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KoldPT posted:
Hitler was a real person and had real emotions. Just because he was an incredibly evil person does not mean that we should not strive to understand him or should dehumanize him. Here he is flirting with Eva Braun:
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Also, it was six million Jews. If you count the others, it adds up to eleven million.
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# ? May 29, 2013 16:05 |
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Six million Jews overall, not necessarily in the camps
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I Appreciate You posted:Actually from the looks of it, that's an inoculation, which was different than the vaccine. An inoculation, specifically called a variolation at the time, was the placement of live smallpox into an open wound (typically after a few weeks of bleeding and mercury ingestion). Neat, thanks. I found it just labelled as anti-vaccination, and that's definitely not an area I know my history in, so it's nice to have a little more context. From Mao(?)'s disastrous campaign against the common sparrow.
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ymgve posted:Also, it was six million Jews. If you count the others, it adds up to eleven million. 11 million? In the USSR alone, the occupation regime killed 16 - 18 million civilians. Khatyn massacre memorial in Belarus. Lidice memorial.
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steinrokkan posted:11 million? In the USSR alone, the occupation regime killed 16 - 18 million civilians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqG9Ih1ZmeI quote:When I left my home and my family
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Mans posted:Are you seriously saying the USSR killed 16-18 million people in Poland? And if you're talking about Holodomor and the Gulags how is it an occupation regime? I believe he's referring to the Nazi occupiers of Belarus/Ukraine/the Baltic countries, which is what his links go to. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_See
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Trench_Rat posted:allegedly painted by Hitler The muted pastels and general look reminds me of backgrounds from the old Peanuts cartoons. Why Charlie Brown was the first thing I thought of after gazing at Hitler originals? Edit: So I figured out why this reminded me of Peanuts. old beast lunatic fucked around with this message at 17:55 on May 29, 2013 |
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Trench_Rat posted:allegedly painted by Hitler Seems unlikely. Though he was no great artist, the style looks much too simple to be Hitler. Here's a number of contemporary paintings by the man: e: Not to mention that the paintings depict a British Mark I tank supposedly in German service, and a German soldier still in pickelhaube by 1918. Mr. Sunshine fucked around with this message at 17:55 on May 29, 2013 |
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Hitler should have been an architect. The relationship between him and Albert Speer is one of the more personal and truly illuminating parts of him.
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I remembered this book, La Part de l'autre by Eric Emmanuel Schmitt, who's a pretty popular (and bad) writer. The premise of the book was interesting though, with a narrated biography of Hitler and a parallel alternate history biography of Hitler as a successful artist. But the narrative style is just ugh.
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Democrazy posted:Hitler should have been an architect. The relationship between him and Albert Speer is one of the more personal and truly illuminating parts of him. Allow me to once more advocate that anyone who is even passingly interested in Hitler's personality and art interest read Frederick Spott's fantastic Hitler and the Power of Aesthetics. It's a great read and helps illustrate the inner workings of a man who never stopped thinking of himself as an artist, and also argues that he was so calamitous a dictator specifically because he was a complicated, sophisticated individual, as opposed to being just a simplistic monster.
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The man was definitely artistically inclined. He wasn't somebody who just liked to paint, the man was gifted.quote:e: Not to mention that the paintings depict a British Mark I tank supposedly in German service, and a German soldier still in pickelhaube by 1918. WWI is fascinating, partly because the savagery and iconoclasm of the whole ordeal transformed old Franco-Prussian era armies composed of soldiers that looked (in 1914) like this into armies composed of soldiers that looked (in 1918) much more like what we would see in twenty years time:
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vickser posted:The man was definitely artistically inclined. He wasn't somebody who just liked to paint, the man was gifted. Inclined I'll give you, but gifted is stretching things a bit. I mean sure, he was decent bordering on good when it came to architectural paintings/drawings and natural scenes, but he had a real problem with perspective and the human form. Sure, he was self-taught and might've overcome those shortcomings with proper instruction, but all in all he probably never would have been more than a Sunday afternoon artist. More's the pity, honestly. EDIT: On second thought, that last sentence is a bit ambiguous so I'll clarify: It's unfortunate he wasn't talented enough to get into the Vienna Academy in his youth, which one hopes would have steered him away from politics and all the ugly things he caused to happen later on. Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 19:26 on May 29, 2013 |
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While we're on the subject of Hitler fanfiction, Norman Spinrad imagined him as a hack SF writer to lampoon the fascist and white supremacist undercurrents in contemporary science fiction.
