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Madcosby posted:That meter is so scientific, from very very hungry to kinda hungry to maybe hungry to starved to "neutral" to a tad hungry to somewhat neutral Get a pencil and a notebook. Mark on the scale of 1-10 how hungry you are at certain times of the day. Save $10,000.
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No kid thinks they can make a blockbuster movie in their back yard, you can't afford a proper camera much less editing and special effects. Maybe you can do a home camcorder thing for fun, but you know its going to be lovely. Even kickstarting it would be seen as ridiculous. We all know it takes millions to make a blockbuster movie. But... because software is magic? People think kids can really make games?  And yet, that's the expectation we present to kids. Go make something yourself! Make your own Halo, Jimmy! That's honestly cruel. Then the game itself sucks and the kid feel like its their fault?Teaching kids to make games should involve giving them a Raspberry Pi and helping them make a text-based Zork knockoff in BASIC! Its that simple, and then you're actually learning a skill that you can later make into a career, and you're actually producing original content that you made yourself. And you understand how it came together, instead of just clicking buttons on some GUI as you're told to do.  Using RPG maker to "make your game" is no different than paying a vanity press so you're "a published author" now. Sure, buddy. But not really. Not at all. Thats why people are saying the camp is a scam. Its full of unrealistic expectations. They're implying that you're going to learn a skill, but playing with MS Paint at home is going to get you just as much "skill" as kicking soccer balls and having some disgruntled camp manager walk a classroom through how to modify a sprite and load up the default settings. The fact that they're called "iD" is also really scammy. But all in all, the camp probably isn't that bad, gives kids something to do at least, it IS a camp. The camp isn't as scammy as the kickstarter. Zaphod42 has a new favorite as of 23:54 on Mar 25, 2013 |
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Ernutetnoiraud posted:Call me stupid, but this just sounds like a parent being... well, a parent. The daughter probably came up with the ridiculous idea to go to camp, the mother being semi-intelligent shot it down and asked the daughter to read documentation herself, the brothers laughed at it, the daughter complained, the mother said she will help her daughter but if only the daughter can pay her back, and they turned to kickstarter for free money while teaching the daughter how to market herself (currently, the ideal would be as a victim). Once the kickstarter blew up, the mother spammed celebrities saying "look at how cool my daughter is" to both bolster her own reputation and get her daughter whatever bonuses she can. So, if your sons are bullying your daughter, the proper response is to allow her to start a kickstarter, write it yourself, manage it yourself, insult your sons on the internet (with pictures) and promise to the internet that your sons will apologize to them if they pay enough money. poo poo, I thought it would be like, talking to your sons, or something. I guess I'd be a bad mother.  Its very obvious the daughter didn't write a word on that page. So your story holds no water. The mom is running this. She may as well just send her kid to camp, its not teaching some "life lesson". The only "life lesson" being taught is to her sons, which is "my mom is a huge douche". I mean really, quote:I tried to wrangle my family together to do a quick video update at about 8pm last night to prove we were real. That, as you'd suspect, turned into a total nightmare because one of my son's in particular has a chip on his shoulder about everything. His snide comments led to his father yelling at him which led to a video that was not exactly the Wilson family at its best. But to quell the "scam" rumors I almost posted it. Zaphod42 has a new favorite as of 23:53 on Mar 25, 2013 |
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"DAMMIT SON YOU WILL POSE FOR THE VIDEO THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT A COLOSSAL JACKASS YOU ARE SO WE CAN POST IT ON THE INTERNET, AND YOU WILL LIKE IT."
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I really want to know what kinds of families Goons grew up in where brothers and sisters bickering and teasing each other (while still helping each other out in the end, however begrudgingly) is an outrageous sign of weakness and the measure of a parent is how much of a death-grip they have on their childrens' behavior. Like, even the most  shut-in only child can't be that disillusioned about how families are, right?
