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Covert Ops Wizard posted:I would love to trade my Streety for a Scrambler but I'd really miss blasting 125 mph down the highway and being able to pull to 100 from 80 in a split second. drat pretty bikes though. They need to make a Scrambler with the 675 engine.
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theperminator posted:They need to make a Scrambler with the 675 engine. you're gonna make me have dirty dreams tonight stop it
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Bought the DRZ400S today...I showed up pretty much as the dealer opened, and right after I put down my deposit and left to take care of a few things before I came back to pick up the bike and do the paperwork a guy came in and tried to buy it. As a habitual late riser I'm glad I got up to take a ride out there early today. Early bird gets the worm!
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Wootcannon posted:I know, I'm 21. Ah - you didn't say that! Even so, displacement isn't the issue!
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hermand posted:Ah - you didn't say that! Even so, displacement isn't the issue! Ah, excellent. Will probably still stick with that as a good guideline, but it's nice to know I could get a limited 600 or something. Would love to get a DRZ or something similar but I don't like the banana seat they all have and I don't trust myself nearly enough to pick one up!
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http://rochester.craigslist.org/mcy/3793424335.html Looks like a good beginner bike. But what happens if you need to layer dan?!
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Someone in Chicago is selling a naked Goldwing for a thousand dollars. http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/mcy/3802560573.html I'm almost tempted, just because I like the look of those things. The odd proportions, the squarish tank, the huge engine poking out the sides... It's cheap, and I'd get it just to gently caress around, but I imagine that it's heavy as crap.
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captainOrbital posted:Someone in Chicago is selling a naked Goldwing for a thousand dollars. Ya it is, and since you'd have to bench press it to use it, I'd say don't buy it.
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captainOrbital posted:Someone in Chicago is selling a naked Goldwing for a thousand dollars. Ninja 250 for life!
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captainOrbital posted:Someone in Chicago is selling a naked Goldwing for a thousand dollars. Once a bike is moving, it's weight becomes pretty transparent. And goldwings are the masters of low cg. If I didn't have my heart set elsewhere, I'd buy it. :-) At least go check it out.
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Nerobro posted:If I didn't have my heart set elsewhere, I'd buy it. :-) At least go check it out. Well, since I'm 5'10" and weigh like 135 lb., I would probably look very silly on it, like I bought a somehow magnified UJM. Also, maneuvering in parking lots.
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captainOrbital posted:Well, since I'm 5'10" and weigh like 135 lb., I would probably look very silly on it, like I bought a somehow magnified UJM. Also, maneuvering in parking lots. That's where the low CG comes in. Goldwings are old mens bikes for a reason. They're easy to ride, low maintnance, and comfortable.
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How tall/heavy you are comes into play on a motorcycle much less than the prevailing attitude on this forum would lead you to believe. If it was that big a deal, I probably wouldn't be riding a bike with a seat height 3" taller than my inseam.
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clutchpuck posted:How tall/heavy you are comes into play on a motorcycle much less than the prevailing attitude on this forum would lead you to believe. If it was that big a deal, I probably wouldn't be riding a bike with a seat height 3" taller than my inseam. Yes, it's a pointless stat unless you're racing. If you drop it and know the proper technique, you can pick it up. Otherwise, you're fine.
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captainOrbital posted:Well, since I'm 5'10" and weigh like 135 lb., I would probably look very silly on it, like I bought a somehow magnified UJM. Also, maneuvering in parking lots. I'm taller than you but weigh about the same, maybe a few pounds more. I ride a bike that weighs 220kg when dry; anything above walking pace and it isn't noticeably heavier than my sv. Seriously, if weight were relevant to low-speed maneuvering (sp?), Harley Davidson would've gone broke a very long time ago. Goldwings are pretty easy to ride.
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clutchpuck posted:How tall/heavy you are comes into play on a motorcycle much less than the prevailing attitude on this forum would lead you to believe. If it was that big a deal, I probably wouldn't be riding a bike with a seat height 3" taller than my inseam. Low seat height and light weight is nice for new riders who aren't used to moving a bike around period. All the low cg in the world won't save you when a 550+ pound bike goes past that tipping point (or feels like it's going past the tipping point), where as some thing smaller/lighter is easier to stand back up before it hits the ground. And if you get your leg stuck under it when it happens, you could be stuck for awhile, or end up with a hosed up leg. Experienced riders? Whatever, you'll figure it out.
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Pretty nice deal if anyone is in the Street Triple market. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/mcy/3790477277.html
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I'm 5'10 and weight 125 pounds, I can handle my dads 950 pound Goldwing no problem. Motorcycle judo skills.
