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One other weird thing... The chord progression/key (sorry not a music major) on Within and Instant Crush sound extremely similar to me... It almost had to be intentional to put them adjacent one another yet there is a long fade out and several moments of silence in between the two songs. It would have made a pretty awesome segue.
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My gal overheard a listen I was doing a few days ago and said "That was the Daft Punk album? Well no wonder everyone is confused, that sounded crazy"
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Well this is...slow. And almost ambient. This is less of a departure from some tracks on Discovery (mostly Nightvision) than several other tracks on this album.
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May 22, 2013 04:50
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Its a goddamn AIR track. E: not saying it is specifically one, but rather cribbing very hard.
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May 22, 2013 04:56
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incoherent posted:cribbing very hard. You mean the thing that Daft Punk does best?
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"The Game of Love" was an AIR track. e: I was baffled by the Pitchfork reviewer's comment that this and "Within" are best understood "as part of a larger whole." They're throwaways as far as I'm concerned. They seem to exist only to pad "Giorgio" as the "epic third track." It's the inverse of Discovery where tracks two and four are very energetic and frame a more downbeat but still critical third track, giving the A side a definite movement that lulls and then recovers. "Touch" is just mean, and "Contact" made me laugh out loud. The buildup goes on for three full minutes. I still think that the second LP will be my favorite. I'm not sure about the technical quality of the Discovery vinyl but the last time I listened to it on a vintage receiver w/ nice cans it sounded pretty gorgeous. QCIC fucked around with this message at 06:54 on May 22, 2013 |
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May 22, 2013 06:33
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:iTunes version is good enough, but if you really dig the album, hunt down a way to rip the vinyl. You'll thank yourself. Agreed. This album plays a lot with the range, so if you plan to have this in your rotation for the long haul it's really worth it.
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I've read that the 24/88 version is dynamically identical to the CD version compared to ripping the vinyl yourself YMMV though
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Photex posted:I've read that the 24/88 version is dynamically identical to the CD version compared to ripping the vinyl yourself The qobuz version is. HDTracks is rumored to be as well, but I haven't seen any confirmation yet.
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I scanned through the posts since the date the video was uploaded, and didn't see it already posted, but sorry if it was. God drat, I wish this was the album version. This guys bass line just adds so much more to the song, in my opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAAzuN9lXJM
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garney posted:http://www.dancingastronaut.com/2013/05/daft-punks-horizon-exclusive-japanese-random-access-memories-bonus-track/ I like this track more than the rest of RAM put together. If only because it's not Daft Punk at all and very much just straight Pink Floyd homage.
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Fors Yard posted:I scanned through the posts since the date the video was uploaded, and didn't see it already posted, but sorry if it was. Well thanks, now I'll probably never be able to enjoy the bass on the album version again  edit: This caused me to look for covers and remixes and stuff, and I found a couple really cool piano covers: Contact https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaWe2upc1Pw Giorgio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD4ZrrDmoGw Get Lucky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9GfKsmFrPw And this C64 8-bit version of Get Lucky, which sounds deliciously retro, even moreso than most 8-bit versions of songs that I've heard on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VERYuxrgIkI Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 08:06 on May 22, 2013 |
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The album is called random access memories. I believe the abrupt shifts in tone are intentional.
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Im actually baffled by the review scores this album is getting. I dont hate the album, but I also dont understand the almost universal critical praise. Also Contact is super tedious, grating, and builds to... A fade out :| edit: If somebody were paying me for my thoughts on music, I'd probably settle on a 7.5; above average, but not without flaws. I've read a ton of Pitchfork reviews over the years, had them pan a lot of albums I love, but their score is probably the most confusing. Sometimes they overshoot on big records though and rate albums on concept and artist status/context instead of purely artistic merit - see MBDTF's 10.0 - so I'm gonna chalk it up to that (not that albums shouldn't/can't be reviewed that way). thathonkey fucked around with this message at 13:32 on May 22, 2013 |
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thathonkey posted:Im actually baffled by the review scores this album is getting. I dont hate the album, but I also dont understand the almost universal critical praise. I like Contact now, but I kind of agree. Especially at first when I was, from the early listening party descriptions, under the impression that they included a more traditional house-style banger at the end of the album. Turns out it's just this build up into... nothing.
