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Mr. Squishy posted:I just watched too much of the Yentob show about American television, which is sloppy beyond belief. Since they're determined to cover any show it's conceivable some wanker's bought the box-set of, they can only talk about each one for max 3 minutes (Alias got ten seconds). Obviously you can't say anything meaningful in that time so they pick a break-out character and have the writer and the actor talking about how groundbreaking and truthful they were. No thesis, no discussion, no nothing, just "hey Omar was cool, right? He had a shotgun..." This is all compounded by the moronic direction where, when talking about The Shield's invention of moral ambiguity, they demonstrated "pure evil" with getty images of: Hitler; a swastika; a hosed-up clown; a black hat. They kept on throwing Ben Day dots onto screenshots to... what? Emphasize the americana I guess, because nothing's more yank than Lichtenstein. Well, it sounds like you've saved me four hours then, thanks Mr Squishy
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Decided to watch Russell Howard while completely bored, he acted out prison rape on Stuart Hall. Glad to know the bbc is keeping itself classy and definitely trying to show itself not to have a culture of accepting sexual violence amongst its entertainers.
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May 11, 2013 23:47
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Mr. Squishy posted:I just watched too much of the Yentob show about American television, which is sloppy beyond belief. Since they're determined to cover any show it's conceivable some wanker's bought the box-set of, they can only talk about each one for max 3 minutes (Alias got ten seconds). Obviously you can't say anything meaningful in that time so they pick a break-out character and have the writer and the actor talking about how groundbreaking and truthful they were. No thesis, no discussion, no nothing, just "hey Omar was cool, right? He had a shotgun..." This is all compounded by the moronic direction where, when talking about The Shield's invention of moral ambiguity, they demonstrated "pure evil" with getty images of: Hitler; a swastika; a hosed-up clown; a black hat. They kept on throwing Ben Day dots onto screenshots to... what? Emphasize the americana I guess, because nothing's more yank than Lichtenstein. Did it discuss how important Seinfeld was, and how it had influenced all the best sitcoms of the last 20 years?
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May 11, 2013 23:55
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Mr. Squishy posted:I just watched too much of the Yentob show about American television, which is sloppy beyond belief. Since they're determined to cover any show it's conceivable some wanker's bought the box-set of, they can only talk about each one for max 3 minutes (Alias got ten seconds). Obviously you can't say anything meaningful in that time so they pick a break-out character and have the writer and the actor talking about how groundbreaking and truthful they were. No thesis, no discussion, no nothing, just "hey Omar was cool, right? He had a shotgun..." This is all compounded by the moronic direction where, when talking about The Shield's invention of moral ambiguity, they demonstrated "pure evil" with getty images of: Hitler; a swastika; a hosed-up clown; a black hat. They kept on throwing Ben Day dots onto screenshots to... what? Emphasize the americana I guess, because nothing's more yank than Lichtenstein. The first and third are pretty decent (Man of the House and the Independent Woman respectively) however the others suffer from too sweeping a premise, that last one could be split up into at least three (Doctors, The Police and The Hero) but because they try to jam it in it to one really sucks balls. Also the more recent they get the closer the approach becomes throw poo poo at the wall and see what sticks.
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May 12, 2013 00:06
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FelixMeOneMoreTime posted:Did it discuss how important Seinfeld was, and how it had influenced all the best sitcoms of the last 20 years? Yeah, the episode about The Misfit was pretty Seinfeld heavy.
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May 12, 2013 02:04
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Mr. Squishy posted:Who are all these scrubs watching HIGNfY when it's not been good for years? That one from a year or so ago with Ross Noble irritating the everloving poo poo out of Alastair Campell was rock-solid, at least.
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May 12, 2013 06:09
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Stalingrad posted:Decided to watch Russell Howard while completely bored, he acted out prison rape on Stuart Hall. you know it's a comedy show, right?
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May 12, 2013 09:23
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I quite like the Yentob series but I do think it flits too quickly from one to t'other sometimes and spends too long on other shows. I'm fairly sure it's a coproduction with yentobs bits spliced in because the look of the interview bits seems different in the way it's shot and graded. Anyone have any idea?
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May 12, 2013 11:44
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WastedJoker posted:you know it's a comedy show, right? Yeah. Rape jokes are top banter, right? But those bleeding-heart liberals at the Guardian will say that perhaps the BBC shouldn't broadcast something that normalises rape as an acceptable punitive measure.
