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Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010

some texas redneck posted:

Though I am kinda wondering why they built up a D16 for any other reason than to say "Real men only need one cam".

"Rock out with your SOHC out" :rock:

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nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Polymerized Cum posted:

I never understood the point of those covers.

Anyone who is appalled at the greasy mechanical things under the hood is not going to be popping the hood very often.

Anyone who spends a lot of time with the greasy mechanical things doesn't want a cover to get in the way.

Most of them are designed to either work as sound insulation or direct air.
Fun fact is that a legacy gt will run hotter if you remove the engine cover.

Cenodoxus
Mar 29, 2012

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nm posted:

Most of them are designed to either work as sound insulation or direct air.
Fun fact is that a legacy gt will run hotter if you remove the engine cover.

I'd imagine it's like running a gaming computer with the side panel open. People run open cases on overclocked setups in an attempt to improve airflow, without realizing they're screwing up the directional airflow that's responsible for removing waste heat from the important parts of the system.

Speaking of open cases, is the whole "drive your ricer around without a hood" thing still around?

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
I have some friends at Willow Springs right now for time attack and there is also some drifting. Seems to be going well:



davebo
Nov 15, 2006

Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito
College Slice

Maker Of Shoes posted:

How can I be sure that his vehicle is, in fact, the illest? What about the fine automobile next to it? Perhaps his is iller than the self proclaimed illest. Does he have the stickers discussing levels of ill as well?

Yeah, but his just say "illish"

DJ Commie
Feb 29, 2004

Stupid drivers always breaking car, Gronk fix car...
The best part is that the track bills people for damage to the track. When I see entire front ends in a different color, I see either and engine fire not put out fast enough, or some $600 coilovers shimmed with hardware store washers to have any semblance of alignment with a bent frame.

davebo posted:

Yeah, but his just say "illish"


moderate upper management of health impairment

Nuevo
May 23, 2006

:eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop:
Fun Shoe

Ah, must be an older one then, the new unibody ones are triwing:


Still dumb.

Cenodoxus
Mar 29, 2012

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jamal posted:

I have some friends at Willow Springs right now for time attack and there is also some drifting. Seems to be going well:





Of those two cars, the top one certainly looks the illest. :parrot:

DJ Commie posted:

The best part is that the track bills people for damage to the track.

Is that covered under track day insurance, or is it all put on the driver either way?

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

The one guy in the stands. :lol:

G-Mach
Feb 6, 2011

Cenodoxus posted:

Of those two cars, the top one certainly looks the illest. :parrot:


Is that covered under track day insurance, or is it all put on the driver either way?

If you break a concrete barrier or destroy a fence with your car you typically have to pay for it.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Boat posted:

Ah, must be an older one then, the new unibody ones are triwing:


Still dumb.
No, their most recent new computer still uses pentalobes.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Retina+Display+Late+2012+Teardown/11225/1

Aurune
Jun 17, 2006

G-Mach posted:

If you break a concrete barrier or destroy a fence with your car you typically have to pay for it.

Yeah, and it's not cheap. Here's someone's bill who Nurburwronged.
http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.php?220631-Nurburgring-Accident-Costs

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007


Took this today in Seattle.

As you'd expect the driver is mid-thirties, chubby, greasy unkempt black hair with the little bald spot you can see in the picture.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

Aurune posted:

Yeah, and it's not cheap. Here's someone's bill who Nurburwronged.
http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.php?220631-Nurburgring-Accident-Costs

A nice related story, last time I was there a dude wrote off his car and needed to pay 3k. He was at the desk in tears maxing out all his credit cards when a random Yank just walked over and said, "I know that feeling" and paid for it in full :)

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Polymerized Cum posted:

Anyone who would have been discouraged by a cover would never have attempted to work on it anyway.

Like the specialty screwdrivers that Apple used to hold my MacBook Pro's battery in. Anyone with the gumption to replace it themselves isn't going to be stopped by a screwdriver.