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Game of Love and Within are great. I get that you guys think they aren't energetic enough to have next to Giorgio, but it's pretty silly to expect all the energetic tracks together or something. If they put all the slower songs at the end people would be too pumped from the first half and stop listening. Although I also don't understand the appeal of Doin' it Right, so I guess I wanted different things out of this album. It just feels like there were two or three instrument tracks they forgot to put in the final mix.
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quadratic posted:The qobuz version is. HDTracks is rumored to be as well, but I haven't seen any confirmation yet. I would find it surprising. HDTracks removed albums that did this in the past. (And gave refunds)
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Ya'll should throw on todd edwards bbc essential mix, he put a house beat behind instant crush and it instantly turned into a major jam
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May 22, 2013 15:24
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Ya'll should throw on todd edwards bbc essential mix, he put a house beat behind instant crush and it instantly turned into a major jam Is there a Soundcloud link for this or does it have to be listened to on BBC site? Either way link please 
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I grabbed an mp3 from some janky site but the bbc site has it streaming here http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01sd138
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plogo linked it on soundcloud 2 days ago but nobody paid any attention :/plogo posted:Collaborator Todd Edwards made last weeks essential mix. https://soundcloud.com/everybodywantstobethedj/todd-edwards-essential-mix It's pretty great, features his edits of a bunch of the other collaborators works and daft punk as well as some of his classic productions and a few other contemporary tracks from other artists.
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Credit to him/her, that's what reminded me I needed to listen to it.
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Fors Yard posted:I scanned through the posts since the date the video was uploaded, and didn't see it already posted, but sorry if it was. Holy poo poo! That's so much better.
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May 22, 2013 16:33
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Also Giorgio Morodor did a DJ set ('first ever DJ set'): http://www.rbmaradio.com/shows/giorgio-moroder-live-at-deep-space I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet but I figured people here might be somewhat interested. I guess this album has actually thrust him back into relevance somewhat (which is awesome)? het posted:plogo linked it on soundcloud 2 days ago but nobody paid any attention :/ Oops thanks Het and Intel!
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I just found out this morning that Giorgio was part of making "Together in Electric Dreams" a song and movie that was my jam when I was hella young. The movie is about a guy who spills champagne on his computer which makes it become sentient and then it makes hit songs and tries to steal his girlfriend hahahaha. http://youtu.be/GBSzdYiP0Qc
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I just looked at the demographics for Get Lucky on YouTube. I find it interesting that it is being listened to mostly by males ages 18-45. Not much love from the little old ladies.
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Do you guys think the fan reception of this album would have been better if they released it under a different name (ie. as a side project)? Other artists do stuff like this a lot when they want to make something that is a departure from the sound/music that they're best known for (or that made them popular). I was just thinking it might be kind of cool (in concept at least) if Daft Punk developed an alternate persona for making "human"/live instrumentation music rather than the robot house/edm that made them famous. It would make the notion of Daft Punk remixing/sampling their live instrumentation that much cooler. thathonkey fucked around with this message at 17:03 on May 22, 2013 |
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To me I think their catalog is already wide enough to fit something like this in, it's definitely the largest departure (assuming you give TRON a pass for being commissioned), but I think it's still in their wheelhouse. I forget what I was reading yesterday but it pointed out that their whole era from HAA up to A2007 was extremely dark (HAA, Electroma's ending, TRON) especially for guys whose first two albums are joyful as all out. When I think about what they must have been into during that time crashing into A2007 I can see where a lot of the compositions from RAM are coming from. I think they were a bit hobbled by not being led by samples and being forced to come up with everything on their own, but you can still tell there's a lot of darkness mixing around with the happy and the whole sound has matured (for better or worse) even when you ignore the backwards-looking instrumentation experiments going on. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 17:21 on May 22, 2013 |
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Just finished my first listen through of the album. Daft Punk and Panda Bear need to just release an entire album together. 'Doin' It Right' was the only song I gave multiple listens to besides 'Get Lucky', but it's definitely more of an Animal Collective sound than Daft Punk. Maybe I'll like the album more the next listen through.
