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Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

The Shoshone seem well balanced actually.

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dreffen
Dec 3, 2005

MEDIOCRE, MORSOV!

thehumandignity posted:

I'm not in the US but previously I always saw the "July 9th" banner that everyone else seems to. Now I see this. I don't particularly mind waiting until the 12th, but it isn't right to change something like that on someone after they've already paid.

Well that's still kinda dumb that it showed the 9th despite you not being in the US so I dunno! Sucks if their automated system is messed up!

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

Captain Oblivious posted:

The Zulu unique promotions are hideously good :psyduck:

With an Ikanda you can buy Spearmen straight up with Buffalo Chest AND Buffalo Horns right out the gate. +50% to flanking total, +10% in open terrain, +20% defense against ranged attacks, and +1 movement. Get one promotion extra and you can tack on the third and final promotion for another +25% to flanking, another 10% against ranged, and a flat +10% combat strength.

Zulu is going to be my war mongering Civ. Started one and they declared war real quick on me and just pounded me. I have a feeling they'll be the Civ you don't want to start next to.

Minority Deport
Mar 28, 2010
Ahaha, literally everyone else in the game but me declared war on Morocco.

Cultural victory seems really interesting, in that you have to balance getting shitloads of tourism with devoting resources to breaking civs with more culture than you can easily deal with. Also: Venice is fun as hell, in that you can easily transfer from what is essentially a One-City Challenge into having control over ridiculous amounts of the map, all without shooting anything.

e: Holy poo poo, I just realized that Venice gets a Merchant of Venice from Collective Rule. Huh.

Minority Deport fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Jul 9, 2013

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

brocretin posted:

My apologies for spamming up the thread with this stuff, there's just some funny poo poo going round on the Steam community hub.

Please don't stop, this stuff is amazing. :allears:

And I wouldn't be able to play the game until the 12th anyway because of the Not-An-American penalty, so I just get to kick back and enjoy the schadenfreude in this thread.

brocretin
Nov 15, 2012

yo yo yo i loves virgins

Welp, hopefully GMG will get their act together tomorrow. If not, I guess we'll have more justified (but still likely funny) rage to mine.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


I had the "won't enable DLC" issue, the old deleting the clientregistry.blob trick worked. Then it decided it had to be updated (despite doing it earlier) and would take 27 minutes, but soon after said 0 seconds. Great!

emTme3
Nov 7, 2012

by Hand Knit
Not doing so well in my game, I've lost out on a bunch of key tourism wonders. Buildings with multiple slots are a huge loving deal,especially for Napoleon. I rushed to a great Petra location, only to discover that Petra isn't as great as it used to be. I also missed out on a religion, simply because there is so, so much poo poo to deal with at the beginning of the game now.

Trade routes seem like kind of a pain in the rear end. I have no idea how to protect them, they constantly get sacked, and I can't seem to be able to figure out how to plunder enemy routes. They give enormous amounts of money though, especially if you cluster them all in one city with the appropriate wonders/buildings.

Still streaming at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/civ-5-bnw-goonstream

I'm in the 1600s, Pocatello has built the World Council and my tourism is starting to ramp up. Still no idea if I've got a shot or not though.

emTme3 fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Jul 9, 2013

Kanfy
Jan 9, 2012

Just gotta keep walking down that road.
So has anyone checked if there's anything different in multiplayer yet?

Verviticus
Mar 13, 2006

I'm just a total piece of shit and I'm not sure why I keep posting on this site. Christ, I have spent years with idiots giving me bad advice about online dating and haven't noticed that the thread I'm in selects for people that can't talk to people worth a damn.

Kanfy posted:

So has anyone checked if there's anything different in multiplayer yet?

AI still sucks, doesn't contact you ever and will never let you get a declaration of friendship (doesn't make them with other AI either). Laggy as poo poo and barbarians go after AI turns, so you make a move and then the barbarian appears out of nowhere. Either buggy or badly designed. Do not buy this expansion for multiplayer because they don't give a poo poo.

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

splifyphus posted:

Not doing so well in my game, I've lost out on a bunch of key tourism wonders. Buildings with multiple slots are a huge loving deal,especially for Napoleon. I rushed to a great Petra location, only to discover that Petra isn't as great as it used to be. I also missed out on a religion, simply because there is so, so much poo poo to deal with at the beginning of the game now.

