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Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Nephilm posted:

Isn't Dante always show with the mask?
No, his face is shown in the old Bloodquest comics.

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The Southern Dandy
Jun 15, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT MY RADLEY-WALTERS' MEDAL

Is that medal for being the most intolerable poster in a thread about Warhammer 40.000 novels? Because if it is, you sure blew the competition out of the water, son.
Just finished Blood of Asaheim. Overall I liked it, although I got a bit irritated with the seemingly endless exposition and introspection. There's a somewhat fine line between brooding internal monologues and bolter porn, and BoA erred on the side of brooding for me. It's the loving Space Wolves dammit; don't start sperging about why Ingvar harbors doubts just as you're about to launch into a slaughter!

The Southern Dandy fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Mar 27, 2013

Shroud
May 11, 2009

The Rat posted:

Just finished Death of Antagonis. It was basically bolter porn about a schism that happens in a company of an unknown chapter that has some weird mutations. I started it expecting it to be bad like Soul Drinkers, but it was surprisingly okay, and decently written. It's not on the level of Abnett/ADB, but still a cut above your average bolter porn. It was decent enough that I'm moderately curious to read some other stuff from the same author.

If you don't have much reading time you can skip it. If you're at a dearth for 40k novels and have already read everything Abnett/ADB have put out, it's all right.

It's about the Black Dragon chapter. Relatively (in)famous for the mutations you're talking about. I think this is the first time the fluff has done anything with their inner workings/feelings/traditions. Usually it's just a mention of their mutation.

MisterFuzzles
Dec 5, 2009

We can't go back no more, but I suppose we can go wherever we please.
From ADBs Facebook

quote:

This book is about the founding of the Black Legion. My next one is about the Emperor and Terra. No pressure, then.

Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

Fallen Rib
ADB owns

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...
Finally got around to finishing Angel Exterminatus. It's definitely "good" McNeill, though Fulgrim was a bit too Snidely Whiplash-y for my taste and all the Storm of Iron tie-ins at the end felt really forced. It did really make me want to see what happens next with Perturabo.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord
I wonder if BL is going to do an April Fools day prank today. They really got me good with the Sister of Silence audiobook last year.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Improbable Lobster posted:

I wonder if BL is going to do an April Fools day prank today. They really got me good with the Sister of Silence audiobook last year.

They already did it, it's their ebook pricing scheme (because it is a joke).

Shroud
May 11, 2009
Their pricing for the prose version of their audio books is another abomination. $30 for 6 stories, not even ebooks.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



I've finished:

Ravenor - which was pretty good, but not quite on Eisenhorn levels. A lot more predictable as well.

Edit - Part of it may have been landing on a particular thread discussion page when reporting my impressions of Eisenhorn.

Pariah - which had a lot of potential, bu turned out to be quite plodding. It seems as though future action will either have to be confined to this particular planet and involve the Scolae fellows, or waste a shitload of exposition.

15 Hours - decent enough for what it is (All is Quiet on the Western Front IN SPACE) but... you know, I could just directly to Remarque. There's a full collection on my shelf and everything.

Dark Heresy - Apparently it's pretty hard to write outright bad Inquisition stuff, and Sandy doesn't even succumb to his habit of repeating himself (much). Shame there are only two books in the series atm.

Space Hulk the Novel - I was kinda hoping for a comic about the Hulk smashing Space Marines. What I got instead:

"There was intelligence in Auletio's eyes... It was something Lorenzo had never seen in the eyes of another Space Marine." Also, it turns out that Space Marines are a bit like dogs in that they can't shoot up.

Pretty much everything else I've got atm is Space Marine / Imperial Guard stuff. Any of it really exceptionally good? (Besides Gaunt's Ghosts)

The Rat
Aug 29, 2004

You will find no one to help you here. Beth DuClare has been dissected and placed in cryonic storage.

Mechafunkzilla posted:

Finally got around to finishing Angel Exterminatus. It's definitely "good" McNeill, though Fulgrim was a bit too Snidely Whiplash-y for my taste and all the Storm of Iron tie-ins at the end felt really forced. It did really make me want to see what happens next with Perturabo.

