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BIG HORNY COW posted:Have there been any other videos of rebels using self propelled artillery? Thats this right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2S1_Gvodzika
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Saint Celestine posted:Thats this right? Yeah its a 2S1. Looks like Syria has a few hundred of them.
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BIG HORNY COW posted:Have there been any other videos of rebels using self propelled artillery? Just a handful, it seems like a recent thing.
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dinoputz posted:I heard a story about this guy on NPR as "Egypt's Daily Show," and it sounded absolutely amazing. Are there any clips subtitled in English? Especially the ones where he talks to prominent Arab-Americans. This is something I'd love to see. The arab-american show is different from "Al-Bernameg", it's on our equivalent of cable so it might not be easy to find on youtube subtitled. http://www.osn.com/topseries/america-bel-arabi/default_en_gb.aspx
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:The arab-american show is different from "Al-Bernameg", it's on our equivalent of cable so it might not be easy to find on youtube subtitled. Al-Bernameg is pretty interesting. I couldn't find the episode in question with subtitles, but I did watch a little bit of an episode talking about protests in the square. They were showing a guy who was talking about how the media was portraying the original protests against Mubarak dishonestly. The protesters were drug addicts and awful people, only a handful, etc etc. Then they went on to bring up protests in Tahrir, I'm assuming the ones that sprung up when Morsi's power grab legislation was in the news, and the same guy went on a rant about how the protesters were drug addicts and awful people. It really does feel exactly like an Egyptian daily show. I'll have to keep up with the subtitled episodes, assuming they don't shut his rear end down or throw him in a cell for years. Edit: Here's a playlist of 5 episodes with English subs. I think the guy stopped updating the list though. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhk9E89pmimnd2_epwW7AkSASkU268wIi Volkerball fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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A Morsi classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anrwosRPdDk
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Apr 2, 2013 14:56
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Brown Moses posted:Just a handful, it seems like a recent thing. They're using it with pretty sound tactics too. Using the building on their right to obstruct LOS and as cover.
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Apr 2, 2013 15:28
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Another example of the importance of infantry support for tanks from Syria https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoFRXks2X68&t=120s
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Apr 2, 2013 20:09
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Brown Moses posted:Another example of the importance of infantry support for tanks from Syria Holy poo poo, at like 2:00, does he run up and shove a grenade into the barrel of an enemy tank?
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Saint Celestine posted:Holy poo poo, at like 2:00, does he run up and shove a grenade into the barrel of an enemy tank? Yes, you can just make out his arm reaching up and shoving it in.
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Brown Moses posted:Another example of the importance of infantry support for tanks from Syria Holy crap! I guess they're bunkered down and don't have eyes on anything around them? It reminds me of that Band of Brothers episode, "The impressive thing wasn't when Lt. Spears made it over the wall...it was when he ran BACK."
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Brown Moses posted:Yes, you can just make out his arm reaching up and shoving it in. The balls on that guy. Quite amazing. I assume there was a round loaded and the grenade set it off, which set off the ammo? Would that blow through a closed breech?
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But there's also a guy putting a grenade down the same barrel at 1:23. At no point does there appear to be any resemblance of activity coming from the tank. Seems empty to me. I mean, they're even carrying RPG's with them. If they could fire at it from the rear aspect, why take any risk unless they knew it was abandoned?
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^^^ Yeah I was wondering if that was a grenade or the tank.. hard to tell, seemed like the tank shell firing though because of the recoil that wobbles the tank back. On his first attempt was that the tank firing on its own at something? I guess it's hard to comprehend how buttoned up those guys are, you don't get a lot to look at through the viewer blocks.
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I thought that was the tank firing at 1:23. The entire tank rocks back, so I assume its from the gun's recoil, not a grenade.
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Nenonen posted:But there's also a guy putting a grenade down the same barrel at 1:23. At no point does there appear to be any resemblance of activity coming from the tank. Seems empty to me. If they knew it was abandoned though, why not just climb on and capture it ? It had to have been live. \/ I dunno, I assume they're relying on poorly trained conscripts by now, and I assume they cant see poo poo. Saint Celestine fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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Saint Celestine posted:I thought that was the tank firing at 1:23. I think the gun was loaded, so the first grenade would have triggered that shell. Or the hand grenade could have produced a sufficient explosion and the gases venting through the barrel causing the rocking. I don't know how a T-72 breech works in a situation like this. But if the tank was manned I would think something more would happen than the tank firing once, then just... waiting. Saint Celestine posted:If they knew it was abandoned though, why not just climb on and capture it ? Maybe they wanted to destroy it so it couldn't be taken back by the enemy (capturing a tank requires you knowing how to at least drive it to safety), maybe it wasn't usable so they took some practise at it and/or wanted to film some inspiring propaganda? Nenonen fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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Another good example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHFPeXlH5xQ&t=21s
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Nenonen posted:I think the gun was loaded, so the first grenade would have triggered that shell. Or the hand grenade could have produced a sufficient explosion and the gases venting through the barrel causing the rocking. If it's anything like a Rheinmetall gun breech (like the one in the Leopard 2), the round that went off would have opened the breech, awaiting reload. I have no idea how Russian autoloaders work either, though I suppose it might not be that different, except it's a machine shoving the ammo into the gun rather than a person.
