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Decided to start watching the show after people in the recommendation thread told me that I should just suck it up and tackle the show. Right now I'm in episode 10 and GODDAMN. Yang Wen-Li has to be one of the best protagonists ever written. He just seems so... believable, you know? I mean, he's not the only one in this show, but he's the one that strikes me as one of the most refreshing lead characters I've ever watched. It kinda pisses me off that I allowed so much time to pass before checking out this epic journey.
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You'll be more pissed off when you finally finish and realise there's no more. And Yang is the best. There are so many brilliant characters to enjoy, though.
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May 20, 2013 01:26
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Wark Say posted:Decided to start watching the show after people in the recommendation thread told me that I should just suck it up and tackle the show. Right now I'm in episode 10 and GODDAMN. If you liked Yang, you'll love the Rosenritter and every time we get to hear the anthem.
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May 20, 2013 02:38
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Takes No Damage posted:Right, as far as I've ever heard anything at a higher than DVD resolution is simply an upscale from said DVD source. For a niche anime OVA from the late 80s/mid 90s 480p is as good as it's going to get, there's no going back and rescanning from the source like they're doing with Star Trek: TNG. If you've got Central Anime's DVD releases of everything you should be all set. Well... no. They certainly could scan the film (and upscale the redrawn bits) at a higher resolution and get more detail out of it. This is nothing like the TNG issue. I prefer the BD rips in general, because the DVDs have a weird hosed yellow tint, and mpeg-2 has never done any video any favors, but the difference is definitely minimal compared with a well done BD release. Aside from the movies. The movies did get a full rescan, so absolutely replace them one and all.
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May 20, 2013 07:45
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AzraelNewtype posted:Well... no. They certainly could scan the film (and upscale the redrawn bits) at a higher resolution and get more detail out of it. This is nothing like the TNG issue. I prefer the BD rips in general, because the DVDs have a weird hosed yellow tint, and mpeg-2 has never done any video any favors, but the difference is definitely minimal compared with a well done BD release. The issue he's talking about is it's a niche anime, despite our love for it, and it's incredibly unlikely that they would ever rescan it, especially since the blurays were already put out just as upscales. This is as opposed to TNG which is pretty huge worldwide.
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May 20, 2013 07:48
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And wasn't there something with the cgi they used for a lot of the ship / fleet movements that they can't upscale in the same way as the cell animation? I wouldn't expect them to have kept all the original resources anyway. Lucky the show is so drat good it could have been done in ASCII and I'd still recommend it. vvv I didn't know CB had bluray... unless you're just talking about the movie. Was still sure there was some additional complication with the ship footage. Takes No Damage fucked around with this message at 00:31 on May 21, 2013 |
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May 21, 2013 00:20
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Takes No Damage posted:And wasn't there something with the cgi they used for a lot of the ship / fleet movements that they can't upscale in the same way as the cell animation? I wouldn't expect them to have kept all the original resources anyway. Lucky the show is so drat good it could have been done in ASCII and I'd still recommend it. It's from 1989, I'm fairly certain there's no CGI for those sequences. You're thinking of the issues Bebop had to get to BD.
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May 21, 2013 00:24
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A few years ago, I started the second season of Legend of Galactic Heroes and then stopped because the subs were pretty awful. I stopped around Yang Wen-Li's inquiry, since the unnatural flow and vocabulary was jarring enough to make me feel illiterate. Even worse, the older subs stripped out much of the personality and mannerisms of the chracters, making quite a few of them blur together. Believe me, it was rather disheartening to stop since the first season had me hooked. But thanks to this thread, I gave LoGH a second chance since I just learned of the existence of the Central Anime subs. The improvement is clear-cut (e.g. Mittermeyer is known as "he who is swift as a wolf" in the original subs and "The Gale Wolf" in the Central Anime subs. Proper noun and everything,) and strong enough to completely enhance my enjoyment of the series. Anyways, I would like to thank the fantastic OP for reintroducing me to what became one of my favorite sci-fi works of any medium, anime or not. Necronomoticon fucked around with this message at 13:40 on May 21, 2013 |
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May 21, 2013 13:36
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I keep forgetting that Man of Wax made the original OP. I wonder whatever happened to him, he was a pretty prolific poster and then just stopped one day, right?
