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Please give us $400,000 to dress in bad cosplay, and then film it. Final Fantasy VII the web series. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ffviiwebseries/final-fantasy-vii-the-web-series-unofficial-fan-pr
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the Gaffe posted:Please give us $400,000 to dress in bad cosplay, and then film it. Final Fantasy VII the web series. A THIRTEEN minute pitch video and the company logo and title screen take forty four seconds. Also the direction, camerawork and editing on the footage they have in the teaser is loving abysmal given that they expect nearly half a million to make this.
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Jul 23, 2013 19:24
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Fatkraken posted:A THIRTEEN minute pitch video and the company logo and title screen take forty four seconds. Also the direction, camerawork and editing on the footage they have in the teaser is loving abysmal given that they expect nearly half a million to make this. I will say this, the narrator has a very clear speaking voice. Better than a lot of KS videos I see. A lot better. Edit: While I'm only listening to the pitch, goddamn. This is a real pro pitch video. The General has a new favorite as of 19:35 on Jul 23, 2013 |
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Jul 23, 2013 19:31
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the Gaffe posted:Please give us $400,000 to dress in bad cosplay, and then film it. Final Fantasy VII the web series.  Is... I'm not stupid, right? There's no way that making a movie based on a video game, with that game's characters and plots, is covered by Fair Use, right? These guys are straight up trying to crowdfund a webseries which, by way of the fact that it is producing revenue, will make it a target for instant obliteration and litigation by SquareEnix.
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Jul 23, 2013 19:39
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Fatkraken posted:A THIRTEEN minute pitch video and the company logo and title screen take forty four seconds. Also the direction, camerawork and editing on the footage they have in the teaser is loving abysmal given that they expect nearly half a million to make this. I'm sure the game already has a far superior porn parody film.
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Jul 23, 2013 19:42
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the Gaffe posted:Please give us $400,000 to dress in bad cosplay, and then film it. Final Fantasy VII the web series. Ahahahahaha, they're clearly just fanboys asking for half a mil to make a movie, with no prior experience. It bothers me immensely that they've raised $5,000.
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Jul 23, 2013 19:44
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quote:What is your status with Square Enix? I'm not seeing where the huge beef with this project is. These people seem to be professional enough. Or atleast sociable enough, have their poo poo together and in all honesty, after listening to the pitch I'm confident they'll be able to do something with their funds. Maybe not all the grand things they have planned, but something.
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Jul 23, 2013 19:45
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Fatkraken posted:A THIRTEEN minute pitch video and the company logo and title screen take forty four seconds. Also the direction, camerawork and editing on the footage they have in the teaser is loving abysmal given that they expect nearly half a million to make this. I'm so used to garbage on KS that, at this point, the fact that they've got some reasonably competent (if not gifted) people working on it and are just asking for too much money for a thing no one really wants is actually a pleasant surprise
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Jul 23, 2013 19:46
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repiv posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFN4k-AFEbw Well they just raised $3,200,000 in one day.. so at this rate $32,000,000 isn't far off.
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Jul 23, 2013 19:49
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Packstand posted:Well they just raised $3,200,000 in one day.. so at this rate $32,000,000 isn't far off. This has been covered before and many times before. The initial rush is no indication of where the project will be in 30 days. I wouldn't expect them to keep pace of a million a day.
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Jul 23, 2013 19:52
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The General posted:This has been covered before and many times before. The initial rush is no indication of where the project will be in 30 days. I wouldn't expect them to keep pace of a million a day.
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Jul 23, 2013 19:55
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Packstand posted:Well they just raised $3,200,000 in one day.. so at this rate $32,000,000 isn't far off. The rate of funding changed quite dramatically once the $600 early bird special was taken down.
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Jul 23, 2013 19:56
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- We have sent several letters and emails to many departments of SE which we know have been received and read. Square's general legal counsel has been aware of this project for many months. "We wrote them mails, no reply yet. This is a good sign." - We have engaged in persistent dialog with the manager of SE online, who assured us that both the North American and European divisions were supportive of our efforts. "Suddenly, American and European branches of Japanese game companies have even the slightest say in company proceedings." - We have had the series trailer actually appear on the SE website. Where? Please don't say the forums. - We have acquired the music rights via a surrogate agency that gives us licensing permission with specific legal caveats. >surrogate agency >legal caveats Some choice morsels past that point: "tacit approval on some levels", "not officially endorsed by Square Enix", "eager to speak with SE about our project" Oh man, this is equally sad and amusing...
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Jul 23, 2013 20:01
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Jul 23, 2013 21:22
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You know, take away the Afro and considering the general JRPG "realistic age minus 20 years" rule, Mars here is the only thing about this that might actually *work*.