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BlackMK4 posted:Pretty nice deal if anyone is in the Street Triple market. "adult ridden 65 yr old rider" With all those mods, stickers and crash damage? I don't think a 65 year old did all of that. Maybe the 18 year old's dad is on the title having bought it for his son, but a 65 year old did not do all that to the bike. Every one of those stickers is hiding crash damage. Rear cowel, alternator cover, frame etc. He's probably selling it as he doesn't trust that bike after a wreck. I wouldn't go near it just for the cost of the replacement parts alone. mootmoot fucked around with this message at 07:37 on May 16, 2013 |
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"As an expert on Triumph crashing"
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mootmoot posted:"adult ridden 65 yr old rider" Of course they are - but someone buying that would replace nothing and just ride it into the ground. 
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So I think I'm going to check this bike out tomorrow http://neworleans.craigslist.org/mcy/3786214958.html sv650, 30k miles or so, 3000 dollars. Cosmetic issues and some minor cosmetic upgrades. Admittedly lowsided... Anything in particular to look out for, other than the usual questions "what kind of maintenance have you done, how old are the tires, when were the valves last adjusted done" etc. The miles are a bit high I guess, but I hear these engines can go 100k miles no problem. The ad was posted may 5th and it still hasn't sold, what should I offer him? I'm thinking I could start with 2500? This will be my second bike, I'm looking to sell my ninja 250 but don't need the money from that sale to buy this.
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drat, that's a good looking SV. Yeah that's a lot of miles but I hear those motors run forever. Not sure about 100k but 60k sounds reasonable. Just got word that a friend of mine is selling his 1996 Ducati 900ss SP. Has around 16k on the clock and he's looking for 2500 for it. Anyone have any experience with these? I figure maintenance costs on an old Ducati have to be ridiculous but it might worth checking out. Alternatively, if this doesn't work out I've been considering getting a newish Yamaha FZ8.
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The older 900 air cooled 2v engines are pretty reliable, but They're also heinously uncomfortable. The longest running SV I've seen was one of mine that had a few years of racing on it, 3 years of commuting from san diego to LA, and had 135k on it. I bought it at that mileage and it blew the transmission at 140k - engine still ran fine though. My first part out.
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Z3n posted:The older 900 air cooled 2v engines are pretty reliable, but checked it out today. It was in decent shape, the owner has only had it since December and has already bought another bike (an R6, the sv650 was his first bike, probably upgrading a bit soon but none of my business), so he admittedly didn't do much in the way of maintenance and couldn't really speak for its history. I did notice that the chain was dirty and loose, but the owner before this guy put on all the miles so hopefully he was more attentive about maintenance. It started up and rode fine though, everything worked. Exhaust sounds great too. We've tentatively settled at 2800 since there are some maintenance mysteries and he didn't really know how old the tires were (they looked fine to me, but I don't really know what I'm looking for). Hopefully we'll meet tomorrow and transfer the title. Still time for a last minute observation from you guys though, what do you think? Decent deal? ADINSX fucked around with this message at 01:20 on May 18, 2013 |
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ADINSX posted:he didn't really know how old the tires were (they looked fine to me, but I don't really know what I'm looking for). There's a code on the tire that will tell you what year, and the week of that year, it was made. Google motorcycle tire code or something like that and you'll find it
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http://richmondin.craigslist.org/mcy/3816991435.html Does this seem like a good deal? KBB says its around 1,200 so I could probably get it down that low and it looks like its in good condition from the pictures. Its also in the next county over also!
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I'd show up with $1000 and walk away when he/she refuses. Looks to need new tires and I'd bet it will need a new chain.
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Which is the best deal / most promising out of these: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/mcy/3813570095.html http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/mcy/3798268839.html http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/mcy/3789547943.html http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/mcy/3786593017.html http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/mcy/3813242321.html http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/3809424550.html http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/mcy/3808705808.html http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/mcy/3814441748.html http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/3784919609.html http://bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=430995 http://bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=423891 http://bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=429020 Out of all of those the only one I have ridden is the Hyper 796. I liked it, but I don't know if the controls being unreadable while riding would bother me in the long run. I like the upright position and height of supermotos/supermotoish bikes. I really dislike snatchy/abrupt throttle reponse though. I've read that it can mostly be cured with a remap/power commander/tuneecu though. I'm looking for a torquey city commuter that's capable of comfortable highway+ speed for moderate (<50 miles) distances. alk4life fucked around with this message at 21:42 on May 20, 2013 |
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http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201304086162228/ The price is way high, my Shiver is still more than enough bike for me (even if it is in a million pieces at the dealer at the moment) but I'm having terrible, sinful thoughts about this bike. Someone talk me out of it.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:The price is way high, my Shiver is still more than enough bike for me (even if it is in a million pieces at the dealer at the moment) but I'm having terrible, sinful thoughts about this bike. Someone talk me out of it. You didn't mention you can't afford it! Oh... talk you out of it? It'll make your Shiver less fun, so don't get it.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:my Shiver Can you tell me a little bit about your Shiver? I am considering a Dorsoduro which I've read is virtually identical outside of the ergos. Are you looking at the Tuono because you don't have enough power with the Shiver? How is the fueling? Do the 3 riding maps really make a big difference? Do you use more than one regularly?
