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MassRafTer posted:By the time Smackdown got going you probably could add ECW on TNN into that mix, but by that point I had cooled off watching Thunder every week and only rarely watched Smackdown. I actually watched ECW on a local cable network that eventually became PAX or something.
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21 Hoot Salute posted:I just found out that Buff Bagwell's wife is named Judy. the ultimate swerve
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Well, Buff Bagwell did always have a pretty thin beard.
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I want to say in 1999 I maxed out with Raw, Nitro, Thunder, Smackdown, ECW, Saturday morning WWE (Jakked or Metal, I can't remember), WCW Saturday night, the Sunday morning WWE recap show, Heat, and whatever PPV was on. I didn't always watch ECW, so that wasn't quite every week, but I did this schedule on more than a few occasions before WCW Saturday night was the first fatality. If you go back and look at later WCW Saturday night matches you'll find the absolute jobbiest of job guys (and also Sharkboy).
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fatherdog posted:I actually watched ECW on a local cable network that eventually became PAX or something. I remember watching ECW on PASS Sports at like 2 am on the weekend with Joey Styles and Rick Rude on commentary.
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Q_res posted:I remember watching ECW on PASS Sports at like 2 am on the weekend with Joey Styles and Rick Rude on commentary. PASS Sports! Back in the day, my dad used to tape every Red Wings game, and just let the tapes run. I've probably got a lot of ECW footage in my closet somewhere, on VHS.
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ChampRamp posted:If you go back and look at later WCW Saturday night matches you'll find the absolute jobbiest of job guys (and also Sharkboy). Sadly, "The Mothership" really began to fall off in its final years. Well, a combination of falling off and having incredible poo poo that existed in a literal vacuum (Hole-In-One Darsow!) also they basically buried Dusty over there and let him slobber all over the mic, that was okay (now I wanna go watch the YouTube vid of him flipping out over the BICYCLE)
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nasboat posted:Sadly, "The Mothership" really began to fall off in its final years. Well, a combination of falling off and having incredible poo poo that existed in a literal vacuum (Hole-In-One Darsow!) WCW Saturday Night was legitimately one of my favorite wrestling shows of all time. A solid hour of wrestling with no Bischoff or Hogan yammering on about nothing for 20 minutes, and Meng would Tongan Death Grip a shitload of people for no reason. It was also a good mix of old pros and guys you didn't see too often, and then you'd randomly have upper midcarders putting on awesome matches with random guys for fun, just because they could. I never missed an episode.
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In my most obsessed days, I would watch: 2 hours of Raw 3 hours Nitro 2 hours Thunder 2 hours Smackdown WCW Worldwide WCW Pro WCW Main Event WCW Saturday Night WWF Jakked WWF Metal WWF Sunday Night HeAT WWF Superstars WWF Livewire ECW on TNN Along with basically anything else I could get hold of. WOW: Women of Wrestling, WXO, the first place I saw Johnny Ace and THAT promo, and various random local promotions that would pop up here and there. I... kind of had a problem. 18+ hours in a week is too loving much wrestling for any human being. Especially consider that Jakked and Metal were the SAME SHOW, only with different announce teams and Metal was PG rated so they would bleep the word rear end and stuff. Then, to complete the cliche that is my life, I got a girlfriend and never looked back.
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My favorite Saturday Night memory is Norman Smiley (before he became a comedy guy and was just a jobber) promised Sting that he had his back going into Starrcade 97. Ok Norman, that will really tip the balance!
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MassRafTer posted:My favorite Saturday Night memory is Norman Smiley (before he became a comedy guy and was just a jobber) promised Sting that he had his back going into Starrcade 97. Ok Norman, that will really tip the balance! Does that mean that Norman Smiley is the only person never to have turned on Sting?
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Yo Eleven posted:Does that mean that Norman Smiley is the only person never to have turned on Sting? Norman never ran out to guard Sting's corner from an nWo attack, and Bret Hart had to come out instead to save the day much to Sting's disappointment. Norman broke his heart that day.
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DrVenkman posted:It sucks that we never really had WCW in the UK. We had like this weekly 'International' show that was supposedly largely just out of date anyway. The only time I ever got to see it was just some random showings we'd get sometimes. Hell TNA is shown more consistently than WCW ever was. In the Netherlands Cartoon Network/TNT Classic Movies had a friday spot where they aired the international show (1 hr recap), it quickly switched to all of Nitro and eventually we got Nitro and Thunder back to back. They suddenly stopped doing this and then I found that the only wrestling i could regularly watch was NJPW on eurosport.
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I think the Cartoon Network/WCW crossover sounds familiar so I'm guessing when I did see it that was probably where. It's like how CNN show an International version of The Daily Show. It's just odd. So it's a dumb question, but why did William Regal originally go by Steven Regal, I know most wrestlers change their names but it seems so perfunctory. Also, that American Males theme just doesn't leave your head.
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DrVenkman posted:So it's a dumb question, but why did William Regal originally go by Steven Regal, I know most wrestlers change their names but it seems so perfunctory. He chose Steven Regal at first, but found out someone else was using the name before him, so when he came to WWE, he saw a chance to change the name again.
