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HORATIO HORNBLOWER: Sep 21, 2002; no ambition,
no talent,
no chance

what kind of loving idiot uses three spaces to indent god it's so aggravating

# ? Jul 18, 2013 22:59

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abraham linksys: Sep 6, 2010

HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:

what kind of loving idiot uses three spaces to indent god it's so aggravating

had this loving poo poo in a bunch of html templates in our codebase

was incredibly obnoxious

# ? Jul 18, 2013 23:16

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

abraham linksys posted:

had this loving poo poo in a bunch of html templates in our codebase

was incredibly obnoxious

yeah, markup languages in a code base? that'd piss me off too

also dont use orms use stored procedures

# ? Jul 18, 2013 23:47

power botton: Nov 2, 2011

orms are the worst loving thing ever

# ? Jul 18, 2013 23:48

power botton: Nov 2, 2011

sorry for the controversial opinions.

also i just learned that django-admin can generate models/migrations whatever from an existing db which owns. lol that rails can't do that.

# ? Jul 18, 2013 23:49

MrMoo: Sep 14, 2000

Bizarro Buddha posted:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/e5ewb1h3(v=vs.80).aspx

Developers, developers, developers. They get all the worst tools on Windows.

Actually I think The Carmack said Windows debugging has been improving recently, he previously used Linux ports for Valgrind.

http://www.develop-online.net/news/43192/Carmack-No-mainstream-business-case-for-Linux

# ? Jul 19, 2013 00:45

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

Jonny 290 posted:

yeah, markup languages in a code base? that'd piss me off too

also dont use orms use stored procedures

it's just kinda depressing when you do it

# ? Jul 19, 2013 01:34

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

i like ORMs when theyre like

but probably not if im gonna be maintaining it. spring data is hella cool tho

# ? Jul 19, 2013 01:44

Plastic Snake: Mar 2, 2005; For Halloween or scaring people.

entity framework is okay if you only use like half the features and only for super simple CRUD stuff. anything involving multiple tables is automatically sql/stored proc territory

# ? Jul 19, 2013 06:22

shrughes: Oct 11, 2008; (call/cc call/cc)

I think the 3-space indent thing comes from some version of BLOODSHED Dev-C++ that defaulted to a 3-space indent. Have any other tools in the history of mankind done that?

# ? Jul 19, 2013 07:17

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

Jonny 290 posted:

yeah, markup languages in a code base? that'd piss me off too

also dont use orms use stored procedures

# ? Jul 19, 2013 13:34

Socracheese: Oct 20, 2008

in django i make my db be compatible with the orm and i use it when its easy like

user = User.objects.get(name="shitlord mcfuckstein")

but i write my own sql queries when i need to do anything like multiple relations

where does that put me on the pro/scrub scale

# ? Jul 19, 2013 15:49

Janitor Prime: Jan 22, 2004; PC LOAD LETTER

What da fuck does that mean; Fun Shoe

scrub

# ? Jul 19, 2013 15:58

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

scrub points for django and orm.
pro points if you are using a statement mapper for the sql
doublescrub points if your query is sitting in code
triplescrub points if you aren't at least using parameterized sql.

# ? Jul 19, 2013 16:04

Socracheese: Oct 20, 2008

I do parametrized sql but yeah my queries hang out in my code

its not a very big project and i am in charge and the least ignorant on these topics

i have never heard of statement mapping

i probably need to read a book

e: honestly is there really a 'pro' way to do webdev (pre-emptive shaggar response: 'yes use java')

# ? Jul 19, 2013 16:14

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

Socracheese posted:

honestly is there really a 'pro' way to do webdev (pre-emptive shaggar response: 'yes use .net mvvm')

# ? Jul 19, 2013 16:21

power botton: Nov 2, 2011

asp mvc 4 with knockout.js, which is conveniently included by default

# ? Jul 19, 2013 16:25

trex eaterofcadrs: Jun 17, 2005; My lack of understanding is only exceeded by my lack of concern.

