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Booky posted:Is that even how you say samurai? I believe it's technically the authentic way to say it, but it's just become commonplace to say "sam-ah-rai" rather than "soh-muh-rai."
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El Belmondo posted:I believe it's technically the authentic way to say it, but it's just become commonplace to say "sam-ah-rai" rather than "soh-muh-rai." Eh, it gets it wrong too. More like sa-moo-rai. This (click on the listen button) is a native speaker saying it.
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Booky posted:Is that even how you say samurai? Eventually you'll learn to accept that Japanese aren't going pronounced the Japanese way in English. I don't think they're even saying Mikado right for instance. The emphasis on the second syllable gives off the same bad vibes as yuh-coo-za.
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I think it's probably meant to be intentional, either to show that Issachar is a big dumb hick who can't say words right or to sort of make the culture seem a bit more foreign/alien. Or maybe that voice actor is just really bad at saying words.
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Strange Quark posted:Eventually you'll learn to accept that Japanese aren't going pronounced the Japanese way in English. I thought Mikado was pronounced "Mee-cah-doe"? How is it pronounced elsewhere? TurnipFritter posted:I think it's probably meant to be intentional, either to show that Issachar is a big dumb hick who can't say words right or to sort of make the culture seem a bit more foreign/alien. The country hick thing seems pretty likely, honestly. I guess later characters might pronounce it differently to show a change in class?
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TurnipFritter posted:I think it's probably meant to be intentional, either to show that Issachar is a big dumb hick who can't say words right or to sort of make the culture seem a bit more foreign/alien. Yeah, it is supposed to be a kind of Quasi-EuroJapan, so having them be a bit off might be the point, i.e, Kichigiorji
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Booky posted:I thought Mikado was pronounced "Mee-cah-doe"? How is it pronounced elsewhere? It is, but the emphasis is on the first syllable. MI-ka-do rather than the English trailer's mi-KA-do. It is a pretty subtle thing in the trailer though, and I might just be imagining it.
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Strange Quark posted:It is, but the emphasis is on the first syllable. MI-ka-do rather than the English trailer's mi-KA-do. It is a pretty subtle thing in the trailer though, and I might just be imagining it. Ohh, ok.  I guess that since this is a really early VA thing, maybe it'll get better as more videos pop up?
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alcharagia posted:By forming a strong bond with the nose you gain the power to summon Cyrano de Bergerac. Post of the day (one below was pretty good too). Yeah, I am expecting at least some hilarity in P5 social links considering the previous two games. One thing I really would like is for social links advancements to integrate with the game world. If you are "bestest" friends with Brosuke, he better visit you in November. If you are trying to date both Yukiko and Chie, one of them at least should spill the beans and situation could become awkward.
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El Belmondo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rOWDD5LFCU Goddamn, the music is fantastic 
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Famitsu's reviewers really knocking it outta the park: (I mean, I know the whole "Famitsu's reviewers run on bribes" thing is played out by now, but this one reads like a press release) TurnipFritter fucked around with this message at 06:29 on May 16, 2013 |
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TurnipFritter posted:Famitsu's reviewers really knocking it outta the park:
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TurnipFritter posted:Famitsu's reviewers really knocking it outta the park: I don't know, every Famitsu review I've seen reads like that. I don't think I've ever actually seen a critical thought appear in one. Honestly being a Famitsu reviewer must be the easiest thing in the world. "This game is played on a console. The graphics look nice. Pressing buttons causes enemies to explode in brightly colored sparks. It has a good feel. Fans the the genre should enjoy it. 9/10."
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:What does it say? It can basically be summed up as "This is a Shin Megami Tensei game."
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TurnipFritter posted:Famitsu's reviewers really knocking it outta the park:  Are there a lot of new readers for Famitsu? This basically reads out like if people buying Famitsu suffered from amnesia with regards to what a Megami Tensei game encompasses and, I know we're not talking Dragon Quest, Pokémon or Final Fantasy, but isn't the franchise rather well known over there? I mean hell, the last version of Nocturne came out 5 years ago and Strange Journey is barely 3 years old.
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Wark Say posted:
I dunno, I think it's par for the course of a low-effort Famitsu review. As far back as I can remember, at least the 16-bit days, Famitsu has always been a piece of crap magazine. It makes Western games "journalism" look like a bastion of professionalism. I don't know why anyone would give anything it says any stock. Not that I can think of any good alternatives though. I used to read Dengeki back in the 32-bit days and it was marginally better but it had a disturbing fondness for anime girl games to the point that I suspected its editors spent a good portion of their time playing porn games. I shudder to think what it might be like nowadays with Japan going off the deep end into underage creepiness in the past decade.
