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Penguissimo posted:Perhaps you worded this awkwardly, so forgive me if this isn't a surprise, but you do realize the "Beef gives birth to a board game" gag I did not! Even as a big fan it's difficult to have encyclopedic knowledge of a strip that spans such a wide stretch of time. Either way my opinion stands that this would turn into Dilbert 2.0 and I've never wanted to be more wrong.
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Scags McDouglas posted:I did not! Even as a big fan it's difficult to have encyclopedic knowledge of a strip that spans such a wide stretch of time. Either way my opinion stands that this would turn into Dilbert 2.0 and I've never wanted to be more wrong. Looks like it's time for another archive binge or two! In all seriousness, I share your hope and a bit of your fear, brother.
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To be fair, the teaser that leaked wasn't something we were meant to see. It was very much a proof of concept to be shopped around to different animation studios and is most likely not representative of any final product at all.
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Is the leaked teaser we're all talking about still that like 30 seconds thing that quickly flipped between short animated images/scenes from a long time ago, or something newer? Cause that one has all of like 3 frames of Roast Beef on a hospital bed with a blanket over his lady bits.
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glug posted:Is the leaked teaser we're all talking about still that like 30 seconds thing that quickly flipped between short animated images/scenes from a long time ago, or something newer? Cause that one has all of like 3 frames of Roast Beef on a hospital bed with a blanket over his lady bits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_97q16TFxk
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This is great, the voices are jarring because everyone has their own in their head, and the animation is a little choppy but it's a test thing. Also, roast beef is still the color of depression, and not surprisingly voiced by Onstad.
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The problem with the teaser video is that it looks like a flash vid from 1999 and also the jokes aren't funny when animated.
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morestuff posted:Some dialogue just shouldn't be read aloud. Dialogue can be hella read all day man, just not like over a phone while you're on the can, which is apparently the way they did this thing. Read those words out loud, they sound crispy unless you are doing it wrong. Like they did.
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I'm iffy on a lot of that, after rewatches, but I always laugh my rear end off at the Scones bit.
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I think I like the scones bit because it's the closest Huss gets to nailing Ray's voice. A lot of the other bits aren't quite there yet.
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Honestly, I think it works the best solely because it's the only one that was written to be animated. The others feel kinda clunky because they were originally written as comic strips and shoehorned into animation.
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I dunno I just never understand the anxiety and barely contained rage at happenings like an achewood cartoon. It may be funny, it may not, if it's not it costs you nothing but the time to watch it, which can't be that much of a concern, it ain't like Onstad sucks the memories of the strips out of our heads to make the cartoon.
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I kinda feel bad for Onstad, what with all these people making GBS threads on a very rough cut that was never meant for public consumption
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The Philippe's present one is really a clunker, isn't it. There's that time wasted in transition when Philippe and Ray are running to see Beef and then the "so wacky" line I think genuinely only works in print. Scags McDouglas posted:. . . pit of disgust . . . deserving of the two seconds of eye flicking it would take . . . demanded about 10 seconds of my time . . . droll theatrics painfully transpire . . . humorless burden . . . propped up by a temporary scaffolding of fans . . . we weren't enchanted . . . penny stocks were a better option . . . I am sorry, my brothers. Apparently being a hardcore Achewood connoisseur hasn't taught you how to not write like a frothing doofus.
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The Beef Baby bit suffers from being that strip acted out verbatim, and conforming to the panels too much. Action flows differently in animation than in sequential art. http://achewood.com/index.php?date=08222005 The point where Ray slows down, and tells Philippe "Don't talk!" drags on the scene's momentum. In the panel, that "Don't Talk!" is a flicker of thought. It informs nothing, and it's not funny. In the strip, it's unnecessary, but it has zero real effect. In animation, it demands that second and a half of being spoken, and breaks the flow of the scene. Next frame is an establishing shot, and expository. If you know the character, the big fancy R on the door is enough to infer it's Ray's room. Show the door. Show the characters entering the door. Done. The rest of the conversation actually sounds like they're reading it off of the panels in the recording booth(Well, Onstad does). It doesn't sound like two people speaking to each other. It sounds like two people going over lines for the first time. Scones works much better for the format. It's a mostly uninterrupted shot. Two people are having a conversation. Onstad's writing, and the VAs do all the work(This is two professional VAs in the scene, and it shows). Quick cutaway drives the punchline home, and that's it. Mood Whiskey is another verbatim strip. http://achewood.com/index.php?date=10212005 Just Roast Beef, instead of Teodor. Probably so they wouldn't have to spend time introducing Teodor. It's better suited for translation, and they make better choices in animating it. Instead of framing the panel with Ray holding the black bottle, and saying "Ooh, cool! The all-black bottle!", they just have him pick it up, without breaking the shot. The close-up on Ray is good for emphasizing the mood change, and that's really the only camera shift in the scene. The use of the medium is a mixed bag, but there are definitely bright spots that show someone on that team can think like a director. I also hope to god they find a real VA to do Roast Beef. I'm not trying to hate on Onstad, but he's just not a voice actor. Wah, he'll have to stick to being an immensely talented writer.