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Jul 23, 2013 21:32
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Give Spike Lee 1.250.000 Dollars because Veronica Mars got shitloads and he needs it to make... something. I couldn't get further into the video. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spikelee/the-newest-hottest-spike-lee-joint
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Jul 23, 2013 22:09
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My main problem is that all the characters they've shown so far have really bad costume design. They're mimicking how they looked in the game exactly, even if that look looks terrible in a real-world scenario. When you make a film adaptation, you adjust the character's clothes to make it look appropriate on an actual actor, not cling on to the authentic PS1 graphics they came from. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U36HbN0w8x4   it all just looks so gawdy
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Jul 23, 2013 22:10
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I always wonder how someone like that gets caught up in this sort of thing. I work with actors a lot, and they've generally got a really finely tuned scam radar after a couple years in the industry, where they can tell if a job is going to fail to utterly put food on their table or if they're going to end up in a weird porn film. Like at some point Mars thought this would involve paychecks. Who knows, maybe he got that all taken care of beforehand the gun arm is magical. It looks like a trashcan with empty toilet paper tubes stuck on it.
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Jul 23, 2013 22:16
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Today was a good day
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Jul 23, 2013 22:28
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Lodin posted:Give Spike Lee 1.250.000 Dollars because Veronica Mars got shitloads and he needs it to make... something. I couldn't get further into the video. If Warner Bros. can make millions off of crowdfunding for a dormant IP I don't see why Spike Lee shouldn't get a slice of that pie to make something unique. Unlike most KS film projects that need crowdfunding because they're too niche or too bad for traditional funding, I can honestly believe that Lee has some great movies in him that studios won't fund because  Even if you buy into the whole "black activists are the real racists  " talking point that gets thrown around every time he comments on anything or you find movies like Bamboozled to be preachy, the dude made Do The Right Thing and When the Levees Broke: A Requiem in Four Acts which puts him streets ahead of just about every other film talent that has turned to Kickstarter so far.QwertyAsher posted:I always wonder how someone like that gets caught up in this sort of thing. I work with actors a lot, and they've generally got a really finely tuned scam radar after a couple years in the industry, where they can tell if a job is going to fail to utterly put food on their table or if they're going to end up in a weird porn film. Maybe they're fans? Cosplay culture is weird, fans will spend thousands of dollars on costumes and dedicate god knows how much time and effort and money to fan films even when they know that it will get C&D'd to oblivion whenever they try and show them at conventions or sell them. ...of SCIENCE! has a new favorite as of 23:53 on Jul 23, 2013 |
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Jul 23, 2013 23:51
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the Gaffe posted:My main problem is that all the characters they've shown so far have really bad costume design. They're mimicking how they looked in the game exactly, even if that look looks terrible in a real-world scenario. When you make a film adaptation, you adjust the character's clothes to make it look appropriate on an actual actor, not cling on to the authentic PS1 graphics they came from. That and his gun arm is made of paper.
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Jul 24, 2013 02:16
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burritolingus posted:That and his gun arm is made of paper. That might be cannon. 
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Jul 24, 2013 02:22
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Hey, so, remember that schoolgirl tentacle rape game? Well, it's on Indiegogo now: Link Probably worth reporting to their support team.
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Jul 24, 2013 02:50
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^^^^ Unless it's a blindly obvious breach of their rules they don't care. I've reported loads of things early on that turned out to be scams and they said they 'extensively screen applications' or some junk. deadly_pudding posted:
There's not a chance in hell SquareEnix will allow this to go on. To be fair some fan series have done well for themselves. They've mistaken 13k people liking the video and going to their Facebook page with people who will pay money for it. Nuka Break was pretty good and while it hasn't officially been given the companies blessing it got referenced in one of the Fallout DLCs. It can be done but this doesn't look like it will be. ToG has a new favorite as of 03:08 on Jul 24, 2013 |
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Jul 24, 2013 03:02
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I don't know his checking account but shouldn't Spike Lee be able to produce this himself? Like, I'm a failed project creator so everything I say is a little off, but it makes me angry when people with industry connections make Kickstarters- it makes me sad that money did not go into other projects from talented people without those connections. Also, that it is not my money but that be the selfish side of me. Anyhow, just an update on my Awful Kickstarter, I know more what it means to be a boss now and in three days will begin my re-organization smart n' hard working plan. The first part of this is discussing with my team the plan and buying really really really cheap mock ups of the backgrounds I want and one really really cheap portrait of each character blank faced for place holders- then programming the game so that it goes from scene to scene right, then sending off to editors what is written to revise, revise, revise and finally plug in till I have a demo. Back on point- when I started with no connections I sent out 40 letters and countless emails to reach out, I got four responses if you include Penny Arcade's amazing two responses. Spike Lee has his own production company, can he really not round up the cash himself?
