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Cocoa Crispies posted:lol j-language people hate the truth truth is not important to j-language people ergo it doesn't exist
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one hundred and five is obv 4
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and the parser just exploded
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tbh as much as I've truly loved hating on node.js, I can't be anything but impressed that sites like trello seem to work so well on a node.js + mongodb stack
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JawnV6 posted:one hundred and five is obv 4 Well, great, now we need to add another operator for "is-obviously".
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siri-based type checking
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type inference is the devil, i'm reading some pattern matching code and every line introduces like three new names and i have no idea what anything is anymore
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p-langs is about choice
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Suspicious Dish posted:p-langs is about choice
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Suspicious Dish posted:p-langs is about choice yes, the wrong choice
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p langs is about quick prototyping, or when you don't have the time to dive into a completely different ecosystem, or when you know you're going to be using some specialized library, or that your problem benefits from REPL-based development i suggest p = pragmatic langs
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is scala a plang or a jlang
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Werthog 95 posted:is scala a plang or a jlang neither, maybe an f-lang like clojure or haskell or f#
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horse mans posted:p langs is about quick prototyping, or when you don't have the time to dive into a completely different ecosystem, or when you know you're going to be using some specialized library, or that your problem benefits from REPL-based development actually quick ui prototyping is better in xaml and quick code prototyping is better in c#/java because its not really different from p-langs in terms of speed of development and you get access to all the platform bonuses.
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because ur coding in ur pj's
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Suspicious Dish posted:p-langs is about choice horse mans posted:p langs is about quick prototyping, or when you don't have the time to dive into a completely different ecosystem, or when you know you're going to be using some specialized library, or that your problem benefits from REPL-based development I don't think that anyone could seriously unequivocally say that js et al were not appropriate for some task. I mean, every language exists because it met someone's needs enough for them to create it, whether those needs were pedagogy, performance, pragmatism.
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MononcQc posted:Re: Lua lua is a glue language and it shows
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MononcQc posted:Yeah it'd be nice. At this point I favor writing components that are easier to throw away and replace than writing components that are reusable. loose coupling over extensibility every day
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Mar 4, 2013 19:17
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javascript is good for: popping up a window closing a window form validation everything else is an abuse of javascript.
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Shaggar posted:javascript is good for: Now let's talk about abuses of http.
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Shaggar posted:actually quick ui prototyping is better in xaml and quick code prototyping is better in c#/java because its not really different from p-langs in terms of speed of development and you get access to all the platform bonuses. ah yes, the much valued platform bonuses of Microshit Winblows
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Bream posted:Now let's talk about abuses of http. http is an abuse
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horse mans posted:ah yes, the much valued platform bonuses of Microshit Winblows yeah like a standard lib that works, the tied for best ide and tools, and far and away the best ui framework there is. and that's just for starters
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and as an extra bonus: no mobile customers, so you don't have to worry about people using your applications
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remember when a bunch of idiots literally thought html5 would be useful for mobile development? lol that was funny!
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remember when java was a set top box language that got pushed into the web browser? the promise of write once, debug everywhere don't let me stop this entirely stupid slap fight, it's not like you can't get dynamic typing (or, as some might call, late binding), and type checking in the same language none of this poo poo is mutually exclusive, just that the languages you're championing can't seem to get this idea in their head
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hey tef what's the best language
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the p stands for poop
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Werthog 95 posted:hey tef what's the best language prolog
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tef posted:prolog *nam style flashback to Programming Languages course* Pepe never made it back
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i accidentally gave everybody in my programming languages class the answers to our last prolog assignment when i showed them to a friend using a public pastebin and it showed up on google like 5 minutes later
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i simultaneously hope to never be a professional java programmer again (enjoying some hobby python programming atm), and feel that it is obvious that java has more solid thought and engineering behind it than the p-languages v v
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prolog is too magic for me, I have no mental model of how it functions (probably because I only used it once in Programming Languages Class, like half the other people in this thread) clearly the only solution to this is to write more prolog Cybernetic Vermin posted:i simultaneously hope to never be a professional java programmer again (enjoying some hobby python programming atm), and feel that it is obvious that java has more solid thought and engineering behind it than the p-languages v if it takes more boilerplate to write your code, that just must mean that the language is better engineered! all my favorite languages are 90% autogenerated by my IDE, I love reading & editing code written by a machine java is the assembly of 2013 (except with uglier syntax)
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i'm teaching the cs logics course this fall, need to get back into prolog 
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Shaggar posted:remember when a bunch of idiots literally thought html5 would be useful for mobile development? lol that was funny! 
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PleasingFungus posted:prolog is too magic for me, I have no mental model of how it functions (probably because I only used it once in Programming Languages Class, like half the other people in this thread) prolog is kinda like many things in that the ones teaching it often have a very poor understanding of it. read the art of prolog, it's pretty explanatory and kinda neat
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prolog is sw8, though i have no idea if somebody's written some real rear end poo poo innit the past 3 pages look like a bipolar aspie's diary btw
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it shipped inside of nt-4 for debugging irq conflicts. it's a bit of a velvet underground in that it is less about what was accomplished and more about what was inspired by it
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tef posted:prolog is kinda like many things in that the ones teaching it often have a very poor understanding of it. make sure you get a very recent copy, mine had all sorts of errata in it that was hand edited in also, one thing that helped me was writing a unification program. it's not too hard to make a simple unifier if you've already written a primitive compiler and it will go a long way in explaining how prolog goes about its business
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