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May 21, 2013 13:40
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Radiocarbon posted:A few years ago, I started the second season of Legend of Galactic Heroes and then stopped because the subs were pretty awful. I stopped around Yang Wen-Li's inquiry, since the unnatural flow and vocabulary was jarring enough to make me feel illiterate. Even worse, the older subs stripped out much of the personality and mannerisms of the chracters, making quite a few of them blur together. You were watching hong kong subs, translated from japanese to chinese to borderline english by bootleggers. That might have been your problem.
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May 21, 2013 18:22
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KNITS MY FEEDS posted:If you liked Yang, you'll love the Rosenritter and every time we get to hear the anthem. THIS. loving. SHOW You were so right. Reinhardto-sama has nothing on Yang Wen-Li and the 13th fleet, but especially on the Knights of the Rose. I'm gonna start practicing my drawing again and, once I get proficient enough, I'm gonna make a poster of Colonel Schönkopf. 
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May 24, 2013 23:50
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Wark Say posted:THIS. loving. SHOW I wish there was an appropriate crying flag emoticon for how correct your posting is.
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May 24, 2013 23:56
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Von Schenkopp is the best character in any
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May 26, 2013 19:34
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I had not noticed (well, not outside WAKAMOTO), but some of the actors voicing these characters were (or still are, in some cases) really among the best. I had not paid that much attention until now (since the music is so enchanting even when I'm doing normal chores around the house / studio), but today I stopped to watch the credits since there was some narration on one of the two episodes I last saw on Friday and a few names that I could recognize even without pausing the video player really jumped at me: - The guy who voiced CHAR AZNABLE - The guy who currently voices Kakashi and did Kars - JOHANN LIEBERT  While I know that Shuichi Ikeda and Kazuhiko Inoue were already veterans on this, the fact that Nozomu Sasaki was on this kinda blows my mind. He was probably around Julian's age when he started voicing him, right?
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May 27, 2013 03:35
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I know I have extolled the presence of Yang Wen-Li and the Rosen Ritter as a welcome refreshment to the usual anime characters I watch and whatnot, but the latest episode really grabbed my heart and kicked it on its little crotch. KIRCHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIS!  I'm kinda bummed how this series, despite the very real treatment it gives to war (and all that encompasses), it still makes you feel for the little guy, but then that happens.
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Jun 2, 2013 00:42
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Captain Invictus posted:When this thread was first made, I had been registered less than three months. The US economy was still going fairly strong, though on its way to disaster. Saddam Hussein was still alive. Justin Beiber was a mere ten-years-old boy, not yet gracing the music frontier with his presence. It's such a great goddamn show, though. Think it's time for a rewatch!
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Jun 12, 2013 00:48
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It's still all kosher to ask for an online source on this thing, right? Because I've got the crappy subs, and I'd love good ones. VVVV Thanks! You can all start chanting "One of us" now, if you want. VanSandman fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Jun 12, 2013 |
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Jun 12, 2013 02:27
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VanSandman posted:It's still all kosher to ask for an online source on this thing, right? Because I've got the crappy subs, and I'd love good ones. Fellow goon (and awesome guy) DamnGlitch has you covered  DamnGlitch posted:You are Loooking In the Wrong Place: http://bakabt.me/163344-legend-of-the-galactic-heroes-ginga-eiyuu-densetsu-bd-h264-720p-10bit-aac.html
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Jun 12, 2013 02:31
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Always glad to use my powers of spacetime to answer questions months in advance! Coincidentally enough I responded basically the same thing an hour earlier but apparently awful . app chose not send it. The BDs rips are upscaled (well, more that the BDs themselves are upsacaled) so if the size is intimidating feel no shame getting the DVD rips, they are almost as good, if not pretty much the same. DamnGlitch fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Jun 12, 2013 |
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Jun 12, 2013 03:34
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Uznare posted:It's from 1989, I'm fairly certain there's no CGI for those sequences. You're thinking of the issues Bebop had to get to BD. No, he's right that the new footage for the DVD release is CG, but it's easily the minority. A competent upscale of those scenes with a rescan of the film would definitely be an improvement, but there's no getting around the fact that some of it needs upscaling, unless you want to go back to the original LD/VHS footage that they replaced.
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Jun 12, 2013 03:57
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AzraelNewtype posted:No, he's right that the new footage for the DVD release is CG, but it's easily the minority. A competent upscale of those scenes with a rescan of the film would definitely be an improvement, but there's no getting around the fact that some of it needs upscaling, unless you want to go back to the original LD/VHS footage that they replaced. I would kill for a proper rescan of the original footage but considering the BDs have already been out for years I really don't expect we will ever see that. That's an expensive rear end project for such a large and, uhm, not mega hit show.
