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Do any of you guys ever get the problem where the game has progressed to a point where you know you are going to win so you just stop and make a new game instead of finishing off the last hour or two?
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Jul 18, 2013 17:54
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BadLlama posted:Do any of you guys ever get the problem where the game has progressed to a point where you know you are going to win so you just stop and make a new game instead of finishing off the last hour or two?
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Jul 18, 2013 17:56
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BadLlama posted:Do any of you guys ever get the problem where the game has progressed to a point where you know you are going to win so you just stop and make a new game instead of finishing off the last hour or two? Quite frequently. BNW has really helped with that, though, because games are way less "conclusively won" at 99% of points.
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Jul 18, 2013 17:58
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nimby posted:Do you mean with your initial settler, or after having gotten your initial city/cities done? Initial settler, that's why I said it'd slow the start down. Sure it is probably a terrible idea, but hey, sometimes the worst ideas are the most fun!  e: If I was going to wait for initial cities I'd do another Civ for sure. Tsurupettan fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Jul 18, 2013 |
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Jul 18, 2013 17:59
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Tsurupettan posted:Initial settler, that's why I said it'd slow the start down. Sure it is probably a terrible idea, but hey, sometimes the worst ideas are the most fun! I think I might try that. Marathon on a Huge Terra map, so the ~40 turns lost finding the new world and a decent place to settle aren't that big of a waste!
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Jul 18, 2013 18:01
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Has anyone had trouble with some achievements not unlocking? I finished a game with America, taking a science victory. Didn't get either of the achievements for it. I did, however, get one for nuking Berlin.
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Jul 18, 2013 18:06
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Seejay posted:Has anyone had trouble with some achievements not unlocking? I finished a game with America, taking a science victory. Didn't get either of the achievements for it. Yeah, a large number of achievements are bugged. Was thinking about this earlier, I definitely wouldn't begrudge Firaxis if they came out with a WWII DLC scenario pack with the condition that they change up Germany, Japan, America, and Russia a bit.
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Jul 18, 2013 18:11
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Triskelli posted:Yeah, a large number of achievements are bugged. Now that Poland is in the game there needs to be a Deluge scenario. e: Well I can't move my settler without the game crashing. On loving turn 282. Thanks a lot, game.
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Jul 18, 2013 18:23
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I think the strangest thing about archaeology in this game is the fact that your immortal god-emperor thinks that digging up trinkets is in any way important. "Oooooh! I found a bead in the ground from when I personally ordered this city to be razed! So exciting!"
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Jul 18, 2013 18:24
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Tsurupettan posted:Hah, I completely forgot about inquisitors. Speaking of Terra maps, I was considering starting as the Polynesians and booking for the new world right away. Gotta live up to that legacy, you know? Slows down start a bit, but you get a completely unmolested continent all to yourself. When you do this, come back and let me know if the AI makes any effort at all to colonize the new world. In vanilla and G&K they wouldn't even try outside of extremely rare circumstances so you'd basically have half the map to yourself which is no fun. :<
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Jul 18, 2013 18:29
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Pvt.Scott posted:I think the strangest thing about archaeology in this game is the fact that your immortal god-emperor thinks that digging up trinkets is in any way important. Yeah, they got images of the actual great artworks, clips of the actual great music works, and narrated excerpts from great writings, and yet they're still like "gently caress it, let's just have them find beads and arrowheads when they dig". Give us some preserved corpses in peat bogs, mummies, big rear end jewels, shrunken heads, sarcophagi, buried treasure, etc...
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Jul 18, 2013 18:33
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Pvt.Scott posted:I think the strangest thing about archaeology in this game is the fact that your immortal god-emperor thinks that digging up trinkets is in any way important. Maybe he/she just wants to reminisce about the good old days?
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Jul 18, 2013 18:33
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There should be a New World script that puts Hiawatha on the new continent alone.. Just imagine all of the cities!
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Jul 18, 2013 18:35
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Pvt.Scott posted:There should be a New World script that puts Hiawatha on the new continent alone.. Just imagine all of the cities! You can get the earth maps pack mod and set it for true start locations. You get a lot of Europe and Asia and usually two or three New World civs. The really neat thing since BNW is that Europe isn't as crowded; so many of the BNW civs were non-European that you don't always have six civs packed into fifteen hexes in Europe any more.
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Jul 18, 2013 18:37
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Well, I've tried verifying the cache, I've tried reloading an old autosave, I've tried waiting a couple turns before moving the unit. Apparently the only way for me to continue the game is to just delete this settler and make a new one and set back my colonisation by some 20 turns for no loving reason.