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alk4life posted:Can you tell me a little bit about your Shiver? I am considering a Dorsoduro which I've read is virtually identical outside of the ergos. Are you looking at the Tuono because you don't have enough power with the Shiver? How is the fueling? Do the 3 riding maps really make a big difference? Do you use more than one regularly? The engine and ancillaries are identical, but the frames are quite different. The DD handling is a bit more radical because of the higher CoG but it's still pretty friendly (although I'm basing that on a conversation with an insane Brazilian who chased me down at the lights to talk about his Dorsoduro). The maps aren't really fuelling maps as such, they change the sharpness of the throttle response. You get the same power all the way (well excluding the Rain one) but the Sport one is really vicious - it can catch you out if you're only trying to saunter round town, but the Touring map is perfect for it. I mostly just leave it in Sport now because it puts a bigger smile on my face but if I'm doing a serious grind through traffic I go back to the Touring map. (The Rain one just cuts 20% off the power and softens the response even more and is a great way of thinking you've broken the bike - TBH even the Sport mode is pretty manageable in the wet, the Rain map is there for new riders). I'm only looking at the Tuono because I have a hard-on for Rotax-engined Aprilias (having had a Mille R before) and if I had to choose between the two for a daily rider I'd stick with the Shiver. The Shiver has more than enough power for almost every situation and it's much more accessible than on the Rotax bikes, which could be pretty snatchy at low revs, but holy gently caress the way the Mille would power-wheelie at 100 going from 3rd to 4th was a rush. So in conclusion - if you want a Dorsoduro, go for it, as long as you've got a good local dealer. Aprilia aren't as bad as some Italian makers (they're not even as bad as some other Piaggio marques) but they *are* still Italian. (Oh and if you get a pre-10 DD make sure it's had the clutch springs replaced - they tend to break one by one until the clutch starts slipping - Aprilia never recalled them but quietly changed the part for the '10 onwards models. The only other big vice they have is the cam chain tensioner can go - it reveals itself as a rattle from the *left* of the engine which sounds almost identical to the apocalyptically loud rattle from the water pump on the right of the engine. The only other problems I've had is the fan motor burning out and the rear brake light switch breaking - both sorted under warranty) clutchpuck posted:You didn't mention you can't afford it! If it comes to it can you lash me to the mast until it's sold?
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alk4life posted:Can you tell me a little bit about your Shiver? I am considering a Dorsoduro which I've read is virtually identical outside of the ergos. Are you looking at the Tuono because you don't have enough power with the Shiver? How is the fueling? Do the 3 riding maps really make a big difference? Do you use more than one regularly? A buddy of mine has a Dorsoduro that I've ridden quite a bit. It's basically an overgrown SV650. Fueling is nice stock, 3 maps really do make a difference, I tended to leave his in touring mode, although race mode was usable on the street. twisto, just buy it. alk4life, I'd take the new gen speed triple if you're concerned about the KTMs touchy throttle. Otherwise, 950 SMR.
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TBH if I were going the two-bike route I'd have to get something as radically different from the Shiver as possible. Something like this: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201232481226215/ Of course the price would be rather bumped up by the liposuction I'd have to have to not look absolutely ridiculous on it.
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Trying to think my way through my next bike. Liking the Versys a lot so far, but I kinda miss the boosty feeling I got from my FZ6 when I broke 8,000 RPM, and I wouldn't mind something a bit more forward-leaning despite that I use the bike as a commuter. My commute starts and ends in a canyon (Topanga Canyon, for LA goons), so I'm kinda fixated on a semi-aggressive position. I probably won't make a purchase for another year or so, but it's fun to window shop. What interests me right now are three-cylinder engines. My buddy just got a Street Triple and says it's a good compromise between a four-cylinder and a twin engine, which sounds cool. I think I read on the forums here that Yamaha is moving to a three-cylinder line this year or next. I loved my FZ6's build quality so the concept of an in-between engine is really exciting. Is there anything more beyond a concept bike and rumors, though?
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See if your buddy will let you ride his Street Triple around. You'll buy a triple and won't look back.
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That's what I'm afraid of, man. I've been fighting the urge to beg a ride since he got it. Mostly hanging on by telling myself Yamaha is going to drop something incredible into the market when I'm ready to buy.
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Monkey Wrangler posted:That's what I'm afraid of, man. I've been fighting the urge to beg a ride since he got it. Mostly hanging on by telling myself Yamaha is going to drop something incredible into the market when I'm ready to buy. The first release is almost always not that great. It'll be good after the first revision, but buying the first bike of a new engine type or gen is usually not advisable, even from one of the big 4.
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Z3n posted:The first release is almost always not that great. It'll be good after the first revision, but buying the first bike of a new engine type or gen is usually not advisable, even from one of the big 4. This is true for virtually all private vehicles of any make. No amount of testing and computer-aided projection can compare to having hundreds of thousands of units being operated by morons for a year when it comes to ironing out bugs.
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