Totally agree. Having a subtle tie-in, like a character here or there that shows up in a later series, can be cool. Having every single protagonist be someone who shows up in Storm of Iron is contrived as hell.

Nephilm
Jun 11, 2009

by Lowtax

Xander77 posted:

Pretty much everything else I've got atm is Space Marine / Imperial Guard stuff. Any of it really exceptionally good? (Besides Gaunt's Ghosts)

Stuff by Abnett (HH mainly) and ADB (all of it, always, for all time). Notable mention to Chris Wraight's Battle of the Fang and specially Wrath of Iron.

Shadowhand00
Jan 23, 2006

Golden Bear is ever watching; day by day he prowls, and when he hears the tread of lowly Stanfurd red,from his Lair he fiercely growls.
Toilet Rascal

Nephilm posted:

Stuff by Abnett (HH mainly) and ADB (all of it, always, for all time). Notable mention to Chris Wraight's Battle of the Fang and specially Wrath of Iron.

Just finished Battle of the Fang. I really enjoyed it and almost makes Bjorn a tragic figure in some ways, never to get the rest he deserves and feeling abandoned by his daddy.

Nephilm
Jun 11, 2009

by Lowtax
It doesn't almost: Bjorn is a tragic figure through and through. While all the great heroes of his time left or passed on, his lot was to stay behind and play caretaker to an empire that sees him and the world he comes from as a misenterpreted myth. And each time he awakes he finds it crumbling more and more around the edges.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
I guess I'm sort of behind on everything but I just finished "The Lost" Ghosts omnibus last night. Good lord. That was some intense stuff.

Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

Fallen Rib
I'm reading Battle of the Fang right now and it owns. All the space wolves/fenris people rule, even the people who get like 3 pages like the defense orbital commander who releases the escape pods into the path of the incoming enemy ships to gently caress them one last time.

Shadowhand00
Jan 23, 2006

Golden Bear is ever watching; day by day he prowls, and when he hears the tread of lowly Stanfurd red,from his Lair he fiercely growls.
Toilet Rascal

Nephilm posted:

It doesn't almost: Bjorn is a tragic figure through and through. While all the great heroes of his time left or passed on, his lot was to stay behind and play caretaker to an empire that sees him and the world he comes from as a misenterpreted myth. And each time he awakes he finds it crumbling more and more around the edges.

Which is why the 1d4chan story is so nice. Bjorn finally just gets to tear poo poo up, even if he's stolen by the Blood Ravens. :3:

turn it up TURN ME ON
Mar 19, 2012

In the Grim Darkness of the Future, there is only war.

...and delicious ice cream.
I finished Know No Fear last night and started on Battle of the Fang thanks to this thread: Know No Fear was great. I loved the personification of the Ultramarines. They are a lot more interesting than I first thought they'd be. I'm sad I don't know of any other stories with them in them that are well written.

Battle of the Fang... is this going to turn into some weird furry erotica? I honestly can't tell yet, although I'm only a few pages in.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

SquadronROE posted:

I finished Know No Fear last night and started on Battle of the Fang thanks to this thread: Know No Fear was great. I loved the personification of the Ultramarines. They are a lot more interesting than I first thought they'd be. I'm sad I don't know of any other stories with them in them that are well written.

Know No Fear is pretty much the first time the Ultramarines have been presented in an interesting way. I hope they become Abnett's territory now rather than Graham McNeill's.

Nephilm
Jun 11, 2009

by Lowtax

SquadronROE posted:

I finished Know No Fear last night and started on Battle of the Fang thanks to this thread: Know No Fear was great. I loved the personification of the Ultramarines. They are a lot more interesting than I first thought they'd be. I'm sad I don't know of any other stories with them in them that are well written.

Battle of the Fang... is this going to turn into some weird furry erotica? I honestly can't tell yet, although I'm only a few pages in.

Nah, it's just that one guy. And he's actually pretty cool.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003
So this was a depressing email I received from The Black Library today:


"You like Tau, right? Buy the new Codex!"
Oh, yeah - we've got an actual book, too...