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evilcrusher2 posted:Is honesty a justification for breaking the site's rules now? So can I get tuition to get an applied computer sciences degree kickstarter going to make an awesome video game? And as long as I state that making a future video game or RPG is the reason, along with what i plan on buying with the money will be included. Does that make it okay ? We're arguing two different things here. I think you want it come down, and I don't care an ounce. If you were to ask me whether or not I'd take it down based on setting a fund-my-life trend on kickstarter, I'd say it should come down. But, you'd also have to convince me that a 9-year-old is capable of stirring that much encouragement for people to follow suit. At a certain level, the amount of publicity people are giving this thing is making it a lot bigger than it should have been, and that, in turn, will result in more fund-my-life projects hoping to slip through. DeepDickPizza posted:Why would this be grounds for mass revolt? From what I remember quite a few people here called the Honey Badger BBQ Sauce guys incompetent for that miscue and got upset at them. To the best of my knowledge, though, they said they were going to rectify the problem with their production facility and send out new product to backers once they got it figured out. I'm honestly wondering how you decided to even remotely equate that project with this one? I'm equating it based on grounds for removal from kickstarter. To me "We almost poisoned people," is much worse than "I exploited the good nature of people less fortunate than I." If kickstarter wants to ban projects that mar their reputation (i.e. fund my life/pornography) out of principle, then I don't see why they couldn't add food products to that category (especially when health products are banned) based on the incident. Then again, the way I worded my entire argument hinged on the fact that I think people are over-reacting, not that I think all three categories are equivalent in how they should be banned. Zaphod42 posted:Really? No, but if you want to teach your daughter some classic moves on how to be self-reliant and how to market herself in a world slated against her, then a website that promises to give you free money with no actual obligation to provide a product in return is a god-send. This is regardless of whether or not you are a millionaire, since free money is free money. I've also used words like "semi-intelligent" and accused her of spamming, so note that I do have a low opinion of the mother. You and I (and everybody else involved) can go back and forth about whether or not this was an orchestrated by the mother (since she herself is a competitor in crowdfunding), whether or not the daughter wrote a word on the page (her daughter could be in the country's best private school for all we know), and whether or not it's funny to lay every single part of family life bare for $20k (it is), but those issues seem to be subtext to the RPG camp hate/you don't even need the money/how dare you become a satire of the feminist movement arguments.
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Stalin-Chan posted:I love Portland/Seattle and I think this is an amazing Kickstarter; coincidence? Seriously? All the merits listed basicly boil down to having money,not ironicly using public transportation and not being heterosexual. If I saw someone wearing that pretentious garbage I would involuntarily scoff.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:I really want to know what kinds of families Goons grew up in where brothers and sisters bickering and teasing each other (while still helping each other out in the end, however begrudgingly) is an outrageous sign of weakness and the measure of a parent is how much of a death-grip they have on their childrens' behavior. Like, even the most No one has said the fact the sons were acting like jackasses makes her a bad parent, her REACTION to it makes her parenting skills questionable. Kids can be arseholes, but the answer is not to make a kickstarter on one child's behalf where you attack and belittle the others. Publicly ridiculing your sons doesn't help your daughter, and it certainly doesn't help your sons or the family dynamic as a whole.
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smg77 posted:I was surprised to see they are based in Cincinnati...I was sure they would be from Seattle or Portland. I'm surprised they aren't from Austin, TX. Fatkraken posted:No one has said the fact the sons were acting like jackasses makes her a bad parent, her REACTION to it makes her parenting skills questionable. Kids can be arseholes, but the answer is not to make a kickstarter on one child's behalf where you attack and belittle the others. Publicly ridiculing your sons doesn't help your daughter, and it certainly doesn't help your sons or the family dynamic as a whole. evilcrusher2 has a new favorite as of 00:33 on Mar 26, 2013 |
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Actually teaching kids to make games on a Raspberry Pi in BASIC teaches them nothing that's actually useful to how games are made today. Using someone else's pre-packaged game engine is how most game programming works, and RPG maker would be closer to that. I mean seriously your proposal teaches kids at best how programming used to be done, it doesn't even hint on object oriented or functional programming paradigms. It's straight up 70s imperative design. And the Raspberry Pi has bizarre constraints on what you can do that aren't useful to learning how to program on real world computers. Plus kids SUCK at making text adventure parsers. It's just a fact. Teaching them Inform (the programming language) would be way more useful
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Fatkraken posted:No one has said the fact the sons were acting like jackasses makes her a bad parent, her REACTION to it makes her parenting skills questionable. Kids can be arseholes, but the answer is not to make a kickstarter on one child's behalf where you attack and belittle the others. Publicly ridiculing your sons doesn't help your daughter, and it certainly doesn't help your sons or the family dynamic as a whole. Yeah. Taking one kid's side and publicly berating the other two is probably the best way I can think of to ensure that girl is going to get rabbit punched every day for the next year.
