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Hey pre-order and early adopters of BNW, Steam just apologized for the early BNW discount sale and gave every early adopter a free copy of Civ IV to play or gift away. Check your Steam inventories!
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Jul 13, 2013 02:31
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Just got the best start I think I've ever gotten in this game as Shoshone on Small Continents/Emperor. 3 Fish in a 6-coast tile bay, 3 spices, 1 stone, 1 gems, 1 bananas, all plains, albeit mostly covered in jungle. The only other player on my continent is Korea and I got 5 ruins. 
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Jul 13, 2013 02:33
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Even though the Foreign Legion is no longer the French UU, it's still in the UU list for Militaristic City-States. They also have a lower base combat strength, so with their +20% foreign lands bonus they're only up 0.4 combat strength over the Great War Infantry they replace. Overall, I'm not too impressed by them. You're only a couple techs from getting real Infantry at Plastics, and you can make units with the +15% from Heroic Epic so you're nearly at the same combat strength except with XP from your Barracks/etc and you keep that strength inside your borders. Right now the ideology to get 8 of them for free seems like a panic button more than anything else.
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Jul 13, 2013 02:45
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Olive Branch posted:Hey pre-order and early adopters of BNW, Steam just apologized for the early BNW discount sale and gave every early adopter a free copy of Civ IV to play or gift away. Check your Steam inventories! I pre-ordered and I haven't been given anything. 
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Jul 13, 2013 02:45
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DirtyOldDishrag posted:I pre-ordered and I haven't been given anything. Try reloading the Steam client.  "Mix-up," my rear end. Still there it was, waiting in my invetory.
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Jul 13, 2013 02:51
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saint gerald posted:Try reloading the Steam client. That did it! Thanks!
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Jul 13, 2013 02:53
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Having some weird late-game global economic poo poo right now. Every single AI is running at -100 or more GPT. It seems like trade creates an artificial bubble of income, people build their armies up to that new limit, then war comes, trade routes collapse and the bubble burts, the inflated armies are still there beating on each other amid the rotting carcasses of their own economies. I'm only staying alive myself because I maxed out Honor. Killing end game units can give upwards of 100g each. All of the value in my game's economy has switched to being created through destruction. 
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Jul 13, 2013 03:08
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Matrim posted:I started off a game as Byzantine with my teammate as Venice. I rushed piety to get the reformation belief that allows you to convert barbarians. Then, I setup three barbarian fountains, including a naval one: Oh, my God I need to try Heathen conversion. Does it only work on your turns or does it work if barbs approach the missionary on their turn?
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Jul 13, 2013 03:09
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A Tartan Tory posted:Goddamn, if anyone hasn't tried out Morocco, you really need to. With the right conditions, you can out-Venice Venice.. I'm trying out Morocco now, go Petra go! I'm a little confused about the UA though. As in, it doesn't seem to exist? I've established two trade routes, with two different civs, but I'm not getting any bonuses at all.
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Jul 13, 2013 03:10
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Highlight your income and you'll see +6 from traits.
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Jul 13, 2013 03:12
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saint gerald posted:Try reloading the Steam client. But I already HAVE Civ IV. And all of the expansions.  Oh, and to people saying Beyond the Sword was the best expansion pack, counterpoint: no Leonard Nimoy. 
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Jul 13, 2013 03:15
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People were actually that upset about BNW being in the flash sale? It's just a couple loving dollars, holy poo poo
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Jul 13, 2013 03:17
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saint gerald posted:Try reloading the Steam client. They spelled inventory wrong. edit; It's not even the complete version of Civ4, it's the crappy vanilla version as far as I can tell. Kly fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Jul 13, 2013 |
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Jul 13, 2013 03:18
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Red Red Blue posted:People were actually that upset about BNW being in the flash sale? It's just a couple loving dollars, holy poo poo  PC gamers. Also some stuff about loyalty I guess?
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Jul 13, 2013 03:18
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A Tartan Tory posted:Goddamn, if anyone hasn't tried out Morocco, you really need to. With the right conditions, you can out-Venice Venice.. I'm out Venicing Venice as Carthage on a Small Continents map. I'm making massive amounts of money from my city connections and trade routes due to my free harbors, I haven't built a single road yet. I also managed to get both the Colossus and, somehow, Petra (even if it is only affecting 3 tiles) for the free trade routes. I'm also pulling the Papal Primacy and Consulates combination to force any CS with my religion to be at least Friend status.
