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Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

I guessed it but I couldn't believe it was ever popular enough to make into the list.

# ? Jun 28, 2013 12:58

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 17:12

Zombywuf: Mar 29, 2008

Symbolic Butt posted:

I guessed it but I couldn't believe it was ever popular enough to make into the list.

It's based off Google searches so D's popularity is boosted by people leaning on their keyboard.

# ? Jun 28, 2013 12:59

Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

# ? Jun 28, 2013 13:00

Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

what about F then?

# ? Jun 28, 2013 13:00

Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

and E

# ? Jun 28, 2013 13:01

Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

gently caress whoever thought giving a single letter name for your programming language was a cool idea

# ? Jun 28, 2013 13:03

Zombywuf: Mar 29, 2008

gently caress whoever thought using one of the most common verbs in the English language for the name of a programming language was a good idea.

# ? Jun 28, 2013 13:04

Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

Zombywuf posted:

gently caress whoever thought using one of the most common verbs in the English language for the name of a programming language was a good idea.

this was the worst thing about playing this game for me

# ? Jun 28, 2013 13:16

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

Zombywuf posted:

gently caress whoever thought using one of the most common verbs in the English language for the name of a programming language was a good idea.

what, Lisp?

# ? Jun 28, 2013 13:20

Zombywuf: Mar 29, 2008

Symbolic Butt posted:

this was the worst thing about playing this game for me

This can at least be useful when you're in the middle of a game and someone disturbs you by asking what you're playing; you can simply turn to them and say "Go!"

# ? Jun 28, 2013 13:48

Squinty Applebottom: Jan 1, 2013

Stringent posted:

what, Lisp?

i think he means J'ing it

# ? Jun 28, 2013 14:24

MORE CURLY FRIES: Apr 8, 2004

digital wizard

# ? Jun 28, 2013 14:24

Janitor Prime: Jan 22, 2004; PC LOAD LETTER

What da fuck does that mean; Fun Shoe

Stringent posted:

what, Lisp?

go, it's so dumb that they had to extraoficially name it golang since no one could just search for go.

# ? Jun 28, 2013 17:15

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

yeah everyone just has to call it golang

# ? Jun 28, 2013 17:17

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

Competitive coders love D

lol

# ? Jun 28, 2013 17:27

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

MeruFM posted:

Competitive coders love the D

lol

u forgot a word

# ? Jun 28, 2013 18:01

b0red: Apr 3, 2013

google is p ruthless when it comes to staying on top of competitive coding.

# ? Jun 28, 2013 18:04

Posting Principle: Dec 10, 2011; by Ralp

i wish c# and wpf existed on every platform :smith:

# ? Jun 28, 2013 19:12

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

Hard NOP Life posted:

go, it's so dumb that they had to extraoficially name it golang since no one could just search for go.

# ? Jun 28, 2013 22:56

Vanadium: Jan 8, 2005

I missed objc because I'm too poor to afford a mac. :geno:

# ? Jun 28, 2013 22:59

Dirk Pitt: Sep 14, 2007; haha yes, this feels good; Toilet Rascal

Jerry SanDisky posted:

i wish c# and wpf existed on every platform

I have unreasonably high hopes for xamarin, but they are trying to make a better iOS designer than Xcode, which quite honestly won't be too hard.

Teched even mentioned xamarin apps will be able to use pcls, which just makes me happy. As a young 26 year old developer, c# sure does appear to be the most satisfying language at present to use.

# ? Jun 29, 2013 17:03

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

bring back display postscript problem solved

# ? Jun 29, 2013 18:09

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

Zombywuf posted:

gently caress whoever thought using one of the most common verbs in the English language for the name of a programming language was a good idea.

otoh if the worst thing about a programming language is the name it's already better than average

# ? Jun 29, 2013 18:13

Workaday Wizard: Oct 23, 2009; by Pragmatica

tef posted:

bring back display postscript problem solved

if it was so good why is it dead?

# ? Jun 29, 2013 18:16

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

if it was so good why is it dead?

i forgot we live in a meritocracy where adoption is driven by excellence and merit, never mind

# ? Jun 29, 2013 18:36

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

if it was so good why is it dead?

i say the same thing about jim morrison

# ? Jun 29, 2013 18:37

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

MeruFM posted:

Competitive coders love D

lol

why

d barely has libraries wtf is it good for

# ? Jun 29, 2013 19:10

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

if it was so good why is it dead?

adobe licensing

# ? Jun 29, 2013 19:10

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

if it was so good why is it dead?

why is php alive?

# ? Jun 29, 2013 19:24

MrMoo: Sep 14, 2000

MeruFM posted:

Competitive coders love D

lol

Facebook loves D for some reason, D and PHP what a combo.