Looks like BL is one step closer to being less of an independent arm of GW. Sigh.

a shitty king
Mar 26, 2010

Mechafunkzilla posted:

Finally got around to finishing Angel Exterminatus. It's definitely "good" McNeill, though Fulgrim was a bit too Snidely Whiplash-y for my taste and all the Storm of Iron tie-ins at the end felt really forced. It did really make me want to see what happens next with Perturabo.

That's pretty much exactly what I thought of it too. Which was a shame since I enjoyed the Iron Warrior's characters in this, and I enjoyed them in Storm of Iron, but when one character is mildly tempted by a daemon, then he's the Warsmith! I thought that was pretty lame. I did surprisingly enjoy the Raven Guard and Iron Hands that show up in it, as well as one of the first Salamander characters in the series (the novels, that is.)

EyeRChris
Mar 3, 2010

Intergalactic, all-planetary, everything super-supreme champion

SquadronROE posted:

I finished Know No Fear last night and started on Battle of the Fang thanks to this thread: Know No Fear was great. I loved the personification of the Ultramarines. They are a lot more interesting than I first thought they'd be. I'm sad I don't know of any other stories with them in them that are well written.

Battle of the Fang... is this going to turn into some weird furry erotica? I honestly can't tell yet, although I'm only a few pages in.

Battle of Fang is like injecting bull shark testosterone directly into your scrotum. It turns girls into boys and boys into men.

Arbite
Nov 4, 2009





Just finished 'The Greater Good.'

Pretty good, but it doesn't explore the central premise as much as I would have liked. It does all come together nicely on the last page though.

The only big criticism I have is that the footnotes tend to repeat themselves over and over. Here's to hoping the next trilogy's the best one yet.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Arbite posted:

Just finished 'The Greater Good.'

Pretty good, but it doesn't explore the central premise as much as I would have liked. It does all come together nicely on the last page though.
That book made me give up on any future Caine exploits. I literally put it down to go "Are you making GBS threads me? loving tyranids and gene-stealers again?" It really felt as though the author was mocking me, knowing fully well how dreadfully tired the alternating orc/tyranid/orc/tyranid/orc AND tyranid stories were... only to go "Psych! gently caress you, have some more of the same poo poo!"

I almost didn't read the Heretic series because of that (glad I did though, that was pretty good)

Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

Fallen Rib

Xander77 posted:

I almost didn't read the Heretic series because of that (glad I did though, that was pretty good)

Whats the heretic series?

edit: Ah the dark heresy tie ins, didnt realize he wrote them! I should read them then

Jerkface fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Apr 7, 2013

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Xander77 posted:

That book made me give up on any future Caine exploits. I literally put it down to go "Are you making GBS threads me? loving tyranids and gene-stealers again?" It really felt as though the author was mocking me, knowing fully well how dreadfully tired the alternating orc/tyranid/orc/tyranid/orc AND tyranid stories were... only to go "Psych! gently caress you, have some more of the same poo poo!"

I almost didn't read the Heretic series because of that (glad I did though, that was pretty good)
You're forgetting about the time that it was Necrons, or Orks AND Necrons.

Kegslayer
Jul 23, 2007

Xander77 posted:

That book made me give up on any future Caine exploits. I literally put it down to go "Are you making GBS threads me? loving tyranids and gene-stealers again?" It really felt as though the author was mocking me, knowing fully well how dreadfully tired the alternating orc/tyranid/orc/tyranid/orc AND tyranid stories were... only to go "Psych! gently caress you, have some more of the same poo poo!"

I almost didn't read the Heretic series because of that (glad I did though, that was pretty good)

I don't know why you're surprised since the only thing Cain hasn't fought are Imperials and Eldar. From a fluff perspective, the area is under attack by Orcs and the odd splinter fleet.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Kegslayer posted:

I don't know why you're surprised since the only thing Cain hasn't fought are Imperials and Eldar. From a fluff perspective, the area is under attack by Orcs and the odd splinter fleet.
He actually fought both, and the one book focusing on his fight against renegade imperials lead by Space Hitler was probably the best in the series.