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Nnep posted:I would have thought this was a joke if i didn't know better Alternate solutions: Pick up some grass and throw it. Lick your goddamn finger. FEEL THE loving WIND.
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Ernutetnoiraud posted:Call me stupid, but this just sounds like a parent being... well, a parent. The daughter probably came up with the ridiculous idea to go to camp, the mother being semi-intelligent shot it down and asked the daughter to read documentation herself, the brothers laughed at it, the daughter complained, the mother said she will help her daughter but if only the daughter can pay her back, and they turned to kickstarter for free money while teaching the daughter how to market herself (currently, the ideal would be as a victim). Once the kickstarter blew up, the mother spammed celebrities saying "look at how cool my daughter is" to both bolster her own reputation and get her daughter whatever bonuses she can. Some millionaire has gotten over twice my yearly income by belittling her own children, I think I get to be a little pissed at her manipulative bullshit.
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Waffleman_ posted:Alternate solutions: Pick up some grass and throw it. Lick your goddamn finger. FEEL THE loving WIND. None of which accomplish the function of an anemometer, which is to tell you the speed of the wind. Still, this thing is stupid.
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Jedit posted:None of which accomplish the function of an anemometer, which is to tell you the speed of the wind. I know nothing about wind meters, why is this stupid?
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Crashbee posted:I know nothing about wind meters, why is this stupid? It attaches to an iPhone.
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Crashbee posted:I know nothing about wind meters, why is this stupid? Having the windspeed on the ground where you are standing isn't very helpful for 90% of the activities they listed it could be used for.
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Has every iphone dongle been invented yet and gone straight to the back storage room of big lots or do we still have a few years left?
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Crashbee posted:I know nothing about wind meters, why is this stupid? If you're holding it in your hand, you're likely to not hold it stable which would interfere with the wind speed measuring, or stand i such a way as to reduce the wind.
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Hobohemian posted:Having the windspeed on the ground where you are standing isn't very helpful for 90% of the activities they listed it could be used for. I dunno, I looked up some extant handheld anemometers and there's a bunch of them all saying they can be used for the exact same things, so apparently there's a market for them.
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Ernutetnoiraud posted:But, you'd also have to convince me that a 9-year-old is capable of stirring that much encouragement for people to follow suit. Whether of not is was orchestrated by the mother? We know it is posted by her, cause then yet again its breaking the rules of having to be 18 to post on Kickstarter and the daughter is 9. Either the girl posted it or her mother posted it. Either way, its wrong in the end. She did admit her daughter is in public school too on the kickstarter page. Looking at this Kickstarter, this is what I honestly saw: I have lots of money and can break the rules when I want, and I will teach my daughter that it's okay to break the rules when you have the money to do so. Who will really challenge me, when I have money and power cause otherwise I will ruin your name? Another question would be, Does the end justify the means? The mom wants the girl to go to camp on money she learned how to earn on her own, but she can't do it that quickly on her own without outside help at her age and her brothers treating her like garbage (according to the mother). Does the means of breaking kickstarter's rules justify that? http://i.imgur.com/zwyRWCa.jpg isn't going to help me believe the mother is not a manipulative mofo.
