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zedprime posted:From an industrial background I find it kind of interesting the personal involvement and potentially egos involved when a product is seen as arty or whatever you want to call it. What about the guy who hand rolls his own ~artisinal toilet paper~?
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zedprime posted:From an industrial background I find it kind of interesting the personal involvement and potentially egos involved when a product is seen as arty or whatever you want to call it. I think the difference is the guy on the line wants to create a product that people buy, while in other industries it's about creating a product that people like. When I worked in software people were proud of our products and talked them up even to non-industry people because it was cool to say "I worked on this software you use." I don't know if there's really that level of pride in a manufacturing job unless it's a respected, special product. If the Saturn commercials in the 90s were to be believed, car workers love the poo poo out of the cars they build.
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zedprime posted:From an industrial background I find it kind of interesting the personal involvement and potentially egos involved when a product is seen as arty or whatever you want to call it. In Joseph Epstein's Snobbery- which I highly recommend- he mentions that at some point in the latter half of the 20th Century, working in kitchens in food preparation, in vineyards, etc. suddenly became positions of "craft" in social views. Prior, unless you were a seriously famous person in the food/beverage industry, it was looked upon as the equivalent of an industrial job and in many cases, less. It has a lot to do with a dramatic increase in service industry jobs, where the "creator" of those services has more prestige. And nearly a decade after the book was published, a boom in interest in food (via television) and beer (via awesome beer) has made "celebrity" chefs and brewers, etc. positions even more prestigious. This is the kind of celebrity that Jeppe and Mikkel have latched onto, good or bad. I'm not ready to compare brewing and industrial line work- and certainly do not believe that someone who works as a brewer isn't skilled or have a deeply developed craft- but the change in attitude towards the former compared to the latter is certainly interesting.
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Saint Darwin posted:I think the difference is the guy on the line wants to create a product that people buy, while in other industries it's about creating a product that people like. When I worked in software people were proud of our products and talked them up even to non-industry people because it was cool to say "I worked on this software you use." I don't know if there's really that level of pride in a manufacturing job unless it's a respected, special product. If the Saturn commercials in the 90s were to be believed, car workers love the poo poo out of the cars they build. Agreed. Frankly, there's also usual a socio-economic difference in the people in the two groups...
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Mar 22, 2013 16:46
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ShaneB posted:My buddy in Cleveland just picked up rose de gambrinus from a gas station. Welp. I know that gas station, and it's selection easily rivals the Beer Temple without a doubt. They're a craft beer gas station if that makes any sense. Edit: It's the Gulf just north of Salem in NE Ohio. BoredByThis fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Mar 22, 2013 |
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BoredByThis posted:I know that gas station, and it's selection easily rivals the Beer Temple without a doubt. They're a craft beer gas station if that makes any sense. Kinda like that Walgreens just west of the loop that briefly had Fou Foune.
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crazyfish posted:Kinda like that Walgreens just west of the loop that briefly had Fou Foune. The fancy walgreens isn't much like a Get Go on Clifton in Lakewood.
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ShaneB posted:The fancy walgreens isn't much like a Get Go on Clifton in Lakewood. Giant Eagle has some regional beer dudes who probably figured that Get Go moves fancy beer faster than languishing in a suburban grocery store.
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SUPER HASSLER posted:Yeah untappd is exactly what you want; plus, Achievements! Seekabrew.com shows Left Hand distributing here but this must be one of those cases where it's inaccurate as I've never seen it. Might have to ask around a bit.
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Someone brought in some un-nitro Milk Stout earlier and I just about died of excess bliss.
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dphi posted:Seekabrew.com shows Left Hand distributing here but this must be one of those cases where it's inaccurate as I've never seen it. Might have to ask around a bit. According to the map on the company site they go to WA and AZ but otherwise no state west of CO for some reason.
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Someone murdered the wiki... Maybe it's time for registration only edits?
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danbanana posted:Someone murdered the wiki... Maybe it's time for registration only edits? Dammit. I'll enable user only edits tonight. Probably make a few (most?) of you admins so you can approve them too.
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ChiTownEddie posted:Dammit. Rad. I brought back the front page and the Chicago page. Looked like most of the others were untouched.
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danbanana posted:Rad. I brought back the front page and the Chicago page. Looked like most of the others were untouched. Thanks, I IP blocked them. Actually I'll do this tomorrow morning, hopefully nothing else between now and then. Gotta watch bball tonight hah. Maybe then I'll get to creating the categories and such for general organization too...
