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veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


...of SCIENCE! posted:

According to his biography, Steve Jobs was ridiculously pissed off at the fact that after spending all this time obsessing over the design of the iPhone people were just slapping clunky, garish cases onto it and ruining it.

I had heard that somewhere. That's pretty funny. To be fair Job's isn't entirely without blame though. The fist 6 or so years of iPod's turned into a scratched up lovely looking mess if you sneezed in their general direction, so by the time the iPhone came out people were pretty used to putting cases on their iCrap.

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

NESguerilla posted:

I had heard that somewhere. That's pretty funny. To be fair Job's isn't entirely without blame though. The fist 6 or so years of iPod's turned into a scratched up lovely looking mess if you sneezed in their general direction, so by the time the iPhone came out people were pretty used to putting cases on their iCrap.

Jobs put form over function too much. Form is important, and lots of companies miss that and Apple gets it in spades, but they overemphasize it.

Putting a giant piece of glass on the back of the iPhone that is completely unnecessary and exists only to break is terrible loving engineering. I don't care if the glass looks slick. The back should be made of aluminum or rubber; there's no screen there, so there's no reason for glass.

Zaphod42 has a new favorite as of 19:12 on Jun 26, 2013

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Zaphod42 posted:

Jobs put form over function too much. Form is important, and lots of companies miss that and Apple gets it in spades, but they overemphasize it.

Putting a giant piece of glass on the back of the iPhone that is completely unnecessary and exists only to break is terrible loving engineering. I don't care if the glass looks slick. The back should be made of aluminum or rubber; there's no screen there, so there's no reason for glass.



Luckily they solved this with the iPhone 5. Mostly.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


TheJoker138 posted:

Luckily they solved this with the iPhone 5. Mostly.
Seems relevant...http://www.theonion.com/video/new-iphone-geared-towards-collegeaged-girls-comes,30769/

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Zaphod42 posted:

Putting a giant piece of glass on the back of the iPhone that is completely unnecessary and exists only to break is terrible loving engineering. I don't care if the glass looks slick. The back should be made of aluminum or rubber; there's no screen there, so there's no reason for glass.

Actually, there's a perfectly good reason to have a piece of glass there, especially if its purpose is to break: because it effectively creates a crumple zone that takes all the energy out of it being dropped on concrete, and is quick and easy (and cheap) to replace as opposed to having the same things happen to the internal circuitry or the touch screen. Aluminium may crumple well enough, but will it eat up as much energy? And rubber makes the thing look like a bargain-bin chew toy rather than a high-end piece of personal electronics, so sacrificial glass it is…


…in theory. Whether it actually works is a different story.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
I know I'm contributing to a stupid derail but one of the primary reasons behind the glass back was for (multiple kinds of) antenna reception.

That's also the entire reason behind the black plastic panels on the original iPhone/most iPod touch models/cellular-enabled iPads and part of the logic behind the plastic shells on the 3g/3gs.

Someone at Apple (probably Jobs and/or Ive) wanted something fancier than plastic for the 4 and they went with glass to arguably positive results- since the number of people who've owned one of these phones without incident is probably several orders of magnitude larger than the number of people who've shattered theirs (yeah yeah, protective cases and whatever...).

This is also why the iPhone 5 has those ceramic/glass panels in the back. There are antennas behind them.

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.

Rudager posted:

I keep mine in my top pocket, because otherwise I don't hear it when I'm wondering around the factory.

And when I invariably end up climbing/jumping over things, under things, up things, it always falls out and smashes on the ground.

You should pledge to my kickstarter then, it's called the pocket plummet preventer. Basically it's just a strip of velcro with double sided sticky tape on the back, you put in inside the top of your pocket so you can seal it up after you put your phone in, but without the need for an unsightly button or zipper. Ten bucks will get you 5 Pocket Plummet Preventers, which is only about a 1000% markup compared to just buying half a yard of sticky backed velcro at Joanns, but those pitch videos don't pay for themselves you know!


(what I'm saying is, put velcro in the tops of your pockets so your phone doesn't keep falling out)

Nnep
Jun 17, 2007

3-2 2-0
I dare a nerd to come up to me with this pocket velcro bullshit, talking about supporting kickstarters on the 'internet'

Elissia
Dec 28, 2012

That velcro thing, uh... could probably actually make it on the site. (If it hasn't already)
I don't know if this is a sad thing or a hilarious thing yet though.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
A fun update about a not-awful Kickstarter project, Ryan North (of Dinosaur Comics fame) had a Kickstarter project for a Choose-your-own-adventure version of Hamlet called To Be Or Not To Be: That Is The Adventure which originally had a $20,000 goal and he offered to sign every physical copy sold. People ended up pledging over half a million bucks and the poor son of a bitch just spent several days signing over 13,000 books.

