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9031 | 65.25% |
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1191 | 8.60% |
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808 | 5.84% |
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460 | 3.32% |
| Waluigi |
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1603 | 11.58% |
| Waa |
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748 | 5.40% |
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theflyingorc posted:Why in the world do you not think this is a thing that will happen? Haven't Game Freak said that they never want to make a proper Pokemon game on anything other than a handheld? I suppose they could get someone else to do a Stadium style game for the NFC stuff but that's kinda 
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Mar 6, 2013 20:33
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Crowbear posted:Haven't Game Freak said that they never want to make a proper Pokemon game on anything other than a handheld? I suppose they could get someone else to do a Stadium style game for the NFC stuff but that's kinda Oh, not a proper Pokemon game, that doesn't work with the general idea of NFC stuff. But there's a billion ways to use Pokemon (or other licenses) to generate an NFC game in the setting. It's not something I would care about, but I'm not the target demographic for Skylanders, either.
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Mar 6, 2013 20:36
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theflyingorc posted:Oh, not a proper Pokemon game, that doesn't work with the general idea of NFC stuff. But there's a billion ways to use Pokemon (or other licenses) to generate an NFC game in the setting. It's not something I would care about, but I'm not the target demographic for Skylanders, either. I'd buy my favourite pokemon just for the figures of my favourite pokemon, let alone a platformer/action game to go with them.
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Mar 6, 2013 20:40
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theflyingorc posted:Oh, not a proper Pokemon game, that doesn't work with the general idea of NFC stuff. But there's a billion ways to use Pokemon (or other licenses) to generate an NFC game in the setting. It's not something I would care about, but I'm not the target demographic for Skylanders, either. Yeah that would be weird, I guess. Actually the whole figurine thing clashes with a lot of stuff in Pokemon (do you throw it out or replace it when your pokemon evolves?). I guess they could do something dumb like using it for the Rumble series which would be a big wet fart for me.
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Mar 6, 2013 20:41
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One idea I saw mentioned on Neogaf seemed pretty cool (...in the usual nerd sort of way): Pokemon card game w/NFC. Use them in real life or play online, can't cheat with printed cards like with other camera based stuff. Another one was special NFC Lego bricks in sets that could unlock the stuff in Lego CIty or whatever down the line.
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Mar 6, 2013 20:42
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MrFlibble posted:I'd buy my favourite pokemon just for the figures of my favourite pokemon, let alone a platformer/action game to go with them. This is pretty much why I collect Skylanders. The game doesn't last me long but the toys themselves look awesome.
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Mar 6, 2013 20:45
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Katana Gomai posted:I can't believe this is even a thing you are arguing about, there is no reason for them not to exist and it's painfully obvious that they would be a great option to have. No matter how much "but it works just fine for me" anecdotal evidence you stack up, the fact is that analog is a great thing for racing games (and others). Quit defending every single thing Nintendo does.
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Mar 6, 2013 20:50
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Crowbear posted:(do you throw it out or replace it when your pokemon evolves?). You transform it, duh.
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Mar 6, 2013 20:53
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The digital triggers don't bother me much since they only matter for the most hardcore of racing games, but yeah, absolutely no reason they shouldn't be there. Also absolutely no reason the Pro controller doesn't have a mic jack. There were a lot of really stupid decisions with this machine.
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Mar 6, 2013 21:01
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It would probably create absolute chaos if Nintendo created a Skylanders Pokemon where fully evolved Pokemon figurines were really rare and therefore expensive to get. Imagine the money spent if you don't know what Pokemon you get. You buy the Pokeball in stores and you have to be surprised at what you get. "I'VE BLOWN THROUGH A THOUSAND BUCKS AND ALL I GET ARE BUTTERFREES. gently caress YOU NINTENDO!"
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Mar 6, 2013 21:01
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Bombadilillo posted:Yeah, you have your pokemon statue. You level him up. Take him over to your friends house and NFC it into his WiiU. Your pokemon with your levels and stats and whatnot is there. It ties stuff to the object. (Dont lose it) Real life Team Rocket gonna steal your Pikachu statue.
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Mar 6, 2013 21:05
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:It would probably create absolute chaos if Nintendo created a Skylanders Pokemon where fully evolved Pokemon figurines were really rare and therefore expensive to get. *Available only at Nintendo World Store in NY during special events twice a year.
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Mar 6, 2013 21:10
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Minidust posted:The way that article describes NFC in games reminds me of the GameBoy e-reader cards actually. So did I. And I still have all the stuff I bought for them tucked away neatly in a cardboard card box.  I really wish there were more Super Mario Bros. 3 cards. The extra levels were worth the e-Reader alone.