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Jun 12, 2013 04:20
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I saw people posting screencaps of this in the DnD Pictures Thread a while back and it provoked me to check out this thread, and since this thread made getting the show easy I hopped right in. It took a few episodes to really get into it, but since about episode 7 I've been loving hooked (Schenkopp  ). I just finished episode 26. After the whole Westerland incident, Oberstein's actions to take charge, secure Reinhard's position in what would be a very vulnerable time, and snap him out of his mourning made me think he's at least well-intentioned, even if he knowingly plays the bad guy in the process. I liked him a bit more after this episode. I was pretty relieved, too, that at least when Kircheis died, it was before him and Reinhard could be driven apart permanently - they were bros to the end. It softened the blow somewhat...until the end of the episode. I just lost it at Mein Freund. Holy poo poo
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Pornographic Memory posted:I saw people posting screencaps of this in the DnD Pictures Thread a while back and it provoked me to check out this thread, and since this thread made getting the show easy I hopped right in. It took a few episodes to really get into it, but since about episode 7 I've been loving hooked (Schenkopp I love Oberstein and he's definitely one of my favourite characters in the series. The best part about Oberstein is shown in one of the last episodes of the series where he either deliberately plans his death (thereby allowing the Empire to unite and flourish) or makes a miscalculation and dies in foiling an assassination attempt on Reinhard. He's clearly one of the Empire's greatest assets despite being so hated by the upper leadership but even in death the other generals and even the narrator are unsure of what to make of him.
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Jun 18, 2013 06:01
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Maybe spoilers? For after the halfway mark The first half of the series I was like "OBERSTEiN  " (all the while loving him for being OBERSTEIN ) but it's made vary obvious that for all his methods, he legitimately wants the very best for the galaxy. He's almost like the spock of LoGH
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Jun 18, 2013 07:06
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DamnGlitch posted:Maybe spoilers? For after the halfway mark The first half of the series I was like "OBERSTEiN This is what I love about Oberstein though. I don't think even he understands his own character We know that he's a stable force in the Empire and an incredibly efficient and capable administrator but he allows himself to be killed without any succession planning thereby robbing the Empire of one of it's biggest assets. While he's not a fan of the former Empire with their laws regarding genetic purity, since he himself has genetic problems with his eyes, I don't think he's particularly loyal to the New Empire either. He's not well liked by Reinhard himself and he's actually openly despised by his peers despite all the work that he does. On top of that I think there were several scenes where he deliberately withholds information despite the fact that it could have been useful to the other generals. We know that he's also not particularly loyal since he approached Reinhard and then later betrayed his superiors for a place in Reinhard's forces so he strikes me as someone too cynical to have a goal like to serve the galaxy or further humanity. He's an incredibly complex character and I still can't decide if he was loyal albeit misunderstood or whether he was just an extremely capable opportunist.
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Jun 18, 2013 08:01
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I've started rewatching this now that I have access to the BDs and oh my, I had completely forgot about the PKC attacking Yang's home, in the Officer's quarters, with *live grenades*. Well that and a certain someone's -Narcissistic as all hell- home:  You'd think he'd stop at one gigantic painting of himself  (And considering the quality of the paintings, it seems like a George W. Bush situation of self-artistry)
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Jun 20, 2013 20:36
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Pimpmust posted:I've started rewatching this now that I have access to the BDs and oh my, I had completely forgot about the PKC attacking Yang's home, in the Officer's quarters, with *live grenades*. When I first watched LoGH I was astounded at how on the nose it was about post 9/11 america. It would be a parody if it didn't predate it by like 15 years
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Jun 20, 2013 23:16
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DamnGlitch posted:When I first watched LoGH I was astounded at how on the nose it was about post 9/11 america. It would be a parody if it didn't predate it by like 15 years Yeah, it's kind of eerie sometimes. I don't know how anybody could watch this today and see the FPA's invasion planning where they say they'll be greeted as liberators without thinking of the build up to Iraq, for example.