Apple has now made this stupid non-serviceable notebook a thing. No removable batteries on lots of windows notebooks now.
The best approach is lenovo which on the newest T-series ultrabook (to the carbon, which is actually non-servicable) has a smooth bottom. The difference is that if you go to the manual, they tell you how to remove the bottom (which appears to take about 5 second) and you get a normal notebook bottom where you can replace batteries, HDs, memeory, etc.
What amuses me is that this can only exist because consumers asked for it -- but lenovo saw how stupid that request is.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

nm posted:

Apple has now made this stupid non-serviceable notebook a thing. No removable batteries on lots of windows notebooks now.
The best approach is lenovo which on the newest T-series ultrabook (to the carbon, which is actually non-servicable) has a smooth bottom. The difference is that if you go to the manual, they tell you how to remove the bottom (which appears to take about 5 second) and you get a normal notebook bottom where you can replace batteries, HDs, memeory, etc.
What amuses me is that this can only exist because consumers asked for it -- but lenovo saw how stupid that request is.

My no-name Eurocom Monster has a tool-less backing access to the entire mobo. :smug:

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


I have a Droid Global 2. I'm holding onto it because I'm desperately holding onto my Verizon grandfathered unlimited data (which means I have to hold onto 3G). I've looked at a Global 3, which would be a good upgrade.

But I thought a bit about what if I had to bite the bullet and go to 4G. The Droid 4 is the next model. And it has a locked away battery that is not user changeable! :psyduck:

If not even to have a spare battery, just alone for the fact that one of the main ways to do a reboot if the phone locks up is to rip the battery out, I can't ever see myself getting one of those!

Cenodoxus
Mar 29, 2012

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Aurune posted:

Yeah, and it's not cheap. Here's someone's bill who Nurburwronged.
http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.php?220631-Nurburgring-Accident-Costs

:stonk: 1,000 euro to replace two crash barriers, 15,000 euro for a crashed motorcycle with medical transport.

I remember when I was just a stupid kid who got a kick out of hitting the eighth-mile strip just across the river on open track night. I didn't think much of it then, but the realization ex post facto of just how much damage I could have done with one single gently caress-up is pretty sobering.

Astroman posted:

If not even to have a spare battery, just alone for the fact that one of the main ways to do a reboot if the phone locks up is to rip the battery out, I can't ever see myself getting one of those!

It's pretty sad to think that even Google-engineered devices are going that route. The Nexus 4's battery is glued down, and while it's technically replaceable it's not exactly "user-removable".

Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.
Pretty much every phone has a way to reboot the phone without pulling the battery. Home + power for a few seconds.

A lot of phones with non-replaceable batteries are pretty easy to replace as well. For example, the iPhone 4 and 4s, you just unscrew the 2 pentalobes on the bottom, pull out the back glass, and the battery is right there.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Astroman posted:

If not even to have a spare battery, just alone for the fact that one of the main ways to do a reboot if the phone locks up is to rip the battery out, I can't ever see myself getting one of those!

Wild EEPROM posted:

Pretty much every phone has a way to reboot the phone without pulling the battery. Home + power for a few seconds.

This. On the Nexus 4 and Amazon Kindle Fire (both of which I own), you just hold the power button for ~10 seconds (N4) or 15 seconds (KF) to force a power off. Neither of them have a home button either; the only button on the KF is the power button.

The solution is to carry a charger or power pack, unfortunately. :smith: But a lot of the newer devices are a lot more efficient and/or have larger batteries. You can still replace them on most devices when the battery finally wears out, it's just a bit more work (and honestly, you'll likely have moved on to a new device by then anyway). The battery life in my N4 nearly tripled when 4.2.2 came out; that update fixed a lot of wake lock issues.

Cenodoxus posted:

It's pretty sad to think that even Google-engineered devices are going that route. The Nexus 4's battery is glued down, and while it's technically replaceable it's not exactly "user-removable".

It's also under a glass cover, though it's about on par with replacing the battery in my old Zune (with the addition of some glue)

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


VY Commodores and their great idea of using 'quick release' fuel line connectors that need a special part or you destroy the connector and have to replace all the lines. I do have the required clips luckily - its just a terrible thing to have.

Also having a fuel regulator mated to the fuel rail (and crimped on return line). Forcing you (me) to buy the whole assembly. That and the way it is bolted in means you have to remove the MAF, throttle body and Plenum just to get to the bolts. 1 minute job just got annoying.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
Most cars have that. The tools look like this

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=635714&group_ID=675561&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

I usually just unclamp the other end of the line at the rail.