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Jul 13, 2013 03:23
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Just started my first BNW game. Was quite surprised to see how important protecting your trade routes are, especially on Archipelago maps.Olive Branch posted:Hey pre-order and early adopters of BNW, Steam just apologized for the early BNW discount sale and gave every early adopter a free copy of Civ IV to play or gift away. Check your Steam inventories! I'm guessing this only applies to people who pre-ordered it from Steam, not from places like GMG? (Not that it matters to me, I already have Civ IV) Smol fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Jul 13, 2013 |
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Jul 13, 2013 03:24
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counterfeitsaint posted:Huh? On Trade Overview you can look at your current routes and even sort them by how much gold they're individually pulling in. You can also sort them by how many turns they have left before you can reassign them. There definitely isn't a concrete amount of turns for them; there's some nebulous factors that cause some of them to last around 40 turns and some to last only around 20 turns from what I've noticed.
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Jul 13, 2013 03:29
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Maybe it depends on how many trips they make?
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Jul 13, 2013 03:38
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Smol posted:I'm guessing this only applies to people who pre-ordered it from Steam, not from places like GMG? (Not that it matters to me, I already have Civ IV) Nope, I preordered on GMG and got it. It was also for people who bought it in the first few days it was out too.
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Jul 13, 2013 03:40
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Red Red Blue posted:People were actually that upset about BNW being in the flash sale? It's just a couple loving dollars, holy poo poo Considering the game was on a flash sale literally the day it was released here it is a bit annoying, I mean, I'm not going to burn down Firaxis' offices over it or anything over it but it still sucks.
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Jul 13, 2013 03:44
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I couldn't give less of a poo poo about the game going on sale, but gifting people vanilla Civ IV seems a tad silly. What they should have done is credited everyone's account with $6 bucks of Steam wallet money, or whatever the sale difference was, like we all bought it on sale, and then pretty much everyone would have plowed those Steam bucks back into the store during the sale, and spend more, because the $$ isn't enough to buy more then an indie game or something.
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Jul 13, 2013 03:48
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Fintilgin posted:I couldn't give less of a poo poo about the game going on sale, but gifting people vanilla Civ IV seems a tad silly. What they should have done is credited everyone's account with $6 bucks of Steam wallet money, or whatever the sale difference was, like we all bought it on sale, and then pretty much everyone would have plowed those Steam bucks back into the store during the sale, and spend more, because the $$ isn't enough to buy more then an indie game or something. Yeah that sounds like a way better compensation. I mean if you're the type of person to pre-order the Civ5 expansion pack, chances are you already have Civ4. Oh well, guess it's already done.
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Jul 13, 2013 03:56
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splifyphus posted:Having some weird late-game global economic poo poo right now. Every single AI is running at -100 or more GPT. It seems like trade creates an artificial bubble of income, people build their armies up to that new limit, then war comes, trade routes collapse and the bubble burts, the inflated armies are still there beating on each other amid the rotting carcasses of their own economies. 
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Jul 13, 2013 04:04
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Away all Goats posted:Yeah that sounds like a way better compensation. I mean if you're the type of person to pre-order the Civ5 expansion pack, chances are you already have Civ4. Oh well, guess it's already done. I gifted it to a friend of mine but now I feel guilty that he'll be playing vanilla without any of the expansions 
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Jul 13, 2013 04:11
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Anyone else find themselves 'liberating' just as much as puppeting and conquering since the expansion? Half the times I seem to declare war for the express purpose of restoring order and stopping some runaway civ from conquering everyone. I have no interest in holding onto the cities, so I usually take the great works of art and give the city back. Especially if they were friendly neighbours- the trade route is often worth more to me than the city, which escalates culture and science costs. Feels almost... Realistic. I've had to smack Germany down a bunch of times in my TSL map for getting a little too ambitious in Europe.
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Jul 13, 2013 04:24
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Lategame diplomacy gets convoluted as gently caress, especially if it's been fairly peaceful up until then, and you aren't in first place. I had to set up four different deals and make everyone happy so I could embargo Ethiopia, who was the runaway leader and had a dominant world religion. Wish I could ban out his religion, but shutting out his trade is good enough for now.