I wouldn't necessarily say that certain factions are more fun than others (though I've yet to read anything that makes the Tyranids interesting) by Sandy really can't write an interesting / scary Tyranid/Orc encounter to save his life. (Oh yeah, now that the above comment mentions it, the Necron book was legit tense and intimidating)

Edit - "Caine actually fought a whole bunch of stuff" seems to be a point in agreement with "then why are all the books focused on two particularly boring factions", rather than an argument against it.

Xander77 fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Apr 8, 2013

Lily Catts
Oct 17, 2012

Show me the way to you
(Heavy Metal)
I've not finished the second Cain omnibus (the first one, Death or Glory isn't all too interesting), but I liked The Traitor's Hand most out of the first one because Chaos is the most interesting faction to fight. Maybe they should have Cain keep fighting them forever while shrugging off corruption.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
The problem is, he was established as an Inquisitorial Acolyte for the Ordo Xenos on day 1, so it's kind of hard to shift tack after that.

Lincoln`s Wax
May 1, 2000
My other, other car is a centipede filled with vaginas.
Wanna hear about his time with the Dark Eldar. Mainly so he can recall the time he found a wych alluring but was all-together put off by the fact that her suit was mostly strips of human leather and knives.

EyeRChris
Mar 3, 2010

Intergalactic, all-planetary, everything super-supreme champion
My problem with the Greater Good is, despite the Fire warrior on the cover we didn't get any Imperial / Tau back to the wall cooperation. I kinda wanted to see Imperial and Tau working together :(

Mazed
Oct 23, 2010

:blizz:


berzerkmonkey posted:

"You like Tau, right? Buy the new Codex!"
Oh, yeah - we've got an actual book, too...

Looks like BL is one step closer to being less of an independent arm of GW. Sigh.

A more proper ad for the Corax story showed up more recently, at least:



May I just say that the look they've chosen to go with for Corax's hairstyle is just...so...luxuriant. ;-*

I'm about halfway through "Fear to Tread" now, speaking of Horus Heresy. I was enjoying the part where they were exploring the iced-over city, finding it entertainingly creepy, but what actually ends up happening there (the wreckage comes alive and tries to eat them) was just so goofy as hell. And the Blood Angels are such fuckin' boyscouts.

The biggest weakness this whole series has is that, on the whole, the traitor legions are about ten times more interesting than the loyalists, and always will be. They're paradoxically the most balanced perspective at the same time as being the most exposed to 40k's gnarliest :catdrugs:.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang

EyeRChris posted:

My problem with the Greater Good is, despite the Fire warrior on the cover we didn't get any Imperial / Tau back to the wall cooperation. I kinda wanted to see Imperial and Tau working together :(

Fire Warrior. It's out of print now, but it has what you want. I've just read it and, overall, it is really solid.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Rapey Joe Stalin posted:

Fire Warrior. It's out of print now, but it has what you want. I've just read it and, overall, it is really solid.

I read Fire Warrior when I was much younger so I might be a little off, but it's one of the few books that really conveys just how "chaotic" Chaos is. Its really well done, especially for something written when there wasn't much depth to the Tau and 40K fiction as a whole back then.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...
Fire Warrior is awesome for the way it plays with the concept of being a video game novelization.

Lily Catts
Oct 17, 2012

Show me the way to you
(Heavy Metal)
Fire Warrior is in ebook form. Maybe I'll go check it out, since I loved Lord of the Night (same author).

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang

Schneider Heim posted:

Fire Warrior is in ebook form. Maybe I'll go check it out, since I loved Lord of the Night (same author).

Do you have a link? I couldn't find it on the BL site, would love to have my own copy.

Spurrier was really solid in both books, it's a shame he doesn't seem to have done much, if anything, more for B.

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Dodoman
Feb 26, 2009



A moment of laxity
A lifetime of regret
Lipstick Apathy

Rapey Joe Stalin posted:

Do you have a link? I couldn't find it on the BL site, would love to have my own copy.

Spurrier was really solid in both books, it's a shame he doesn't seem to have done much, if anything, more for B.

Here you go
http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/fire-warrior-ebook.html

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