Socracheese posted:

I do parametrized sql but yeah my queries hang out in my code

its not a very big project and i am in charge and the least ignorant on these topics

i have never heard of statement mapping

i probably need to read a book

e: honestly is there really a 'pro' way to do webdev (pre-emptive shaggar response: 'yes use java')

java + spring/guava + hibernate/mybatis + tomcat/jetty/glassfish + postgres/mssql -> success

# ? Jul 19, 2013 16:43

Plastic Snake: Mar 2, 2005; For Halloween or scaring people.

what is a statement mapper? my queries hang out in code so doublescrub points for me I guess

# ? Jul 19, 2013 16:47

uG: Apr 23, 2003; by Ralp

quote:

The subject of object/relational mapping technologies came up, and it was there and then that I first coined the phrase, "Object/relational mapping is the Vietnam of Computer Science".

http://blogs.tedneward.com/2006/06/26/The+Vietnam+Of+Computer+Science.aspx

# ? Jul 19, 2013 16:55

Bizarro Buddha: Feb 11, 2007

Slides about the different pointer types in Rust, particularly borrowed pointers.

http://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/pubs/2013.07.17-NEU.pdf

You can template Rust functions on the lifetime of a variable.

# ? Jul 19, 2013 17:32

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

Plastic Snake posted:

what is a statement mapper? my queries hang out in code so doublescrub points for me I guess

basically you map a method and its parameters in code to a sql statement and parameters. For example lets say you have the statement

Java code:

List<Boner> boners = bonerTown.getBoners(int length, int girth);

And have a stored proc named getBonersByLengthAndGirth_sel_sp that we want to execute when the method is called.

now traditionally you might have the bonerTown object contain some database code that builds the sql or maybe does some orm crap. with a statement mapper you say "map the call to getBoners in my code to getBonersByLengthAndGirth_sel_sp in my list of statements. Here is an example of the map:

XML code:

<statement id="getBoners" resultClass="Boner">
CALL getBonersByLengthAndGirth_sel_sp({length},{girth})
</statement>

Then you have 2 options. You could instantiate a mapper object and tell it to run a statement and give you the result ex:

code:

public List<Boner> getBoners(int length, int girth)
{
Map<String,String> paramMap = new HashMap<String,String>();
paramMap.put("length",length);
paramMap.put("girth",girth);
return this.mapper.getList("getBoners",paramMap);
}

This builds a parameter map and calls a statement with the id "getBoners" and returns the result (as a list). But this is a silly extra step cause we can just use mybaits-spring to figure out which statement to call based on the name of the method and what parameters go where in the statement based on parameter name. Since the method name and the id of the statement match and the parameter names match, spring-mybatis can create a proxy object so any time you call bonerTown.getBoners the call is intercepted and it handles mapping the statement + params and running the sql.

When you do this correctly there is no mention of any database stuff anywhere in your code and the implementation can be a runtime dependency instead of a compile time dependency. This way you can make ur tests eaiser and also do do cool stuff like swap a local database implementation of the interface for a remote service interface. Super handy!

its pretty good and way nicer than trying to manage sql in code like some weirdo or getting stuck refactoring a bunch of poo poo when you decide you want to change the implementation.

# ? Jul 19, 2013 17:52

FamDav: Mar 29, 2008

shaggar stylin on bitches itt

# ? Jul 19, 2013 18:53

SavageMessiah: Jan 28, 2009; Emotionally drained and spookified; Toilet Rascal

I don't usually agree with the shags but all my java+db projects are rockin mybatis-guice

# ? Jul 19, 2013 23:09

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php:

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obstipator posted:

node is cool & good. eat poo poo haterz

if you don't want callback hell, try out this thing: https://github.com/visionmedia/co
the good nodejs guy that made express and other things made it, so it's probs good. someone here try it out and tell me if its good so i dont have to waste my`are hard earned time testing it

node isn't really that great actually, because you have to use javascript. cya

# ? Jul 20, 2013 03:13

havelock: Jan 20, 2004; IGNORE ME; Soiled Meat

I like to use stored procs because every time I need to filter or sort differently I get to write a whole other new sproc and then configure it with my statement mapper. Sometimes I'm lazy and just do basic operations easily handled by a database in memory instead after loading the whole object set, though.

# ? Jul 20, 2013 03:31

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

i'm making a browser extension is there an alternative to javascript?

# ? Jul 20, 2013 03:48

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