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Jul 18, 2013 18:42
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Can someone give me a very basic outline of the (earlier) technologies I should pursue as a Cultural Ramses?
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Jul 18, 2013 18:51
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Tsurupettan posted:Initial settler, that's why I said it'd slow the start down. Sure it is probably a terrible idea, but hey, sometimes the worst ideas are the most fun! Ok, I've done this now on Marathon/Huge. I'm not that far behind as I thought I'd be at turn 100, only thing I missed out on that I really wanted was Desert Folklore. But I got extremely lucky and my capital on the "New" World has 4 sheep, 2 wheat, gold, stone and iron. Plus 13 or something desert hills. Finding loads of Ancient Ruins over here as well. Polynesia is cheating on a Terra map, you can go pick up all those ruins for free even if you settle at the start of the game.
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Jul 18, 2013 18:55
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ufarn posted:Can someone give me a very basic outline of the (earlier) technologies I should pursue as a Cultural Ramses? Early Education is a must for almost every kind of play. The fact that key cultural and religious techs (Drama and Poetry, Philosophy, Theology) are on the way to Education is just gravy. Usually I'll just get the techs for my luxuries, as well as Writing for libraries (The Great Library if you believe you can get it in before turn ~55) and The Wheel for city connections, and if I don't have any pressing military needs I'll move towards Philosophy for the National College, and continue on my way to Education from there. e: also Animal Husbandry to start some caravans off, depending on when you start to feel the money squeeze
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Jul 18, 2013 19:00
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So, they -have- fixed AI on Terra maps?
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Jul 18, 2013 19:03
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Fryhtaning posted:Yeah, they got images of the actual great artworks, clips of the actual great music works, and narrated excerpts from great writings, and yet they're still like "gently caress it, let's just have them find beads and arrowheads when they dig". Sounds like a cool thing for a mod to do.
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Jul 18, 2013 19:07
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BadLlama posted:Do any of you guys ever get the problem where the game has progressed to a point where you know you are going to win so you just stop and make a new game instead of finishing off the last hour or two? Yes, frequently. I play for the excitement, and once the excitement of winning is gone because it's a foregone conclusion, there's no point in playing for me. However, as said above, BNW has helped with this immensely.
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Jul 18, 2013 19:07
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nimby posted:Ok, I've done this now on Marathon/Huge. I'm not that far behind as I thought I'd be at turn 100, only thing I missed out on that I really wanted was Desert Folklore. But I got extremely lucky and my capital on the "New" World has 4 sheep, 2 wheat, gold, stone and iron. Plus 13 or something desert hills. Glad to hear this, will definitely give it a go myself! I normally avoid marathon because the extra length involved, but it sounds really beneficial here. There any other distinct advantages to picking up Marathon over Standard?
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Jul 18, 2013 19:17
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Anybody else playing this on a Mid-2010 Macbook Pro? I just finished my first game (Venice, Prince, Standard Continents with 6 players) and halfway through the game I had to play it in Strategic View because it was starting to chug pretty badly. Is it basically "suck it up and bootcamp" or am I missing something besides "turn everything down to low and cross your fingers"? vvvvv Ugh, figured that was the case. I still absolutely love this game even if I have to play through it in Strategic View. chami fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Jul 18, 2013 |
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Jul 18, 2013 19:19
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chami posted:Anybody else playing this on a Mid-2010 Macbook Pro? I just finished my first game (Venice, Prince, Standard Continents with 6 players) and halfway through the game I had to play it in Strategic View because it was starting to chug pretty badly. Is it basically "suck it up and bootcamp" or am I missing something besides "turn everything down to low and cross your fingers"? Bootcamp won't help. Turning all the graphics down, quitting programs, etc. will help, but the game is designed 1) for PCs and 2) for better hardware, unfortunately. I really wish that this game (and XCOM and others) had 'low' graphics options that were much, much lower than they currently are, for this reason. But yeah, I usually end up in strategic view by the Industrial era. Might also be the summer heat: laptops are sensitive, and mine always do better in the chilly winter than when it's 85 degrees in my apartment.
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Jul 18, 2013 19:23
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Do Siege Towers keep all the special poo poo (Sapper, Cover 1, +1 Sight) if you upgrade them to Trebuchets?