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Lechtansi posted:I bought the vinyl after forgetting I had preordered on iTunes, so now I have two versions. Is it worth hunting down a way to rip the vinyl or is the iTunes version good enough for computer/ phone listening? iTunes is fine. Rageaholic Monkey posted:iTunes version is good enough, but if you really dig the album, hunt down a way to rip the vinyl. You'll thank yourself. Can you please explain why he would thank himself because it makes no sense to do this, unless iTunes gives you a 128k mp3 or something. You would have to sit there recording the whole album, then break up the recording into tracks, and the result would be something that sounds exactly the same (at best), except there's one part in the new copy where you can hear Lechtansi's roommate stomp on the floor.
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Jose Juan Carlos posted:Just finished my first listen through of the album. Daft Punk and Panda Bear need to just release an entire album together. 'Doin' It Right' was the only song I gave multiple listens to besides 'Get Lucky', but it's definitely more of an Animal Collective sound than Daft Punk. Yeah it is interesting that the song with Panda Bear sounds like an Animal Collective track and the song with Julian Casablancas sounds like a Strokes track (from back when they gave a poo poo). Pharrell doesn't have a distinct enough sound to compare his features on RAM to his normal stuff. I guess the closest thing would be the Neptunes sound? little munchkin posted:Can you please explain why he would thank himself because it makes no sense to do this, unless iTunes gives you a 128k mp3 or something. You would have to sit there recording the whole album, then break up the recording into tracks, and the result would be something that sounds exactly the same (at best), except there's one part in the new copy where you can hear Lechtansi's roommate stomp on the floor. Apparently the vinyl has its own mastering. Vinyl needs to be mastered differently to take advantage of the format's strengths but not every modern artist bothers to do this. Many plunk down the digital/CD mastering on vinyl and the result is that sounds worse than the digital counterpart. So yeah, the vinyl would sound different if it was ripped cleanly on a quality setup. Anyway, that is why a lot of people are talking about the vinyl release of this. Hope that helps... thathonkey fucked around with this message at 17:29 on May 22, 2013 |
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The better idea would be to grab someone elses vinyl rip, someone who would likely have a lot better equipment for doing so. Then again I grabbed one to test the difference and the only thing I noticed was that GLBTM sounded like it was playing too fast and I ran back to my own FLACs. My systems not amazing or anything though so I wasn't shocked.
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Ripping vinyl accurately is really hard and depends on the turntable being calibrated correctly for speed etc. Dude who ripped your copy probably had a borked table that wasnt playing at exactly 33.3 rpm. I love listening to actual vinyl but rips usually suck unless you really trust the person who ripped to have done it right and on an exceptional equipment stack - which almost nobody has. Most turntables with usb out that are marketed as being viable for ripping are rather cheap and would most likely produce something inferior to the proper digital mastering anyway so whats the point even? 
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little munchkin posted:Can you please explain why he would thank himself because it makes no sense to do this, unless iTunes gives you a 128k mp3 or something. You would have to sit there recording the whole album, then break up the recording into tracks, and the result would be something that sounds exactly the same (at best), except there's one part in the new copy where you can hear Lechtansi's roommate stomp on the floor. That's not what iTunes does, but the iTunes version and vinyl are mastered differently, and as a result they have a slightly different sound. Vinyl sounds more spacious, at least to me. I've listened to the album a bunch of times, through iTunes and the CD and vinyl, and I prefer the sound of the vinyl the best. I wouldn't recommend doing that for most other albums, because they usually do sound pretty much the same on vinyl. But with this one, it's a favorite album of mine and there's definitely a difference in range between the two releases, so yeah, it's a good idea to check out both versions if you're a big fan of this album.