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The big problem with the baby bit is it hinges on this weird "actors trying to sound like characters acting badly" schtick, and we just aren't used to Onstad and Huss enough to sense the change, so it just comes off as them delivering it like a 5th grade play. Not the best strip to pull from for a first run at animated Achewood. I could easily be wrong, but the only reason I think that's the problem is that Onstad sounds a lot more relaxed and in-character in the toilet party bit. Still not great, but I'd be willing to bet he wouldn't be Beef's final voice in a fully produced version of Achewood anyway. Maduo fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Jun 15, 2013 |
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FWIW my wife is familiar with achewood but hasn't read through it like I try to get her to. I sat her down with the test video and she laughed within a few seconds, and throughout the whole thing. Considering this is just direct comic translation, I think that's a good sign. I'm looking forward to original for-tv content, because if there's anything we know Onstad can do it's put out funny poo poo in achewood, and I think he's going to find his motivation with this medium.
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Jerusalem posted:Later in that same strip: I have such a specific way I read this panel in my mind each time. He just gets so angry when he gets to the word "hideous" that in my mind he pauses a moment before spitting it out. I love the way Achewood gets you to "hear" its characters.
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The Time Dissolver posted:Apparently being a hardcore Achewood connoisseur hasn't taught you how to not write like a frothing doofus.
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The Time Dissolver posted:The Philippe's present one is really a clunker, isn't it. There's that time wasted in transition when Philippe and Ray are running to see Beef and then the "so wacky" line I think genuinely only works in print. Yeah I was in sort of a strange mood when I wrote that. I'll just go ahead and take my licks on this one. Shmoses posted:I think my favourite part of that post was that he completely missed that the skit he was specifically saying was nothing like how one of the comics would run was actually lifted verbatim from one of the strips. Naw my point was more that the punch line was extremely telegraphed, which can sort of work in the comic strip because a reader can jump ahead at their own speed, but in the skit it just became a chore to sit through. But really one thing I like about this thread is that my inability to recall every last strip from 2002-present can be a point of ridicule. Ain't nobody finding that sort of environment outside anywhere.
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When did Onstad add all this new merchandise? Rad! RAAAAAAD! (has he done anything at all about the second cookbook or what)
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There was something about a future makegood but nothing since.
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Angry Boat posted:When did Onstad add all this new merchandise? Rad! RAAAAAAD! I just want book collections of the comics themselves! I've got all of the original ones (several are signed first print), along with the GOF hardcover.
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Revol posted:I just want book collections of the comics themselves! I've got all of the original ones (several are signed first print), along with the GOF hardcover. I was in love with the Dark Horse hardcovers and I wish they'd kept going, they were absolutely brilliant. I'm guessing they weren't financially successful or something 
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I really miss those Roast Beef greeting cards. I have one "I Am Sorry I played it Huffy on the Phone / [inside] It's just That Society Did My Nerves Up Wretched" and one "I'm Sorry I Forgot All Kinds of Stuff About You / [inside] I Was Having a Panic Attack" card left. I'm waiting for the perfect moments to use them.
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Does anyone remember where Pat wrote about starting a show called "Soy You Think You Can Dance"? I searched his blog but didn't see it, it's one of the funniest things I've ever read.
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tacoman165 posted:Does anyone remember where Pat wrote about starting a show called "Soy You Think You Can Dance"? I searched his blog but didn't see it, it's one of the funniest things I've ever read. http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/16416061 is the only thing I can find. quote:Well, I was having a little fun last night, and I came up with an idea that made Rod and me laugh. It’ll make you laugh, too. Sure, it’s based on popular culture, which is always a losing bet, but I think for now it’s ok to put it out there. Not everything I write needs to be kept for the ages (although I am sure future scholars will be able to extrapolate anthropological value from this).
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Madoushi posted:http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/16416061 is the only thing I can find. That's it, thank you so much!
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Oh God that was great, I'd tried to find it earlier and got lost down the rabbithole that is Pat's amazing blog (particularly the entry where he starts screaming angry obscenities at imaginary people who are pissed off he hasn't updated his blog yet), and it's great to hear callbacks to his swing-dancing and his knee injury. “If you had some thumpin’ aftermarket titties, I’d suck ‘em!” I miss you, Achewood 
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Wow, I hadn't read that before. Some nights, Ray'd go home with dolphin burns over 90% of his chest. So awesome.
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I figure someone oughta repost Gavok's magnificence from the Ruin the Moment threadGavok posted:League of Extraordinary Achewood.
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Phy posted:I figure someone oughta repost Gavok's magnificence from the Ruin the Moment thread It's incredible how well that fits. That's amazing.
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I ended up putting all my Achewood Ruin the Moments together in one post. Maniac Clown's awesome Killing Joke one is there too.
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Gavok posted:I ended up putting all my Achewood Ruin the Moments together in one post. Maniac Clown's awesome Killing Joke one is there too. Why is Hulk Red?
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Capsaicin posted:Why is Hulk Red? That's Red Hulk, who is a separate character. He's General Ross.
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Now, Don't tell me you can't see this young lady leaning against a Baja behind a McDonalds. This IS Darlene.  http://i.imgur.com/xZULhN0.jpg(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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I don't see it. Darlene's more a person who would look super skeezy regardless of context. And older and also a cat. Edit: Or bear, or whatever the gently caress she's supposed to be. It wasn't until I went about reading Achewood in its entirety that I realized Ray wasn't a bulldog.
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Rollersnake posted:It wasn't until I went about reading Achewood in its entirety that I realized Ray wasn't a bulldog. What are you talking about, of course he's a bulldog!   See, that's Ray right there! Edit: And here he is crying, but not going a-bloo-bloo bloo 
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