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Jun 20, 2013 23:52
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Pornographic Memory posted:Yeah, it's kind of eerie sometimes. I don't know how anybody could watch this today and see the FPA's invasion planning where they say they'll be greeted as liberators without thinking of the build up to Iraq, for example. Basically:  (anyone know if the German there is correct or not? Lord knows they screwed up English enough, I'd bet their German isn't much better)
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Jun 21, 2013 03:55
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It's pretty accurate. I think you might have to capitalize the last word since it's being used like a noun, and it might come off as a little clumsy because it sounds more like colloquial speech rather than a literary quote/statement. Really minor things.
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Jun 21, 2013 04:55
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Takes No Damage posted:I was already all Quoting myself (again) from December 2011. There was also some talk about the unemployment rate/economy in the FPA which is basically the 99% movement. Does that make Trunicht loyalists analogous to the Tea Party? I know a lot of these aren't exactly unique social issues but as I get older and am able to look back on more history that I actually experienced it really is freaky just how much our deeds remain the same...
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Jun 21, 2013 08:00
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Here's a dumb question: is this the oldest thread on all of SA? On another part of the forums, a goon posted this: iyaayas01 posted:Paraphrasing Field Marshal Moltke, there are four kinds of officers: smart and lazy, smart and energetic, dumb and lazy, and dumb and energetic. Smart and lazy officers should be made generals, as their combination of intelligence and natural laziness allows them to discover the easiest and simplest solution to a problem. Smart and energetic officers should be made staff officers for the smart and lazy generals, as they have the drive and intelligence to put together all the products that the smart and lazy generals need to devise the easiest solution to a problem. Dumb and lazy officers are harmless, they are idiots but they don't do anything so they can be ignored. Dumb and energetic officers are a cancer on an organization and must be eliminated at all costs because they do nothing but create irrelevant work for everyone. Anyway, I had to share as I realize now Yang is almost a arch-type of a good general according to this.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Here's a dumb question: is this the oldest thread on all of SA? I asked about this in A/T a few weeks ago, and the SA Mart feedback thread is from 2002. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=140694
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Jun 22, 2013 03:58
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Don't forget to get your legendary uguu figurines http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?scode=FIG-COL-5639
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Jun 22, 2013 07:00
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Kweh posted:Don't forget to get your legendary uguu figurines http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?scode=FIG-COL-5639 where is my rosenritter set?! 
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Pornographic Memory posted:Yeah, it's kind of eerie sometimes. I don't know how anybody could watch this today and see the FPA's invasion planning where they say they'll be greeted as liberators without thinking of the build up to Iraq, for example. I was thinking exactly this when reading the above posts. You could so easily be forgiven for thinking Andrew Fork was some sort of parody of the Bush administration if you didn't know the show was a decade too old for that. I think much of the show's relevance comes from how honestly it portrays the strengths and shortcomings of both democratic and autocratic regimes. Beyond the awesome space battles and utterly ridiculous Rosenritter shenanigans are some pretty enlightening socio-political ideas.
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ChaosSamusX posted:I was thinking exactly this when reading the above posts. You could so easily be forgiven for thinking Andrew Fork was some sort of parody of the Bush administration if you didn't know the show was a decade too old for that. I think much of the show's relevance comes from how honestly it portrays the strengths and shortcomings of both democratic and autocratic regimes. Beyond the awesome space battles and utterly ridiculous Rosenritter shenanigans are some pretty enlightening socio-political ideas. On the other hand, one of Yang's hobby horses is that terrorism can't change the path of history... that doesn't line up particularly well with what's been going on in the last twelve years.
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Jun 24, 2013 07:23
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Miles Vorkosigan posted:(anyone know if the German there is correct or not? Lord knows they screwed up English enough, I'd bet their German isn't much better) It's very close, as has been said you'd want to capitalize Gleiche. The other thing is that you have to change one more thing for the whole male/female/neutrum thing the german language has going on. Zu jeder Zeit, an jedem Ort bleibt das Tun der Menschen das Gleiche.
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Under 15 posted:On the other hand, one of Yang's hobby horses is that terrorism can't change the path of history... that doesn't line up particularly well with what's been going on in the last twelve years. That line really resonated with me and I interpreted it as "Terrorism cannot bring about progressive, positive ideas, therefore it cannot advance history." Events can happen, people can die, and leadership can be transferred; but if it does not promote sociocultural evolution in the form of an ultimate government (democracy), then it doesn't really change history. At least that's what it looks like to me from Yang's perspective. Man, I need to rewatch this show (again).
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I have started to watch this show due to this thread, drat, it's so good  Totally didn't expect the death of Siegfred so early.
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