Look at all these fuckin' books.


He wore a wrist guard and had a system where he'd sign a box of 14 books at a time, take a quick break, sign another boxful etc etc so he didn't gently caress up his hand. He also had a guy from the shipping company who'd unpack and repack the boxes for him and together they'd go through 30 boxes of books every hour.
Apparently the Guinness World Record for Most Books Signed In A Single Session is 1951 books and Ryan signed 4340 on one day alone.


The lesson is: cutesy pledge rewards can seem like a fun idea at the start of a project but holy gently caress can they come back and bite you on the rear end. His $500,000 stretch reward was that he would literally explode and he ended up having a model of his head created on a 3D printer and blowing that up. :v:

I'm still waiting for him to complete the $450,000 stretch reward and eat a pizza shaped like Hamlet. :colbert:

Snowglobe of Doom has a new favorite as of 07:51 on Jun 27, 2013

Deep State of Mind
Jul 30, 2006

"It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."
Fun Shoe
For a guy whose claim to fame is having a webcomic so lazy it's literally the exact same, completely unaltered images every day with MSPaint dialog changes, I would never expect him to follow through on those ridiculous promises.

Good on him.

Sigma-X
Jun 17, 2005

Bloodnose posted:

For a guy whose claim to fame is having a webcomic so lazy it's literally the exact same, completely unaltered images every day with MSPaint dialog changes, I would never expect him to follow through on those ridiculous promises.

Good on him.

There is nothing lazy about dinosaur comics. It's just not art-driven.

senrath
Nov 4, 2009

Look Professor, a destruct switch!


Apparently he went through 13 sharpies doing the signing, so each regular sharpie contains about 1,000 Ryan North signatures worth of ink.

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

Bloodnose posted:

For a guy whose claim to fame is having a webcomic so lazy it's literally the exact same, completely unaltered images every day with MSPaint dialog changes, I would never expect him to follow through on those ridiculous promises.

Good on him.
I've also been really pleased by how totally psyched he seems about the whole thing in every update. He really seems to be genuinely amazed by and grateful for the support he got, and that kind of enthusiasm, gratitude, and authenticity is sadly lacking in the majority of the projects I've backed.

cool biRd pics
Aug 28, 2009

you will feel ashamed of your words & deeds

senrath posted:

They still haven't responded to my follow-up message :argh:

See you say that, but can you argue against THIS?

Pastrymancy
Feb 20, 2011

11:13: Despite Gio Gonzalez warning, "Never mix your sparkling juices," Bryce Harper opens another bottle of sparkling grape and mixes it with sparkling cider.

1:07: Harper walks to the 7-11 and orders an all-syrup Slurpee.

1:10-3:05: Harper has no recollection of this time. Aliens?

Bloodnose posted:

For a guy whose claim to fame is having a webcomic so lazy it's literally the exact same, completely unaltered images every day with MSPaint dialog changes, I would never expect him to follow through on those ridiculous promises.

Good on him.

I believe he did the writing for the official Adventure Time comic books as well.

Machai
Feb 21, 2013

Electric Bugaloo posted:

I know I'm contributing to a stupid derail but one of the primary reasons behind the glass back was for (multiple kinds of) antenna reception.

That's also the entire reason behind the black plastic panels on the original iPhone/most iPod touch models/cellular-enabled iPads and part of the logic behind the plastic shells on the 3g/3gs.

Someone at Apple (probably Jobs and/or Ive) wanted something fancier than plastic for the 4 and they went with glass to arguably positive results- since the number of people who've owned one of these phones without incident is probably several orders of magnitude larger than the number of people who've shattered theirs (yeah yeah, protective cases and whatever...).

This is also why the iPhone 5 has those ceramic/glass panels in the back. There are antennas behind them.

Introducing the iTena, kickstarter to launch whenever I get around to it.

No, I did not rip the antenna off an old Nokia and glue it to an iPhone...or did I?