Trade routes seem like kind of a pain in the rear end. I have no idea how to protect them, they constantly get sacked, and I can't seem to be able to figure out how to plunder enemy routes. They give enormous amounts of money though, especially if you cluster them all in one city with the appropriate wonders/buildings.

Still streaming at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/civ-5-bnw-goonstream

I'm in the 1600s, Pocatello has built the World Council and my tourism is starting to ramp up. Still no idea if I've got a shot or not though.

I tried watching and the stream flickers like mad, but even worse I don't know what your game plan is so it seems like all your unit movements and production is random and it's maddening. :suicide:

Bro Enlai
Nov 9, 2008

Just got my Steam key from GMG.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007
My key from GMG just arrived. So everyone else's should soon too.

EightFlyingCars
Jun 30, 2008


Not for me. GMG is very helpfully telling me that there are "no keys available for this game".

Should I be worried? :ohdear:

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE
Got my key as well. There's a post from someone who seems to be on the GMG staff:

quote:

Hi all - keys are currently being sent out for Civ V: Brave New World in North America. We did not receive clearance to send these from the publisher before it was opened up for download on Steam. We have to wait for publisher clearance and in this instance we sadly did not hear from them in time. We'd like to apologise for any inconvenience caused by this, and rest assured keys are going out now.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
I don't have mine yet. I assume the automated bot who's supposed to give them out didn't do it so they have to manually send em out.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Got mine about ten minutes ago, so they're definitely going out.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Yep, got mine and activated it without issue. Too bad I don't get home for four hours. :ohdear:

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!
Yup, GMG code got in about twenty minutes ago here too. Just about to complete the download. Definitely worth saving $7.

jtm33
Mar 23, 2010
Still waiting on mine but I'm sure it'll be here soon.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
What are good social policies for Venice? If they can get two free merchants from Liberty, that seems like a no-brainer to me.

Also, do the Zulus basically just make Germany obsolete?

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

I assume as someone in the UK I've got no choice but to wait until the 12th because even if I get keys earlier it'll be locked on steam anyway?

What the hell is the deal with this region delay anyway?

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Gort posted:

What are good social policies for Venice? If they can get two free merchants from Liberty, that seems like a no-brainer to me.

Also, do the Zulus basically just make Germany obsolete?

I wouldn't say Germany's obsolete...quite. It's close though, and now that I'm thinking of the question it's a lot closer than I thought.

Germany can still out-produce their absurdly cheap unique pikemen that are still cheaper than Shaka's. However Shaka's Impi are so absurdly powerful it really doesn't matter that much and that's not even counting the Buffalo upgrades that the Ikhanda gives.

For reference, a pre-gunpowder melee unit built at an Ikhanda receives "Buffalo Horns" for free which is +1 movement, +10% strength on plains, +10% defense against ranged and +25% to flanking. Having "Horns" also unlocks the ability to get "chest" and "loins" which give the same combat bonuses (but not the movement) as the first one.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Chalks posted:

I assume as someone in the UK I've got no choice but to wait until the 12th because even if I get keys earlier it'll be locked on steam anyway?

What the hell is the deal with this region delay anyway?


Brick and mortar retailers would get mad if they were beaten by digital, basically.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



I take it there's no chance of GMG sending out keys to UK customers until the 12th?

Bashez
Jul 19, 2004

:10bux:
Just finished a culture victory as Poland on emperor. Played on large islands, didn't even sniff a war and only built 3 cities. Poland's UA is incredibly powerful, like I thought. I was dipping into a fourth tree before I had unlocked ideologies. I think I got a good start with luxes that provided money because I was rich as hell pretty much the entire game, even without trade routes. I had wine, gold, gems around my cap and some more wines/marble on my island. I used my trade routes to give food. It's absurd. Late game one of my cities had +26 food from trade routes. Even at 40 pop they still grew every 3-4 turns. Rationalism was made stronger because of how many specialists you end up getting with the insane tall empires you can make now and the shitload of artist/writer/musician slots you get. Poland's UA lets you get off the ground pretty drat quick and it will make it super easy to open up tradition and liberty and head into rationalism.

