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Berk Berkly
Apr 9, 2009

by zen death robot

TacMan posted:

Are you serious steam? this game just came out 2 days ago, why did you make me feel like it was safe to buy it!

Yep. Even starting from scratch I just bought CV:Gold AND BNW together for a total of $32.58.

Thanks Gabe!


VVVVVV: Awww, yea. Gonna spend this extra :10bux: I saved from not pre-ordering on some serious hookers and blow.

Berk Berkly fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Jul 12, 2013

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stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



A mere 10 hours after it unlocked for UK pre-order holders... Wow.

Protagorean
May 19, 2013

by Azathoth

Inspector_71 posted:

Elizabeth's rear end has been writing checks her face can seriously not cash.



Shortly after this check on her welfare I nuked three of her cities off the map and took London.

(EDIT: The reason for her abysmal GPT was her insistence on maintaining a huge navy, which was completely useless as it was locking into an inland sea (because she didn't build a city on a 1 tile wide spit) while Standing Army Tax was in effect since the first round of the World Council. The Navy was entirely sunk within 3 turns once the war started.)

Why on Earth do you have that much money? :aaa: Do you just not buy anything, and then use it as a swimming pool like Scrooge McDuck? Or are you really into the idea of rainy-day funds? Or have I been doing it wrong this whole time, spending it nearly as fast as I make it, so even at 800+ GPT I never have more than maybe 4K on hand for bidding wars with City-States.

Also:


Prop Wash posted:

Dick move, Steam.

Just poo poo all over my pre-order. I didn't even get a loving hat!

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

God damnit, those 8 buxs could have bought me 1-3 other games or one of my missing Skyrim DLCs. Or 2-3 sets of cards for badges. Or a meal...

I'm so hungry...

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.
I've got a spy in Vienna while Maria Theresa's defending it against Ashurbanipal. He has the city surrounded by musketmen and crossbowmen but is never attacking. She's slowly picking them off each turn. As one of Austria's major trade partners I'm happy, but I'm sad that Ashurbanipal's AI seems content with keeping its soldiers in the line of fire for no obvious reason. Maybe he's sending siege units from far away and is just holding the fort?

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Sanguinia posted:

God damnit, those 8 buxs could have bought me 1-3 other games or one of my missing Skyrim DLCs. Or 2-3 sets of cards for badges. Or a meal...

I'm so hungry...

It's 5:30am here in Peru, I'm waiting till banks open!

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
So, I've seen a lot of people post about how AIs are having happiness and money problems, or don't expand like they used to - do we have any hard numbers on what their difficulty modifiers are now? I'd look in the files myself if I wasn't phoneposting.

Kanfy
Jan 9, 2012

Just gotta keep walking down that road.
I'd like to have a serious discussion with whoever thought those Assyrian siege towers were a good and balanced idea.

Bone_Enterprise
Aug 9, 2005

Inception Cigars
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Kyrosiris posted:

:siren: Cross-posting from the Steam sale thread: Brave New World just went on a flash deal for 33% off for the next 8 hours. $20.09. :siren:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/235580/?snr=1_5_9__405

Saw this and was going to come here and mention it, bought it and the gold edition upgrade.

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax
If any Australians haven't gotten it yet, cdkeys.com.au has BNW steam activation keys for 27 AUD, compared to 50 on steam and store shelves.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


Kyrosiris posted:

:siren: Cross-posting from the Steam sale thread: Brave New World just went on a flash deal for 33% off for the next 8 hours. $20.09. :siren:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/235580/?snr=1_5_9__405

Not bitter because I used Amazon credit to get the expansion for like 13 bucks.


Still, the expansion is worth full price, and at 20 bucks, you'd be stupid not to buy this. Stop sitting on the fence and buy the drat game.

Ulvino
Mar 20, 2009
Just 51 minutes to go... Plus maybe another hour of traffic jam. :negative:

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Handsome Ralph posted:

Not bitter because I used Amazon credit to get the expansion for like 13 bucks.


Still, the expansion is worth full price, and at 20 bucks, you'd be stupid not to buy this. Stop sitting on the fence and buy the drat game.

Yeah I feel like it makes Gods and Kings look like crap by comparison (A golden review I assure you).

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


RagnarokAngel posted:

Yeah I feel like it makes Gods and Kings look like crap by comparison (A golden review I assure you).

Gods and Kings was a great expansion, but yeah, Brave New World is definitely Civ V's Beyond the Sword (which I will fight to the death defending the title of best Civ expansion ever).