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VogeGandire posted:He chose Steven Regal at first, but found out someone else was using the name before him, so when he came to WWE, he saw a chance to change the name again. I'd assumed that would've been the case. He also looks better now than he did then as well, which I'll put down to him having eventually stopped drinking. Weirdest thing so far about these old Nitro's is the commercials that the uploader has occasionally decided to leave in. I've seen 3 adverts for Batman Forever and a horrific looking George Foreman boxing game. What surprised me was the SNES was still running in 95, for some reason I assumed the PS1 was out by then. Actually checking Wikipedia it turns out that the PS1 was released in the States that very month. September 95 was truly a landmark month.
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Chrono Trigger came out in August of 95, so yeah, the SNES was still pretty huge.
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DreamingApe posted:In the Netherlands Cartoon Network/TNT Classic Movies had a friday spot where they aired the international show (1 hr recap), it quickly switched to all of Nitro and eventually we got Nitro and Thunder back to back. I swear we had this in the UK, before TNT turned into Bravo and possibly after the switch too. And ECW was randomly on the SciFi channel. I used to watch Nitro waiting for Raw to come on Sky Sports on Friday nights, confused as poo poo about what was supposed to be going on because I didn't follow it closely enough and as far as I'm aware we never got WCW PPVs here.
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Grab Meatcastle posted:I swear we had this in the UK, before TNT turned into Bravo and possibly after the switch too. And ECW was randomly on the SciFi channel. I used to watch Nitro waiting for Raw to come on Sky Sports on Friday nights, confused as poo poo about what was supposed to be going on because I didn't follow it closely enough and as far as I'm aware we never got WCW PPVs here. We never did. Also there was a kid in school who insisted that WWF was real and WCW was the fake one. It was in fact so fake that when they'd throw a punch someone would bang a drum to signify a hit.
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jeffersonlives posted:It was a rotating column called "Death by Thunder" or something like that. It usually involved alcohol. You wouldn't happen to still have this up somewhere online, would you?
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DrVenkman posted:What surprised me was the SNES was still running in 95, for some reason I assumed the PS1 was out by then. I've been watching old nitros too. Just watched the episode where Scott Hall debuts and there's a playstation slogan i have never heard before in there, "Killer of Hopes, Smasher of Egos." There's no record of that slogan being used on any like "slogan list" or wikipedia or whatever, and the only references to it I can find are a couple guys' signatures on a couple video game forums/rspw and a broken, old fantasy booking angelfire. Its a bizarre thing with no footprint. I thought I was making it up/mishearing it at first. Its here, part of the replay at the end of a Regal match https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wLciw2WPAw&t=458s Big Dave fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Jun 22, 2013 |
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RZApublican posted:You wouldn't happen to still have this up somewhere online, would you? God no.
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Grab Meatcastle posted:And ECW was randomly on the SciFi channel. That's called foreshadowing.
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Say what you want about Bischoff on the mic, but early on the dude was so stoked to be on the TV and was good at hyping up the show. I'm not warming up to McMichael though, he's like a worse Jesse Ventura.
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DrVenkman posted:Say what you want about Bischoff on the mic, but early on the dude was so stoked to be on the TV and was good at hyping up the show. I'm not warming up to McMichael though, he's like a worse Jesse Ventura. Mongo is amazing 
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DrVenkman posted:We never did. You could watch WCW PPVs on German channels with old analog satellite. First WCW I ever saw was the Blitzkrieg vs Juvi match on whichever PPV that was while hunting for softcore German porn after my parents had gone to bed. I have no idea if they were live but I saw a few like that back then. edit, couldn't have been live since it must have been either Friday or Saturday nights. Right after red shoe diaries on bravo Zoobtro fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Jun 23, 2013 |
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crankdatbatman posted:Secondly, is there anyone out there outside of Vince Russo himself who genuinely enjoyed WCW in 99-2000? I started watching wrestling with WCW in late 99, and I enjoyed since I didn't know anything about the WWF at the time. I quickly switched to almost fully watching the WWF at a friend's recommendation, though, and didn't really turn back outside of the first hour of Nitro. I remember that there was a lot of enthusiasm and optimism around that time, even leading up to the final episode of Nitro, even though folks would deny it now. People thought that the idea of elevating WCW's younger talent was great and things like the Millionaire's Club v. New Blood was on the right track. A lot of that enthusiasm and optimism went down the shitter as soon as the Radicalz made the jump from WCW to WWE. That, to me, was where basically everyone except for the most die-hard loyalist types really stopped giving a poo poo about WCW. poo poo like Bash at the Beach 2000 were significant events and considered 'major blows' to WCW, but I'd argue with Benoit et al. making the jump when they did, that was when fans really gave up on WCW.
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So it's a weird thing, the start of Nitro has the angle where Luger arrives and wants the belt but so much of it is instead built around Sting and everyone else. They all just talk about Luger and when Luger does talk it's mainly Jimmy Heart that's doing it. He's a main part of the angle but kind of...not. I'm largely assuming it's down to his less than good mic skills, but it's still amusing to see. Also, take a drink every time Sting says "My best friend Lex Luger."