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



senrath posted:

Apparently he went through 13 sharpies doing the signing, so each regular sharpie contains about 1,000 Ryan North signatures worth of ink.
I remember reading that he could've gotten more out of a single sharpie, but it'd take pushing harder and he put his wrist health over saving a couple of bucks on pens.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.
This thread has trained me to expect shittiness from people who run Kickstarters, so I'm pleasantly surprised that he didn't try to find a loophole ("Well, I said my name in sign language at all of the boxes of books, so....")

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Song For The Deaf posted:

This thread has trained me to expect shittiness from people who run Kickstarters, so I'm pleasantly surprised that he didn't try to find a loophole ("Well, I said my name in sign language at all of the boxes of books, so....")

As part of the stretch rewards he'll also be sending a couple hundred free copies of the book to schools and libraries as well as about 2,500 plush Yorick skulls to his donors. They could've made those Yorick skulls teeny tiny but it looks like they're at least the size of a regular skull.
Oh and the book is under a Creative Commons license and they had a live reading of the book for the internet where the audience picked the path etc etc etc.. As Kickstarter projects go it must be pretty much close to exactly how the KS people were hoping the projects would turn out when they created the site.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

Bloodnose posted:

For a guy whose claim to fame is having a webcomic so lazy it's literally the exact same, completely unaltered images every day with MSPaint dialog changes, I would never expect him to follow through on those ridiculous promises.

Good on him.

It sounds lazy at first, but reusing the same art while keeping the writing fresh and funny has to become a challenge after the first few dozen, let alone the two and half thousand he's done over the past decade.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

It sounds lazy at first, but reusing the same art while keeping the writing fresh and funny has to become a challenge after the first few dozen, let alone the two and half thousand he's done over the past decade.

When you put it that way it sounds more like OCD than an art career. :rolleye:

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to4f-i28R_I

You might've already talked about this since it's from last year. It's Melora Creager from Rasputina, original quirky cello band from the 90s and beyond, making fun of dumb Kickstarter ideas.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Hey, remember the KS project from 2011 to build a Robocop statue for Detroit??? Here's the final fabrication that they sent to the metalworks to get molded and cast in bronze:


He's gonna be a big fucker. That photo was taken in May, there hasn't been any further news but they'll probably be installing the final piece sometime soon.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

As part of the stretch rewards he'll also be sending a couple hundred free copies of the book to schools and libraries as well as about 2,500 plush Yorick skulls to his donors. They could've made those Yorick skulls teeny tiny but it looks like they're at least the size of a regular skull.

Holy poo poo its Dead Bob!

Twenty Drunk Apes
Jun 17, 2012

The mane you say? Please note that this is a pity avatar because even bronies feel sorry for this poster so :effort:.

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Hey, remember the KS project from 2011 to build a Robocop statue for Detroit??? Here's the final fabrication that they sent to the metalworks to get molded and cast in bronze:


He's gonna be a big fucker. That photo was taken in May, there hasn't been any further news but they'll probably be installing the final piece sometime soon.

We need an "Awesome Kickstarters" thread for stuff like this.

Of course the moment it gets up it'll probably just become covered in awful spray paint graffiti and chewed gum. :(

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


Twenty Drunk Apes posted:

We need an "Awesome Kickstarters" thread for stuff like this.

Of course the moment it gets up it'll probably just become covered in awful spray paint graffiti and chewed gum. :(

It will be fine if it is at the bottom of a flight of stairs.

Manifest
Jul 7, 2007

HELLO THERE I COME FROM THE FUTURE

Twenty Drunk Apes posted:

We need an "Awesome Kickstarters" thread for stuff like this.

Of course the moment it gets up it'll probably just become covered in awful spray paint graffiti and chewed gum. :(

I'm pretty sure this is the perfect thread for a $67,000 statue of a character from a neo-fascist future version of Detroit being put up in the real world impoverished city of Detroit.

neongrey
Feb 28, 2007

Plaguing your posts with incidental music.

Twenty Drunk Apes posted:

We need an "Awesome Kickstarters" thread for stuff like this.

We have one. Astonishingly, the one about gawking at horrible ideas is far more entertaining.

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



Manifest posted:

I'm pretty sure this is the perfect thread for a $67,000 statue of a character from a neo-fascist future version of Detroit being put up in the real world impoverished city of Detroit.
Well, I mean, the place could use some optimism, right?

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Zereth posted:

Well, I mean, the place could use some optimism, right?

For real though, actual Detroit should BE so lucky as to have a creepy fascist multinational that wants to buy the whole joint. How messed up is it that RoboCop ended up being utopian compared to the real deal?

