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Ten Count question, since I've been reading the WCW thread lately; what would the logical next step have been if WCW didn't screw up Sting-Hogan?
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Ten Count question: What does Dave Meltzer have to say about the subject?
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May 21, 2013 15:02
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Ten Count question: What would the WWE be like today if Brock Lesnar hadn't quit in 2004?
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May 21, 2013 16:18
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Triple H is out to troll poor Dave Meltzer. Extreme Rules Post Show Radio: Dave Meltzer "I gotta give a lot of credit to Triple H. He really did business here." Post Extreme Rules RAW Radio Show: Dave Meltzer "WTF was Triple H doing burying this guy!"
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May 21, 2013 19:12
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Listening to a 2008 WO show, in which Alvarez suggests forming a team in AAA between Teddy Hart and Juventud Guerrera called "The Dipshits."
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May 21, 2013 19:13
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Thanks for the great questions, guys. We'll get to as many as we can in the next Ten Count. Keep them coming!
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May 21, 2013 21:23
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The Goog posted:Thanks for the great questions, guys. We'll get to as many as we can in the next Ten Count. Keep them coming! In that case, have another one that's been bugging me; if John Cena is this generation's Hulk Hogan, would it be fair to call CM Punk this generation's Macho Man? Edit: And another I thought of on my way home; since this week's episode mentioned a stabbing, how is pro wrestling different if Bruiser Brody isn't killed (assuming it would be)? BlueArmyMan fucked around with this message at 21:49 on May 21, 2013 |
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May 21, 2013 21:32
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BlueArmyMan posted:In that case, have another one that's been bugging me; if John Cena is this generation's Hulk Hogan, would it be fair to call CM Punk this generation's Macho Man? AJ left our generation's Macho Man for our generation's Lex Luger
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May 21, 2013 21:49
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Bob Holly sounds a lot like Mike Sempervive to me for some reason
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May 21, 2013 23:15
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BlueArmyMan posted:In that case, have another one that's been bugging me; if John Cena is this generation's Hulk Hogan, would it be fair to call CM Punk this generation's Macho Man? And if so, what does that make Daniel Bryan?
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May 21, 2013 23:26
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I Before E posted:And if so, what does that make Daniel Bryan? You can't really make a comparrison in this way beyond Hulk/Macho. It worked for Austin and Rock, it works for Cena and Punk. Beyond that, everything gets muddy and weird.
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May 21, 2013 23:53
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10 Count: You're Triple H and you've decided you want to sabotage WWE from the inside. However, you're a busy man so you only have time to book a single angle to accomplish this task. What do you do to cause the most amount of damage to business? The year is 1996. Hulk Hogan has used all his clout and cashed in every favor he's ever been owed in the business to bring in Yokozuna and Ultimate Warrior instead of The Outsiders. Do you do the nWo angle exactly as written or come up with something completely different? oatgan fucked around with this message at 00:01 on May 22, 2013 |
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May 21, 2013 23:57
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LividLiquid posted:This generation's Ricky Steamboat? How good are his armdrags?
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Cardboard Box posted:Bob Holly sounds a lot like Mike Sempervive to me for some reason Once it has been heard it can't be unheard. 
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Does anyone else find it cute when Dave and Bryan dance around revealing their sources, like in today's observer when it was obviously Brock who called Dave and told him about the diverticulitis.
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Alastor_the_Stylish posted:Does anyone else find it cute when Dave and Bryan dance around revealing their sources, like in today's observer when it was obviously Brock who called Dave and told him about the diverticulitis. Oh for sure. My favorite is the Montreal Screwjob where he lists the details of a private booking meeting with like five guys and it's like "Yeah, right I wonder who it was?" All though to be fair it could have been Patterson who was a source, Cornette who I'm 90% sure was a source so it's not a or maybe even JR who is at least on good terms with Dave
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Alastor_the_Stylish posted:Does anyone else find it cute when Dave and Bryan dance around revealing their sources, like in today's observer when it was obviously Brock who called Dave and told him about the diverticulitis. I was disappointed Bryan didn't ask if it was Sable.
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May 22, 2013 02:19
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Did they ever put up the Alvarez/Sweeney/Ruckus/Delirious swim trunk match up on YouTube?
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Ten Count Question: What are some of the more successful gimmicks in Pro Wrestling and why do you think they succeeded? I know Undertaker is obvious, but I'd still like to hear your take on why.
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Ten Count: Congratulations on becoming a pro wrestler! Today you have been booked for your very first match. Who would you like to wrestle in this match, and in what promotion? Bonus points if you think it'll be any good. if you pick CHIKARA it won't be good
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LividLiquid posted:This generation's Ricky Steamboat? Dolph-somewhere between Billy Gunn and Mr. Perfect Bryan-Bret/Shawn hybrid I'm not even sure who to compare Orton to. Jake and Austin?
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Perigryn posted:Everyone else is a mix of at least two guys: He's 1 part Jake, 3 parts water.
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I Before E posted:He's 1 part Jake, 3 parts water.
