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Opinion Haver
Apr 9, 2007

Suspicious Dish posted:

of course they do

how?

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abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:
http://emberscript.com/



aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

magic

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost

Hard NOP Life posted:

:suicide: I never wanted to remember this poo poo again

I envy you if a slightly blunt aspect of the type system that gets wavy-underlined the moment you type it into your IDE as opposed to exploding in an undebuggable way at the most inopportune time possible is one of the worst language gotchas you've ever had to deal with

go wrangle some "creative" multithreaded c++ and get some perspective

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

yeah i'd kill for some good types instead of just loving DWORDs everywhere

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

PC LOAD LETTER

What da fuck does that mean

Fun Shoe

Mr Dog posted:

go wrangle some "creative" multithreaded c++ and get some perspective
Why do you wish me harm?

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer

abraham linksys posted:

http://emberscript.com/



aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



oh look, a syntax/style error in the generated code on their drat website. this bodes well.

jony neuemonic
Nov 13, 2009

abraham linksys posted:

http://emberscript.com/



aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

i will always go to bat for coffeescript but this is just going too damned far

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx
eh gently caress it

if you've decided to forego a sensible amount of tool and debugger support, might as well go all the way down the rabbit hole

double sulk
Jul 2, 2010

javascript is the center of a tootsie pop

shrughes
Oct 11, 2008

(call/cc call/cc)

HappyHippo posted:

they made some stupid decisions though. for example:

C# code:
byte x = 1, y = 2, z;
z = x + y;
is an error, because the type of (byte) + (byte) is an int for some reason. so you have to cast it back to a byte. i think the same is true of int16s. this results in a lot of bullshit casts all over the place.

What the gently caress are you adding bytes together for? Bytes exist to be copied in batches, no other reason. Use a goddamned int.

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



i like scala. probably because i can write java in scala and it'l work, then step back for a minute and rewrite it to be more functional. otoh there are a billion collections interfaces. literally a billion, i counted

it's like writing c# but you get to be on the jvm, best of everything a+++ would program in again

MeruFM
Jul 27, 2010
i don't see how C# over jvm is at all good

FamDav
Mar 29, 2008
i wrote a make script today that replaces lines in flex output because it cannot compile with -pedantic. thanks flex.

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



MeruFM posted:

i don't see how C# over jvm is at all good

the nicest language with the best libraries

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

doing a coursera course on scala right now, taught by that guy morton ordorfsky or whatever his name is. it seems pretty loving neato

Squinty Applebottom
Jan 1, 2013

Nomnom Cookie posted:

the nicest language with the best libraries

best dev environment

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
sun really hosed up when they kicked Microsoft out of java

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Shaggar posted:

sun really hosed up when they kicked Microsoft out of java

but they made their own java

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
yeah but if they had stayed in it we'd have a single java that would combine the best of both worlds.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
you get the beeeeeeeeeeeeest of both jits
run java take it slow
then clr rocks out the show
you get the beeeeeeeeeeeeest of both jits

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
hey, i just met you
and this is crazy
but here's my method
so call me maybe

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
oppan p/invoke style

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

port scala to the clr, problem solved

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

or the cli or whatever idfk. i'm not privileged enough to work in .net

Sang-
Nov 2, 2007

Nomnom Cookie posted:

i like scala. probably because i can write java in scala and it'l work, then step back for a minute and rewrite it to be more functional. otoh there are a billion collections interfaces. literally a billion, i counted

it's like writing c# but you get to be on the jvm, best of everything a+++ would program in again

there's literally 112 class files for Function2. Thats a single Scala file exploding to be 112 bytecode classes.

scala gives no fucks and it owns

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx
MS java was full of all sorts of windows specific extensions iirc

so in short no, MS being kicked out of java was best for all concerned

tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->

Suspicious Dish posted:

hey, i just met you
and this is crazy
but here's my method
so call me maybe

hey i just called you,
and this is crazy
you're in a method
i'll collect you maybe

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Internaut! posted:

MS java was full of all sorts of windows specific extensions iirc

so in short no, MS being kicked out of java was best for all concerned

lucky sun managed to wield the law to make javas write-once-run-anywhere for gui clients the glorious reality it now is

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

just imagine the horrors of a world without awt~~

Share Bear
Apr 27, 2004

i started one of those scala coursera things to learn about fp-langs and it asks a question on a quiz which requires knowing how 64 bit doubles count numbers with high exponents

yes, that was why i to watch these academic tubes and install scala, to rehash java primitive details?

Share Bear
Apr 27, 2004

i should just read monocqcs book or SICP

Opinion Haver
Apr 9, 2007

tef posted:

hey i just called you,
and this is crazy
you're in a method
i'll collect you maybe

don't use exceptions
control flow's crazy
so use an option
(in haskell: maybe)

i also saw one based around int $80 but i can't remember it

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer

Werthog 95 posted:

port scala to the clr, problem solved

they tried, really hard, and got into some massive type-erasure tarpit. they couldn't find an intersection between clr type hacks and jvm type hacks and the project stalled.

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer

Suspicious Dish posted:

hey, i just met you
and this is crazy
but here's my method
so call me maybe

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

ultramiraculous posted:

they tried, really hard, and got into some massive type-erasure tarpit. they couldn't find an intersection between clr type hacks and jvm type hacks and the project stalled.

gently caress

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

PC LOAD LETTER

What da fuck does that mean

Fun Shoe

Werthog 95 posted:

doing a coursera course on scala right now, taught by that guy morton ordorfsky or whatever his name is. it seems pretty loving neato

me too, I'm liking the course

Max Facetime
Apr 18, 2009

ultramiraculous posted:

they tried, really hard, and got into some massive type-erasure tarpit. they couldn't find an intersection between clr type hacks and jvm type hacks and the project stalled.

what in the hell?

MononcQc
May 29, 2007

Share Bear posted:

i should just read monocqcs book or SICP

SICP is much better on every level.

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Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip
Not on every level, your jokes are way better

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