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StandardVC10 posted:They're very rare these days. I think they got a namedrop in Goldfinger. There's at least one still flying around in the US, although I have no idea how the owners can afford to keep running it. Since even the later Jetstar models are running 1970's vintage engines, they'll typically burn through a bit more than twice as much fuel for a given flight as a modern Learjet, and I'm sure parts are getting to be pretty expensive as well. Due to a quirk in how Lockheed designed the pressurization system in the Jetstar, it also requires at least one engine to remain at a pretty high power setting through descent, since the engines can't produce enough bleed air to keep the cabin pressurized at idle.
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azflyboy posted:There's at least one still flying around in the US, although I have no idea how the owners can afford to keep running it. Since even the later Jetstar models are running 1970's vintage engines, they'll typically burn through a bit more than twice as much fuel for a given flight as a modern Learjet, and I'm sure parts are getting to be pretty expensive as well. Is that why it has a speed brake? hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Jul 21, 2013 |
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The local AME/A&P school has the first JetStar which only has two engines. It's kind of a neat piece of history:
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hobbesmaster posted:Is that why it has a speed brake? I'd guess the airbrake was primarily to get the aircraft to slow down (since it lacks spoilers), but I've heard that it was effective enough to allow the aircraft to descend with one engine spooled enough to maintain pressurization.
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azflyboy posted:There's at least one still flying around in the US, although I have no idea how the owners can afford to keep running it. Since even the later Jetstar models are running 1970's vintage engines, they'll typically burn through a bit more than twice as much fuel for a given flight as a modern Learjet, and I'm sure parts are getting to be pretty expensive as well. Well, the one in my picture was flying as of 2006, but the flight tracker sites show its last flight being 5 years ago. N6QZ. And at least they aren't as goofy looking as the Sabreliner!
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Seeing those pictures reminded me of kind of a funny story. We were taxiing back to our hangar at NAS Whidbey one evening and there was an Air Force heavy on the flight line that was up on jacks. I can't remember what kind of plane it was unfortunately. I told one of the guys on our crew that I'd give him 20 bucks if he laid underneath the wheels for 5 minutes. His response was a hearty "Go gently caress yourself." e: SyHopeful posted:Well, the one in my picture was flying as of 2006, but the flight tracker sites show its last flight being 5 years ago. N6QZ. Don't be badmouthing my Sabreliner.
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SyHopeful posted:And at least they aren't as goofy looking as the Sabreliner! Hey now! SABR on a Sabre
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# ? Jul 21, 2013 07:57 |
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There are a couple Saberliners in the Monstrocity climbing structure at the City Museum. But they also have a Jet Star hull in the garage that will eventually be incorporated in getting the entire structure up to the 10th story roof. Really looking forward to seeing what they do with it.
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# ? Jul 21, 2013 07:59 |
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Yesterday I was at the Royal International Air Tattoo which was amazing and I took over 2,000 photos, some of which I'll post in the next couple of days. Today I'm on a campsite directly in line with the runway and so far today I've had the Vulcan, an F16,two Eurofighters and their refueller and the French Air Force display team fly directly overhead at less than 1,000 ft. So good!
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Slo-Tek posted:There are a couple Saberliners in the Monstrocity climbing structure at the City Museum. That looks like a tetanus-ridden deathtrap, and I want to go play in it!
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vulturesrow posted:Seeing those pictures reminded me of kind of a funny story. We were taxiing back to our hangar at NAS Whidbey one evening and there was an Air Force heavy on the flight line that was up on jacks. I can't remember what kind of plane it was unfortunately. I told one of the guys on our crew that I'd give him 20 bucks if he laid underneath the wheels for 5 minutes. His response was a hearty "Go gently caress yourself." Getting caught underneath something that can squish you while on jacks is a big no-no. There are wonderful pictures all over the hangar of jack failures. Some of them have captions like "that's not a pool of hydraulic fluid" and "it's surprising how much blood a body holds" and stuff like that.
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Godholio posted:That looks like a tetanus-ridden deathtrap, and I want to go play in it! Yeah I can't imagine any municipality's legal team signing off on that.
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:Getting caught underneath something that can squish you while on jacks is a big no-no. There are wonderful pictures all over the hangar of jack failures. Some of them have captions like "that's not a pool of hydraulic fluid" and "it's surprising how much blood a body holds" and stuff like that. The offer was made somewhat tongue in cheek. Im quite aware that getting caught underneath wheels of a giant airplane would be detrimental to your health.
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vulturesrow posted:Seeing those pictures reminded me of kind of a funny story. We were taxiing back to our hangar at NAS Whidbey one evening and there was an Air Force heavy on the flight line that was up on jacks. I can't remember what kind of plane it was unfortunately. I told one of the guys on our crew that I'd give him 20 bucks if he laid underneath the wheels for 5 minutes. His response was a hearty "Go gently caress yourself." The P-3 in my photos last page is from NAS Whidbey. In fact, I lived in Oak Harbor for about a year, but this was back in 01-02. If you've ever heard of a P-3 driver nicknamed Willy Pete, he used to be my neighbor.
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Godholio posted:That looks like a tetanus-ridden deathtrap, and I want to go play in it! Did I mention that it is open till midnight on weekends, and has stingray petting, a circus, helical slides that go from the roof down the central airshaft to the basement, a life sized concrete right whale, a ferris wheel on the roof, and three bars? It is considerably bonkers, everybody I've ever taken there says "This is insane, how is it legal?" Also, the day after halloween, they clear the parking lot and let you throw pumpkins off the roof into/near/not very near the dumpster 10 stories below? They have a goodly supply of clearance pumpkins, but you can BYO. Slo-Tek fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Jul 21, 2013 |
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One of the photos I took at RIAT this year while the rest of them download from the camera. It's an F16 from the Royal Netherlands Air Force.