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May 12, 2013 12:57
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Mr. Squishy posted:I just watched too much of the Yentob show about American television, which is sloppy beyond belief. Since they're determined to cover any show it's conceivable some wanker's bought the box-set of, they can only talk about each one for max 3 minutes (Alias got ten seconds). Obviously you can't say anything meaningful in that time so they pick a break-out character and have the writer and the actor talking about how groundbreaking and truthful they were. No thesis, no discussion, no nothing, just "hey Omar was cool, right? He had a shotgun..." Yeah, I caught a bit of that last week. The United States of Television. It was about as insightful as those Channel 4 "100 greatest" shows. It might be a useful programme for an Amish person who is joining mainstream society; serving as a list of shows to catch up on. Aside from that I can't think of anyone who'd glean anything from this show.
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May 12, 2013 14:03
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sex pervert posted:Yeah, I caught a bit of that last week. The United States of Television. It was about as insightful as those Channel 4 "100 greatest" shows. It might be a useful programme for an Amish person who is joining mainstream society; serving as a list of shows to catch up on. Aside from that I can't think of anyone who'd glean anything from this show. That's a shame because something like Alan Sepinwall's recent 'The Revolution Was Televised' book would've been a pretty great jumping off point, even if it's focused on a more modern era (I think the oldest show is NYPD Blue). In fact I'd say anyone who wanted to know about modern American TV should read it. I've not seen the Yentob show but it's sounding suspiciously like a show that's on the US Netflix at the moment, 3 episodes and all are split by a certain 'type'. I'd argue that's where the interviews came from.
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May 12, 2013 15:00
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Akuma posted:I'll save you the trouble; it's been moronic for years. It is a show for stupid people who didn't get the joke so they changed the joke to be the absolute lowest common denominator so now they get the joke and it's painfully poo poo. The strangest thing is that despite the first season basically being a retread of the British one, the US remake has gone on to become one of the best shows on television.
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May 12, 2013 15:03
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I'm probably not gonna watch it, what was so dumb? Could someone answer this, the spoilers on the last page don't really tell you anything if you haven't been watching the series but it sounds almost intriguingly stupid.
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May 12, 2013 20:17
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Sargeant Biffalot posted:Could someone answer this, the spoilers on the last page don't really tell you anything if you haven't been watching the series but it sounds almost intriguingly stupid. It just ends quite abruptly and doesn't really resolve much, nothing crazy.
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May 12, 2013 20:52
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Domalom posted:Yeah. Rape jokes are top banter, right? Is tonight's episode of his show a new one? I caught a few seconds of his show while channel flipping and he was doing (another?) bit about prison bum rape. This time about a man jailed for 90 days for setting off a stink bomb? I think he might have a fixation.
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May 12, 2013 21:20
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I know Leah from that Sex on Wheels documentary, she's a friend of a friend, and have in fact been out drinking with her several times. Small world.
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May 12, 2013 21:38
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There was a decent bit on Points of View today, pointing out how bad Snog, Marry, Avoid treats those who favour non-mainstream trends. The exec given the task of defending it really wasn't convincing. http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b01sk7x8/?t=8m56s
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May 12, 2013 21:52
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Jonnty posted:It just ends quite abruptly and doesn't really resolve much, nothing crazy. It's also a very out-of-fashion type of melodrama, where everything's super heightened. Which is all well and good but if the psychology of the character rings false at all it'll hare off in a ludicrous direction and not take you with it. And yeah, it did feel a bit rushed where they cover a series worth of events in like a 5 minute voice over.
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May 12, 2013 22:12
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thehustler posted:I quite like the Yentob series but I do think it flits too quickly from one to t'other sometimes and spends too long on other shows. Yep, it's a slightly modified and extended version of America in Primetime.
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May 13, 2013 10:21
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Anyone watching 'Skint' on channel 4? It's loving surreal. I'm finding it hard to believe it's not entirely staged.
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May 13, 2013 21:29
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Faithless posted:Anyone watching 'Skint' on channel 4? It's loving surreal. I'm finding it hard to believe it's not entirely staged. Yeah, me. Unadulterated poverty porn. I have a horrible feeling Iain Duncan Smith and a shower of public schooled DWP policy wonks will be sitting around a TV watching this 
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May 13, 2013 21:34
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I'm watching it too. I'm absolutely convinced it's staged. I've lived on council estates all my life, in some of the most deprived areas of Scotland, and there's no loving way any of them were this bad.