# ? Jun 29, 2013 19:37

uG: Apr 23, 2003; by Ralp

Bloody posted:

why is php alive?

the same reason visual basic lasted so long: retards are cheap labor

# ? Jun 29, 2013 19:55

coaxmetal: Oct 21, 2010; I flamed me own dad

tef posted:

i forgot we live in a meritocracy where adoption is driven by excellence and merit, never mind

its cool that everything is great and only the best versions of things survive, yeah

# ? Jun 29, 2013 21:43

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

why

d barely has libraries wtf is it good for

u don't get to use libraries in competitions maybe it lets u write a for loop in less characters or something

# ? Jun 29, 2013 22:14

Squinty Applebottom: Jan 1, 2013

Ronald Raiden posted:

its cool that everything is great and only the best versions of things survive, yeah

your posting is the exception that proves the rule

# ? Jun 29, 2013 22:15

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

Bloody posted:

why is php alive?

it got there first

# ? Jun 29, 2013 23:22

Condiv: May 7, 2008; Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod

apparently v8 closes over stuff it shouldn't close over, like closing over str for the logIt function:

code:

var run = function () {
  var str = new Array(1000000).join('*');
  var doSomethingWithStr = function () {
    if (str === 'something')
      console.log("str was something");
  };
  doSomethingWithStr();
  var logIt = function () {
    console.log('interval');
  }
  setInterval(logIt, 100);
};
setInterval(run, 1000);

is this typical of lexically scoped closures or is it just javascript being poo poo?

Condiv fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Jun 30, 2013

# ? Jun 30, 2013 02:36

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

Condiv posted:

apparently v8 closes over stuff it shouldn't close over, like closing over str for the logIt function:
code:
var run = function () {
  var str = new Array(1000000).join('*');
  var doSomethingWithStr = function () {
    if (str === 'something')
      console.log("str was something");
  };
  doSomethingWithStr();
  var logIt = function () {
    console.log('interval');
  }
  setInterval(logIt, 100);
};
setInterval(run, 1000);
is this typical of lexically scoped closures or is it just javascript being poo poo?

it's probably some automatic optimization; one of the closures references str, pulling it in to the second one is seemingly a reasonable time-memory tradeoff

# ? Jun 30, 2013 02:48

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

Condiv posted:

apparently v8 closes over stuff it shouldn't close over, like closing over str for the logIt function:
code:
var run = function () {
  var str = new Array(1000000).join('*');
  var doSomethingWithStr = function () {
    if (str === 'something')
      console.log("str was something");
  };
  doSomethingWithStr();
  var logIt = function () {
    console.log('interval');
  }
  setInterval(logIt, 100);
};
setInterval(run, 1000);
is this typical of lexically scoped closures or is it just javascript being poo poo?

the idea is that variables are allocated on a frame, for each function scope. when a function contains a reference to it's enclosing scope, it keeps a reference to the frame, not the object in question. you can think of a frame as a hash table of variable names to objects.

the rationale, is something like the following:

function toot() {
var butts = "lol";
function butt() { return butts };
butts = "lol a butt";
return butt;
}
> toot()()
"lol a butt"

if the closure kept a reference to the value stored in butt, rather than the frame, then toot()() would return "lol", not "lol a butt". by keeping a reference to the enclosing frame of the var butts, reassignment doesn't stop closure capture from working

lua does something clever instead of keeping a reference to the enclosing frame all the time, it only points to the frame while it is still inside the function scope, then replaces the reference to point to the variable instead

so the above example would still work, but there wouldn't be the same leak-frames would only be shared across closures while the function toot is called, once it returned, the closure in question would keep a reference to "lol a butt".

i think it's late eh

# ? Jun 30, 2013 03:25

Condiv: May 7, 2008; Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod

tef posted:

the idea is that variables are allocated on a frame, for each function scope. when a function contains a reference to it's enclosing scope, it keeps a reference to the frame, not the object in question. you can think of a frame as a hash table of variable names to objects.

the rationale, is something like the following:

function toot() {
var butts = "lol";
function butt() { return butts };
butts = "lol a butt";
return butt;
}
> toot()()
"lol a butt"

if the closure kept a reference to the value stored in butt, rather than the frame, then toot()() would return "lol", not "lol a butt". by keeping a reference to the enclosing frame of the var butts, reassignment doesn't stop closure capture from working

lua does something clever instead of keeping a reference to the enclosing frame all the time, it only points to the frame while it is still inside the function scope, then replaces the reference to point to the variable instead

so the above example would still work, but there wouldn't be the same leak-frames would only be shared across closures while the function toot is called, once it returned, the closure in question would keep a reference to "lol a butt".

i think it's late eh

i wonder if scala does similar to lua. i can write something like:

code:

val fn = () => {
  var a = 5
  var b = new Array[String](100000)
  ((i: Int) => {a += i; println(a)}, (i: Int) => {a *= i; println(a)})
}

def fnStream: Stream[() => (Int => Unit, Int => Unit)] = fn #:: fnStream

val leakTest = (fnStream map (_()) take 10000).toList

without hitting an outofmemory exception because b is cleaned up by the garbage collector, but the value of a is not just copied because the state of a is shared between both of the lambdas in that tuple.

code:

val (fn1, fn2) = fn()
fn1(5) // prints 10
fn2(10) // prints 100

# ? Jun 30, 2013 03:46

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FamDav: Mar 29, 2008

MrMoo posted:

Facebook loves the D

ftfy

# ? Jun 30, 2013 03:50

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