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

I think I'll still go back and play Civ IV BTS because that's just such an incredibly good strategy experience that still hasn't been topped. But BNW is really good in its own right. I just hope that Firaxis can issue out a balance patch or two in order to work out some issues. But knowing Firaxis' history with patching, I won't hold my breath. It's still really good as-is, thankfully. I think if they finally fixed some bone headed AI issues, and did some balancing touches, it would end up surpassing BTS in my eyes. But there's a lot of little stupid things holding Civ V back.

Fryhtaning
Jul 21, 2010

Gully Foyle posted:

Now, all of the 'force' on the civ is compared to all of the 'defense' on the civ. If force > defense, then the civ will start to suffer happiness penalties. There are different levels of this:
0 - Content (defence is equal or better than force) - 0 unhappiness
-1 - Dissidents - Highest of: 1 unhappiness/city or 1 unhappiness/10 pop
-2 - Resistance - Highest of(I think) 2/city or 1/5 pop
-3 - Revolutionary Wave - Highest of 4/city or 1/3 pop

I was dominant with 5 out of 7 other Civs and I never saw Resistance or Revolutionary from anyone. Everyone else's culture and tourism sucked, except for Bismark's, and literally everyone else except for Persia was Order while I was Freedom. How the hell is it even possible to get anyone to those levels? I did see some happiness penalties, but it wasn't enough to make anyone unhappy overall - and that was on King, so good loving luck if that had been any of the higher difficulties.

By the time I had enough delegates to where I actually could have passed Freedom as the global ideology, which could have made a difference, I was close enough to a diplo victory to go for that instead. Just very strange in such a culture-dominant game that I never saw city flips, revolutions, or even anyone switching ideologies.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

How much influence over other civs do you have to have to get a cultural victory?

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

DrManiac posted:

How much influence over other civs do you have to have to get a cultural victory?

There are something like five levels. Whichever after Popular is the lock for cultural victory.



Did Steam add trading cards to this overnight? Could have sworn I didn't see the little notification on the game icon before. That and I probably put 20 hours into this game a week at the minimum and don't have any cards, yet played War of the Roses for a few hours and have 3.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
Patronage seems like it's much more powerful than it used to be. With nothing more than a small self-built navy of like 3 melee ships and 2 ranged ships, along with gifts from random Militaristic city-states, I was #1 in pointy sticks in my Indonesia diplomacy run on Emperor by the midgame and never lost that position. Building no units and having the best military in the world doesn't seem like a thing that should happen.

I also wish there was a way to send an AI a sternly-worded email when they cut a trade route that's going to you but belongs to someone else that they're at war with. I mean, I get the little "Montezuma cut a trade route belonging to Pedro II that was going to the city of blah" notification. It seems weird to not be able to complain about it. (Not that I expect the complaining to do anything. Monty kept bullying Kuala Lumpur, which I had pledged to protect, and I'd send him a sternly worded email about it each time, but despite the interface telling me it would worsen relations and might lead to war Monty never shifted away from Friendly to me.

Janjaweed6969
Jun 8, 2013

by AVBrafaDiMatteo
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Somebody fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Jul 12, 2013

FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

So many barbarians. They definitely spawn a lot faster from their camps.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009
Whoever suggested small continents as the best map type, I'm beginning to agree. I used to be all about fractal but I'm playing a game as Venice on it and the amount of sea routes I have is amazing and my bought city-states are perfectly distributed. I like how there's actually a very good mix of city-states on the larger continents as well as on far flung islands.

Kanfy
Jan 9, 2012

Just gotta keep walking down that road.

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

I think I'll still go back and play Civ IV BTS because that's just such an incredibly good strategy experience that still hasn't been topped.

Fall From Heaven II topped it years ago. :colbert:

TalonDemonKing
May 4, 2011

Janjaweed6969 posted:

YOU loving CUNTS SUCK AT THIS GAME KILL EVERYONE WITH LONGBOWS OR KESHIKS

Is this some kind of inside joke I'm missing or...?

HMS Beagle
Feb 13, 2009



TalonDemonKing posted:

Is this some kind of inside joke I'm missing or...?

Welcome to the wonderful world of vile pilot

I've played about 150 turns with each of the new civs. Really enjoying Shoshone and Indonesia. About to start Siege Tower stuff with Assyria, so I'm excited for that.

ufarn
May 30, 2009
€30 right out the window. Thanks GMG and Steam. :suicide:

I've played Civ sporadically over the years (I quite vanilla Civ 5, because it kept crashing), but I never really got the concept of gold.

How important is it, and how should you use it, especially in the early game?

Guildencrantz
May 1, 2012

IM ONE OF THE GOOD ONES

TalonDemonKing posted:

Is this some kind of inside joke I'm missing or...?

