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Ha, the second they have an advantage, Tarquin immediately splits the party. Do not split the party!!!!!! Especially in Order of the Stick world where any minor status ailment is impossible to make a saving throw against or overcome. Four casters are just going to somehow be immediately minorly inconvienced by a dumb Bard spell, all not be able to roll better than a five or whatever.
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That's the three fiends' blood plasma TV Sabine's watching, isn't it? Why would Sabine waste her 24 hours chilling on a couch, boringly flipping through channels instead of boning three dozen demons, if she isn't ordered to keep house by the fiends? So what are they doing now, huh?
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blizzardvizard posted:That's the three fiends' blood plasma TV Sabine's watching, isn't it? Why would Sabine waste her 24 hours chilling on a couch, boringly flipping through channels instead of boning three dozen demons, if she isn't ordered to keep house by the fiends? Because this isn't Goblins.
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Apr 10, 2013 02:42
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Sabine just loafing around channel surfing is one of my favorite recent gags. Has anyone else noticed that the throwaway jokes tend to be the best ones?
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Apr 10, 2013 02:43
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The Rooster posted:So, we now have interesting questions about Durkon's religious affiliations. His conversion to Hel, Nergal, or whatever will probably deserve a strip or two on the next day. Well, night.
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Apr 10, 2013 02:55
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Ursine Asylum posted:I look forward toward what HBO comes up with for filler episodes. Fighting Trousers posted:They'll just finish the series for him. What I hear (can't find the cite right now) is they have a sealed-envelope-left-with-a-lawyer labeled In case of catching up to the author, open me. or somesuch. Whether that will bear any relation to GRRM's intended or actual eventual plot is an open question. Phanatic posted:Oglaf: The HBO series. I would watch the living
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The Rooster posted:So, we now have interesting questions about Durkon's religious affiliations. Yeah, I was hoping a grognard here would identify the fiend and could talk about what that means for the character, but apparently torture porn is a preferred topic
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I love making silly predictions, so here's how I think this is gonna go down. If you think predictions are spoilers, you're dumb because they're not but don't read this: - Roy finds the gate, and come up with a plan, but it's not going to be good enough - Team Nale attacks just as Roy et al find the gate - Team Xykon arrives at, like, the worst possible moment. All hope seems lost! - The three fiends, not wanting to see the gate fall into Xykon's hands, take control of V, and, because V is a wizard, are able to perform an extremely important thing (like destroying the gate) - Belkar sacrifices himself (perhaps not entirely willingly) for some greater good, perhaps allowing the gate to be destroyed, to protect Mr. Scruffy, or to allow the Order to escape - The Order of the Stick escape, sans Belkar and Durkon - Team Nale and Team Xykon get back together, probably with Tarquin offering his service to Xykon. The fiends, of course, need Sabine close to Xykon, and are okay with this After that fight: - Roy confronts V over the fiend deal, V comes to a more stable place in character development - Shenanigans with Haley's dad probably lead to getting them off the continent and a conclusion of that story arc - Durkon deals with his newfound (evil) freedom as a vampire and ultimately becomes a priest of Hel - All teams prepare for capturing the final gate. Since it's the last gate, no one wants to see it destroyed. Somehow we'll get backstory on the Order of the Scribble, the invasion of the dwarven homelands (remember, Tarquin has an army, and evil Durkon will be joining them), the saving of Durkon, and the final confrontation at the last gate. Edit: poo poo wrong thread, I guess this is the Comic Entitlement/Goblins/George R R Martin thread not the OotS thread
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Can anyone actually tell us what fiends those are and link to their SRD entries?
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Apocron posted:Can anyone actually tell us what fiends those are and link to their SRD entries? Nope. Visually they don't come close to anything that should be as powerful as they are, as the most powerful entities of Alignment (be they Good, Evil, Law, Chaos, combinations of any two thereof, or even True Neutrality) all follow the philosophy of Bigger=Better Than. With exception of perhaps a few breeds of Slaad. But none could fit in the cloaks of the IFFC, as they appear to be no bigger than Large and may just be very tall Medium. So they are all most likely unique or wearing special cloaks that all give them the same shape and size. In the case of the latter, its still impossible to guess what they may be.