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005

jamal posted:

Most cars have that. The tools look like this

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=635714&group_ID=675561&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

I usually just unclamp the other end of the line at the rail.

Are we talking about the ones with that ring shaped plastic tab sort of thing or those monstrosities with the O ring inside them? The former I use an open ended spanner to push 3/4 of it and my finger for the open side. Th eO ring ones I had to take it to the mechanic because I had no goddamn idea.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009
Probation
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General_Failure posted:

Are we talking about the ones with that ring shaped plastic tab sort of thing or those monstrosities with the O ring inside them? The former I use an open ended spanner to push 3/4 of it and my finger for the open side. Th eO ring ones I had to take it to the mechanic because I had no goddamn idea.

The latter.

And they are called quick connects (not disconnects like someone else has posted). They are quite simple to undo with an AUD$300 set of plastic tools. We get them for $20 in the US.

You just find the proper size to put around the hose connection, slide it in and the connection pulls right apart.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
I use the anodized aluminum quick connect tools from the tool aisle of autozone, they work great. The plastic ones suck, as do the one size fits none version that looks like a pair of cast potmetal scissors.

Up here in the rust belt, they are aptly named, they do connect quickly, but they didn't say a loving thing about how slowly they come apart and how many words you have to use :argh:

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009
Probation
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kastein posted:

I use the anodized aluminum quick connect tools from the tool aisle of autozone, they work great. The plastic ones suck, as do the one size fits none version that looks like a pair of cast potmetal scissors.

I've never had any trouble with the plastic ones yet, but also living in the rust belt I pretty much dip vehicles in Kryoil before I begin working on them.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Remember when Audi had to add a spoiler to the TT to combat high-speed lift?



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-21916129

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
What kind of Brit describes that as 4 feet off the ground? How about 1.3 meters EH?

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
The insistence on the metric system from certain quarters doesn't really stick. People generally still think in feet, particularly for any kind of rough guesstimate.

I barely even notice, I spend too much time switching between units to really think about it anymore.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal
Canadians often use feet / inches in my experience, also. Fahrenheit too, for ovens at least. Most of my experience is in B.C. though, could be different elsewhere.
edit: Look at the squishy Audi. D'oh.

Kia Soul Enthusias fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Mar 25, 2013

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


CharlesM posted:

Canadians often use feet / inches in my experience, also. Fahrenheit too, for ovens at least. Most of my experience is in B.C. though, could be different elsewhere.
edit: Look at the squishy Audi. D'oh.

Yeah the Canadian system is a bit odd. Officially metric, and anything big, small, or precise will be in metric, but it's colloquially imperial for roughly human-scale measures. The fahrenheit for ovens is a completely bizarre one though, because while I think water freezes at 32F, I have no idea what it boils at, and most Canadians have no idea what farenheit actually represents outside of vague stuff like 100 being when Americans start complaining it's hot out, and yet we cook our food using it and measure swimming pool temperature in it.
The UK is bizarro world too, because everything is metric except distance which is miles, and weight is some weird archaic thing called a stone.
When it comes to fuel economy, it's miles to the gallon, but you pump your gas in liters and nobody knows how many liters are in a gallon.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009
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Linedance posted:

When it comes to fuel economy, it's miles to the gallon, but you pump your gas in liters and nobody knows how many liters are in a gallon.

Or how many gallons are in a gallon, as UK MPG is in imperial gallons and US MPG is in US gallons (which is about 5/6 of an imperial gallon).

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Linedance posted:


When it comes to fuel economy, it's miles to the gallon, but you pump your gas in liters and nobody knows how many liters are in a gallon.

This is the bit I don't understand. Everything else I use interchangeably depending on who I'm talking to and what it's about.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal

Linedance posted:

Yeah the Canadian system is a bit odd. Officially metric, and anything big, small, or precise will be in metric, but it's colloquially imperial for roughly human-scale measures. The fahrenheit for ovens is a completely bizarre one though, because while I think water freezes at 32F, I have no idea what it boils at, and most Canadians have no idea what farenheit actually represents outside of vague stuff like 100 being when Americans start complaining it's hot out, and yet we cook our food using it and measure swimming pool temperature in it.
The UK is bizarro world too, because everything is metric except distance which is miles, and weight is some weird archaic thing called a stone.
When it comes to fuel economy, it's miles to the gallon, but you pump your gas in liters and nobody knows how many liters are in a gallon.

