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TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Captain Fargle posted:

Everything else seems to work. I can browse the web just fine and IP lookup sites all think I'm Fort Lauderdale Florida when I'm connected to it so I don't know what's happening. Steam tries to go online, fails and runs in offline mode instead. I don't get it. :(

Are you able to connect without the VPN? Because it might just be because the Steam client/server is a worthless piece of poo poo.

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Derkinstacker
Dec 30, 2008
I am really digging the Xcom squad. It's such a fun unit to use.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

thehumandignity posted:

Are you able to connect without the VPN? Because it might just be because the Steam client/server is a worthless piece of poo poo.

Yup. Without the VPN everything works just fine. It's only when I'm connected to it that Steam starts to have issues.

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib
Couple observations:

-Fish are the single best resource in the entire game, especially when fully upgraded.
-Jungle tiles loving suck until/unless you get Sacred Path and/or Universities. And I really wish building Plantations on jungle resources didn't chop down the jungle. I grabbed Sacred Path as Brazil, and not only can I not build Brazilwood Camps on Bananas, but building plantations on bananas is just +1 food and isn't really worth the -1 culture.
-I still have no idea how the hell this theming system works and I have like a dozen and half again Great Works.

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

Do you need to decide what victory you want to go for real early like before? Or is it more fluid?

Failboattootoot
Feb 6, 2011

Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.
The game is not letting me take puppets in this multiplayer game and it is minorly frustrating. Did I miss something as Assyria that means I have to annex all these stupid cities?

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Hahahaha. I got the "Tear Down This Wall!" achievement for forcing Mongolia to convert from Order to Freedom. I had a lot of influence over them, and after Genghis conquered everything on his continent he suddenly had no income. He had to delete quite a lot of his army, I could probably have destroyed him utterly if I felt like it--and I was only with three cities as Venice!

I appreciate that culture is now not bound to Freedom, but any of the three possible big ideologies.

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011

Great work themes are based on the building/wonder you put them in, they all have different requirements. Just mouse over the number (i.e +0) and it'll tell you what you need to do.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Wow, Caesar is a complete loving shithead if he gets to control the Worlds Congress. First he enacts a City-State embargo, then embargoes my two most prominent luxes, then embargoes me.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Kyrosiris posted:

Wow, Caesar is a complete loving shithead if he gets to control the Worlds Congress. First he enacts a City-State embargo, then embargoes my two most prominent luxes, then embargoes me.

We did the opposite in my game. Genghis Khan was being a dick, so we enacted an embargo against him and raised the maintenance costs on military units. He didn't have a penny to spend for the rest of the game, haha.

I forget what the penalties are for hitting negative gold, but I think it's both a happiness dent and a science dent?

Anyway: If this were Gods And Kings, Genghis would have been a runaway civ, but thanks to the congress and so on we were able to keep him in check.

emTme3
Nov 7, 2012

by Hand Knit

fspades posted:

I need some tips on cultural victories. It seems like no matter how hard I focus on it, it makes no difference. I put around 140 tourism, the closest contender, Poland, only puts 40. I have Louvre, Broadway, Hermitage, Oxford & Sistine Chapel, all of them fully curated.

But some civs have way too much culture and Poland is a monster in every way right now. And I have to get influential with all of them?? Yeah, unless late game radically changes things I don't see how.:(

I did it last night, but it took until the 2000s and I had to kill the last guy (Morocco) because he had so much culture.

I don't know if I can give you any tips. Get every single multi-slot building you can get in your capital and be France. It seems like there's just too much defensive culture flying around right now to be able to win solely via tourism, although high tourism makes you absurdly powerful in other arenas.

Oh yeah, winning the International Games doubles your tourism for 20 turns, pretty big deal once you've got all the big wonders.

emTme3 fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jul 10, 2013

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Speedball posted:

We did the opposite in my game. Genghis Khan was being a dick, so we enacted an embargo against him and raised the maintenance costs on military units. He didn't have a penny to spend for the rest of the game, haha.

I forget what the penalties are for hitting negative gold, but I think it's both a happiness dent and a science dent?

Anyway: If this were Gods And Kings, Genghis would have been a runaway civ, but thanks to the congress and so on we were able to keep him in check.

Negative gold is a science hit and your units start disbanding every few turns.

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011





Been playing Venice as a 1 city challenge and so far seems pretty awesome. I didn't realize you couldn't puppet city states as 1 city so I am the ally of every single one in the game instead. Working out okay.

AndroidHub
Feb 28, 2007

I've seen some stuff that would really make you say "like what?"
Sorry if this has been addressed, but is there a way to make the game fullscreen borderless windowed?

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Speedball posted:

We did the opposite in my game. Genghis Khan was being a dick, so we enacted an embargo against him and raised the maintenance costs on military units. He didn't have a penny to spend for the rest of the game, haha.

I forget what the penalties are for hitting negative gold, but I think it's both a happiness dent and a science dent?

Anyway: If this were Gods And Kings, Genghis would have been a runaway civ, but thanks to the congress and so on we were able to keep him in check.