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Nenonen posted:But there's also a guy putting a grenade down the same barrel at 1:23. At no point does there appear to be any resemblance of activity coming from the tank. Seems empty to me. It's the same guy actually. He must've done something really messed up to be sent as the grenade boy twice.
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The first grenade set to off the loaded round and cleared thr breech. It could have been something like a sabot so there was nothing explosive in there but the propellant. That probably forced open the breech so a second grenade could roll down into the magazine. They were probably hoping the first one would blow up the barrel all looney tunes style and they wouldnt have to gently caress around opening a potentially booby-trapped hatch to destroy the thing
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I'll take back what I said earlier about this not being the MB's fault. From their twitterquote:#FJP:We also reaffirm our respect to freedom of expression & criticizing those at the executive helm & Prez within boundaries of law & const
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John Stewarts bit on the Bassem Youssef arrest last night was fantastic. Heres a link to the episode: http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/mon-april-1-2013-mary-roach It starts right from the beginning. Also the US embassy tweeted a link to the show and got in some hot water with the Egyptian government. http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/02/17573785-us-embassys-jon-stewart-tweet-sparks-criticism-from-egypts-president?lite
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@LibyaLiberty posted this link to her website: http://libyaliberty.tumblr.com/ Which I really got a kick out of, I think maybe you guys would too.
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New tank footage from Assad's forces made by ANNA news channel (at least I think it's new?). Darayya (Damascus) again. This time with subtitles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4N6xiLGQkA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0BmSEhYQ_A Part 2 includes an interview with a tank commander. It also includes an attack by rebel forces viewed from both perspectives. Pieter Pan fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Apr 3, 2013 |
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It's back, but this was a dumb move by the ambassador http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/04/03/embassy_cairo_shuts_down_twitter_feed_after_muslim_brotherhood_spat quote:The U.S. Embassy in Cairo shut down its Twitter feed Wednesday following a public fight with the Egyptian Presidency and the Muslim Brotherhood over the arrest of an Egyptian television star.
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Brown Moses posted:Another good example That's crazy, but it looks like the explosion is actually from a vehicle to the right of the tank (It's left) Edit: also a lot of people behind it.
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How common are M4/M16 rifles carried by rebel forces? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g91caxdfMjw
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Jordan, Turkey, and Lebanon all have M16/M4 pattern rifles in their armed forces, so it's not inconceivable that lost, stolen or smuggled rifles would eventually end up in Syria. You probably see more AK variants because 7.62 x 39mm is much more common in Syria than 5.56 x 45mm.
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suboptimal posted:Jordan, Turkey, and Lebanon all have M16/M4 pattern rifles in their armed forces, so it's not inconceivable that lost, stolen or smuggled rifles would eventually end up in Syria. You probably see more AK variants because 7.62 x 39mm is much more common in Syria than 5.56 x 45mm. AK's are way more prevalent in the ME anyways. Little kids in gun markets make them by hand.
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suboptimal posted:Jordan, Turkey, and Lebanon all have M16/M4 pattern rifles in their armed forces, so it's not inconceivable that lost, stolen or smuggled rifles would eventually end up in Syria. Also Iraq. And all it takes is money to get an AR15. We've seen a lot of rebels sporting gear that looks like it came out of "Tactical" type mail order catalogs catering to the American market, so buying rifles that cater to the same doesn't seem impossible. Best Friends fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Apr 3, 2013 |
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Best Friends posted:Also Iraq. For every one of those guys, there was ten carrying bullets in ziploc bags. The majority of weapons being passed around are hand-me-downs from other conflicts, few of which had a significant amount of Western weapons floating around. The U.S. has just put a $5mil bounty on Joseph Kony. 
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Brown Moses posted:Another example of the importance of infantry support for tanks from Syria Holy poo poo. It seems there were no crew in that tank, but it's still quite a video.
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Silky Thighs posted:How common are M4/M16 rifles carried by rebel forces? I think there are a lot of M16s and M16 knockoffs (Chinese made) floating around in Lebanon. The Lebanese military uses them. And there is a large portion of the Lebanese population that is sympathetic to the Syrian rebels so maybe thats how they get these weapons...
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Here's an opposition ambush that starts with the use of multiple chained IEDs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2hkaERcHmY
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Brown Moses posted:Here's an opposition ambush that starts with the use of multiple chained IEDs I felt a little bad for the guy who got out of the minivan at just before 0:40, definitely dead but it was probably quick.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EImExWTASc Wish i could see the look on his face 
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Pieter posted:New tank footage from Assad's forces made by ANNA news channel (at least I think it's new?). The dashcam tank videos have shown how much their tank tactics have changed. It seems the Russians are teaching them how to use armor effectively in urban environments. You see them moving behind smoke with infantry scurrying around, and attacking the bottom of tower blocks to flush out rebels in the tops.
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Invalido posted:If it's anything like a Rheinmetall gun breech (like the one in the Leopard 2), the round that went off would have opened the breech, awaiting reload. I have no idea how Russian autoloaders work either, though I suppose it might not be that different, except it's a machine shoving the ammo into the gun rather than a person. In the T-72 autoloader the gunner must press a button to load the next round/extract the stub from the previously fired round. Without any interaction the breech remains closed after a shot. If the breech was open for the second grenade that means either the breech was forced open by the explosion (unlikely) or somebody hit the button to load the next round, causing the autoloader to open the breech.
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