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Who What Now posted:Nope. Visually they don't come close to anything that should be as powerful as they are, as the most powerful entities of Alignment (be they Good, Evil, Law, Chaos, combinations of any two thereof, or even True Neutrality) all follow the philosophy of Bigger=Better Than. With exception of perhaps a few breeds of Slaad. But none could fit in the cloaks of the IFFC, as they appear to be no bigger than Large and may just be very tall Medium. So they are all most likely unique or wearing special cloaks that all give them the same shape and size. In the case of the latter, its still impossible to guess what they may be. I think he meant the fiends that Durkon and Zz'drit summoned.
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ZZ'dtri's fiend looks like a mezzoloth, which would make sense as they're Neutral Evil, but it lacks one set of arms. They're not Open Game Content, but Rich has invented "daemons" as his NE fiends so he's not sticking to canon on that slice of the evil pie. Durkon's is probably a hamatula aka barbed devil. NihilCredo fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Apr 10, 2013 |
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NihilCredo posted:ZZ'dtri's fiend looks like a mezzoloth, which would make sense as they're Neutral Evil, but it lacks one set of arms. They're not Open Game Content, but Rich has invented "daemons" as his NE fiends so he's not sticking to canon on that slice of the evil pie. Daemons were the NE variety in the Fiend Folio, weren't they? Did that not make it across to 3rd edition after the great 2E Holy Purge of the Lower Planes?
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Oh, that's actually their older name, you're right. I only ever knew them as yugoloths.
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So as matters stand right now, the OotS would be pretty hosed in combat, right? Assuming that the combatants are "Roy, Haley, Elan, and 1-CON Belkar" vs "Nale, Malack, Durkon, the drow, and two summoned fiends," it seems like Nale's team has a pretty decisive advantage. Belkar is dead with one grapple/bite from either Malack or Durkon; Elan and Nale probably cancel each other out; and it seems like it would take Roy and Haley several rounds just to get rid of the fiends, during which time they're open to attack/cleric spells/energy drains from the vampires. So there has to be some sort of story turn here, to avoid a TPK; but what is it going to be? I think Malack is going to honor Durkon's final request. Malack tries to talk to Tarquin in the latest strip, but Tarquin brushes him off - I think Malack was about to say, "Tarquin, I promised not to kill those people." I also think that this is going to piss Nale off, Nale is going to provoke Malack into attacking him, and the Order will be able to escape, or at least even the odds by dealing with the fiends/drow. But there are so many other exciting directions the fight could go - V could save the day (possessed or not), Xykon and Redcloak could pop in, Tarquin or Elan's secret plans could go off. I also wonder if Nale might team up with the OotS. Nale needs allies - Thog and Sabine were highly loyal to him, but they're not there. Now he's in a dungeon with Malack (who hates him), Durkon and Durkon's fiend (who are in thrall to Malack), and a drow (who has shown no special relationship with Nale, and might be pressured/bribed to turn against Nale) and his fiend. And I feel like Tarquin is staying behind to further his secret plan to betray Nale (by teleporting in the rest of his old party?). Tarquin has never seemed to respect or care for Nale before - now he's feeding him a line about wanting to see Nale's leadership ability? Tarquin just wants Nale out of the way. And finally, I think if Nale and Malack end up in a fight, Elan is not going to let his brother get killed and possibly vamped.
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I assume Nale's speech is basically saying the imp is going to get V to get back into the game. And not on his side.
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There's absolutely no way Nale gets out of this unharmed. As noted above, his only "true" ally, ZZ, is of dubious loyalty. His remaining allies want him dead (Malack) or are indifferent (Tarquin) or are bound some way to one of those two (Durkon and KilKil). Most likely scenario: Tarquin will try to seize power/the gate at the opportune moment, and Nale will object. Violently. Malack will either directly interfere or withdraw his aid, depending on if the Order is present or not. This leaves the bad guys fractured, the good guys weak. The question is how will Xykon and the IFCC gently caress it all up? I have no idea, but I'm willing to bet the result will be entertaining as hell.
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Apocron posted:Can anyone actually tell us what fiends those are and link to their SRD entries? The Chuul is a Chuul, a fairly uninspiring crab monster, 11 hit dice, CR 7. The only good thing about it is the grab + paralyzing tentacles combo, which it can use as an AoO, so it fills the role of, "Standing between Nale and Roy," reasonably well... combat reflexes means it can crab grab two opponents trying to get past it, and then paralyze one when its turn comes up.