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Mar 6, 2013 21:15
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For non dlc game uses of nfc, there is the example of Wii fit which will have an exercise dongle you can take with you then swipe at the controller to upload your walking stats. Which is still kind of pointless I think since you could use any other wireless standard to transmit that data. I don't really understand Nintendo's focus on it at all, and companies like Activation or Disney would rather sell their own portal to use with their toys. It could make it easy to buy poo poo with Google wallet I guess, but most uses are exactly "on disc dlc". A monster rancher type game where any NFC item randomly generates a monster like music CDs used to in the old one would be pretty cool.
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Mar 6, 2013 21:18
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greatn posted:For non dlc game uses of nfc, there is the example of Wii fit which will have an exercise dongle you can take with you then swipe at the controller to upload your walking stats. Pretty sure its just for Skylanders style games. I don't think its a secret either. Skylanders is a hit. Nintendo futureproofed WiiU so you dont have to buy a dongle to play those type games when they arrive.
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Mar 6, 2013 21:32
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Bombadilillo posted:Pretty sure its just for Skylanders style games. I don't think its a secret either. Skylanders is a hit. Nintendo futureproofed WiiU so you dont have to buy a dongle to play those type games when they arrive. Activision is making money on the dongle itself, even selling different versions of it, sometimes to people who don't even play the game.
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Mar 6, 2013 21:37
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As far as I know, Skylanders doesn't actually use the NFC standard and the figures won't be compatible with the Gamepad. In fact, the next Skylanders game is even going to require a new base and the old one won't even work anymore.
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Mar 6, 2013 21:44
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So in this hypothetical Wii U version of Skylanders you wouldn't actually be able to use the gamepad to play, right? Don't the figures need to sit on the "portal" to work? Seems like a clunky setup.
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Mar 6, 2013 21:44
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Crowbear posted:So in this hypothetical Wii U version of Skylanders you wouldn't actually be able to use the gamepad to play, right? Don't the figures need to sit on the "portal" to work? It could be a quick "scan" type thing instead. Skylanders requires the constant connection because it saves xp or whatever and you can swap out at any time.
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Mar 6, 2013 21:45
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elf help book posted:It could be a quick "scan" type thing instead. Skylanders requires the constant connection because it saves xp or whatever and you can swap out at any time. Right, I'm talking about Skylanders specifically. The quick swapping and persistent leveling seems pretty integral to how the games are designed, and I can't imagine them significantly reworking how the game is structured to let people not buy their proprietary doohickey. There's just no incentive for Activision or Disney not to use their own peripheral.
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Mar 6, 2013 21:52
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Crowbear posted:Right, I'm talking about Skylanders specifically. The quick swapping and persistent leveling seems pretty integral to how the games are designed, and I can't imagine them significantly reworking how the game is structured to let people not buy their proprietary doohickey. Agreed, which is why I think Nintendo touting NFC is for their own projects not someone else's moneymaker.
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Mar 6, 2013 21:53
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If Nintendo tries something like Smashlanders or Kartlanders, I have to imagine there would be backlash from a large segment of gamers who don't feel like buying toy figurines to get to on disc content. But we'll see what they come up with.
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Mar 6, 2013 21:57
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KimT posted:Zelda WiiU has no dungeon items, you have to create your inventory by scanning household objects "Oh yeah man, I scanned in my Toaster and shot Light Arrows out of that thing against Ganondorf. I heard the Microwave works well against his final form. I just used a Lawnmower."
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Mar 6, 2013 22:06
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greatn posted:If Nintendo tries something like Smashlanders or Kartlanders, I have to imagine there would be backlash from a large segment of gamers who don't feel like buying toy figurines to get to on disc content. Like most Nintendo backlashes it'll be, "THIS PISSES ME OFF BECAUSE I'M STILL GOING TO BUY IT"
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Mar 6, 2013 22:15
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NFC-powered Monster Rancher. Scan random poo poo in your house to generate your monster party. Make it happen.
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Mar 6, 2013 22:16
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Crowbear posted:So in this hypothetical Wii U version of Skylanders you wouldn't actually be able to use the gamepad to play, right? Don't the figures need to sit on the "portal" to work? They have to do this now. That doesn't mean that they'd have to do that in the future or with Nintendo's implementation of NFC. And that doesn't even take into account the possibility of just using the pad as the portal and not as a controller. If Nintendo makes it possible for Activision to easily sell more toys then Activision will cheerfully adopt whatever convenient method Nintendo provides them with selling toys.
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Mar 6, 2013 22:17
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Are we to the point where random poo poo has NFC chips in it? I thought it was just smartphones and some credit cards for the most part at this point.
