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Geirskogul posted:Feet of extra turbo piping actually surprisingly doesn't add much, if anything, to turbo lag. I mean, unless you're Holdbrooks and you're contemplating running it eight feet into the air and then five squiggly feet back. Was it Holdbrooks's thread where this was discussed and the consensus was, on a small-displacement 4 you might see a little something maybe, but on a big V-8 where the engine's gulping down more than the volume of the pipes every revolution it was irrelevant?
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D C posted:Used to hang out with a group of them just after high school. There was a lifted truck used to drive around my neighborhood, white with pink trim, black rims with a pink star on the center cap (outlined in chrome, of course). "MUD DANCER" printed in bright pink letters on the windshield. Never saw a speck of dirt on the thing.
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Sir Tonk posted:This showed up at the Lamborghini Festival south of Houston yesterday. I actually pulled up next to an Abarth last week. Sounded like a riced out Civic. I was surprised to see that it did not have any sort of hill assist either. The lambo doors would make sense on a 500 if you were wedging it into parallel parking spots perpendicular to the road 
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veedubfreak posted:I actually pulled up next to an Abarth last week. Sounded like a riced out Civic. I was surprised to see that it did not have any sort of hill assist either. What's hill assist? I'm assuming you aren't talking about a low range gearbox...
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Linedance posted:What's hill assist? I'm assuming you aren't talking about a low range gearbox... JATO/RATO and wings.
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Linedance posted:What's hill assist? I'm assuming you aren't talking about a low range gearbox... Serious answer, some modern cars (and a few not-so-modern cars) have a setup where when you let off the brakes on a hill, the car holds them for you a bit longer until you get the clutch engaged. Eliminates the need to try to use the emergency brake to hold the car from rolling back.
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IOwnCalculus posted:Serious answer, some modern cars (and a few not-so-modern cars) have a setup where when you let off the brakes on a hill, the car holds them for you a bit longer until you get the clutch engaged. Eliminates the need to try to use the emergency brake to hold the car from rolling back. Either that or just learn how to drive a manual and you dont need hill assist.
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IOwnCalculus posted:Serious answer, some modern cars (and a few not-so-modern cars) have a setup where when you let off the brakes on a hill, the car holds them for you a bit longer until you get the clutch engaged. Eliminates the need to try to use the emergency brake to hold the car from rolling back. I think I remember something like that. I think it was on a Morris 1100 or something. It was like a little second brake pedal that'd lock the pedal down I think. Of course this is a 20+ year old memory of a 1960's? car so I may be a little off base.
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I found it hilarious when I was backing my dad's car into my driveway (E91 320d, yes I give him poo poo for buying the ickle engine), if I let off the throttle on my completely-normal-dropped-kerb, it rolls back down. The Jeep just sits there or keeps going really slowly. Edit: Anti-rollback is stupid anyway. Just use the drat handbrake.
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InitialDave posted:I found it hilarious when I was backing my dad's car into my driveway (E91 320d, yes I give him poo poo for buying the ickle engine), if I let off the throttle on my completely-normal-dropped-kerb, it rolls back down. The Jeep just sits there or keeps going really slowly. It's pretty damned convenient when you're on a 25% grade in San Francisco.
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InitialDave posted:Edit: Anti-rollback is stupid anyway. Just use the drat handbrake. Some manuals don't have a handbrake.
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Really? How do you park on an incline?
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Fayez Butts posted:Really? How do you park on an incline? With the parking brake. Some manuals have a foot operated one. W203 C230 compressor is one I know of. Crustashio fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Apr 11, 2013 |
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Fayez Butts posted:Really? How do you park on an incline? Not all emergency brakes/parking brakes are hand brakes...
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It seems the handbrake is a thing of the past - everything's moving to these horrid electronic parking brakes if the newish cars I've driven recently have been any judge, both in the EU and here in the US. I try not to be a reflexive luddite about things (i think it's a good move that the new GT3 is PDK, for example) but even I think that's a step too far.
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Crustashio posted:With the parking brake. Some manuals have a foot operated one. W203 C230 compressor is one I know of. The first gen CTS-V was like this too 
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First gen Ford Rangers, too.
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Any vehicle that can't hold for a split second on a hill with partial clutch engagement and no gas is probably too underpowered to be safe...
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Or it's a low displacement, low compression ratio turbo car.