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax
I sent in a customer support thing per the supposed forum rep's suggestion and first got an email saying "You should have it, are you sure you know how to find it? :downs:" and then "We're sending them out now, just keep checking." If they later try to tell me I have to wait until the twelfth I will pull the old "I'm a dual citizen! I paid in American dollars! I didn't fight for your freedom just for you to treat me like no ferner! :bahgawd:" which in similar situations has always worked.

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Steve2911 posted:

I take it there's no chance of GMG sending out keys to UK customers until the 12th?

https://forums.playfire.com/gmg/thread/118050?page=4#post-3803828

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

thehumandignity posted:

I sent in a customer support thing per the supposed forum rep's suggestion and first got an email saying "You should have it, are you sure you know how to find it? :downs:" and then "We're sending them out now, just keep checking." If they later try to tell me I have to wait until the twelfth I will pull the old "I'm a dual citizen! I paid in American dollars! I didn't fight for your freedom just for you to treat me like no ferner! :bahgawd:" which in similar situations has always worked.

You already admitted you're not in the US you shouldn't act like the tech support person is the idiot for your key not being there.

Neif
Jul 26, 2012

RagnarokAngel posted:



I have no idea why this game in particular is making people go chicken little. It's been an hour and a half since it turned midnight Eastern time.

It is not confined to this game alone, any game that has a good following generates this sort of nail biting "when will those bastards mail me my key" after the release time ticks over. Recent ones for me was CK2:Old Gods, Simcity, Blood Dragon etc.

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

Steve2911 posted:

I take it there's no chance of GMG sending out keys to UK customers until the 12th?

Not looking good.

GMG Employee posted:

Re: EU release, hopefully before the release date but ultimately it's down to 2K telling us when we're cleared to send them out.

Not an ideal answer for you guys I'm sure (since we already have to wait an extra few days anyway), but there it is.

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

RagnarokAngel posted:

You already admitted you're not in the US you shouldn't act like the tech support person is the idiot for your key not being there.

Good thing I didn't do that, then?

Anyway downloading the game now.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Ah well. I suppose that means I'll spend most of Friday downloading it but at least I got it free (had GMG credit that I never knew I had, don't recall buying or selling anything on the site before, so I'm happy).

fspades
Jun 3, 2013

by R. Guyovich
So I tried the VPN trick. The game downloaded just fine, BNW is showing up on DLC list, it did the first time setup but when I enter the game it's still G&K. :(

Offline mode didn't work either.

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

RagnarokAngel posted:

Brick and mortar retailers would get mad if they were beaten by digital, basically.

I'd have thought they'd be used to getting beaten by digital distribution by now. Looking forward to a time when more publishers have the balls to tell them they can either accept new stock 7 days a week or get hosed, sick and tired of arbitrary delays in the UK for the sake of a clunky business model not losing out when they should.

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Chalks posted:

I'd have thought they'd be used to getting beaten by digital distribution by now. Looking forward to a time when more publishers have the balls to tell them they can either accept new stock 7 days a week or get hosed, sick and tired of arbitrary delays in the UK for the sake of a clunky business model not losing out when they should.

Yeah, I'm having a hard time thinking of a parallel (Although, admittedly, I am not an expert) in some other business where one organization puts arbitrary limits on another so that a third will be marginally less unsuccessful.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Considering how terribly PC has been treated by brick 'n' mortar in the last decade or so (even before digital took over), I'm surprised they give a poo poo if they're not given the red carpet treatment with a PC exclusive expansion pack. It's not like they'll have more than two copies (if any) on their shelves anyway.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
Well all of digital media works that way, so music and movies get affected. It has something to do with when each country starts it's sales records. The big organization in the US starts count on tuesday so everyone (but Nintendo) releases on tuesday to get the maximum sales records. I think the EU does something similar starting Friday but I don't know for sure.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


Shoshone are loving awesome, your initial warrior is the scout who can pick to grab up citizens and free techs left and right. Basically you don't need to pick between building a warrior or a scout anymore, you get something like 20 turns of tech advantage off the bat, plus free people. Snowball early, snowball hard.

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fspades
Jun 3, 2013

by R. Guyovich
So here's something weird: When I fire up the game, it loads as G&K. However BNW shows up in the in-game DLC menu but it is disabled. When I enable it, it reverts back to disabled after I quit the DLC menu.

Is there a way to manually enable DLC's from the game files?

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