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Mar 6, 2013 22:18
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greatn posted:If Nintendo tries something like Smashlanders or Kartlanders, I have to imagine there would be backlash from a large segment of gamers who don't feel like buying toy figurines to get to on disc content.
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Mar 6, 2013 22:19
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Smash with NFC figures would fit in well with the overall theme - when you play through the single player mode doesn't your character end up as a tiny figurine anyway? Hire some guys away from Capcom or Namco and keep expanding the roster until we're at a few hundred characters.
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Mar 6, 2013 22:19
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CubsWoo posted:Smash with NFC figures would fit in well with the overall theme - when you play through the single player mode doesn't your character end up as a tiny figurine anyway? Hire some guys away from Capcom or Namco and keep expanding the roster until we're at a few hundred characters. And here I thought Vanilla Brawl was an unbalanced nightmare. edit: vvv   Tread carefully.  vvv
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Mar 6, 2013 22:37
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Edoraz posted:And here I thought Vanilla Brawl was an unbalanced nightmare. Psssst....Smash Brothers was never intended for competitive play.
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Mar 6, 2013 22:40
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http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/03/nintendo_to_show_a_lot_of_unreleased_games_at_the_sxsw_gaming_expo Looks like a bunch of unreleased WiiU games are going to be showcased at SXSW in Texas this week. Apparently they're showcasing playable versions of Pikmin 3, Lego City Undercover, Monster Hunter 3, NFS Most Wanted, and Wonderful 101. I hope we end up getting some new gameplay videos and possibly release dates from this. I don't hold much hope for it, but it sure would be nice to hear SOMETHING.
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Mar 6, 2013 22:40
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I've seen Jeff from Giantbomb do a lot of things with skylanders and I find the concept interesting, but the game itself looks incredibly generic/boring and it's blatantly a cash grab by not letting you access certain things unless you own specific skylander figures. If Nintendo made a solid platformer or 3D game and let you use/swap characters from most of their franchises I'd probably be interested enough to give it a try. For example, if I could buy a figure of Waluigi and play him in NSMBU...i'd probably buy that.
katkillad2 fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Mar 7, 2013 |
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Mar 7, 2013 00:00
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katkillad2 posted:I've seen Jeff from Giantbomb do a lot of things with skylanders and I find the concept interesting, but the game itself looks incredibly generic/boring and it's blatantly a cash grab by not letting you access certain things unless you own specific skylander figures. If Nintendo made a solid platformer or 3D game and let you use/swap characters from most of their franchises I'd probably be interested enough to give it a try. For example, if I could buy a figure of Waluigi and play him in NSMBU...i'd probably buy that. The first game was actually quite fun. Clearly aimed at kids but essentially just a Gauntlet type game with a few crappy puzzles thrown in. The problem was that the first game was kinda slow paced and repeated puzzles too much because KIDS and then Giants just went even more in that direction rather than expanding. I played through skylanders with just the base set and had fun doing so, If they'd gone even more Gauntlet with the second game It would have probably been one of those "Games you should play" of the year instead of looking like an ugly cash grab attempt to milk the first game's success.
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Mar 7, 2013 00:19
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katkillad2 posted:I've seen Jeff from Giantbomb do a lot of things with skylanders and I find the concept interesting, but the game itself looks incredibly generic/boring and it's blatantly a cash grab by not letting you access certain things unless you own specific skylander figures. If Nintendo made a solid platformer or 3D game and let you use/swap characters from most of their franchises I'd probably be interested enough to give it a try. For example, if I could buy a figure of Waluigi and play him in NSMBU...i'd probably buy that. Remember that collecting the figures is a big part of the experience. And that it is marketed to children.
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Mar 7, 2013 00:23
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Natron posted:http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/03/nintendo_to_show_a_lot_of_unreleased_games_at_the_sxsw_gaming_expo Edit: Actually, never mind, I guess the chance to get extra coins is what expires on the 11th. 
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Mar 7, 2013 01:23
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Meet the new captains; My guess is it's Olimars son; the President's son; and Nikki from Swapnote's tiny future daughter vv Also confirmed that there's only 3 captains. The skinny purple guy with green hair got cut. 
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Mar 7, 2013 08:10
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Meet the new captains; My guess is it's Olimars son; the President's son; and Nikki from Swapnote's tiny future daughter v pikmin dudes should not have visible eyes unless they're making a weird facial expression THIS IS BULLSHIT
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Mar 7, 2013 09:49
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I remember when the make your own Mii flash game came out I made a butthead that ended up looking pretty similar to the fat guy in that shot.
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absolutely anything posted:pikmin dudes should not have visible eyes unless they're making a weird facial expression THIS IS BULLSHIT This is the first thing I noticed too! Where are my tiny squinty space people..
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