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May 13, 2013 21:39
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So, over the last 4 night shifts, I watched every Black Mirror episode on 4od. The only one I enjoyed was the Willow Grain one but they all seemed to be re-hashing the same principle that everything is poo poo and it's because we're poo poo.
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May 13, 2013 21:39
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Has there been any word on a third batch of Black Mirror?
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May 13, 2013 21:46
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There's no way this is real.
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May 13, 2013 21:53
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Nah, it fits way too well with every stereotype to be real. Like the prostitute announcing she spends her money on "Drugs and gambling" and the woman spending her money going to a fairground to have her fortune told.
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May 13, 2013 21:57
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WastedJoker posted:The only one I enjoyed was the Willow Grain one but they all seemed to be re-hashing the same principle that everything is poo poo and it's because we're poo poo. It is a trope Brooker loving loves.
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May 13, 2013 22:02
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Plus there's no way the film crew would have been in that shithead kid's room when he started kicking off at his mum. He would have thrown poo poo at them too. Too many situations where a film crew just so conveniently happened to be around.
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May 13, 2013 22:05
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I don't think I've ever seen such a tsunami of moral outrage on Twitter.
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May 13, 2013 22:08
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While you lot were watching lovely chavsploitation on c4 I was not watching BBC2's The Fall, the only scandi-inspired murder show that's fronted by Mark E. Smith. Or so I assume.
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May 13, 2013 22:12
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VogeGandire posted:Nah, it fits way too well with every stereotype to be real. Like the prostitute announcing she spends her money on "Drugs and gambling" and the woman spending her money going to a fairground to have her fortune told. Yeah, I felt the same way when I saw the pregnant woman smoking then bouncing on a trampoline giggling that "IT MIGHT FALL OOT"!
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May 13, 2013 22:25
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Mr. Squishy posted:While you lot were watching lovely chavsploitation on c4 I was not watching BBC2's The Fall, the only scandi-inspired murder show that's fronted by Mark E. Smith. Or so I assume. Yeah I watched The Fall. Usual kind of thing for the genre, but alright I thought. Amusing that they had to include a line about the killer being non religious and of Jewish heritage and therefore there is NOTHING sectarian about this.
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May 13, 2013 22:26
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sex pervert posted:I don't think I've ever seen such a tsunami of moral outrage on Twitter. My favourite tweet was: quote:I work 40 hours a week pay for a mortgage by myself never claimed 4 a thing in my life ... I'll tell you what bein #skint is like u scruffs Tell me more about how you know what it's like to be skint when, since you have a mortgage, presumably you own your own house 
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May 13, 2013 22:54
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May 13, 2013 23:03
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VogeGandire posted:My favourite tweet was: I guess that's what this programme was intended to do. Most of the Twitter noise was from all the people who felt that they personally had paid the skints' benefits. They have fancy tiles in their kitchen! They have a FLAT SCREEN TV! My mind always boggles when I hear people go on like that. Presumably they believe that when people go on benefits they ought to move into grey, windowless cells and flagellate themselves all day long for not having a job. There was lots of talk of forced sterilization and even a significant volume of suggestions for euthanasia. I really don't think this was a helpful programme to broadcast.
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May 13, 2013 23:29
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sex pervert posted:I really don't think this was a helpful programme to broadcast. It was never meant to be. It was essentially "LOOK AT HOW THE POORS SPEND -YOUR- MONEY. YOU HAVE BEEN TAXED AND EVERY SINGLE PENNY YOU PAY, THEY SPEND ON LUXURIES LIKE "FOOD" AND "DRINK"."
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May 13, 2013 23:31
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Yeah, it very much depends on who they were trying to help by broadcasting it. The poor and the disabled are excellent scapegoats for society because they have no recourse for defending themselves. It's not even like a flatscreen is a luxury item, it's been the bog standard for televisions for how many years now?
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May 14, 2013 13:00
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Thing is, half the "luxury" stuff is probably bought from rip-off places like Brighthouse for a small weekly fee over a period of 80yrs or something.
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May 14, 2013 13:33
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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:It's not even like a flatscreen is a luxury item, it's been the bog standard for televisions for how many years now? Around five or six years now. That program is stupid, and the people getting angry over it on the internet are even worse. 2013: The year we all stopped watching TV.
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I don't understand why people are so outraged at Skint. The guy with the beard seems like a decent guy who loves his family but who has fallen on hard times, the woman who spends her money on drugs and gambling has to sell her body to feed her habits which is loving awful, and the woman with the troublesome son just needs help to deal with him. People who are outraged by these tragic people are utter cunts.
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