Older folks seem to be more versed in the "traditional" units; it wasn't that long ago Canada switched. Same with Australia. I imagine it's a big cultural shift, but, I can't say from experience -- we seem to be very behind the curve here in the U.S.

IPCRESS
May 27, 2012
The imperial system is often used as a shorthand to avoid issues with false precision.

It's just hard coded into us at a genetic level* that "About 2.5 centimeters" is automatically translated as "This has been measured to 25mm ±0.5 mm, and I will become unreasonably upset when I fabricate something and the actual gap I needed to bridge turns out to be 27.2mm", while "About an inch" translates to "This has been eyeballed from some distance by a person with cataracts in poor light and I should not regard it as a usable number for anything but a sense of scale".

*: not really, but a lot of people act this way.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Falkenbok posted:

The imperial system is often used as a shorthand to avoid issues with false precision.

It's just hard coded into us at a genetic level* that "About 2.5 centimeters" is automatically translated as "This has been measured to 25mm ±0.5 mm, and I will become unreasonably upset when I fabricate something and the actual gap I needed to bridge turns out to be 27.2mm", while "About an inch" translates to "This has been eyeballed from some distance by a person with cataracts in poor light and I should not regard it as a usable number for anything but a sense of scale".

*: not really, but a lot of people act this way.

Pretty much, if you walk into a machine shop and try to throw inches as a measurement unit for anything, most of them will ask you to re-measure or get different measurements in meters.

Metric is pretty much standard for machining now.

Jezrael
May 1, 2005
the bagel is an adequate vessel of nutrition
In Newfoundland, I've not heard too many people with construction jobs use anything other than 1/16th of an inch at the smallest, then above that it's feet, until you reach kilometers. (and liters and celcius unless you're about 60 years old). It's different when you come to schooling, but even then most people use imperial for casual distance measurements.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Part of the problem in Canada is that we got all our bolts and stoves from the US, so that was always going to be Imperial. Now that we get our poo poo from Korea and China they put ovens in Fahrenheit because that's the only thing we know. The bolts are expensive metric ones though.

Also why is there and extra h in Fahrenheit. I though adding needless letters was a Canadian thing. Colour me surprised!

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal
It's a German surname.

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NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice
Track gage, profile and alignment for US railroads is measured in inches and fractions thereof, which makes measuring for defects by hand a royal pain in the rear end. Perfect track gage is 56 1/2", but can range from anything between 56" to 58" with allowable track speed stepping down as the gage gets wider.

All other measurements aside;
gage up to 57 1/2" - 80mph max
gage up to 57 3/4" - 40mph max
gage up to 58" - 10mph max
gage 58"+ - walking speed, you ain't s'posed to have trains runnin' on this poo poo anyway! What the hell!! When's the last time you looked at this? By god the next train through here woulda needed mud tires!

Track gage is measured between the insides of the tops of the rails,
plus any evidence of tie plate movement on the tie (pushing),
plus any gap between the base of the rail and the outer lip of the tie plate,
plus any overflow of material built up on the rail if you can't get your tape under it,
plus an allowance for rail cant (rails tilting outward as trains pass over).

So let's say you bend down and take a measurement of 56 3/4" ball to ball along a straight section of particularly lovely main line rail. Good for 80mph, right?

But you've got 1/8" of overflow on both rails, they're pretty worn.
The tie plates have been pushing 1/4" on each side, could use some new ties or spike goop.
You've got a 1/8" gap between the base and the tie plate on one side, and 1/4" on the other.
Quick, what speed are we good for through here? Ok, now take a measurement every twenty paces or so.

I feel like switching to millimeters would be so much more straightforward, it's so easy to make mistakes when you're doing mental math with fractions. You do get better with repetition, but it's such a pain in the rear end not to mention time consuming and a potential liability. Ah well, it's the way things have been done for 150 years so we might as well keep it up and never change.

Answer: 40mph you tucked the dumb end of your tape under the overflow when you took your measurement, which puts you at 57 1/2" dead nuts. But then there's rail cant to add in (1/16th each side usually) and the fact that conditions will deteriorate with time and traffic.

NoWake fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Mar 25, 2013

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