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Crashbee posted:I dunno, I looked up some extant handheld anemometers and there's a bunch of them all saying they can be used for the exact same things, so apparently there's a market for them. They don't only use them for external "winds", they also use them to measure for internal areas which need, for example, a certain amount of air extract etc. So basically it doesn't matter for measuring airspeed, because the handheld ones aren't necessarily designed for that.
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You guys are interpreting this wrong. It's not for measuring wind speed, it's for using the hot air produced by smartphone blowhards to power their dumb phones.
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Noni posted:You guys are interpreting this wrong. It's not for measuring wind speed, it's for using the hot air produced by smartphone blowhards to power their dumb phones. So they finally invented a perpetual motion device that works?
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 Kickstarter Confirms they won't be pulling the project:quote:Justin Kazmark: Kickstarter is a funding platform for creative projects. The goal of this project is to create a video game, which backers are offered for a $10 pledge. On Kickstarter backers ultimately decide the validity and worthiness of a project by whether they decide to fund it. Source is this lovely, lovely CNET article
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Rime posted:
No kidding about that article. "Hey guys, take a look at all these TROLLS! Did you see these TROLLS picking on this lady? In fact, there were multiple types of TROLLS! Is that enough Internet lingo to chart high on Google?"
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JGBeagle posted:So when no game is produced, what then? They'll do the same as happens with other Kickstarters that don't produce: exactly nothing.
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Rime posted:
Good. This product is a lovely scam but Kickstarter acting as some sort of arbiter of taste and worthiness will do nothing but hurt the crowdfunding model and drive people to less scrupulous sites.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Good. This product is a lovely scam but Kickstarter acting as some sort of arbiter of taste and worthiness will do nothing but hurt the crowdfunding model and drive people to less scrupulous sites. Yeah except that it clearly violated their ToS, so right now they look like a bunch of morons. It has nothing to do with taste so much as, I don't know, obeying their own loving rules. They put them in place after all. I'd rather see idiots like this woman going to less scrupulous sites so that intelligent enough people will know not to back them. I like Indiegogo because I can see if its flexible funding, and know to avoid it like the plague.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Good. This product is a lovely scam but Kickstarter acting as some sort of arbiter of taste and worthiness will do nothing but hurt the crowdfunding model and drive people to less scrupulous sites. Yes, Kickstarter shouldn't enforce it's own rules, and not response to scams because something something free market? They do need to have some kind of monitoring, crowdfunding is still relatively new. If it can't keep basic standards up, will it have a future, or will it be full of 419 scams soon?
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Obese FYAD Reject posted:No kidding about that article. "Hey guys, take a look at all these TROLLS! Did you see these TROLLS picking on this lady? In fact, there were multiple types of TROLLS! Is that enough Internet lingo to chart high on Google?" It's weird to think that we've hit the point on the internet where people are so out of touch with what trolling is that they're just associating it with every bad thing anyone ever does on the internet. At any rate, this seems like a definite "jump the shark" moment for Kickstarter. If they've decided they're just gonna pick and choose which of their own rules to enforce, they're just gonna open it up to anyone who wants to buy anything and not particularly feel like paying for it.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:I really want to know what kinds of families Goons grew up in where brothers and sisters bickering and teasing each other (while still helping each other out in the end, however begrudgingly) is an outrageous sign of weakness and the measure of a parent is how much of a death-grip they have on their childrens' behavior. Like, even the most Exactly! And to prove it I, George Bluth Sr, entrepreneur extraordinaire, plan to Kickstart my new line of Boyfights videos! 
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I backed Anita S.'s right to have her project, and I do think this is bullshit for the most part. If people want to contribute, fine, but so many of them plug their ears, close their eyes and scream "lalala haters gonna hate" because they want to see a unique snowflake's dream's come true  I agree with YKS' stance that it's unfortunate everytime a woman happens to be involved with a poo poo KS there's going to be death/rape threats and thus it's difficult for constructive criticism to get a word in edgewise when everyone takes some idealogical stance rather than "is this a good idea"
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