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Lobok posted:You're not wrong Lance Streetman, in that these focus only on a couple or maybe even one element or thing from the movies... That's what I was taught about minimalism,using the fewer elements possible but trying to keep a message that can be understood, not just throw whatever comes to your mind after watching the movie and be smug about the peasants that didn't get your ~*art*~. From what I know it's very difficult to create, because...well...we have seen it in the several crappy results.
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Supercar Gautier posted:It's the smugness. Instead of reflecting any emotive or aesthetic properties of the films, the only thing these posters emote is self-satisfaction. "I have presented this film as fine art", says the nerd whose entire definition of fine art is apparently hamfistedly emulating Magritte by way of Saul Bass. "I have elevated it, justifying my obsessions. Let us contemplate this key prop while we sip a vintage Dew." Wubbles posted:Implicit smugness? M.Ciaster posted:Probably 'cause all these movies already have perfectly good posters, combined with the fact that all these minimalist posters are in-jokes that nobody who hasn't seen the movie already will get. Yeah, it's mostly that they're really either really bad visual puns or clumsy in-jokes that communicate nothing about the movie.
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Supercar Gautier posted:It's the smugness. Instead of reflecting any emotive or aesthetic properties of the films, the only thing these posters emote is self-satisfaction. "I have presented this film as fine art", says the nerd whose entire definition of fine art is apparently hamfistedly emulating Magritte by way of Saul Bass. "I have elevated it, justifying my obsessions. Let us contemplate this key prop while we sip a vintage Dew." An '84 Dew is simply divine when paired with an artisinal Snickers bar. Hints of oak and nougat.
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zenintrude posted:BuzzFeed made an extremely bold proclamation today... How do you not show the best one. It totally captures the tone of the film. 
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Desperado Bones posted:That's what I was taught about minimalism,using the fewer elements possible but trying to keep a message that can be understood, not just throw whatever comes to your mind after watching the movie and be smug about the peasants that didn't get your ~*art*~. From what I know it's very difficult to create, because...well...we have seen it in the several crappy results. It comes down to knowing three things: What's visually appealing, what's important in your film, and what will make people want to see your movie. Naturally, these people know none of these things. Since I seem to be on an anime/general Japan streak, I've always loved the poster for Interstella 55555, though I can't put my finger on why.  And this particular Redline poster never fails to put a smile on my face. I know why I like this one, though. 
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Lance Streetman posted:It comes down to knowing three things: What's visually appealing, what's important in your film, and what will make people want to see your movie. Naturally, these people know none of these things. It's a giant neon guitar-shaped spaceship. What's not to love?
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Lance Streetman posted:Since I seem to be on an anime/general Japan streak, I've always loved the poster for Interstella 55555, though I can't put my finger on why. It reminds me quite a bit of a shot from 2001: A Space Odyssey, but with a neon guitar in place of the monolith.
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Maarak posted:It reminds me quite a bit of a shot from 2001: A Space Odyssey, but with a neon guitar in place of the monolith. 2001: Let There Be Rock
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Aatrek posted:Saw this on Twitter; don't know who made it. See what happens when you fly home after an evening on martinis, Tony!? Also, the angle of the enterprise on the original poster just makes me think of  
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I'm a fan of the poster for My Neighbor Totoro myself.
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Hedenius posted:How do you not show the best one. It totally captures the tone of the film. 
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Waffleman_ posted:I'm a fan of the poster for My Neighbor Totoro myself. That's gotta be an early loving poster, since it's using a design for the girl that isn't actually in the movie.
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Oh my god, Love Actually is so bad. I hate everyone who said it was a good movie, and myself for forcing me to finish it.
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Not Al-Qaeda posted:Oh my god, Love Actually is so bad. I hate everyone who said it was a good movie, and myself for forcing me to finish it. What does that have to do with movie posters?
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axleblaze posted:What does that have to do with movie posters? It's on USA right now. My wife is watching it while I try to ignore it, but Hugh Grant is just to charmingly befuddled. \/\/\/ probably not, but I'm guessing that's why not al-qaeda posted about it 
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And this has anything to do with movie posters.... why?
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Wendell posted:That's gotta be an early loving poster, since it's using a design for the girl that isn't actually in the movie. It's also one of the most iconic images associated with the film, if the amount of parodies I've seen of it is any indicator. Also, because this is the Movie Poster Thread...  Honestly, it's better than most of the minimalist posters we see.
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Waffleman_ posted:It's also one of the most iconic images associated with the film, if the amount of parodies I've seen of it is any indicator. I think that is pretty cute-- it doesn't work as a movie poster, but if that were a T-shirt for kids it'd be amazing. 
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Suzuki Method posted:I think that is pretty cute-- it doesn't work as a movie poster, but if that were a T-shirt for kids it'd be amazing. I think it would also work as just a normal wall poster without the text or with just the title.
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Apr 13, 2013 19:00
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I want that poster on my wall. Where can I buy a print?
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Waffleman_ posted:
Actually, I like this a lot and it doesn't make my vision go white with irrational rage like most of the others. Am I becoming One Of Them?
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I don't know where you can get the print, but Here's the original source, along with a bunch of other minimalist Miyazaki posters. The majority of them are the usual poo poo. E: I don't get the whole folded/wrinkled paper texture thing. It seems like it adds a lot of visual business to something that's designed to be simple and clean. Does it make it look more "underground" or whatever?
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Spring Mint posted:Actually, I like this a lot and it doesn't make my vision go white with irrational rage like most of the others. Unlike the other "minimalist" posters, that one actually depicts a part of the movie that is easily recognisable without being an in-joke for fans.
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Waffleman_ posted:I don't know where you can get the print, but Here's the original source, along with a bunch of other minimalist Miyazaki posters. It might be nothing more than there may be a Photoshop/Gimp filter that will do the wrinkling.