Yeah, I wasn't running away by any means, but I was the point leader by a slight margin for having capped the Maya and Ottoman capitals.

Hilariously, Caesar didn't even have any negative diplo factors with me, since this had all gone down before he ever met Suleiman (and Pacal had been eliminated long before; Suleiman capped Pacal's last city and razed it). We even had "we denounced the same leaders!" since I'd denounced Suleiman (he kept sneak attacking me and Maria I) and he had too.

But nope, raging hateboner for the Zulu, apparently.

Fucker.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
Assyria does get its tech steal for cities that it receives as part of a peace treaty. I'm not sure if that's intended or a bug, but it's a nice incentive to end a war without having to reduce your tech pinata down to one city first. Also, the XP bonus from a Royal Library with a Great Book in it is equivalent to a Barracks, so you can pump out some early soldiers who have learned how to kill by reading Aesop's Fables.

I wish I could keep building siege towers even after I've got Physics.

Joink
Jan 8, 2004

What if I told you cod is no longer a fish :coolfish:
Finished first BNW game as Indonesia, king difficulty. Probably could of went for a domination victory much earlier but wanted to do a cultural victory. Screenshots from before last civ becomes influenced. Indonesias UU is quite awesome but requires iron.

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/633037656651374923/D4926DBDD0BA75B348164432AC111E3013A71259/

Kiev, which started as a city-state became the cultural center of the planet.
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/633037656651377491/025CB2A3A442BD832CFFBA8FC0B7660308E7DF13/

I didn't have open borders with anyone other than Attila, so tourism took way longer to spread.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Is there a way to steal great works?

Periodiko
Jan 30, 2005
Uh.

Kyrosiris posted:

Wow, Caesar is a complete loving shithead if he gets to control the Worlds Congress. First he enacts a City-State embargo, then embargoes my two most prominent luxes, then embargoes me.

Now you know how Saddam felt!

Triskelli
Sep 27, 2011

I AM A SKELETON
WITH VERY HIGH
STANDARDS


Speedball posted:

Is there a way to steal great works?

Via war? Heck yeah. You're allowed to pull some serious cultural appropriation after sacking a city.

Peacefully? You're better off trying to trade for it. There does need to be a mod ASAP that lets spies steal Great Works if it's not possible already

Tiny Chalupa
Feb 14, 2012
Is there a site that has the updated civ bonus info?

as in this new civ has x

emTme3
Nov 7, 2012

by Hand Knit

Speedball posted:

Is there a way to steal great works?

Take over the city they're in and they're yours.

Tiny Chalupa posted:

Is there a site that has the updated civ bonus info?

as in this new civ has x

http://well-of-souls.com/civ/civ5_bravenewworld.html

One of my allies on the second continent told me his spies had found out that Pocatello, the juggernaut (again) in this game, was preparing to launch a surprise naval invasion along my northern border. Not even 20 turns later, sure enough.

This game is really solid now.

emTme3 fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Jul 10, 2013

DEO3
Oct 25, 2005

DEO3 posted:

I got a $30 credit toward any digital 2K Games game on Amazon back when I pre-ordered Bioshock Infinite, but it's not being applied to Brave New World, and the lady in chat wasn't able to help me, and so she's forwarded the issue to the promotions department, and said it might take a couple of days for them to figure out the issue, and now I'm sad. :(

Trip report: The promotions department finally got back to me with an email saying Brave New World isn't eligible for the promotion, and then sent me a link to games that were eligible... a link that simply brought me to a page of games published by 2K. And what do I see staring me in the face on that very page? Civilization V: Brave New World.

Fed up with getting the run around I gave them a call, and the woman on the phone told me that the reason the credit wasn't applying was because it only applies to games that had been published by 2K at the time I got the credit and that it doesn't apply to anything published by them since. The logic being that anything published after I got the credit would've been considered a pre-order at the time, and that the credit isn't eligible for pre-orders.

I even read to her the exact wording of the promotion since there's nothing there that would make you think it wouldn't work for Brave New World:

quote:

Your purchase entitles you to a $30 credit good towards 2K Digital Video Games on Amazon.com excluding pre-orders and the Bioshock Season Pass. To redeem your credit visit: http://www.amazon.com/Game-Downloads...node=979455011 Purchase the 2K product of your choice, and the credit will be automatically applied.

And noted that the link in the promotion actually takes me to a page, again, showing Brave New World! She said they're taking a very firm stand on the issue and wouldn't budge.

So basically, gently caress Amazon and their deceptive promotion. I've since purchased the game elsewhere.

Periodiko
Jan 30, 2005
Uh.
When you upgrade a Siege Tower, does it retain the Sapper upgrade (+50% vs. cities for allies)?

Periodiko fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Jul 10, 2013

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

Periodiko posted:

When you upgrade a Siege Tower, does it retain the Sapper upgrade (+50% vs. cities for allies)?
No, it doesn't.

Just finished my first game with the Shosone, they kick rear end. BNW is pretty fun.

