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Magikoopa189 posted:Well, at least we can be safe in assuming she's not coming back. She's not in Arena, and that's the canon sequel, so... Actually, the P4G epilogue is set in Summer and they mention how stuff went crazy "Back in May" and Marie appears in the end.
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The new SMT IV trailer with English subtitles. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnwopvNSCQU&feature=youtu.be The game takes place in 1492 hummm. It feels so weird to hear Iwata talk about SMT. Edit:Over 400 demons is the most we ever got right? That thing is a Centaur?  not sure I like some of those Final Fantasy designs.
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Wow, it looks like armor actually looks different in-game. So we should be getting IV late summer/early fall right? DrManiac fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Feb 22, 2013 |
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Dehry posted:Actually, the P4G epilogue is set in Summer and they mention how stuff went crazy "Back in May" and Marie appears in the end. Ugh that's just...disappointing in every way.
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DrManiac posted:Wow, it looks like armor actually looks different in-game. I'm thinking late fall or early spring of '14.
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New SMT IV clips! Lots of new material these days: Walking/exploration video(looks great, lots of different environments) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdWLM-aAK9Q&feature=player_embedded Characters talking: Navarre http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j2lcReYMMgE Walter http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eKzRiDxKcLw Jonathan http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2zhsK-5qXME Isabeau http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lMU9r0j0NTQ Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Feb 23, 2013 |
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Kurtofan posted:New SMT IV clips! Lots of new material these days: I found a translation of the dialogue: quote:Navarre:
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Kurtofan posted:The new SMT IV trailer with English subtitles. It looks like they took the preemptive attacks on the dungeon map from P3/P4. (At least, the protag was slashing as them prior to battle entry.) And since this is SMT, here are some interesting events which happened in 1492 which may have some impact since we know how much Japanese writers love to take psuedo-historical events and mythologies and infuse them randomly into their stories: The Pentateuch is first printed. It was the end of the Granada War, the Reconquista, and Al-Andalus. The expulsion of the Jews from Catholic Spain and their migration to the Ottoman Empire. Pope Innocent VIII died and was replaced by Pope Alexander VI. I love how they had future tech and time travel back then.
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Couldn't the time travel and all the future tech being there imply that they were originally from the future though?
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Strange Quark posted:Couldn't the time travel and all the future tech being there imply that they were originally from the future though? The Black Samurai brings futuristic and forbidden knowledge to East Mikado.
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It's a magical gauntlet... that can have programs installed. Someone at Atlus really liked SJ.
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Strange Quark posted:Couldn't the time travel and all the future tech being there imply that they were originally from the future though? It would explain the 'France is fictional' thing. It existed so long ago that it's become myth.
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CottonWolf posted:It would explain the 'France is fictional' thing. It existed so long ago that it's become myth. It's clearly the long aftermath of Naoya's end in Devil Survivor 1.
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Mailer posted:It's a magical gauntlet... that can have programs installed. Someone at Atlus really liked SJ. SJ took that from Soul Hackers.
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SMT I had the Hero using a
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Hell, even Imagine had a tech-brace. I just assumed it was an SMT tradition.
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Cleretic posted:Hell, even Imagine had a tech-brace. I just assumed it was an SMT tradition. Yeah, Nocturne was the aberration from the norm for the series.
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Mailer posted:It's a magical gauntlet... that can have programs installed. Someone at Atlus really liked SJ. Someone who made SJ really liked SMT 1 and 2 as well! Might wanna go take a gander at what the protagonists of SMT1 and 2 are wearing.
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I think I swiftly left the enjoyment boat for the Fiend fights in Nocturne. Okay, I enjoyed Matador even if he kicked my rear end. Daisoujou and Hell Biker were fun challenges. Pale Rider (or White Rider, whichever the first Rider was) was... not actually fun, but I still appreciated it. But Red Rider is... more of the same, only now he's a bitch to fight. It was neat at first, fighting all these different specters of death with different styles. But I'm not really interested in fighting the Four Horsemen one at a time, that's boring, especially since they all fight basically the same.
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Mother Harlot was my choice favorite, but Hell Biker was pretty awesome.
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I might manage better coming at him with Mediarama later. In the meantime, wow is Isamu's Reason dumb. Doubly so because this isn't a loner we're talking about. This is the Obligatory Megaten Male Sidekick. He has friends, he has at least been, implicitly, co-operating with people before the events of the game! He might be kind of a dick, but someone infected him with The Stupids pretty bad here.
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Authorman posted:I do stick to those games, and so do most people who enjoy Atlus games. I'd just like Atlus to stop wasting resources producing bad games for people who are afraid of change and put out a new Digital Devil Saga in the Persona 4 battle engine or something equally as cool. You know, your opinions in the Shin Megami Tensei thread would go over a lot better if you weren't actively insulting everyone who liked Shin Megami Tensei.
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I haven't really had any problems with the Fiends. Now that could be because I have had Daisojou since either hell biker or right after hell biker, but they have not been that bad. e: And to punish my hubris the Trumpeter shows up and kicks my rear end. MagusDraco fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Feb 24, 2013 |
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Just wanted to thank everyone for replying to my p4g post a few pages back, managed to load up an old save and maxed my links like a boss. I haven't had this level of satisfaction from a game in a long time. Well, time to 100% my compendium I guess.
