it is something to take pride in. So we can totally wear our Ranger Challenge tabs around post right? I need to start drinking again.
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Mortabis posted:There plenty of things about ROTC that I enjoy but there is a lot of bullshit too. The flag thing came up in a conversation I had with a couple other cadets in which I was insisting that our guidon is not only just a flag, but also not a big deal, and that they were severely lacking in perspective to think that this flag with its APFT, Land Nav, and Best Platoon streamers on it is something to take pride in. The amount of BS you put up with in ROTC has to be substantially less than the normal army, especially in the first 2 years. Once you're committed the stupidity can open up a little more, but you're still around other who haven't yet signed away their souls so it won't be full-on immersion. Just wait until you get to your first unit and are nearing the end of your time as a PL and you will have some stories to share here. Such as the following! Next up to bat is my former RTO. He tells me 2 stories, completely umprompted; why you would tell someone these things is completely beyond me, but here we are. Story #1, as related to me, by him: guy is going down on a girl when she queefs in his face. He feels some splatter, and assumes it's nothing to be concerned about. He changes his mind when he tastes something "out of the ordinary". Girl admits to having hosed RTO's brother earlier in the day, who didn't a) wear a condom or b) pull out upon finishing. He got a smattering of cum that was deposited earlier by his brother, which had time to fester inside this sure-to-be-exceptional specimen of humanity before she blew it out on his face, when he then got a sample of. Story #2: rather tame. RTO ends up in the ER with a bath rail (like the one in some showers) up his rear end after "falling" on it, and "he grabbed as he slipped and was falling" while in the shower. A different note: one of my squad leaders came in one morning and declared "  hey my wife helped me wax my butthole, who wants to see ?!" at least 5 people follow him into the room where we had our little company store. Snacks, energy drinks, some dip on occasion everything an infantry joe needs to keep going. He walks in there and within seconds everyone that piled in is piling back out with a  look on their faces saying " DUDE THAT poo poo AIN'T RIGHT did it hurt very much?"
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Icon Of Sin posted:A different note: one of my squad leaders came in one morning and declared " Reminds me of this time in OSUT when like half the platoon crowded around a bathroom stall to watch a dude give himself an enema. They also did the same when one dude took a bet that he could jerk off with icy hot.
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GoGoGadget posted:I once called back a patient as Petty Officer First Class and he was all like, "Actually, it's HM2 Also:  I'd love to see a system where if it's shiny, easy to identify rank, you salute it. If it's subdued/camo rank, you don't. I thought the whole point of making it subdued was to avoid drawing attention of snipers or whatever, so you shouldn't be saluting anyway.
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" or something like that. The Navy has the most horrible rank system and insignias, followed very closely by the Marines who actively camoflague their ranks against their uniforms. What the hell?
Wingnut Ninja posted:I'd love to see a system where if it's shiny, easy to identify rank, you salute it. If it's subdued/camo rank, you don't. I thought the whole point of making it subdued was to avoid drawing attention of snipers or whatever, so you shouldn't be saluting anyway. We had that system and then enlisted sailors started wearing gold insignia.
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Signaleer posted:So we can totally wear our Ranger Challenge tabs around post right? Oh christ, those stupid loving things. We also have a thing here called "ranger platoon" which does the a lot of the things we do in lab (which are kinda fun, admittedly) but more often. Of course, they also do a shitload of extra PT, so gently caress that. Apparently a few days ago they did "room clearing." I had a vague idea that it was some SWAT-type thing for how to force your way into a building without taking casualties. Turns out that it's actually a fully choreographed maneuver, fully explained in field manuals which are available online. That's right! When entering buildings filled with booby traps and gunmen, American soldiers are expected to perform a very specific and highly predictable set of movements in concert with each other. And these cadets, having learned how to do this ridiculous dance, think they are suddenly high speed operators or some poo poo. Forgive me if I'm mistaken and this technique actually works but it seems like it would be really easy for each and every one of our enemies to specifically train to counter it. I suggested it would be way more efficient to just set the building on fire. tl;dr cadets are willing to believe blatantly ridiculous aspects of their training are turning them into elite warriors.
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Mortabis posted:Oh christ, those stupid loving things. No one gives a poo poo. No offense.
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Veins McGee posted:No one gives a poo poo. No offense. My apologies. I will exit this thread now.
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Mortabis posted:My apologies. I will exit this thread now. 
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Mortabis posted:My apologies. I will exit this thread now. Veins only accepts posts from hi speed lo drag types.
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One of my favorite stupid things when I was in Afghanistan: those mass emails from the KAF (or BAF most likely) listservs saying "M16 serno W99805 missing. If found, please report to blah blah blah." Two days later: "M16 serno W99805 found on top of washing machine in BLDG 21451095A on All-American Boulevard." Usually seemed to be POGs, since it was almost always an M16.
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Totally ratted out our team leader when he would constantly leave his M4 lying around outside where any fuckstick Iraqi policeman could grab it. XO was working with our small team at an IP station, and tore into him. He was an idiot, and a dick, and I give no fucks. 
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1stGear posted:Veins only accepts posts from hi speed lo drag types. I was just trying to mask my excitement for stories from ROTC. Mike-o posted:Totally ratted out our team leader when he would constantly leave his M4 lying around outside where any fuckstick Iraqi policeman could grab it. XO was working with our small team at an IP station, and tore into him. He was an idiot, and a dick, and I give no fucks. Had to drive back from the middle of the desert in Al-Anbar(north of Mobile/Michigan, south of the Euphrates) to the COP(near Syria) because some idiot lost his NVGs and they wanted us to dump footlockers and seabags.
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Veins McGee posted:I was just trying to mask my excitement for stories from ROTC. I had a buddy of mine get hospitalized on Bastion with a concussion after an IED strike. While he was laid up in bed, still concussed, our platoon sergeant(who never went on convoys with us, for the record. Not once.) went to see him so he could NJP him for losing his NVGs during said IED strike. Lost a stripe for it. But he got a PH!
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