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Jul 13, 2013 04:25
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Kyrosiris posted:Nope, I preordered on GMG and got it. It was also for people who bought it in the first few days it was out too. Strange; I preordered on GMG, I've reloaded Steam a couple times and I haven't gotten it. Maybe a delay? I'm really digging the new cultural gameplay. It really scratches my collector's itch, going into the theming selection is more satisfying than it really should be for a shelf-stocking minigame.
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Jul 13, 2013 04:26
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Poizen Jam posted:Anyone else find themselves 'liberating' just as much as puppeting and conquering since the expansion? Half the times I seem to declare war for the express purpose of restoring order and stopping some runaway civ from conquering everyone. I have no interest in holding onto the cities, so I usually take the great works of art and give the city back. Especially if they were friendly neighbours- the trade route is often worth more to me than the city, which escalates culture and science costs. Honestly its always felt like this. There is inevitably one civ who just assigns himself the role of "world conqueror" and if you don't spawn near him in the start you'll get to trudge through his 30+ city empire liberating city states and old Civs left and right. I don't know how people play peaceful games of Civ 5 since the best way to deal with those civs is to conquer them yourself, or conquer someone close enough so you have the strength to deal with them later.
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Jul 13, 2013 04:29
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I think you misunderstood. Yes, this is the way the game usually has played out, but all I mean to say is in the past I would have puppeted every city rather than liberate it. Now I actually have a reason to save the asses of my AI allies now (aside from giving away cities just to lower my unhappiness, of course) because they maintain trade routes with me. More civs = more trade route possibilities, not to mention some abilities actually play off of trading with multiple civs.
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Jul 13, 2013 04:37
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So I just reached industrial era and the first tech I unlocked in it is industrialization. For some reason none of the city states that already had mines on their coal sources will grant me their coal even though I am allied with them. It lists them as having the resources and there isn't any option to pay to have them improve it. Not sure what is going on with it. Is there something I am doing wrong?
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Jul 13, 2013 04:38
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You know what coal is, they don't understand why you'd want these boring black rocks. They need to have the tech to unlock the resource to gift it to you.
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Jul 13, 2013 04:50
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Away all Goats posted:Yeah that sounds like a way better compensation. I mean if you're the type of person to pre-order the Civ5 expansion pack, chances are you already have Civ4. Oh well, guess it's already done. If we complain about the reward enough, maybe they'll reward us with something new?!
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Jul 13, 2013 05:04
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I tried out Venice as a naval based domination, it's so broken I don't get why you'd ever play the guy as culture. I had a blanket of duders so thick it reminded me of vanilla.
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Jul 13, 2013 05:04
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Speedball posted:Oh, my God I need to try Heathen conversion. Does it only work on your turns or does it work if barbs approach the missionary on their turn? If at any point during anyone's turn a misionary is adjacent to any number of barbarian units, they are instantly converted to your civ and have no moves remaining. Frida Call Me fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Jul 13, 2013 |
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Jul 13, 2013 05:11
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Matrim posted:If at any point during anyone's turn a mision is adjacent to any number of barbarian units, they are instantly converted to your civ and have no moves remaining. Does this work on rebels?
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Jul 13, 2013 05:13
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uPen posted:Does this work on rebels? It might, haven't actually tried that out yet.
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Jul 13, 2013 05:14
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So has anyone else tried using the Reformation belief Underground Sect? I thought it was sort of perk that made spies have the secondary effect of being "targeted" religious pressure, but it's either so miniscule that I'm not seeing any difference, it's bugged, or I'm misunderstanding it.
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Jul 13, 2013 05:14
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Protagorean posted:But I already HAVE Civ IV. And all of the expansions. Literally the only bad part about that expansion.
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Jul 13, 2013 05:21
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Huh. I had a city-state gift me a Merchant of Venice. I didn't know the Patronage finisher would let you get Merchants of Venice. Yes you can use them to buy out city-states. Not that I really want to, their World Congress votes are too valuable.
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Jul 13, 2013 05:22
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Brannock posted:Huh. I had a city-state gift me a Merchant of Venice. I didn't know the Patronage finisher would let you get Merchants of Venice. Well, you could have city states gift Khans before so it makes sense. It's absolutely absurd but it makes sense.
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Jul 13, 2013 05:40
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