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Cross post from the 3DS thread but Soul Hackers Preorder $29.99 + $2.99 shipping at Fry's Electronicshttp://www.frys.com/product/7507046
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Marie is there to help transition the player's perspective from the mortal to the divine influences towards the end of the game that otherwise can feel somewhat parachuted in, and definitely does much more to foreshadow the True Ending. Sure, she may be flawed in execution, but it's not as if she's useless as a character.
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I finally got to the last dungeon in DDS 2 and I don't think I want to keep playing. The game took Sera and Serph, two characters I used heavily, and rolled then into one. Did I get any of the money I spent on their grid back? gently caress no. Then it gives me Heat who has the base grid, Argilla who has been dead for a long rear end time, and Cielo who I benched a lot. At least it gave me Gale back but knowing this game he's either weak to everything in the dungeon or is going to die soon. Please tell me things drop lots of money so I can afford mantras.
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Len posted:I finally got to the last dungeon in DDS 2 and I don't think I want to keep playing. The game took Sera and Serph, two characters I used heavily, and rolled then into one. Did I get any of the money I spent on their grid back? gently caress no. Then it gives me Heat who has the base grid, Argilla who has been dead for a long rear end time, and Cielo who I benched a lot. At least it gave me Gale back but knowing this game he's either weak to everything in the dungeon or is going to die soon. Please tell me things drop lots of money so I can afford mantras. Money shouldn't be a huge concern for you, no. Still, I understand your frustration. I didn't get Heat back, but the Seraph poo poo was extremely annoying, even if Seraph is very, very strong. Plus, I was already pretty pissed off since the game had been loving with my party all game.
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Easily my most hated thing about DDS2, if you don't use 2 very specific party members you'll have to do some heavy duty grinding at the end.
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Okay, the base idea behind Nocturne's ally choices is something along the lines of 'everyone in the world has terrible ideas for how the world should be run and only they can't see that', right? Or does the game seriously expect me to consider Hikawa a man with great ideas that should be followed? Right now I'm gravitating towards Chiaki not because I agree with her, but because her idea is only fairly awful as opposed to really loving awful.
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Cleretic posted:Okay, the base idea behind Nocturne's ally choices is something along the lines of 'everyone in the world has terrible ideas for how the world should be run and only they can't see that', right? Or does the game seriously expect me to consider Hikawa a man with great ideas that should be followed? Hikawa was a top-tier badass with the only interesting Reason.
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Dorroile posted:Hikawa was a top-tier badass with the only interesting Reason. Except not because his entire reason is to literally destroy the entire concept of individuality and a very nihilistic one at that too and its sponsor is the Zoroastrian version of Satan. Even Hikawa realizes how awful his reason was after you beat him, his is the least awful of the three characters, but it's nearly the same thing as instrumentality. Cleretic posted:Okay, the base idea behind Nocturne's ally choices is something along the lines of 'everyone in the world has terrible ideas for how the world should be run and only they can't see that', right? Or does the game seriously expect me to consider Hikawa a man with great ideas that should be followed? Just reset the world back to Neutral or go with Lucifer, those are the only two decent choices, I am not kidding on that last one.
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Except not because his entire reason is to literally destroy the entire concept of individuality and a very nihilistic one at that too and its sponsor is the Zoroastrian version of Satan. I would not read much into Ahriman being who he is mythologically. Keep in mind we're talking about a series where the Asura King is actually Dainichi Nyorai, who is REALLY ACTUALLY Ahura Mazda. Who is Light-Chaos and supposedly opposes YHVH. Despite being a god of light and order, just like YHVH. Sure, fine, let's go with that. Now explain why: A) This is also a series where the servants of Ahura Mazda happen to follow YHVH as members of the Seraph/Herald race, show up in the Justice arcanum in Persona grouped with the angels, et cetera et cetera. and B) Why Angra Mainyu tends to be depicted as a Tyrant, Dark-Chaos. Keep in mind that this is appropriate since Angra prefers, you know, chaos (in the sense of opposing order). Ahriman himself in SMT3 is a Tyrant. The developers do have a rare moment of self-awareness when they both show up in the same game. At which point they double down on their stupid ideological viewpoints and decide that Angra suddenly gets an alignment change to Dark-Law. Tallgeese fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Feb 26, 2013 |
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dis astranagant posted:True Demon Ending is the best ending precisely because you don't have to put up with those other morons. Sex_Ferguson posted:Just reset the world back to Neutral or go with Lucifer, those are the only two decent choices, I am not kidding on that last one. Except Lucifer has lovely plans, too. He's just aiming his poo poo higher than everyone else.
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Except not because his entire reason is to literally destroy the entire concept of individuality and a very nihilistic one at that too and its sponsor is the Zoroastrian version of Satan. Even Hikawa realizes how awful his reason was after you beat him, his is the least awful of the three characters, but it's nearly the same thing as instrumentality. I dunno, i thought it seemed pretty neat!
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Cleretic posted:Except Lucifer has lovely plans, too. He's just aiming his poo poo higher than everyone else. Lucifer is just tired of all this Vortex World bullshit, I think that's reason enough to follow him.
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Chiaki and Isamu's bullshit make a little more sense when you realize that both are the product of their deteriorating mental states (also because they are teenagers and teenagers are dumb as poo poo). I don't know what Hikawa's problem is though.
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