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Got lots of wrestling questions on the brain, Ten Count! Considering how many new WWE guys got signed from them, are the indies basically the new territory system?
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HEY YO TEN COUNT: what two wrestlers (current or all-time) have the best overall chemistry (meaning in-ring and on the mic) and what does the word "chemistry" mean to you?
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May 22, 2013 16:40
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Bob Holly came across pretty well on Wrestling Observer. Worth while listen.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Bob Holly came across pretty well on Wrestling Observer. Worth while listen. Enough that I'm reconsidering some thoughts I have on him.
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May 22, 2013 17:27
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Holly came across as a human being and not a raving psychopath like he's basically been portrayed a lot on the Internet. I don't think he really addressed either the Dupree or Cappotelli incidents in a way that amounted to more than, "Well, poo poo happens," but he didn't act like what he did was some kind of highly moral thing. After listening to him, my opinion of Holly improved some, and my opinion of Ross in the 90s went down some due to the Bart Gunn situation.
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Honestly I don't really like the "I was just doing my job stiffing the poo poo out of guys." line. I thought it was really funny his last lines about how he hoped Dave had changed his opinion on him. Either the guy is genuinely humble or he can really bullshit, that's for sure.
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Rodney the Piper posted:After listening to him, my opinion of Holly improved some, and my opinion of Ross in the 90s went down some due to the Bart Gunn situation. Can we have the Bart Gunn story? 
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:Can we have the Bart Gunn story? Same one we've all heard but with a bit more flavour. Whole Brawl For All thing was conceived as a way to get Steve Williams over. JR crowed about this to everybody, pointing out that Williams was going to kick everybody's rear end and the whole thing would be a cake walk. Bart Gunn and all the boys were bored of this and Gunn told Pat Patterson that he was going to beat Steve Williams. Pat shrugged it off and Gunn decided to knock Williams out because if he didn't they'd still score in favour of Williams anyway. Gunn knocks out Williams, the boys all cheer (Not because they didn't like Dr Death, they were just fed up with JR) and JR got so mad that he decided that he was going to ruin Gunn's career and since the WWF had already paid Williams to be a main eventer and feud with Steve Austin which they couldn't do now the WWE booked him to get his head kicked in by Butterbean rather than give Gunn the feud. Gunn then went off to Japan and made money over there because Japan knew what a big deal this was. Edit: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDgwNDM5MzU2.html You could really see that they were trying to build up Steve Williams and were really shocked that Bart Gunn won. Even after Williams lost they were talking him up like the tough guy and pretty much ignoring Bart Gunn. Whole thing was a really stupid idea but the way Williams was clearly gassed by the third round and flailing with his punched really shows that they did not think this through. Gonzo McFee fucked around with this message at 18:46 on May 22, 2013 |
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Gonzo's summary is good. I can't say that I would have wanted Bart Gunn as a major star, but in wrestling, if you have a guy that's hot, you should try to make money with him. I can't say while I was watching at the time that Gunn was coming off as a major star, but if the plan is you push the Brawl for All winner as a bad rear end, then you should have done that. It might not have worked, but the planned Williams push likely wouldn't have worked because he was more or less done by that point in his career.
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I wouldn't say Bart Gunn was hot at all coming off that Brawl For All thing. I mean, I guess he was better off having won it than before, but the crowd didn't give a poo poo about the BFA one bit. It's actually kind of sad, watching these jobbers legit beat the crap out of each other and the crowd being bored and just wanting Austin or something.
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Brawl For All wasn't a great success by any stretch. They could have just stuck Gunn in the midcard. But to put him against Butterbean at WrestleMania was a total joke and only done with the intention of burying Gunn to get petty revenge.
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Rodney the Piper posted:Brawl For All wasn't a great success by any stretch. They could have just stuck Gunn in the midcard. But to put him against Butterbean at WrestleMania was a total joke and only done with the intention of burying Gunn to get petty revenge. Bart Gunn probably got a better payoff for getting knocked out at WrestleMania then he got the rest of the year. You gotta love ProWrestling where in order to get revenge on someone you book him in a special match with a celebrity boxer on the biggest show of the year and then pay the man a bunch of money afterwards.
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May 22, 2013 20:08
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Paying someone a bunch of money in order to humiliate them is Vince McMahon 101
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May 22, 2013 20:21
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I'm reading Holly's book right now, and it's not bad. He's not a brilliant writer or anything but it feels pretty honest, and he doesn't really apologize for the dumb poo poo he does. He really thinks that's just the way the business was/is and he was just doing his job. I don't know if that makes him a better or worse person, but I can at least respect that he owns up to everything and doesn't try to put himself over. edit: the funniest thing is that Holly was trained at the "K. Fabin School of Wrestling," there's a scan of a card they gave him in the book. long-ass nips Diane fucked around with this message at 02:48 on May 23, 2013 |
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In this week's observer: Billy Corgan is no mug.
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Swagger Dagger posted:
Could you post a picture? That's awesome.
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This week's Observer was epic. I really enjoyed the What-if stuff, even if I had heard some of it before.
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