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Jul 24, 2013 03:05
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You don't get rich by spending your own money when you can avoid it. It's also way to garner a real check of interest. A lot of people might say "I'd watch that" or "I'd buy that" but if you actually get a whole bunch of people fronting the money straight up you know what kind of success you have at hand. Nintendo Kid has a new favorite as of 03:10 on Jul 24, 2013 |
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Jul 24, 2013 03:08
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deadly_pudding posted:
Square Enix never shut down 8-bit theater(unfortunately) and it was an unfunny webcomic that just used their assets ripped directly from games.
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Jul 24, 2013 03:14
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Rapdawg posted:I don't know his checking account but shouldn't Spike Lee be able to produce this himself? Like, I'm a failed project creator so everything I say is a little off, but it makes me angry when people with industry connections make Kickstarters- it makes me sad that money did not go into other projects from talented people without those connections. Also, that it is not my money but that be the selfish side of me. Anyhow, just an update on my Awful Kickstarter, I know more what it means to be a boss now and in three days will begin my re-organization smart n' hard working plan. The first part of this is discussing with my team the plan and buying really really really cheap mock ups of the backgrounds I want and one really really cheap portrait of each character blank faced for place holders- then programming the game so that it goes from scene to scene right, then sending off to editors what is written to revise, revise, revise and finally plug in till I have a demo. Just a friendly piece of advice, don't solicit advice and donations and then post in a way that might make people reconsider donating.
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Jul 24, 2013 03:18
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Evil Fluffy posted:Square Enix never shut down 8-bit theater(unfortunately) and it was an unfunny webcomic that just used their assets ripped directly from games. I'm not a fan so I could be totally wrong, but the difference is that 8-bit theater, although unfunny, did something original with Final Fantasy 1. They didn't just take Final Fantasy 1 and turn it into a comic. The guy made his own characters and stories and worlds using pre-existing sprite art. I think that kind of derivative work is protected under copyright law but again, not an expert there. With this Final Fantasy 7 fanfilm, it doesn't seem like they're not doing anything new or original or creative. They're taking someone else's characters, stories, and world, and just doing a movie of it. It's not even a huge leap as an adaptation, since FF7 was already kind set up as a movie, and you could probably edit cutscenes and footage from the game to make a coherent movie.
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Jul 24, 2013 03:43
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Rapdawg posted:I don't know his checking account but shouldn't Spike Lee be able to produce this himself? Like, I'm a failed project creator so everything I say is a little off, but it makes me angry when people with industry connections make Kickstarters- it makes me sad that money did not go into other projects from talented people without those connections. Also, that it is not my money but that be the selfish side of me. Anyhow, just an update on my Awful Kickstarter, I know more what it means to be a boss now and in three days will begin my re-organization smart n' hard working plan. The first part of this is discussing with my team the plan and buying really really really cheap mock ups of the backgrounds I want and one really really cheap portrait of each character blank faced for place holders- then programming the game so that it goes from scene to scene right, then sending off to editors what is written to revise, revise, revise and finally plug in till I have a demo. Your project failed because you had a bad idea and bad presentation with no prior history to releasing the product you were trying to get funding for. Spike Lee is a respected director with several projects under his belt that he's created, and as far as I'm concerned it's not in bad taste to ask for donations/preorders on a movie that Kickstarter might give him more creative freedom to make. Don't pull this poo poo where you think you're an industry bigwig that can have a bigger opinion than anyone else in this thread because you figured out how to hit the submit button on kickstarter. The fact that you're discussing how to gently caress your artists out of cash so you can have cheaper work done puts you in an extremely bad light, and I would never, *ever* support a person who exploits artists like that. If you truly believe it then take out a loan or a credit card and max it out, put your money where your mouth is and back that belief you have in your project with poo poo that matters. Spike Lee did that in the beginning of his career before he was famous, there's no reason why you can't either.
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Jul 24, 2013 04:45
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burritolingus posted:I'm not a fan so I could be totally wrong, but the difference is that 8-bit theater, although unfunny, did something original with Final Fantasy 1. They didn't just take Final Fantasy 1 and turn it into a comic. The guy made his own characters and stories and worlds using pre-existing sprite art. I think that kind of derivative work is protected under copyright law but again, not an expert there. If he had based the art on the sprites from FF1 it could maybe be protected by copyright law but the art was almost wholly ripped from the games. Story is pretty irrelevant in this case, AFAIK.
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Jul 24, 2013 05:27
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burritolingus posted:It's not even a huge leap as an adaptation, since FF7 was already kind set up as a movie, and you could probably edit cutscenes and footage from the game to make a coherent movie. That'd be a pretty good trick. Because FFVII is pretty lacking in the coherent story.  Watching the Spike Lee pitch, I have zero idea what's going on.
