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I think there's an US law where you can be tried for violating another country's law. You really can't win.
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Apr 28, 2013 19:20
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December Octopodes posted:Right at 47th and kedzie it says it's part of the folk alliance, but that's a hispanic neighborhood? I could have sworn the latin kings had that area. That's mostly Two-Six I think, who are Hispanic and part of Folk.
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Apr 28, 2013 19:23
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Riso posted:I think there's an US law where you can be tried for violating another country's law. Please expand on this. I've never heard of it, but I'd like it to be true.
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Apr 28, 2013 19:33
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http://www.overcriminalized.com/CaseStudy/McNab-Imprison-by-Foreign-Laws.aspx "The Supreme Court is currently considering whether to take the case of four businesspeople sent to prison for importing lobster tails from Honduras. Their convictions are predicated on supposed violations of the Lacey Act, which makes it a crime to import “fish or wildlife taken … in violation of any foreign law.” Here, the foreign laws are Honduran fishing regulations that have been declared null and void in Honduras, but are somehow still being enforced by American federal courts."
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Apr 28, 2013 19:56
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Riso posted:http://www.overcriminalized.com/CaseStudy/McNab-Imprison-by-Foreign-Laws.aspx So if the porn involves fish or wildlife taken in violation of foreign law, they'd be hosed. Gotcha.
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Apr 28, 2013 22:53
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Muscle Tracer posted:So if the porn involves fish or wildlife taken in violation of foreign law, they'd be hosed. Gotcha. I read that more like "if [whatever] is imported from another country and produced from illicit means in that country then it is illegal in the US." Although, I imagine the first appeal would be porn ! = fish and wildlife.
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Apr 28, 2013 22:58
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   I was looking for a map of the Ryukyu Kingdom the other day and googled "琉球" ("Ryukyu" in Japanese), and a bunch of the hits were maps like these, showing Ryukyu as part of the Chinese empire, hosted on Chinese blog sites. The Ming and Qing dynasties both treated Ryukyu as a vassal state, though not as a part of their territory, but that seems to be enough for at least some modern-day Chinese to claim that the islands should be theirs. I was thinking about this mostly because of this article: http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/china-officially-declares-disputed-senkaku-islands-as-its-core-interest_845046.html in which China refers to the Senkaku Islands not just as their territory, but as a "core interest". I don't want it to be that way, but sometimes I wonder if WWIII isn't going to start here in East Asia.
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Apr 29, 2013 08:06
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Riso posted:http://www.overcriminalized.com/CaseStudy/McNab-Imprison-by-Foreign-Laws.aspx That looks more like a two-nation attempt at CITES or something, not really that reprehensible. But wasn't Noriega convicted under US law despite never having been a US citizen?
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Apr 29, 2013 09:44
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Inu posted:I don't want it to be that way, but sometimes I wonder if WWIII isn't going to start here in East Asia. It totally won't break out over territorial disputes between China, Japan, and South Korea. There's so much trade and economic cooperation going on among the three that going to war would be more trouble than any minor territorial gain would be worth. There's two main reasons for vigorously defending your territorial claims, regardless of the strength of the claim itself or the value of the territory: it makes nationalist at home happy, and you can't just make more land whenever you feel like it, so nobody is inclined to just give it away, considering the way it figures into airspace and territorial water boundaries. It would be a different story if say, Japan was claiming territory on the Liaodong Peninsula that was ceded after the First Sino-Japanese War, or China was pressing a claim on the Kyoto-Nara area because they used to pay tribute back in the 6th century. Basically, none of the governments of the three parties (leaving aside Taiwan) involved is actually insane enough to make a claim on anything important enough to start a war over.
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Apr 30, 2013 06:04
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Looks like that was made just weeks after Barbarossa began. Before that, in the early phases of the war, a lot of people in the Allies were categorizing the USSR as pro-Axis, to the extent of considering helping out Finland against them during the Winter War. The "special case" on that map is probably because, from the writer's perspective, the situation had changed so fast there that they didn't know what the gently caress to categorize the Soviets as.
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Apr 30, 2013 08:06
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I like the way they help people visualise centrifugal force
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Apr 30, 2013 08:30
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QVC Drinking Game posted:Looks like that was made just weeks after Barbarossa began. Before that, in the early phases of the war, a lot of people in the Allies were categorizing the USSR as pro-Axis, to the extent of considering helping out Finland against them during the Winter War. I can't imagine why anyone might think that.