Did anyone involved with the actual Kickstarter live in/work in /have any connection to Detroit? I mean as much as I love the film, it does seem sort of screwed up if the whole thing from the top down was just outsiders putting up a kitch sculpture in a place they've got no connection to because it was fictionalized in a cool sci-fi film.

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



Otisburg posted:

For real though, actual Detroit should BE so lucky as to have a creepy fascist multinational that wants to buy the whole joint. How messed up is it that RoboCop ended up being utopian compared to the real deal?
Exactly. :smith:

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

It sounds lazy at first, but reusing the same art while keeping the writing fresh and funny has to become a challenge after the first few dozen, let alone the two and half thousand he's done over the past decade.

The one today hypothesizes that Zombies being failed Vampires. :aaaaa:

Manifest posted:

I'm pretty sure this is the perfect thread for a $67,000 statue of a character from a neo-fascist future version of Detroit being put up in the real world impoverished city of Detroit.

Philly had a statue of Rocky Balboa.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Evil Fluffy posted:

Philly had a statue of Rocky Balboa.

Rocky was the story of a working-class Philly underdog making it big.

RoboCop is the story of hyper-facism steamrolling over humanity, cyborg ultraviolence, and exploiting urban decay for profit.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008
Hey, remember that weird-rear end self run crowd funding campaign for the Eternal Darkness pseudo-sequel, and how hosed up Silicon Nights/Precursor Games is? Well, they just got creepier.

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/28/precursor-games-distancing-itself-from-co-founder-following-chil posted:

Precursor Games writer, game designer and artist Ken McCulloch has been arrested by Niagara Regional Police on child pornography possession and distribution charges, Bullet News Niagara reports. Police confiscated a "significant" amount of computer hardware after exercising a search warrant on a home in St. Catharines yesterday.

"Having just learned of these disturbing charges today and based on the serious nature of them, Ken McCulloch is no longer affiliated in any way with Precursor Games," CEO Paul Caporicci said in a statement on the developer's official forums. McCulloch's employee profile has been removed the site, and now directs to a 404 error.

McCulloch is currently in custody while he awaits a bail hearing, Bullet News Niagara reports.

Precursor Games, an independent developer formed from ex-Silicon Knights employees, is generally known for its controversial, unorthodox (and temporarily cancelled) attempts at crowdfunding Shadows of the Eternals, a spiritual successor to Denis Dyack's cult Gamecube classic Eternal Darkness. We've reached out to Precursor Games for comment.

null_user01013
Nov 13, 2000

Drink up comrades

Otisburg posted:

Rocky was the story of a working-class Philly underdog making it big.

RoboCop is the story of hyper-facism steamrolling over humanity, cyborg ultraviolence, and exploiting urban decay for profit.

BUT ROBOCOP FOUGHT THAT!!!! He stopped Nuke and also flew in a jetpack. You gotta pick your battles man, a giant robocop statue is good for the people.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Hey, remember the KS project from 2011 to build a Robocop statue for Detroit??? Here's the final fabrication that they sent to the metalworks to get molded and cast in bronze:


He's gonna be a big fucker. That photo was taken in May, there hasn't been any further news but they'll probably be installing the final piece sometime soon.
Why is this in the Awful Kickstarter thread?

waffle
May 12, 2001
HEH

A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

Hey, remember that weird-rear end self run crowd funding campaign for the Eternal Darkness pseudo-sequel, and how hosed up Silicon Nights/Precursor Games is? Well, they just got creepier.
Whew. That game is just preordained to not get funded.

Jet Jaguar
Feb 12, 2006

Don't touch my bags if you please, Mr Customs Man.



Looking through the Recently Launched or Ending Soon categories can yield some gems.

Just launched: The Biggest Flag Ever, where the only thing that can possibly go wrong with the project is the weather.

Ending soon: A wall-mounted bottle opener, billed as a "forever object."

Also, what is with all of the deck of playing card projects I see lately? They're becoming the new iPod accessory. Though this particular project didn't go through, maybe it was the fabric on the headband...

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Just Burgs
Jan 15, 2011

Gravy Boat 2k

Jet Jaguar posted:

Just launched: The Biggest Flag Ever, where the only thing that can possibly go wrong with the project is the weather.

I absolutely love that $1000 gets you a phone call. No one can doubt this guy's dedication to our American way of life. :911:

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