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Jul 24, 2013 06:45
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Rapdawg posted:I don't know his checking account but shouldn't Spike Lee be able to produce this himself? Like, I'm a failed project creator so everything I say is a little off, but it makes me angry when people with industry connections make Kickstarters- it makes me sad that money did not go into other projects from talented people without those connections. Also, that it is not my money but that be the selfish side of me. Anyhow, just an update on my Awful Kickstarter, I know more what it means to be a boss now and in three days will begin my re-organization smart n' hard working plan. The first part of this is discussing with my team the plan and buying really really really cheap mock ups of the backgrounds I want and one really really cheap portrait of each character blank faced for place holders- then programming the game so that it goes from scene to scene right, then sending off to editors what is written to revise, revise, revise and finally plug in till I have a demo. I hesitated responding the last time you posted because I wanted to see if you would do it again. Stop fishing for attention, it makes you sound like an idiot. I personally do not need daily updates about your dumb project on my comedy forum. And stop feeling like you are saving money by paying your artists so little. It will show in the finished project.
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Jul 24, 2013 07:07
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In regards to the Final Fantasy thing, I'd bet that publishers are just laying off fanboy poo poo on the internet unless it directly competes with their IP in some way. If they sent those people a cease and desist they would just look like assholes to the people who are buying their crap. I'm sure a FF7 remake kickstarter from a 3rd party wouldn't go over as well.
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Jul 24, 2013 07:11
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Rapdawg I think the best place to talk about your project is here http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3238861
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Jul 24, 2013 07:11
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The General posted:That'd be a pretty good trick. Because FFVII is pretty lacking in the coherent story. As far as I'm concerned the game was Al-Quaeda Simulator 1997.
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Jul 24, 2013 07:13
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I just want to clarify that when I said cheap cheap art, its because I'm literally asking them for the bare pencil on paper, not because I'm shorting them. The Penny Arcade thing was a joke because the response we got was "UNABLE TO DELIVER, COULD NOT FORWARD" which sums up a lot of things about my awful Kickstarter. That being said, will stop mentioning my project anymore and apologize for doing so.Horrible Smutbeast posted:Spike Lee is a respected director with several projects under his belt that he's created, and as far as I'm concerned it's not in bad taste to ask for donations/preorders on a movie that Kickstarter might give him more creative freedom to make. After looking into what hes done in the past, I'm conflicted and confused. On one hand I can see that for a lot of projects like Bamboozled he seems to have been given a lot of creative control, but looking at the box office returns I can see how it might be hard for him to get total control and a budget to match. Not sure, but I do think it would be interesting to see what he does with 100% total control. After reading this article- http://www.nextmovie.com/blog/spike-lee-kickstarter-movie-plot/ -I want his movie to be made just to compare the finished product with his pitch.
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Jul 24, 2013 08:28
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miguelito posted:So reading that woman's pitch, it seems to be a common thing for a certain type of Americans to clamber over that mountain in Turkey searching for Noah's Ark. You learn something new every day I guess. Surely the mountain is well-mapped and she'll be shown around by local guides, right? It's a pretty cool mountain, I climbed it last year (not american though. Cost about 2000 euro per person I'd guess), didn't find the ark but we did lose a camera, and it took forever to find it.
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Jul 24, 2013 09:30
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the Gaffe posted:My main problem is that all the characters they've shown so far have really bad costume design. They're mimicking how they looked in the game exactly, even if that look looks terrible in a real-world scenario. When you make a film adaptation, you adjust the character's clothes to make it look appropriate on an actual actor, not cling on to the authentic PS1 graphics they came from. Wasn't there a ridiculous amount of poo poo heaped on Advent Children when they change the character's costumes? I would actually give them props (?) on trying to be this faithful since lets face it, the only people who really care are the die hard fans that would probably nitpick the number of spikes on Cloud's hair. Costume aside, the cast actually seems reasonable and might actually work if they had more creative freedom in regards to the plot. I would pay to see this guy in a Dolemite or blaxploitation film. That or a buddy cop movie opposite of Samuel Jackson.
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OrganizedInsanity posted:I would pay to see this guy in a Dolemite or blaxploitation film. That or a buddy cop movie opposite of Samuel Jackson. I think its in Kickstarter's TOS that all buddy cop movies must consist of "one straight laced white cop who plays by the rules and either a wise cracking black partner who knows the streets (e.x. Chris Tucker in Rush Hour) or one who does the tough things no one else will (e.x. Odafin "Fin" Tutuola)" but that may have been an earlier version.
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