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vickser posted:The man was definitely artistically inclined. He wasn't somebody who just liked to paint, the man was gifted. One of the first engagements of ww1 was between a german patrol and a squad of british(?) lancers on horseback. Lancers, with actual, literal lances. World war 1 also saw the last wartime use of the crossbow. It's mind blowing to think of how different the world was less than a century ago.
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Humboldt squid posted:One of the first engagements of ww1 was between a german patrol and a squad of british(?) lancers on horseback. Lancers, with actual, literal lances. World war 1 also saw the last wartime use of the crossbow. It's mind blowing to think of how different the world was less than a century ago. Hell, in some places the practice of horse-mounted soldiers didn't die out until well after the war. For example, this happened during the 1919-1920 Polish-Soviet War: quote:The 1st Krechowiecki Lancers deployed to the left and began to move up the slight incline at a trot in the direction of the Bolsheviks. As we came over the ridge, we caught sight of a huge wave of Budionny's cavalry descending from the opposite ridge into the dip, also at a trot. The Bolsheviks had the setting sun in their eyes, and probably could not make out the strength of their opponent. Both sides slowed to a walk and came to a standstill facing each other. A colorfully-dressed rider galloped out of the swarm of Cossacks on a magnificent black charger and, waving his sabre above his head, shouted: (Source: Warsaw 1920 by Adam Zamoyski, quoting a Polish lancer's account of a battle taking place on 29 May 1919 near Wolodarka, as presented by one J. Fudakowski) Pictured: Soviet soldiers of the Konarmiya, which played a major role in the Polish-Soviet War of 1919-1920.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf5YxhH5CZY
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He thinks freedom of speech is for journalists, only?
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Humboldt squid posted:One of the first engagements of ww1 was between a german patrol and a squad of british(?) lancers on horseback. Lancers, with actual, literal lances. World war 1 also saw the last wartime use of the crossbow. It's mind blowing to think of how different the world was less than a century ago. In Belgium, the battle is remembered as the Battle of the Silver Helmets, which is a reference to the Battle of the Golden Spurs. Where the French troops left the field littered with golden spurs in 1302, the Germans now filled it with the silver helmets of the German cuirassiers.
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Trench_Rat posted:allegedly painted by Hitler Just get the guy a fuckin' cellphone camera - hipsters This guy is having a ball in Syria:
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NEED TOILET PAPER posted:Hell, in some places the practice of horse-mounted soldiers didn't die out until well after the war. For example, this happened during the 1919-1920 Polish-Soviet War: Polish lancers, 1936: Despite the impression sometimes given of noble (or stupid, depending) but futile Polish cavalry charges on Nazi tanks, however, the Polish cavalry in WWII were actually used as essentially mobile infantry or reconnaissance units, armed with modern weaponry, that generally dismounted before engaging the enemy. They were actually fairly useful, under the circumstances.
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# ? May 29, 2013 22:59 |
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Not included: a strict redefinition of "man" to include only white males. "Day of Constitution by Isaak Brodsky, 1930"
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I don't think I've ever met a self described libertarian that wasn't some sort of awful crypto-fascist under a thin veneer of ~free market capitalism~.
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Why are you showing us your old Christmas cards? Is it from someone important?
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Why are you showing us your old Christmas cards? Is it from someone important? Not anymore.
