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Once you've read a bunch of Superman titles I recommend It's a Bird. Its a Vertigo series about a comic book author, his personal distaste for superman and his very troubling medical family history. Its semi-autobiographical I think. Its very good, a great reflection on the idea of Superman.
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# ? May 23, 2013 15:41 |
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Geoff Johns and Gary Frank's story Superman and the Legion of Super Heroes was pretty great.
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# ? May 23, 2013 20:44 |
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What's So Funny about Truth, Justice, and the American Way? is one of my favorites. If you want an abridged version the animated adaptation on Netflix, Superman vs. The Elite, is decent.
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# ? May 24, 2013 01:53 |
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Superman this week was really decent. Maybe Lobdel was writing for an artist who was really good at a superhero punch-up, but props. It was really enjoyable.
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# ? May 24, 2013 06:37 |
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BobbyDrake posted:Nope, literally all of the Superman I have ever read is Death and Return, Red Son and Birthright. Get Superman: Secret Identity.
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# ? May 24, 2013 09:30 |
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ImpAtom posted:Get Superman: Secret Identity. Yeah. Outside of All Star Superman this is always to best Superman book to get.
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# ? May 24, 2013 09:35 |
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Rucka had an amazing run on Adventures of Superman back in the day that I felt was really great up until it got tied into some crossover stuff. Mxy showed up every 90 days like clockwork. The ending was kind of dumb but it was a lot of fun getting there.
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# ? May 24, 2013 15:15 |
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I have a soft spot for Kurt Busiek's other Superman epic, "Camelot Falls." It's an in-continuity story about Superman confronting a sorcerer that is convinced that civilization is destined to fall - and the longer Superman fights it, the harder and more painful the crash. Carlos Pacheco draws it and while it's not as big a revelation as Stuart Immonen's art in Secret Identity, Pacheco's art is gorgeous. Plus: Kurt Busiek is the only writer alive who really gets the appeal of the Prankster: that guy in our world who throws pies at celebrities, as a supervillain.
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# ? May 25, 2013 01:22 |
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I've never been a big comic book reader, beyond Alan Moore and some other stuff (a bit of Ultimate X-Men, Marvel 1602, Fullmetal Alchemist), but I'd heard really good things about All-Star Superman, and when I saw it in my local bookshop I decided to pick it up. I absolutely adored it! My only substantial complaint is that I wish there was more of it. I had some expectations going in, which turned out to be false. rear end isn't really a Superman story so much as it is a collection of Superman stories loosely tied together by the plot thread of Superman's imminent death (is that a spoiler if it's the premise of the comic?). I was expecting a more modern mythic interpretation of Superman, a character study on what it means to be Superman; but in one of the most refreshing concepts I've seen in pop culture in forever, rear end is all about how kickin' rad it is to be Superman. It's 12 issues of everything great about Silver Age Superman played totally straight, and the result is a comic that's as fun and smart as it is heartwarming and life-affirming. It's one great big love letter to the Silver Age and to Superman, and a huge gently caress-you to everybody who ever called Superman boring. Now, I have two criticisms, neither of which ruin it, but are still issues in my opinion. The first is that, in my opinion, the pacing is too rushed. At times, rear end feels like it's in a rush to show off the whole Superman highlight reel, even if that means that Jimmy Olsen's transformation into Doomsday lasts all of three pages. Decompressed storytelling this is not, and in the end it leaves me wishing the whole thing were twice as long; which may be more of a compliment than a criticism. The second issue I have is frankly nitpicking, but it was still distracting. That issue is However, neither of these issues seriously compromises the quality of All-Star Superman, and I absolutely recommend it to everybody, even non-comic book readers, hell, especially non-comic book readers. It's a fresh and fun take on Superman, substantially different from any other modern incarnation of the character you're likely to find. A must-read.
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# ? May 27, 2013 05:38 |
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That's really interesting; I don't think I've ever felt that way about Quitely's work before. There is one panel I remember, in the Fortress of Solitude issue, that has Lois undressing but that always struck me as a very de-sexualized portrayal of her, especially since (because of some blog post I read ages ago) in my mind it's always paired with All-Star Batman's famous "gimme an rear end, Jim!"[ obviously] panel.