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The Giant posted:You know, you're right. I have gone too far this time. I'll stop making new strips now. Everyone, go home. The comic is over. My bad, I went too far. This is why occasionally skimming their forums is totally worth it. Watching Rich blow up at his idiot fanbase is hilarious.
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I miss Xykon... and the nameless monster.
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Grimwall posted:the nameless monster. He has a name. His name is Monster-san.
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I call it the 'Mittid'.
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Because it's a story and there's one more gate it's really just a question of how our heroes get out of this, not if. Worst case, Belkar dies too. sfwarlock posted:What I hear (can't find the cite right now) is they have a sealed-envelope-left-with-a-lawyer labeled In case of catching up to the author, open me. or somesuch. Whether that will bear any relation to GRRM's intended or actual eventual plot is an open question. 
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I like how Qarr's remark doesn't get rebuffed by V's familiar, just says there's still time for a worse murderer to come along. Because this means even V's familiar knows V is worse than Xykon.
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Quick question: Is V's gender still supposed to be an ambiguous running joke? Because it looks like Rich may have let it slip in the last panel.
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The imp thinks V is male. More than a few characters have weighed in on the gender issue--who knows which of them are right.
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the_steve posted:Quick question: Is V's gender still supposed to be an ambiguous running joke? Because it looks like Rich may have let it slip in the last panel. No, people frequently adress V as if he/she were a particular gender.
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the_steve posted:Quick question: Is V's gender still supposed to be an ambiguous running joke? Because it looks like Rich may have let it slip in the last panel. No, every character has a specific way they refer to V.
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nimby posted:I like how Qarr's remark doesn't get rebuffed by V's familiar, just says there's still time for a worse murderer to come along. Nale is screwing this up already. His dad explicitly tells him to shadow the Order and not to get cocky, and he immediately turns his thoughts to "crushing the order with magical power." Can't wait to see the aftermath of that. Also getting the strong impression Tarquin and Malack's relationship isn't anywhere near as mutually respectful as Malack thinks it is.
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the_steve posted:Quick question: Is V's gender still supposed to be an ambiguous running joke? The ambiguous gender is a running joke because roughly one half of the characters refer to him as a male, and the other half as a female. In one of the very first strips, Roy calls Varsuuvius "V-man". A while later, Elan, Belkar and Durkon believes her to have boobs. And in this very post, I've used both "him" and "her". :p
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nimby posted:Because this means even V's familiar knows V is worse than Xykon. I don't know if it's this, per se; V's familiar is just really bad at refuting the salient part of hyperbole.
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I deserved banning but not this horrible fate.
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ClothHat posted:I deserved banning but not this horrible fate.  This is amazing.
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ClothHat posted:I deserved banning but not this horrible fate. I absolutely beg to differ.
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Colonel Cool posted:This is why occasionally skimming their forums is totally worth it. Watching Rich blow up at his idiot fanbase is hilarious. Thanks for posting that, I was going to ask about how Durkon still had spells. I think Pathfinder would effectively make him an ex-Cleric and he'd have to start worshiping Nurgle or something. Did Durkon already summon those angels to protect the gate, or is he now using all those Summon Monster N* he's prepared for Team Evil right now?
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LashLightning posted:Thanks for posting that, I was going to ask about how Durkon still had spells. I think Pathfinder would effectively make him an ex-Cleric and he'd have to start worshiping Nurgle or something. Yeah he's burning his summons for the Linear Guild. He never got to the angels.
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ClothHat posted:I deserved banning but not this horrible fate.
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Phanatic posted:Oglaf: The HBO series. I have a feeling that this is the TV show that Sabine is watching at this very moment.
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Apr 10, 2013 18:43
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Mystic Mongol posted:The Chuul is a Chuul, a fairly uninspiring crab monster, 11 hit dice, CR 7. The only good thing about it is the grab + paralyzing tentacles combo, which it can use as an AoO, so it fills the role of, "Standing between Nale and Roy," reasonably well... combat reflexes means it can crab grab two opponents trying to get past it, and then paralyze one when its turn comes up. Chuuls aren't outsiders so they're not something you can normally summon using spells. Mezzoloth was mentioned earlier, and Piscoloth is another option. D&D has a fair amount of evil lobster monsters.
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