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Terminal Entropy posted:It might be nothing more than there may be a Photoshop/Gimp filter that will do the wrinkling. It's exactly this, because I've seen those wrinkle brushes before and overused them way back when I had less taste and common sense than I do now. They're pure pretension, meant to invoke some kind of "classic, worn-in art piece" feel. All it really looks like is someone didn't know how to properly care for a drat poster.
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And without the filter most of these minimalist posters would look like they took about 15 seconds to whip up in MSPaint of course, with the filter, they don't look much better, but I bet that's part of the motive
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Xenophon posted:And without the filter most of these minimalist posters would look like they took about 15 seconds to whip up in MSPaint My favorite part of this thread was when there was a "mininalist" poster for Predator I think that was just 3 dot and the thread was derailed with people just shuffling the dots around to represent other movies. That's all it was, 3 dots.
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Waffleman_ posted:I don't know where you can get the print, but Here's the original source, along with a bunch of other minimalist Miyazaki posters. See, all of these are poo poo, but this one:  This is the first minimalist poster that made me actually mad. Not because of the lack of effort, or because of some stupid in-joke, but because it's actually a good idea. The scene where Nausicaa takes off her mask is very iconic, but this poster fucks that up. There's no color difference between Nausicaa and the gunship, which makes it impossible to tell that she's flying and not just some kind of weird Ursula Cosplayer. There's no indication that she's flying blind through literal poison ATM, or that she's giving a thumbs up while holding her breath for dear life. Nope. Dude just saw "oh, she's giving the thumbs-up" and thought that was the important part of the scene. And since I've raged enough about Nausicaa, here are some actual posters:  
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CPL593H posted:Is there a reason why all of the stuff on the poster reads like it was written by someone whose first language isn't English? My favorite is that the cat featured is clearly not the same cat in the movie. 
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Wildeyes posted:My favorite is that the cat featured is clearly not the same cat in the movie. Maybe production took several years and they had to do extensive reshoots.
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You wouldn't be saying that if you saw the movie.
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Maybe the cat was so distraught about the indignity of being forced to be in such a lovely movie and being voiced by Eric Roberts, that it killed itself before the photo shoot for the DVD cover.
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Waffleman_ posted:I don't get the whole folded/wrinkled paper texture thing. It seems like it adds a lot of visual business to something that's designed to be simple and clean. Does it make it look more "underground" or whatever? It's a distancing effect. Along with the ubiquitous desaturated colours, the aged-paper effect is designed to evoke an unspecified/nonexistent 'past'. As everyone knows, these designs often have nothing in common with any actual past style. The point is the impersonality: this design does not reflect how I think or feel, but how some other person, occupying another temporal plane might design a poster. The fictional 'other person' being conjured is also usually, evidently, a sufferer of some autism-spectrum disorder that causes them to stare with reptilian fascination at (say) the toothpick in Gosling's mouth throughout a viewing of Drive. To the designers of these posters, this twofold emotional/mental detachment is 'cool'. Not only do I not care, I am pretending to be an alien who cares even less. This is why the 'minimalism' isn't actually the problem. The same problem affects the Jurassic Park posters done up as 1950s travelogues, or turn-of-last-century circus posters featuring digital illustrations of a how a t-rex is understood circa 20XX. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Apr 14, 2013 |
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:It's a distancing effect. Along with the ubiquitous desaturated colours, the aged-paper effect is designed to evoke an unspecified/nonexistent 'past'. See, that's what I don't get. I understand using an aged paper filter to make something look older. But that usually involves making the paper yellower and slightly deteriorated or desaturated. You only crumple a piece of paper up if you don't need it, or if it wasn't what you wanted. They're basically saying "this wasn't good enough to be displayed and worn down, don't give it the time of day."
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Xenophon posted:And without the filter most of these minimalist posters would look like they took about 15 seconds to whip up in MSPaint I think this is the best explanation. Without paper creases most minimalist posters would look like really simple vector art and it'd be hard to tell they were meant to be posters to begin with.
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Lance Streetman posted:See, that's what I don't get. I understand using an aged paper filter to make something look older. But that usually involves making the paper yellower and slightly deteriorated or desaturated. You only crumple a piece of paper up if you don't need it, or if it wasn't what you wanted. They're basically saying "this wasn't good enough to be displayed and worn down, don't give it the time of day." There's two possibilities here: 1) The minimalist postermongers are thinking that crumpled-up paper gives the impression of something lost and then rediscovered, so it's a relic rather than simply being old and thus has value as well as antiquity. 2) The minimalist postermongers aren't thinking at all.
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To most of these designers it's just texture. Without texture, the images don't even have the illusion of depth and look pretty fuckin terrible.
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Avshalom posted:There's two possibilities here: Again, that's not how people store papers. Even posters that people aren't trying to preserve are rolled up and put in boxes or tubes. So the clear answer is: Avshalom posted:2) The minimalist postermongers aren't thinking at all. Which sums up a large number of art fad groupies pretty well.
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Lance Streetman posted:Which sums up a large number of art fad groupies pretty well. You got it. Honestly, various paper textures thrown around with little regard for how appropriate they are, or what meaning they carry, is pretty endemic to entry-level graphic design. I'm halfway through a design degree, and putting an arbitrary paper texture on my work reliably adds ten points to my final mark. There's a lot of depth in good design - but as with everything else, 90% of designers are crap and they really don't think beyond "It looks pretty".
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Lance Streetman posted:Again, that's not how people store papers. Even posters that people aren't trying to preserve are rolled up and put in boxes or tubes. So the clear answer is: Up to a certain point movie posters were shipped folded and not rolled like they are today. So a lot of old posters have creases in them from being folded. They basically trying to make the posters look "vintage".
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