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I'll be visiting Philli the first week of April and was wondering if anyone knows where I can get some Hill Farmstead, if it's available. I had their Simcoe pale ale at Hawthornes in October and I loved it.
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Raveen posted:I'll be visiting Philli the first week of April and was wondering if anyone knows where I can get some Hill Farmstead, if it's available. I had their Simcoe pale ale at Hawthornes in October and I loved it. Bookmark http://phillytapfinder.com/on-tap/ and pray.
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ChiTownEddie posted:Thanks, I IP blocked them. Didn't work, they came back and did it again with a different IP. Looks like bizarre botspam.
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Phanatic posted:Didn't work, they came back and did it again with a different IP. Looks like bizarre botspam. Sob. Okay. Screw being at work, I'm going to look up how to enable account only posting. E: Done. I'm going to check out this extension that requires confirmation to create an account. ChiTownEddie fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Mar 22, 2013 |
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It's probably super polarizing but i'm drinking a Green Flash Palate Wrecker right now and it's delicious. Super hoppy. Almost painfully so. Tastes like grapefruit rind and pine resin but with a really nice malt undertone that you don't find in a lot of one note hop bombs. Are there any other beers I should be on the look out for that are similar?
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HatfulOfHollow posted:It's probably super polarizing but i'm drinking a Green Flash Palate Wrecker right now and it's delicious. Super hoppy. Almost painfully so. Tastes like grapefruit rind and pine resin but with a really nice malt undertone that you don't find in a lot of one note hop bombs. Are there any other beers I should be on the look out for that are similar? Abrasive is right up there with that if you have Surly accessible to you. Most people compare it to Ruination, I do think Palate Wrecker is better though. Also Union Jack and Hoptimum are around that same vein.
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HatfulOfHollow posted:It's probably super polarizing but i'm drinking a Green Flash Palate Wrecker right now and it's delicious. Super hoppy. Almost painfully so. Tastes like grapefruit rind and pine resin but with a really nice malt undertone that you don't find in a lot of one note hop bombs. Are there any other beers I should be on the look out for that are similar? I like Palate Wrecker but I don't really care for West Coast IPA. Its weird.
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air- posted:Abrasive is right up there with that if you have Surly accessible to you. Huh. I wouldn't compare Abrasive to Palate Wrecker at all. PW is a quintessential West Coast "let's make this hoppy as hell" DIPA, while Abrasive has, y'know, balance. I don't dislike PW, but I'll take Ruination any day over it for that type of DIPA.
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Has anyone had this year's Peruvian Morning? I heard last year's was infected and was a bit tart. I'm drinking a 2013 now and it has a slight tartness to it as well. It still tastes really good but just slightly...off.
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Compusaurus posted:Has anyone had this year's Peruvian Morning? I heard last year's was infected and was a bit tart. I'm drinking a 2013 now and it has a slight tartness to it as well. It still tastes really good but just slightly...off. I've had both last year's and this years and I tasted no infection this year. Reports on BA found one person with a potentially infected bottle but it seemed to be isolated.
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Yeah, I've had quite a few bottles of it and haven't experienced anything remotely off.
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crazyfish posted:I've had both last year's and this years and I tasted no infection this year. Reports on BA found one person with a potentially infected bottle but it seemed to be isolated. i'm assuming the "one person" is this year, right? the bottle i received in trade from last year was definitely infected.
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funkybottoms posted:i'm assuming the "one person" is this year, right? the bottle i received in trade from last year was definitely infected. Yes. edit: Here's the thread: http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/infected-peruvian-morning.74511/
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Well, I have seven more bottles so maybe it's just my mind playing tricks on me. As I said, it's still quite enjoyable. As an aside, anyone have advice on whether to bother aging Coffee BCBS? I've heard mixed reviews between the coffee notes becoming subtler and it flat out tasting better. I have a bottle left and feel like popping it open tonight.
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Compusaurus posted:As an aside, anyone have advice on whether to bother aging Coffee BCBS? I've heard mixed reviews between the coffee notes becoming subtler and it flat out tasting better. I have a bottle left and feel like popping it open tonight. The coffee dies, but is still definitely there. I personally think it's a little too sweet/artificial when it's really fresh, so my preference is some time on it prior to opening.