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Genpei Turtle posted:I dunno, I think it's par for the course of a low-effort Famitsu review. As far back as I can remember, at least the 16-bit days, Famitsu has always been a piece of crap magazine. It makes Western games "journalism" look like a bastion of professionalism. I don't know why anyone would give anything it says any stock. Because it makes Wikipedia articles about a game sound much more impressive.
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That song on the second half of the trailer sounded like the regular battle music from SMT2.
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Wark Say posted:
It's even funnier because this issue also printed like a six page summary of all the SMT4 information they've had so far.
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El Belmondo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rOWDD5LFCU godDAMN I can't wait for this game. Just two more months to go...
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Have they always given big scores like that? And I'm pretty sure the game's not out in Japan yet, so I guess they got it earlier.
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Booky posted:Have they always given big scores like that? Especially if the title has enough advertising dollars behind it, yes. I remember one hilarious review for Final Fantasy 8 which basically went "Well, it looks nice, but the Draw mechanic is tedious and the gameplay just isn't that good--it's not all that fun. 9." And it's pretty normal for magazines to receive early copies before release so that they can review it. Actually IIRC illegal copies of English Nocturne were floating around a month or two before release because some magazine reviewer leaked it. SMTIV comes out in Japan next Thursday. Still trying to decide whether or not I should drop the extra cash to import a copy or just download it cheaper off the e-Shop.
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I really want to be excited for SMT IV. I absolutely adore Nocturne, and I like a bunch of other SMT stuff. The thing is, I've never liked the idea of first person combat. It completely took me out of Strange Journal, I felt like I barely had agency over the team. Having one perspective for multiple characters has always been offputting to me. Can someone here tell me why the first person stuff doesn't bother you, or even why you like it?
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Baltazar Robotnik posted:Can someone here tell me why the first person stuff doesn't bother you, or even why you like it? Because it's ultimately a superficial difference? I'll admit it was weird for me at first too, but I got over it after 15 minutes.
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Baltazar Robotnik posted:I really want to be excited for SMT IV. I absolutely adore Nocturne, and I like a bunch of other SMT stuff. Regardless of camera position, it's the same combat system overall. Gameplay-wise it is identically functional. It's like during the NES days, when you had Dragon Warrior III versus Final Fantasy: Dragon Warrior was first person, Final Fantasy let you see your four dudes, but at the end of the day, you're selecting commands from a menu. I know folks out there really care about presentation and all, but for me, an RPG is all about its mechanics.
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Baltazar Robotnik posted:I really want to be excited for SMT IV. I absolutely adore Nocturne, and I like a bunch of other SMT stuff. Honestly, it's just something you have to get used to. I was the same way mostly (it bugged me in SJ quite a bit) but after playing through the EO series and other first person dungeon crawlers I've just learned to not mind it at all. The only advice I can really give is to suck it up since eventually you just get used to it. I'm still disappointed that they went that direction for SMT4, but it's definitely not a deal breaker for me like it would have been a few years ago.
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Baltazar Robotnik posted:I really want to be excited for SMT IV. I absolutely adore Nocturne, and I like a bunch of other SMT stuff. It just doesn't bother me. There's not a whole lot else to really say about it. Honestly never even put much thought into it.
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Baltazar Robotnik posted:I really want to be excited for SMT IV. I absolutely adore Nocturne, and I like a bunch of other SMT stuff. I've been playing through SMT2, and most of that game is in first person. It just doesn't really bother me all that much. I haven't really thought about it either, it's just something I don't mind. v  v
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Baltazar Robotnik posted:Can someone here tell me why the first person stuff doesn't bother you, or even why you like it? First video-game I played on a computer 20 years ago was the old PC version of Wolfenstein; I think ever since then I haven't been bothered by the first-person perspective. I do, on occasion, prefer to see the dudes I'm controlling, but it seems there's going to be quite a bit of exploration on this game, so it shouldn't be that much of a deal-breaker. Plus, it reminds me of Earthbound! 
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Nocturne was amazing because Demi-Fiend's default attack is a punch and you get to see him kill a lot of things that way. Anything else I'm okay with in first-person view since it won't be as interesting.