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Raeg posted:From what I remember, I was probably watching 6-7ish hours in a row on a Friday night in the UK. TNT used to air Nitro, followed right away by Thunder and once they wrapped up, the midnight repeat of Raw came on. I grew up in Croatia, but we had Sky in most major cities, as cable TV providers would simply offer you a selection of satellite channels - via cable. Sky One and Sky Movies were available before they became scrambled, and said cable providers were dodgy, so they didn't offer you packages or subscriptions or anything, what they got in their feed was what they would offer you. Anyway, Sky was how I discovered wrestling and the WWF. But I used to watch Nitro on TNT, every Friday at 8 or 9 pm, after Cartoon Network went of the air. At first, it was a one hour edited Nitro, later on they started showing full episodes, and added Thunder as well. Was Thunder on Fridays as well? German channels were good for the WWF, as well as ECW and WCW, bit it was weird to keep track of everything because they were all a couple of weeks behind and edited differently. Sky was unavailable. These days, I'm happy I can finally watch old episodes of Raw and SmackDown in English. Learned a lot of German just from watching TV, but I'd always have to turn the volume up during promos so I'd hear what people were actually saying.
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Jesus Christ. I'm only onto January '96 of Nitro and every single main event has ended with run-ins, I can see why people started booing Hogan fairly quickly, in fact I'm pretty sure they were booing him by this point (and of course he was still getting cheers). I've thought about writing recaps of this era but I don't know that I could really do it, it's only the undercard stuff that's really any fun. Also, I don't know how loving old these guys are, but the constant mentions of "You're my friend!" is some real kids stuff. For some reason they just advertised that WCW Saturday Night has an exclusive interview with...Jim Belushi.
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DrVenkman posted:Jesus Christ. I'm only onto January '96 of Nitro and every single main event has ended with run-ins, I can see why people started booing Hogan fairly quickly, in fact I'm pretty sure they were booing him by this point (and of course he was still getting cheers). I've thought about writing recaps of this era but I don't know that I could really do it, it's only the undercard stuff that's really any fun. Also, I don't know how loving old these guys are, but the constant mentions of "You're my friend!" is some real kids stuff. Just wait for the promos for the interview with Ditka!
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One of my favorite moments during the time we've been watching Nitro on PSP TV was the episode where Lex Luger camped out in front of the arena before getting a WCW world title shot. Like he was waiting for concert tickets to go on sale or some poo poo. What a weird principle to gain a title shot by. Imagine if WWE worked this way: "Vickie, I lost my title to Daniel Bryan last night and I'd like to invoke my rematch clause!" "Well, I'd like to give you your title match John, but Heath Slater asked first. And you know the rules..."
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Does anyone remember a guy called Hail on WCW Saturday Night in early 2000? If I remember rightly he was a jacked up bald guy who was managed by Jimmy Hart for some reason, and he squashed people in like a minute and beat them with a Piledriver. He was a bad version of Goldberg and only appeared on that show, then he promptly disappeared and was never heard from again. I think this was when Jimmy Hart was booking Saturday Night and was told to do whatever he wanted as long as it didn't interfere with Nitro and Thunder. Anyway I have no idea what reminded me of him, I have a feeling lying in bed not being able to sleep while thinking about WCW jobbers is not all that normal.
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Perdido posted:I remember that there was a lot of enthusiasm and optimism around that time, even leading up to the final episode of Nitro, even though folks would deny it now. People thought that the idea of elevating WCW's younger talent was great and things like the Millionaire's Club v. New Blood was on the right track. The Radicalz left a few months before the New Blood vs. Millionaire's club storyline, and everyone on the interweb loving hated the New Blood vs. Millionaire's club and the ratings were in the toilet. I think you might be thinking of the period in late 1999, during Russo's first run when the ratings actually went up a little and most of the Radicalz were in this group called the Revolution. That period was kind of OK because they turfed out Hogan, and the put the title on Bret Hart. Like you still had a lot of Russo bullshit, but at least there was still a lot of talent floating around.
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Hail was repackaged as the machine. If you look back a page or so you'll discover that didn't work out too well for him.
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Zack_Gochuck posted:The Radicalz left a few months before the New Blood vs. Millionaire's club storyline, and everyone on the interweb loving hated the New Blood vs. Millionaire's club and the ratings were in the toilet. I think you might be thinking of the period in late 1999, during Russo's first run when the ratings actually went up a little and most of the Radicalz were in this group called the Revolution. That period was kind of OK because they turfed out Hogan, and the put the title on Bret Hart. Like you still had a lot of Russo bullshit, but at least there was still a lot of talent floating around. The reboot episode got a semi favorable reaction at first because it was a direction and a LOT of poo poo happened which is enough for a wait and see. That sentiment quickly went south. Even Meltzer gave the first episode the benefit of the doubt.
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That was a repackaged Emory Hale. WCW kept trying to recreate Goldberg with diminishing returns; their most successful was taking Wrath (Bryan Clark/Adam Bomb) out of the Glacier Blood Runs Cold stuff and giving him like four months of squashes in a row, but as soon as he was starting to get over Nash jackknifed him back to opening matches.
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