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danbanana posted:The coffee dies, but is still definitely there. I personally think it's a little too sweet/artificial when it's really fresh, so my preference is some time on it prior to opening. Agree with this. BCBS coffee is very coffee forward when fresh and I much prefer it with a few months (minimum) on it.
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crazyfish posted:Agree with this. BCBS coffee is very coffee forward when fresh and I much prefer it with a few months (minimum) on it. I've had three bottles this year that were fresh and enjoyed it a lot. The bottle I have now has been sitting in the fridge since late November so odds are the flavor hasn't changed dramatically. That said, I'll probably hold off for a bit longer as the person I intended on sharing it with won't be around tonight.
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I had my first and only Bourbon County Coffee this year. It was a month from bottling and I thought it was sublime. The coffee is strong and matched by an intense chocolate syrup flavor with a light barrel presence. I liked it a million times more than Bourbon County Stout actually. The only other beer I put on its level is KBS, for bourbon barrel imperial stouts anyway.
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Just had a Deschutes Red Chair NWPA for the first time. Is this supposed to be a diacetyl bomb, or did I get a bad one? Also, I got a Petrus Aged Red the other day, but have yet to open it. Anyone have this one yet?
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Well Stone Enjoy By  made it to Colorado. This beer rules. The store where I found it had a 1 bottle limit but I may cruise for more tomorrow because it's worth the effort. I do get a hint of the onion I see people bitching about on BA but to my palate it's really minor and only the aftertaste.bolo yeung posted:Just had a Deschutes Red Chair NWPA for the first time. Is this supposed to be a diacetyl bomb, or did I get a bad one? Bad one. I'm pretty sensitive to diacetyl and I love Red Chair.
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BoredByThis posted:I know that gas station, and it's selection easily rivals the Beer Temple without a doubt. They're a craft beer gas station if that makes any sense. Are you talking about the Country Pantry Gulf on Route 224 and 45 in Ellsworth? My mom actually told me they have a ton of stuff. It's 15 from my house and I've actually never been there.
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I tried all five beers made for restaurant Noma side by side yesterday. I really enjoyed the evil twin juniper, the juniper came through in a wonderful fashion. The Mikkeller Pontus was the most interesting of the bunch. It's made with lemon verbena which is one of my favourite herbs and like the juniper, the herb plays a major role in the taste. The Novel was fine, but the Oxalis and the birch beer from Skovlyst didn't really do anything for me. The labels are wonderful as well: http://i1.minus.com/idbIhtFaJ0BvS.JPG e: Does anyone have some recommendations when it comes to herbal beers? It's a category I'm not really familiar with. Aumuller fucked around with this message at 10:54 on Mar 23, 2013 |
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Aumuller posted:e: Does anyone have some recommendations when it comes to herbal beers? It's a category I'm not really familiar with. you're in Scandinavia, right? if so, i bet you find a sahti or two, those are made with juniper instead of hops. no idea what American stuff you might get over there, but Stillwater (another gypsy brewer who has made a lot of beer in Europe) makes some really good saisons with various extra ingredients, particularly Cellar Door and the Import Series. in general, i find that sage and basil (Bruery Trade Winds) can work well in beer, but most other herbs- especially rosemary- taste very medicinal to me (Saison du Buff). also, Haandbryggeriet makes a lot of beers with unusual/traditional ingredients, i bet you could find something from them funkybottoms fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Mar 23, 2013 |
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funkybottoms posted:you're in Scandinavia, right? Sahti sounds amazing! I had never heard about it before but it's on the top of my to-buy list now - juniper in beer is amazing! And the rest sounds good as well. I've never really gotten into saisons, so this might be the time. Stillwater is definitely available, so I'll try that. Thanks!
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I just passed the Cicerone Certified Beer Server exam. It was one of the easiest things I've ever done though I have some qualms with it. First they generalize bocks as 6.3% and higher and secondly if I wanted to I could have Googled the questions. I took it honestly and got 4 questions wrong, 2 about kegs and one about hops because I misread and thought it said 100+ varieties of hops and it said 1,000. I guess I suppose I thought taking this would actually be somewhat difficult, but it wasn't at all. It feels cheapened by the fact that it's online. I can't help but think they love that they can charge $70 for something like this. Edit: And you print the certificate, wow they don't even mail it to you! Ha.
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