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Even her old christmas cards are creepy as gently caress (it's Bachmann, btw). Is she trying to pimp her children out? Syrians smuggling gas to Turkey.
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Sir John Falstaff posted:Polish lancers, 1936: Ever since the Battle of Crécy cavalry were used as tactically mobile units that often fought on foot.
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Joementum posted:Not anymore. http://vimeo.com/65886512 This is from the Green Walk, where 5K people (yours truly included) marched to show we cared about the environment to the now Right-Wing government. Was another protest yesterday where a thousand signatures were presented to the PM.
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Trench_Rat posted:allegedly painted by Hitler I remember once reading an article by someone who did a critique of one of hitler's painting solely on its artistic merit (This one I think) I remember it went along the lines that Hitler wasn't a bad painter per-se, but rather uninspired, etc. Does anyone have a link to that?
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Humboldt squid posted:One of the first engagements of ww1 was between a german patrol and a squad of british(?) lancers on horseback. Lancers, with actual, literal lances. World war 1 also saw the last wartime use of the crossbow. It's mind blowing to think of how different the world was less than a century ago. I know, it's fascinating WWI use of horses: WW2 use of horses: WWI Armor: "A German sentinel is wearing a Grabenpanzer" "A Medic" WWI Trench clubs: Also: "This rather disturbingly sobering photo is of WW1 servicemen looking at an impression in the ground that had just been caused by an airman falling to his death from a great height"
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Democrazy posted:Hitler should have been an architect. The relationship between him and Albert Speer is one of the more personal and truly illuminating parts of him. Even though Speer spends a lot of it trying to whitewash himself, I still thought Inside The Third Reich was pretty interesting.
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Disturbingly sobering isn't the words I'd use, "I will burn in hell for laughing at this" maybe. US forces also used horses when working with the northern alliance in the invasion of Afghanistan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America's_Response_Monument
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AlexanderCA posted:Disturbingly sobering isn't the words I'd use, "I will burn in hell for laughing at this" maybe. Hah, I know. This was also part of the caption where I found that picture: "No parachutes were issued to British airmen during the whole of WW1. The Germans were issued them late on in the War, however they were sometimes faulty and unreliable." Pictures: quote:Autonome Nationalisten (“Autonomous Nationalists,” abbreviated AN) are German, Dutch and to a lesser degree Flemishneo-Nazis who have adopted some of the far left’s traditional dress (black clothing, Che Guevara T-shirts, keffiyehs), symbolism, and tactics (black bloc). They began to appear in 2003–4 and are more violent than other members of the far right. The AN are ideologically inspired by Strasserism. Mareš writes that they are “a strategic concept, organization and subculture – all three terms are possible for the designation of this phenomenon.” In 2008 Germany’s Autonomous Nationalists were estimated to number approximately 400 people, 10% of the country’s neo-Nazis. This explains the weird-rear end neo-nazi march I saw a video of that happened in Venlo in the Netherlands, where the fascists were marching with what looked like antifa flags and an anti-capitalist bannner. I thought they might be like trophies or something. ekuNNN fucked around with this message at 00:22 on May 30, 2013 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Wow, you knew Not-Palin? That's pretty neat. It's available online. Here are the second and third pages
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ShortStack posted:I don't think I've ever met a self described libertarian that wasn't some sort of awful crypto-fascist under a thin veneer of ~free market capitalism~. This is the kind of thing I'm talking about : No, politicized armies are not a good thing. Troops that turn on their government do not *usually* result in a net increase in freedom. (I think Portugal?) System Metternich posted:Even her old christmas cards are creepy as gently caress (it's Bachmann, btw). Is she trying to pimp her children out? BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 00:50 on May 30, 2013 |
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Mr. Sunshine posted:Seems unlikely. Though he was no great artist, the style looks much too simple to be Hitler. Here's a number of contemporary paintings by the man: You forgot Hitler's best work:
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