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# ? May 27, 2013 06:12 |
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Adam Strange posted:That's really interesting; I don't think I've ever felt that way about Quitely's work before. There is one panel I remember, in the Fortress of Solitude issue, that has Lois undressing but that always struck me as a very de-sexualized portrayal of her, especially since (because of some blog post I read ages ago) in my mind it's always paired with All-Star Batman's famous "gimme an rear end, Jim!"[ obviously] panel. I want to just clarify that I don't think rear end is some cavalcade of cheesecake. The chapter where Lois gets super-powers and her own super-suit is clearly deliberately non-sexual about it, even considering what she's wearing. The vast majority of the art is very, for lack of a better word, adult (here meaning mature and respectful, not sexually explicit). It's just that the two or three times women are clearly drawn with attention to their rear end, it's distracting because of the tone of the rest of the comic. I don't think it's awful or exploitative, just jarring. And again, more of a nitpick than anything. You could easily read the whole thing and not even notice it.
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# ? May 27, 2013 06:35 |
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My one sore spot with All-Star Superman is that third issue where Superman arm-wrestles for the hand of Lois Lane. There's a lot to love about the Silver Age, but one thing that can stay in its coffin with the lid nailed down and garlic stuffed into its mouth is its, ah, very questionable take on women. Much of it stays out of All-Star, but this is a scene where any incarnation of Lois I truly like would have gone "ah, pardon me, excuse me - how about I pick who I'm going to go on a date with?" Instead they arm-wrestle for her hand. And yes, she does flirt with all three of them, and that's problematic too. We don't see her choosing to go with Superman because of his compassion, his humility, or because he gets her singing flowers and cooked dinner just for them. It comes down to who can flex the hardest. It's so out of place in an otherwise peerless work.
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# ? May 27, 2013 06:56 |
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Mike From Nowhere posted:And yes, she does flirt with all three of them, and that's problematic too. We don't see her choosing to go with Superman because of his compassion, his humility, or because he gets her singing flowers and cooked dinner just for them. It comes down to who can flex the hardest. It's so out of place in an otherwise peerless work.
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# ? May 27, 2013 07:23 |
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Doesn't she even say exactly that? Didn't she also say it was payback for pretending to be Clark Kent, who she still thought were two seperate people.
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# ? May 27, 2013 09:04 |
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Anyone else noticed that Lobdell sneaked a reference to Doomsday on his last issue? Can't wait to see edited on the TPB
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# ? May 27, 2013 16:10 |
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Die Laughing posted:Doesn't she even say exactly that? Didn't she also say it was payback for pretending to be Clark Kent, who she still thought were two seperate people. Yeah, it's explicitly payback for the Clark Kent thing. She even goes to far as to say the Clark Kent charade is creepy, but then of course the whole "Clark Kent charade" is paid off with the glorious Luthor interview in prison.
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# ? May 27, 2013 18:29 |
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That entire prison sequence, as well as Clark tripping at the Daily Planet and saving the one guy by bumping into him, is my favorite part of rear end. I liked the idea that putting on the glasses didn't stop him from being Superman, he just saved people in a different way. I kinda wish there were stories about Clark Kent stopping corruption through his writing when lazer eyes won't cut it. But that can't happen because there isn't a single problem that can't be fixed with lazer eyes.
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# ? May 27, 2013 18:59 |
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How did Luthor lose his left eyebrow in that sequence? On one page it's gone, then it's just suddenly missing. Also, Luthor giving himself the "Superman Swoosh" was a nice touch I only caught on second reading.
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# ? May 27, 2013 19:08 |
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I think it's singed off but I don't have my copy in front of me.
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# ? May 27, 2013 21:09 |
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Anyone else noticed that Lobdell sneaked a reference to Doomsday on his last issue? Can't wait to see edited on the TPB What was it?
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# ? May 27, 2013 21:28 |
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Once again Adventures of Superman is awesome and easily the best Superman of the month.
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# ? May 27, 2013 21:33 |
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DStecks posted:How did Luthor lose his left eyebrow in that sequence? On one page it's gone, then it's just suddenly missing. Also, Luthor giving himself the "Superman Swoosh" was a nice touch I only caught on second reading. That part is one of those rare moments in comics where I just want to sperg out and shove the book in some random person's face saying "look! look how much this guy understands the characters he is writing!!!" The idea that Luthor sees himself as Superman is just so perfect and now probably someone will tell me that Morrison wasn't even the first person to use it.