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EightBit posted:Any vehicle that can't hold for a split second on a hill with partial clutch engagement and no gas is probably too underpowered to be safe... Hey, look who never drove a car from the 80s. Edit: Actually, I think most of them would fit the description.
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Godholio posted:Hey, look who never drove a car from the 80s. 80s Subarus were woefully underpowered but they did have a hill holder, so there you go
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Sudo Echo posted:80s Subarus were woefully underpowered but they did have a hill holder, so there you go Don't they still? I thought I remember reading about it in a Forester ad from just a few years ago.
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netwerk23 posted:Don't they still? I thought I remember reading about it in a Forester ad from just a few years ago. It all depends on the model. Foresters aren't really known to be the fastest of the fleet. I believe in 2005 Subaru made an STI version? Correct me if I'm wrong. I use my Subaru for more than just speed: like delivering flannel shirts. She's slow on take off (AWD) but she can run with the pack.
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Das Volk posted:The first gen CTS-V was like this too And second gen is electric! Also, my old Corvair had a wacky boomerang handbrake to the left of and below the steering wheel, which made using it on hills a pain in the rear end. I learned the hard way with that car. On everything. Don't buy a Corvair. 
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Kolta posted:Foresters aren't really known to be the fastest of the fleet. I believe in 2005 Subaru made an STI version? Paging Tusen Takk ITT... Yes, they made a STI Forester but it was for the Japanese market only.
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You could always use a log to help on hills, worked for Clarkson.Terrible Robot posted:Remote location turbo, designed for vehicles that don't have much space in the engine bay (or owners with too much space in their head). I've always wondered how much they add to the lag, having all those extra feet of piping. Not that that lets them off the hook for that air filter arrangement. Saw something like this in an Escalade. The turbo was somewhere behind the front seats, since they couldn't fit it up front. Looked weird as hell, wish I had gotten a photo when it was up on the lift. Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Apr 11, 2013 |
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netwerk23 posted:Don't they still? I thought I remember reading about it in a Forester ad from just a few years ago. My 2012 Impreza has a hill holder.
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Sir Tonk posted:Saw something like this in an Escalade. The turbo was somewhere behind the front seats, since they couldn't fit it up front. Looked weird as hell, wish I had gotten a photo when it was up on the lift. I've posted this before, but it seems appropriate again: 
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Eh, the wheels are a bit too much, but other than that I'd drive the poo poo out of it.
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It's like Forza came to life.
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Hill assist: the long version. You come to a hill. You push down on the brakes a bit harder to engage. The traction control system reads that you are on a hill. You release the brake, the car doesn't roll for about 5 seconds. After that 5 seconds it will roll backwards. I have played around with mine to figure out exactly how it works. I have only driven 1 automatic in my 20 years of driving, so I never really needed it, but it just happens to be a feature of my new car. It really is pretty convenient as it lets you slip the clutch less and not have to heel toe as you would in an older car. Hill assist: tldr You don't roll into the dickhead sitting half an inch off of your bumper and your clutch lasts longer.
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I just let myself roll back a little on anyone coming up behind me on a hill and hopefully they get the hint. Other than that I'm pretty good about catching rolls with just clutch + throttle.
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Only reason I mentioned it, was because it just seems like such a trivial thing to add to a car with all the electronic stability control on EVERYTHING these days. Seemed odd that it didn't have it being the "flagship" product from Fiat.
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Throatwarbler posted:Eh, the wheels are a bit too much, but other than that I'd drive the poo poo out of it. The car is dope, just the anime made me laugh.
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Geoj posted:Paging Tusen Takk ITT... Crap, I totally missed something in the conversation. Some reason my eyes hovered over hill holder. My bad.
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More of a rant, but gently caress you parents who let their kids put the entire Lisa loving Frank collection on the inside of the rear windows.
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veedubfreak posted:Only reason I mentioned it, was because it just seems like such a trivial thing to add to a car with all the electronic stability control on EVERYTHING these days. Seemed odd that it didn't have it being the "flagship" product from Fiat. There is hill start control on all fiat 500's. You can turn it off in the instrument cluster. It can actually be annoying, if you are quick you can nearly stall because the brakes are still engaged.
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BigHouseOfBooty posted:There is hill start control on all fiat 500's. You can turn it off in the instrument cluster. It can actually be annoying, if you are quick you can nearly stall because the brakes are still engaged. This happened to my CR-z the first time I found it had hill assist. I can't disable mine though 
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