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

In other news, it may just be me, but it seems like the Honor opener is now a great first policy thanks to the screaming barbarian hordes constantly tearing up the early-game map. You can rake in a ton of early culture with it if you're at all proactive about using your military, which also makes Liberty actually competitive for a change.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
I have an evil idea for a strategy: Play Byzantium, go Piety and rush a great prophet out ASAP. Take Pagodas, Cathedrals and Mosques. Take the reformation belief that gives you two tourism per faith-bought building. Fill up your cities with these buildings and laugh about how you won a culture victory in the bronze age.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

I think I'll still go back and play Civ IV BTS because that's just such an incredibly good strategy experience that still hasn't been topped. But BNW is really good in its own right. I just hope that Firaxis can issue out a balance patch or two in order to work out some issues. But knowing Firaxis' history with patching, I won't hold my breath. It's still really good as-is, thankfully. I think if they finally fixed some bone headed AI issues, and did some balancing touches, it would end up surpassing BTS in my eyes. But there's a lot of little stupid things holding Civ V back.

Honestly at this point, my biggest complaints seem to have been addressed. My only minor issues is that the AI could still use (and always will) a little more tweaking (but it is far better than it was at launch), and I miss having a privateer unit that could operate discreetly (I had a lot of fun in Civ 3 loving with people's trade routes that way).

I also really wish there was a way to trade maps (or something similar to research agreements for maps, no, not open borders). At least now when you get satellites, the entire map shows up. When that didn't happen at launch, that pissed me off more than anything else.

Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Jul 12, 2013

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

I can't believe this was part of the Steam Summer Sale. gently caress you, early adopters!

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

The Moon Monster posted:

I can't believe this was part of the Steam Summer Sale. gently caress you, early adopters!

The extra money I spent was totally worth it.

emTme3
Nov 7, 2012

by Hand Knit
I want a mod that plays each great work of music when you make them.

It is total bullshit that each great work of art actually pops up as they're created, and then Bach writes his Brandenburg Concerti and the same stupid midi jingle plays.

Total bullshit. I want the soundtrack to switch to whatever great work I've just created.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


Speedball posted:

The extra money I spent was totally worth it.

This. Seriously, if you pre-ordered it anywhere, you're out seven bucks. I'm sure that seven dollars would have been spent wisely on something like a trip to Taco Bell.

If it was a bad or even mediocre expansion I'd be annoyed too, but whatever, it's worth it at full price (or 26.99 if you pre-ordered like you were supposed to :colbert: ).

Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Jul 12, 2013

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

splifyphus posted:

I want a mod that plays each great work of music when you make them.

It is total bullshit that each great work of art actually pops up as they're created, and then Bach writes his Brandenburg Concerti and the same stupid midi jingle plays.

Total bullshit. I want the soundtrack to switch to whatever great work I've just created.

Ummmm... it does. Do you have music turned off or something? You get the little picture of a concert and it plays a clip from the piece of music. :confused:

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

I caved and bought BNW on sale, time to figure out what the hell tourism is, defy the world congress, and get XCOM killed. :getin:

The Human Crouton
Sep 20, 2002

WYA posted:

I feel like the continents plus map algorythm is completely broken with the new exp pack. I've restarted 4 times now and theres been absolutely no city states anywhere near me

You can keep the awesome map style of continents plus, but have city-states spawn regularly instead of exclusively on the island chains by following the instructions in this thread.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=453587

I've done it, and it's great.

Andre Banzai
Jan 2, 2012

Holy poo poo. Started my game as Pedro II, game tossed my settler in the middle of a desert! No jungle tiles even remotely close to where I am! And someone else grabbed Petra before me!

Screw it, I'm playing anyway. Managed to be the first Civ to develop a religion, Tithe and Religious Texts, let's push forward.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Handsome Ralph posted:

This. Seriously, if you pre-ordered it anywhere, you're out seven bucks. I'm sure that seven dollars would have been spent wisely on something like a trip to Taco Bell.

If it was a bad or even mediocre expansion I'd be annoyed too, but whatever, it's worth it at full price (or 26.99 if you pre-ordered like you were supposed to :colbert: ).

I bought it knowing good and well this might happen.

Fryhtaning
Jul 21, 2010

Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:

I bought it knowing good and well this might happen.

Yeah, and you know what, gently caress it. I've got 4000 hours in this game. I'm paying a couple cents per hour for entertainment via an incredible game. I got more important poo poo to worry about.

... it still is kind of a dick move, in any case.

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Not Al-Qaeda
Mar 20, 2012
It seems that for europeans, it's still a better deal to buy from GMG with the 20% off voucher.

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