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# ? May 27, 2013 21:38 |
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DStecks posted:How did Luthor lose his left eyebrow in that sequence? On one page it's gone, then it's just suddenly missing. Also, Luthor giving himself the "Superman Swoosh" was a nice touch I only caught on second reading. I think it's alluded to when he's talking about testing the sonic drill, or it could just be that the accident that made him bald also made him lose his eyebrows. And I believe he wipes his forehead with his sleeve, and it accidently wipes away his drawn on eyebrow. Gave my friend my copy of rear end, and I've been meaning to buy the collected edition. EDIT: Since we're sharing favorite parts: The whole Superwoman issue is my favorite, and the kiss on the moon was my favorite moment. Not just romance, but super romance. Open Marriage Night fucked around with this message at 22:02 on May 27, 2013 |
# ? May 27, 2013 21:52 |
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Spaceman Bill posted:What was it? This panel
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# ? May 27, 2013 22:20 |
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Here is an awesome move that DC is doing. It also has some amazing Superman stories http://www.floatingworldcomics.com/main/2013/05/15/adventures-of-superman-benefit-for-all-out-with-writer-jeff-parker/
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# ? May 29, 2013 03:45 |
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bobkatt013 posted:Here is an awesome move that DC is doing. It also has some amazing Superman stories Well poo poo. Now I need to step up my game. I'm going to donate a check for our total sales of AoS #1 out of my personal funds.
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# ? May 29, 2013 05:18 |
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that article posted:I also spoke with Floating World Comics’ Jason Leivian, who—like Chicago’s Challengers Comics—has found a pretty fantastic solution: Yes, he’ll be selling the issue, but 100 percent of Floating World’s proceeds from the book will be going to “All Out or another LGBT charity organization.” Rhyno posted:Well poo poo. Now I need to step up my game. I'm going to donate a check for our total sales of AoS #1 out of my personal funds. I really love this response since the typical defeatist reaction to a boycott is "it won't make any difference so why bother", so turning it around into a positive opposing-force reaction to effect real change is like the perfect Superman solution. Also I really hope they use that cover someday, it's a great cover.
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# ? May 29, 2013 20:05 |
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bobkatt013 posted:Here is an awesome move that DC is doing. It also has some amazing Superman stories To be clear, DC isn't doing it, the comic shop is.
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# ? May 29, 2013 20:12 |
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d00gZ posted:To be clear, DC isn't doing it, the comic shop is. Well DC should be, or at least do something.
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# ? May 29, 2013 20:15 |
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bobkatt013 posted:Well DC should be, or at least do something. They could start by not hiring Orson Scott Card.
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# ? May 29, 2013 20:18 |
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McSpanky posted:They could start by not hiring Orson Scott Card. I hope they never publish his story. I don't know if linking to Facebook works but I've made a makeshift post on my page about making a private donation based on the number of copies I sell here in the store. https://www.facebook.com/ryancharleswhite?ref=tn_tnmn Rhyno fucked around with this message at 20:40 on May 29, 2013 |
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McSpanky posted:Also I really hope they use that cover someday, It is the cover for Adventures of Superman 1.
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# ? May 29, 2013 20:30 |
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bobkatt013 posted:It is the cover for Adventures of Superman 1. No it isn't. This is.
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# ? May 29, 2013 20:40 |
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Rhyno posted:No it isn't. This is. It looks like its a variant
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# ? May 29, 2013 20:44 |
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Rhyno posted:No it isn't. This is. Rhyno posted:No it isn't. This is. That cover is an amazing illustration that shows Superman breaking out of actual chains. It's clearly supposed to be the cover to Superman Unchained #1. M
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# ? May 29, 2013 21:05 |
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Rhyno posted:No it isn't. This is. This is the regular cover the other one is a variant.
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# ? May 30, 2013 01:57 |
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I really hope Unchained #1 shows Supes obviously having an Adventure. With Dinosaurs. Please?
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# ? May 30, 2013 07:15 |
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So I was rereading Morrison's Action Comics. Man it flows a lot better when you have issues in the correct order (4-7-8-5-6). So something I am confused about is the treatment of Ferlin Nyxly, where basically the Legion hauls him off to jail for no reason. The End. Even Lois Lane remarks that it is unjust. Seems like an odd thing for Grant Morrison of all people to do. I mean, it was remarked that he was a part of Vyndktvx. And given this plus the cyclical nature of 5D life, with Nyxly dying in childbirth, causing Mxyzptlk to become the Kingthing Bprxz and ignore his male children in favour of his daughter Nyxly, then Mxyzptlk is both Vyndktvx's rival and father. But it just seems like an odd inclusion in the story.
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# ? May 30, 2013 15:25 |
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The Dan Jurgens variant of Superman Unchained #1 features Super-Mullet.
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# ? May 30, 2013 18:35 |
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Space_Butler posted:The Dan Jurgens variant of Superman Unchained #1 features Super-Mullet.
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