Triskelli
Sep 27, 2011

I AM A SKELETON
WITH VERY HIGH
STANDARDS


splifyphus posted:

One of my allies on the second continent told me his spies had found out that Pocatello, the juggernaut (again) in this game, was preparing to launch a surprise naval invasion along my northern border. Not even 20 turns later, sure enough.

This game is really solid now.

As awesome as that is, it still makes me wish the player could call the AI on their bullshit in scenarios like this. "I've noticed a large number of your units near my borders. Training exercises, that's what I thought."

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

DEO3 posted:

rave New World! She said they're taking a very firm stand on the issue and wouldn't budge.

So basically, gently caress Amazon and their deceptive promotion. I've since purchased the game elsewhere.





I could have swore somebody asked if that credit would apply to BNW in the amazon thread and tony said it would. It wouldn't hurt to hit Amazon tony up if anyone still has the credit.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Kyrosiris posted:

Wow, Caesar is a complete loving shithead if he gets to control the Worlds Congress. First he enacts a City-State embargo, then embargoes my two most prominent luxes, then embargoes me.

I know your pain. Every single BNW game I've played so far I've gotten loving Alex, who then proceeds to own the world congress forever.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Triskelli posted:

Via war? Heck yeah. You're allowed to pull some serious cultural appropriation after sacking a city.

Peacefully? You're better off trying to trade for it. There does need to be a mod ASAP that lets spies steal Great Works if it's not possible already

Seriously having your spies set up a heist to steal a piece of art is so obvious it's weird they didnt do it by default.

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo
Not sure if the music has been posted in the new thread, but they're now up on composer Geoff Knorr's official website, along with the actual song titles:
http://geoffknorr.com/Video%20Games.html

Triskelli
Sep 27, 2011

I AM A SKELETON
WITH VERY HIGH
STANDARDS


RagnarokAngel posted:

Seriously having your spies set up a heist to steal a piece of art is so obvious it's weird they didnt do it by default.

I guess because the great works themselves don't confer a direct bonus, getting a particular Great Work isn't as much of a priority. Still, it'd be an interesting way to cut a runaway cultural Civ down to size by ruining their curation bonuses.

Antifa Spacemarine
Jan 11, 2011

Tzeentch can suck it.
gently caress Shaka, if I wanted to play Zerg Rushes I would play Starcraft.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Shaman Ooglaboogla posted:

gently caress Shaka, if I wanted to play Zerg Rushes I would play Starcraft.

Impi are about as durable as Roaches, too. :v:

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

RagnarokAngel posted:

Seriously having your spies set up a heist to steal a piece of art is so obvious it's weird they didnt do it by default.

I think the inability to acquire new works except through Great People or conquest is supposed to be a balancing factor, otherwise it becomes a little too easy to control tourism. And given how frequent tech steals are.... well, I don't think players are going to enjoy having their themed bonuses constantly wrecked and chances of cultural victory ruined because the AI has money to throw around.

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



Tao Jones posted:

Assyria does get its tech steal for cities that it receives as part of a peace treaty. I'm not sure if that's intended or a bug, but it's a nice incentive to end a war without having to reduce your tech pinata down to one city first. Also, the XP bonus from a Royal Library with a Great Book in it is equivalent to a Barracks, so you can pump out some early soldiers who have learned how to kill by reading Aesop's Fables.

I wish I could keep building siege towers even after I've got Physics.

Siege towers: good unit or best unit?

I think Assyria's my new favorite civ for burning everything.

Protagorean
May 19, 2013

by Azathoth
Fuuuuuck, did they change Great Wall? Poland rushed it early and so I just traded with them until my gigantic capital could pump out enough toy soldiers a turn to overwhelm them, and I was looking forward to researching Dynamite, then I finally get it, and I'm still having the time of my life slogging through his territory one tile at a time. Or does HE have to research Dynamite? Because if so, that's rear end-backwards.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
Boudicca has been pissing me off all game. Sniping wonders from me left and right so after ganking Notre Dame from with one turn left I decided I had enough of this garbage. So while she's up north fighting a stalemate war with Greece I'm taking advantage of the fact her Capitol with all those fancy wonders backs up to an uninhabited perfectly flat peninsula by embarking about 20 top of the line units and 5 brand new frigates to form the first army of "gently caress you I'm rolling through and busting all your stuff".

Glad all the gold I've been hoarding is paying off.

Triskelli
Sep 27, 2011

I AM A SKELETON
WITH VERY HIGH
STANDARDS


Protagorean posted:

Or does HE have to research Dynamite? Because if so, that's rear end-backwards.

Bingo. I say we make a petition.

Protagorean
May 19, 2013

by Azathoth

Triskelli posted:

Bingo. I say we make a petition.

What, do they blow up their own walls for me? :ughh:

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Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


Protagorean posted:

What, do they blow up their own walls for me? :ughh:

That's the way it's always worked in Civ and i don't know why. Probably because it's a flag attached to the building itself where the effect gets obsoleted by the technology which gets absurd if it's "the first time a civ researches this tech it is obsolete."

Also all siege weapons should work like siege towers, this bombardment system is baloney.

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