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Apr 30, 2013 11:54
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They say the USSR has a special color, but it looks the same as the axis color to me. Finland on the other hand has the striped black and white color.
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Apr 30, 2013 14:43
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It was only a month and a half later that neutral Iran would be conquered by an unprovoked Anglo-Soviet invasion, it's ruler packed off to British exile, and its territory partitioned.
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Apr 30, 2013 17:40
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Speaking of Iran:
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Apr 30, 2013 17:47
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See, all the accusations from Iran that they are surrounded by enemies has been revealed to be vile slander of the worst kind!
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Apr 30, 2013 19:42
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menino posted:Speaking of Iran:
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Apr 30, 2013 22:26
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Vegetable posted:What do the stars mean?
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Apr 30, 2013 22:29
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Hey Iran has alot of military bases in the region too. Suspiciously many inside iran even!
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menino posted:Speaking of Iran: Evidently we need a floating base located in the Caspian.
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Mister Adequate posted:Evidently we need a floating base located in the Caspian. If we could convince Iran to build bases closer to us, we could cut down on expensive supply lines and maybe even consolidate some bases so that we'd have fewer of them. Plus closer to home! I'm thinking this should all be in the Caribbean because pictures of the beaches look nice there but I'm open to suggestions.
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menino posted:Speaking of Iran: e: I guess that's just a general location for the Fifth Fleet? 
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May 1, 2013 00:24
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Lord Hydronium posted:What's the one right in the middle of the Arabian Sea? Maps don't show any islands there. Edit: oh really? drat it.
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May 1, 2013 00:27
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Either that, or some bizarrely out of place marker for Diego Garcia.
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May 1, 2013 00:55
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Guavanaut posted:Guessing it's US military bases. It definitely raises questions about the Some of those def aren't US bases, like Seeb. It's probably US bases + general 'allied' airbases + airbases the US could theoretically use.
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May 1, 2013 01:12
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Lord Hydronium posted:What's the one right in the middle of the Arabian Sea? Maps don't show any islands there. This reminds me of that lovely pig joke, but where did the first fleet go?
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May 1, 2013 01:19
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First Fleet was shut down in '73. Third took it's place. edit: The Second is gone as of 2011. That map is a bit outdated.
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May 1, 2013 01:21
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Peanut President posted:First Fleet was shut down in '73. Third took it's place. But but shouldn't the Third Fleet be renamed to the First? Gah my OCD
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May 1, 2013 01:31
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You think that's bad, the current fleets are the Third, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh, and Tenth.
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May 1, 2013 01:37
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Cygni posted:Some of those def aren't US bases, like Seeb. It's probably US bases + general 'allied' airbases + airbases the US could theoretically use. Yeah I'm not sure exactly where it's from, I had it in my imgur account from a while back. A Google image search gave me an Al-Jazeera interactive map: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/interactive/2012/04/2012417131242767298.html But I think the original image was from Juan Cole's blog here As one commenter on Cole's blog states: Peter Leonard posted:I can’t speak to the accuracy of the map in Afghanistan and the Middle East, but almost all the bases supposedly in Central Asia are a figment of the mapmaker’s imagination. Mostly, they are bases that never existed, and one (in Uzbekistan) was shut down in 2005. I think the map on the AJ site is probably more accurate.
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May 1, 2013 01:39
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Peanut President posted:First Fleet was shut down in '73. Third took it's place.
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 http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2013/05/amway_in_ada_doug_devos_steve.html
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ChipNDip posted:A much better map: Is it just me, or does the Southern dialect penetrate through much of the lower Midwest? I'm aware that much of southern IL, IN and OH were settled by Kentuckians and Virginians.
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May 15, 2013 17:26
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In Southern/Central Mexico, there is no food? Or did they decide that portion is Central America? Nonetheless, this map is awesome and going directly on my moose-hunting friends' facebooks.
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May 15, 2013 18:08
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U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! Welllll, on second thought,  Also I have no idea what's up with Goliad county in that 1845 vote.
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Isn't it obvious? It was full of Mexicans.
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