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thathonkey posted:Apparently the vinyl has its own mastering. Vinyl needs to be mastered differently to take advantage of the format's strengths but not every modern artist bothers to do this. Many plunk down the digital/CD mastering on vinyl and the result is that sounds worse than the digital counterpart. So yeah, the vinyl would sound different if it was ripped cleanly on a quality setup. Anyway, that is why a lot of people are talking about the vinyl release of this. Hope that helps... So a vinyl mastering is meant to take advantage of the format's strengths, but it still sounds better when transferred to a different format? If the vinyl mastering sounded better than the digital mastering, even on mp3/CD, why wouldn't they just use that mastering in the first place? thathonkey posted:I love listening to actual vinyl but rips usually suck unless you really trust the person who ripped to have done it right and on an exceptional equipment stack - which almost nobody has. Most turntables with usb out that are marketed as being viable for ripping are rather cheap and would most likely produce something inferior to the proper digital mastering anyway so whats the point even? I've made homemade rips using just a turntable hooked up to a recording device, and yea it's a pain in the rear end and doesn't sound that great. I only do it for stuff that's old and not popular and digital copies don't exist. Anyways the dude was talking about listening to it on his phone or computer speakers, so even if he had a 10,000$ optical turntable it still wouldn't be worth it.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I just found out this morning that Giorgio was part of making "Together in Electric Dreams" a song and movie that was my jam when I was hella young. The movie is about a guy who spills champagne on his computer which makes it become sentient and then it makes hit songs and tries to steal his girlfriend hahahaha. Oh poo poo, I love that film! I actually wore out the first VHS copy of it I had.
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little munchkin posted:So a vinyl mastering is meant to take advantage of the format's strengths, but it still sounds better when transferred to a different format? If the vinyl mastering sounded better than the digital mastering, even on mp3/CD, why wouldn't they just use that mastering in the first place? I don't know if you're actually asking or just pointing out that it's dumb...but just in case: iirc, the CD/Digital copies are aimed more for radio play and home listening on consumer grade equipment and get normalized (I think that's the one?). They trade off a bit of dynamic range for a slight volume boost that'll end up sounding better on earbuds. Hasters posted:Oh poo poo, I love that film! I actually wore out the first VHS copy of it I had. Wikipedia says he has a cameo in it too. I'm definitely going to try and find a copy of it now because I have very old childhood memories of all the music in it being synth heavy and awesome. It might be the first place I ever heard vocoder.
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little munchkin posted:So a vinyl mastering is meant to take advantage of the format's strengths, but it still sounds better when transferred to a different format? If the vinyl mastering sounded better than the digital mastering, even on mp3/CD, why wouldn't they just use that mastering in the first place? Yeah I would tend to agree with you on all those points. Vinyl -> digital rips are counter-productive probably 99.999999% of the time (barring cases where the music you want to obtain ONLY exists on vinyl, obviously). I am extremely skeptical that anyone actually could pick out a perfect vinyl rip from the digital mastering on their iPhone or in their car. Maybe in an isolated listening environment on great equipment, but at that point, why not just listen to the vinyl itself? There is a reason why digital stuff is mastered the way it is, and Intel just covered it in his last post. The bottom line is, if you care about audio quality and fidelity that much, you'll own a turntable system at home and listen to music on it. For everyone else, a FLAC or even 320kbps Mp3 is fine. thathonkey fucked around with this message at 18:50 on May 22, 2013 |
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I don't know if you're actually asking or just pointing out that it's dumb...but just in case: iirc, the CD/Digital copies are aimed more for radio play and home listening on consumer grade equipment and get normalized (I think that's the one?). They trade off a bit of dynamic range for a slight volume boost that'll end up sounding better on earbuds. A bit is an understatement  quote:Wikipedia says he has a cameo in it too. I'm definitely going to try and find a copy of it now because I have very old childhood memories of all the music in it being synth heavy and awesome. It might be the first place I ever heard vocoder. It was definitely the first place I ever heard Bach's Minuet in G major on an electronic instrument.
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