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Wark Say posted:First video-game I played on a computer 20 years ago was the old PC version of Wolfenstein; I think ever since then I haven't been bothered by the first-person perspective. I do, on occasion, prefer to see the dudes I'm controlling, but it seems there's going to be quite a bit of exploration on this game, so it shouldn't be that much of a deal-breaker. Wolfenstein was top-down though?  But yeah, as mentioned in a turn-based RPG it really makes no difference. And honestly it's to be expected with the SMT series because the only SMT game that wasn't first-person-perspective in the battles was Nocturne. Even some of the spinoffs (Last Bible, Devil Children, etc) are first-person. ed: I just realized you meant Wolfenstein 3D not the original Wolfenstein--god that game is 20 years old already? Now I feel really old 
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Genpei Turtle posted:ed: I just realized you meant Wolfenstein 3D not the original Wolfenstein--god that game is 20 years old already? Now I feel really old I'm surprised anybody remembers the old top-down Wolfenstein in this day and age, to be honest. Next thing you know, somebody will say they played rogue-likes as far back as the original Rogue.
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Mercury Crusader posted:I'm surprised anybody remembers the old top-down Wolfenstein in this day and age, to be honest. Next thing you know, somebody will say they played rogue-likes as far back as the original Rogue. You're just trying to rub salt in the wound, aren't you?  (For the record, top-down Wolfenstein was one of my favorite games as a kid, it just hadn't occurred to me that Wolf3D was that long ago so it's immediately what I think of when I hear "old Wolfenstein." I've also been playing roguelikes as far back as the original Rogue. Well, the version that Epyx sold, at least)
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Strange Quark posted:Is there any way I can block getting Charmed in Soul Hackers? Charm is a Curse-type ailment. There's a couple of headgears that should block it.
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Is Soul Hackers worthwhile? Normally I would get it, but I have plenty of Etrian Odyssey 4 to go through...
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Genpei Turtle posted:Wolfenstein was top-down though? Yeah, this one. Sorry for the confusion . I remember because my dad-figure showed me how to play it since he had a lot of downtime as the guy who did maintenance on the company's main interface thingy. Even that early in my life I kinda felt in the back of my head that I would end-up in Software Development.  In more Megami Tensei stuff, I'm close to getting the best ending of Overclocked (You all know which one) and it feels like I should really prepare for SMTIV properly. Should I bite the bullet and play Nocturne again, or do you recommend any other game? Unlucky7 posted:Is Soul Hackers worthwhile? Normally I would get it, but I have plenty of Etrian Odyssey 4 to go through... EO4 is an excellent game. Soul Hackers does feel quite dated, but it's not bad at all. I would recommend you to finish one of the games before sinking time on the other one, though. Tried to play through Overclocked, Soul Hackers and EO4 at the same time. That didn't end well.
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Mercury Crusader posted:I know folks out there really care about presentation and all, but for me, an RPG is all about its mechanics. The first time I saw Phantasy Star II my mind was blown. Like, it's an RPG and there are numbers but you totally hit dudes. Swords swing! Boomerangs zip across the screen! Spells materialize and fire at enemies! Everything attacks instead of just kind of wiggling and flashing! This is as realistic as video games will ever get! That being said, this isn't quite Dragon Warrior we're talking about. Having on-screen effects and good sound goes a long way. The only huge downside (for me) is that it's pretty much impossible to show relative size. That massive embodiment of evil you're fighting in the epic showdown to determine the final fate of Japan? Yeah, he's just as big as three pixies.
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Unlucky7 posted:Is Soul Hackers worthwhile? Normally I would get it, but I have plenty of Etrian Odyssey 4 to go through... It's entertaining and worth checking out. It is also kind of quaint, both gameplaywise and plotwise (oh my god this 'online' thing is amazing). Relatively short too - beat the game at 36 hours and 4-5 of that was at the casino. I don't know how extensive the postgame content is. I was happy to finally play it but it will not be one of the SMT titles I pick back up to replay down the road.
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Soul Hackers was my first SMT game I really dug into and I like it a lot. It makes for the perfect first SMT game I think because there's still the trademark bullshit, but it isn't constantly bullshitting you. And if you hate said BS the difficulty hacks change certain aspects of the game without changing the difficulty outright. I feel that enabling them will spoil me for SMT 4 so I try to keep em off. I just have so many chaos demons and gently caress I want principality but I haven't ran into a single lawful demon except my boy koraepakkur (spelled that wrong) and AAAAAAAA. I love that guy negotiating is so funny sometimes. I want a remake of if... Really bad. SMT4 is gonna be great though.
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