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Slo-Tek posted:Did I mention that it is open till midnight on weekends, and has stingray petting, a circus, helical slides that go from the roof down the central airshaft to the basement, a life sized concrete right whale, a ferris wheel on the roof, and three bars? Holy poo poo after googling this museum I know what I am doing the next time I am in St. Louis.
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Daveh posted:One of the photos I took at RIAT this year while the rest of them download from the camera. It's an F16 from the Royal Netherlands Air Force. I really like that. Did you crop it at all?
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iyaayas01 posted:Holy poo poo after googling this museum I know what I am doing the next time I am in St. Louis. Say up when you're in town. It is a really excellent place for a long weekend, everything worth doing is either world class, or free, or both. There is a quaint little air museum with about 4 rooms worth of McDonnell brickabrack from the Mercury/Gemini/Phantom days, and perhaps more than our share of airplanes on sticks infront of public buildings, but way way less than you'd expect for being the home of McAir....though there is that junkyard with the F-105s, Dog Sabres, S-2, the front half of a B-52, and a double fistfull of vietnam era helicopters. Slo-Tek fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jul 21, 2013 |
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Slo-Tek posted:Did I mention that it is open till midnight on weekends, and has stingray petting, a circus, helical slides that go from the roof down the central airshaft to the basement, a life sized concrete right whale, a ferris wheel on the roof, and three bars? So this is the 2010s version of Action Park
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gently caress, it's in St Louis? I was there last month...fuuuuuuuck.
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Godholio posted:gently caress, it's in St Louis? I was there last month...fuuuuuuuck. I was there yesterday. I was there for a funeral though. I'll have to remember to check that out the next time I'm out that way.
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Daveh posted:One of the photos I took at RIAT this year while the rest of them download from the camera. It's an F16 from the Royal Netherlands Air Force. That looks like a painting
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Daveh posted:One of the photos I took at RIAT this year while the rest of them download from the camera. It's an F16 from the Royal Netherlands Air Force. Please tell me your other shots are this good, because that's fantastic.
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azflyboy posted:There's at least one still flying around in the US, although I have no idea how the owners can afford to keep running it. Since even the later Jetstar models are running 1970's vintage engines, they'll typically burn through a bit more than twice as much fuel for a given flight as a modern Learjet, and I'm sure parts are getting to be pretty expensive as well. Theres one at Atlantic at Midway in Chicago. I have to stop and peek into the hangar every time I'm there.
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Godholio posted:gently caress, it's in St Louis? I was there last month...fuuuuuuuck. There is something else to see besides the Bigfoot shop in St. Louis? Well, poo poo next time I'll have to stop by that place.
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# ? Jul 22, 2013 06:42 |
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Another Superjet 100 crash, this time gear up landing in Iceland. http://en.ria.ru/russia/20130721/182350967/Landing-Accident-Disrupts-Superjet-Test-Flight-in-Iceland.html
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Oops?
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holocaust bloopers posted:I really like that. Did you crop it at all? Fucknag posted:Please tell me your other shots are this good, because that's fantastic.
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Dr. Klas posted:Another Superjet 100 crash, this time gear up landing in Iceland. I'm pretty sure that most airlines prefer that demonstration flights not crash. Thus far, Sukhoi has not met said requirement with the SuperJet. A least this time the representatives get to tell their bosses 'aw hell naw' in person. Or whatever it is they say in Iceland. Ice-bork bork bork?
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D C posted:Theres one at Atlantic at Midway in Chicago. I have to stop and peek into the hangar every time I'm there. Hey, that's in my hangar (we're the 7X that's in there) - it actually flies once in a while, too. I love that leaky old bird and wish I could get some time in it so I could say I flew Pussy Galore's aircraft.
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Super jealous of the 7X. Tri jets are my favorite.
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Polymerized Cum posted:So this is the 2010s version of Action Park Nah man, Action Park was way more dangerous. I still have the scars.
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VikingSkull posted:Nah man, Action Park was way more dangerous. I still have the scars. Jesus Christ they had an enclosed water slide with a vertical loop in it
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That poo poo was a smokescreen, it was almost never opened. You'd walk in there, see that right at the bottom of the mountain, and be like "gently caress that, I'm doing the safe poo poo". Then you'd get scalped by the roller slide, knock your teeth out with your knee on the river raft thing, and finish it off by getting lifeflighted out after hitting the bridge over the alpine slide at 50mph.
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# ? Jul 22, 2013 19:30 |
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CNN is freaking out over a SWA flight who's nose gear collapsed on rwy 4 at LGA. sensationalism
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# ? Jul 22, 2013 23:41 |
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Did they really deploy the slides? Seems more dangerous than the landing.
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Southwest Airlines on Facebook posted:Southwest Airlines confirms emergency responders at New York's LaGuardia airport are assisting with an evacuation of #flight345 after the Boeing 737 arrived this evening from Nashville. We will provide further details when available.
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sellouts posted:Did they really deploy the slides? Seems more dangerous than the landing. Well, I'd prefer the slides to waiting for them to find an air stairs to drive to an active runway.
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It's not active anymore! And you'd have to wait for your stuff anyways. Oh well, at least everyone is presumably ok.
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