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Jul 18, 2013 19:31
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ufarn posted:Can someone give me a very basic outline of the (earlier) technologies I should pursue as a Cultural Ramses? Leverage your temple replacement and bonus to building wonders. I guess the best way to go would be Animal Husbandry -> Pottery -> Mining -> Writing -> Build Great Library -> Calendar -> Drama and Poetry -> Philosophy Free Tech -> Build National Collage -> Theology -> Build Parthenon Should give you a religion with some luck, along with the temple replacement for extra happy, and you can definitely get Great Library on Emperor or below with Egypt. Just make sure to pick up Cathedrals if you can! You probably won't get both the Parthenon and GL, but again with some luck you might get both, especially on King and below. If you are rushed, divert to The Wheel and get out Chariot Archers to cover some early growth. Oh and do remember to chop your wonders still. A Tartan Tory fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Jul 18, 2013 |
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Jul 18, 2013 19:40
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Kyrosiris posted:Do Siege Towers keep all the special poo poo (Sapper, Cover 1, +1 Sight) if you upgrade them to Trebuchets? I was disappointed to find they only keep Cover 1. Sapper is gone and they go back to the reduced sight of other siege units. Keep them as towers as long as you can.
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Jul 18, 2013 19:42
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I have to say, upgraded Winged Hussar Helicopter Gunships are my favorite unit ever.
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Jul 18, 2013 19:44
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Okay, Napoleon got bit uppity and settled on my side of the continent. He was stuck for ages with three cities due to the mountains cutting off access to the rest of the continent. He has bazillion wonders in Paris and is clearly going for culture victory. Of course that won't do.  What would you guys do at this situation. Annex, puppet, raze? I will keep the three main cities at the end of France's peninsula, but this city here really isn't that amazing at all.
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Jul 18, 2013 19:59
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A Tartan Tory posted:Leverage your temple replacement and bonus to building wonders. Why do people go for the Parthenon so strongly? Is the Great Work that big a deal?
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Jul 18, 2013 20:09
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Friction posted:Okay, Napoleon got bit uppity and settled on my side of the continent. He was stuck for ages with three cities due to the mountains cutting off access to the rest of the continent. He has bazillion wonders in Paris and is clearly going for culture victory. Raze. If you really want those truffles, they're within range of your city to the north.
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Jul 18, 2013 20:13
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Why do people go for the Parthenon so strongly? Is the Great Work that big a deal? If you want to win a cultural victory? Yeah, it really is.
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Jul 18, 2013 20:15
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Why do people go for the Parthenon so strongly? Is the Great Work that big a deal? It is considering how early you get it, when +2 tourism is a significant chunk of most civs' culture per turn.
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Jul 18, 2013 20:15
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Pvt.Scott posted:There should be a New World script that puts Hiawatha on the new continent alone.. Just imagine all of the cities! I played a massive custom earth map with historical starting locations in G&K, and one of the launch options removes America from the game for historical flavor. It wasn't until I discovered the New World that I realized my terrible, terrible mistake. I should do that again. Would be fun to watch the Shoshone and the Iroquois fight over a continent.
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Jul 18, 2013 20:42
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What map type do you guys play on. Continents Plus makes some gorgeous maps. But seems to shove every single city state, onto islands. Fractal seems to work well, but it doesn't offer any customization options.
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Jul 18, 2013 21:09
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thehumandignity posted:It is considering how early you get it, when +2 tourism is a significant chunk of most civs' culture per turn. Hrm. After I've gotten library and Colossus (and lighthouse if playing a naval civ) I usually go for the Hagia for the great prophet. What difference does that extra tourism make that early on? In game terms? Wouldn't the Oracle be a better choice? I feel like I'm missing something.
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Jul 18, 2013 21:13
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UberJumper posted:What map type do you guys play on. Continents Plus makes some gorgeous maps. But seems to shove every single city state, onto islands. PerfectWorld3 is my favorite, or GEM if I want an Earth map, but I don't think it's been updated with BNW civs yet.
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Jul 18, 2013 21:15
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UberJumper posted:What map type do you guys play on. Continents Plus makes some gorgeous maps. But seems to shove every single city state, onto islands. You can modify the continents script pretty easily to still create the beautiful continents, but keep teh city states (mostly) confined to land.
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Jul 18, 2013 21:22
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Are Customs Houses ever worthwhile? With only +4 gold they look like pieces of poo poo. Perhaps the extra base income boosts trade routes noticeably?
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Jul 18, 2013 21:26
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Hrm. After I've gotten library and Colossus (and lighthouse if playing a naval civ) I usually go for the Hagia for the great prophet. What difference does that extra tourism make that early on? In game terms? Wouldn't the Oracle be a better choice? I feel like I'm missing something. I haven't personally built the Parthenon yet, but the appeal seems pretty obvious: It means you start the late-game tourism race with a chunk of influence already in place, instead of having to play catch-up vs. the entire backlog of other civs' accumulated culture. It's an investment that hopefully pays off in a faster culture victory, not something you do for short-term benefits.
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Jul 18, 2013 21:27
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