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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy#Evolution Look at the section on Lee Atwater (who was basically Karl Rove before Karl Rove). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy#21st_century Also the former RNC head, Ken Mehlmen basically apologized for the modern day GOP's racism when he visited the NAACP.
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Oooo ooo ooo! I finally got one! A buddy got this from his grandparents (who are racist as all hell) and figured I'd get a laugh out of it. So I present it to you guys to laugh at too. crazy grandparents posted:In honor of the 44th President of the United States , Baskin-Robbins Ice Cream has introduced a new flavor: Barocky Road
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Aug 8, 2013 14:31
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:I think it shows a level of deliberate racism that many people want to deny, which is what I think is important about it. I remember being surprised that a high-level member of Reagan's election team just came out and said that they used coded language to appeal to racist voters, but I wasn't particularly surprised by the tactic. What I was surprised by (being a worldly boy from suburban Minnesota) was the fact that a president in my lifetime decided that his election chances would be helped rather than hindered by pandering to crazy racists. Really, I think that that's a big part of the reason that so many people all over the country have lost their minds over President Obama. Yeah, he's black and they hate him for it, but moreover he's a symbol of their waning influence over national politics and the changing of the guard to a younger and hopefully less racist electorate. But holy poo poo are people still racist as gently caress in this country! Until Obama was elected I had no idea how bad it was out there. It's been a real eye opener.
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Aug 8, 2013 14:34
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There needs to be some kind of law against conservatives making puns. For everyone's sake.
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Aug 8, 2013 14:35
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Blarghalt posted:There needs to be some kind of law against
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Aug 8, 2013 14:36
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Radish posted:I am convinced that within 10 years there is going to be a serious push that people saying n***** are not racist and the middling cable TV media will be too cowardly to take a stand on the issue. Not really. If you hang around freeper types a lot you might get that impression but for the public at large dropping the n-bomb is still firmly in the "whoa dude. Not cool." territory.
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Aug 8, 2013 14:39
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RagnarokAngel posted:Not really. If you hang around freeper types a lot you might get that impression but for the public at large dropping the n-bomb is still firmly in the "whoa dude. Not cool." territory. Yea, but instead dogwhistle racism reigns supreme.
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Aug 8, 2013 14:41
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RagnarokAngel posted:Not really. If you hang around freeper types a lot you might get that impression but for the public at large dropping the n-bomb is still firmly in the "whoa dude. Not cool." territory. Freepers and/or tea party types may claim they're not racist, but if you're alone with one and they think you're one of them holy poo poo do the epitaphs start flowing.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Not really. If you hang around freeper types a lot you might get that impression but for the public at large dropping the n-bomb is still firmly in the "whoa dude. Not cool." territory. Maybe I am a pessimist but I think that the stigma is against the word and not what it means. People are still supremely racist and once enough of them feel they can be so openly without consequence I believe there will be a real push to go all out. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/08/07/anti-obama-protesters-get-racial-in-arizona/ While I'm sure these people aren't the majority they certainly have no reservations about being openly racist and also blaming Obama for making them act racist (in the same way being black makes certain white people scared and "have to defend themselves"). It feels like since Obama was elected, it's been getting more and more acceptable to push the racist envelope and more and more impolite to identify people as bigots. Part of that is probably the flailing of a dying ideology but it's really fighting hard and many places seem pleased to capitulate to it while few in high positions are willing to call it what it is. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Aug 8, 2013 |
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Aug 8, 2013 14:51
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Mitchicon posted:Yea, but instead dogwhistle racism reigns supreme. Oh yeah not disagreeing with that or saying that racism is dead or anything. A lot of "normal" people don't know racism means more than just yelling the n-word at a black guy and will say some pretty horrible things. I just think the n-word will forever be that "off limits" sort of deal that everyone just sort of collectively agrees is untouchable. You'll have a lot of people going "well why can THEY say it?" still but they know even if they don't like it they'll be ostracized for saying it.
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Aug 8, 2013 15:09
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Fausts Pen posted:Oooo ooo ooo! I finally got one! A buddy got this from his grandparents (who are racist as all hell) and figured I'd get a laugh out of it. So I present it to you guys to laugh at too. God, any time a right winger makes a metaphor, they have to beat you over the goddamn head with it. This is why they can't do humor. Half the time they're just yelling "Get it? GET IT?!"
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I think that its not that Obama made the racists more brazenly racists, I think it made the white people who don't see racism every day but knew it was there, think it had lessened. I'm not talking about the Republicans who justify restricting voting rights by saying Obama proves we're post racial, but more the white people who are insulated from the racism that keeps happening. From their perspective, yes, Obama has been elected, so a huge milestone for African Americans has been reached, so yes, racism is lesser now, so that prominent African American leaders are crying racist more now might be them slightly overreacting. So the racists capitalise on this by doing more and more racist poo poo.Zeroisanumber posted:I remember being surprised that a high-level member of Reagan's election team just came out and said that they used coded language to appeal to racist voters, but I wasn't particularly surprised by the tactic. What I was surprised by (being a worldly boy from suburban Minnesota) was the fact that a president in my lifetime decided that his election chances would be helped rather than hindered by pandering to crazy racists. A career of playing co-star to a chimp will do that to you, I suppose.
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Aug 8, 2013 15:38
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I have nothing but disdain for Reagan. For some odd reason, a paranoid, lovely person makes a paranoid, lovely president. Weird. I think I posted this before but when my grandfather died, my uncle was being an obnoxious rear end and I called him out on it. I guess making the link between "those rappers are all about shooting poo poo up and friend of the family this and friend of the family that" and him parroting poo poo about Obama from Fox News makes me the rear end in a top hat in the room when I insisted that he should just come clean and say he doesn't like the president because he's black. "ARE YOU CALLING ME A RACIST!? " I can only assume that the face I made I response looked like 
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Aug 8, 2013 15:52
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This has popped up THREE TIMES today, all from soon to be mothers that I am friends with on Facebook. quote:Courts quietly confirm MMR Vaccine causes Autism... blah blah blah The reaction to my criticism has been odd: Two were straight up hostile, one even called me a shill for big pharma! The other used the equally annoying "I'm just asking questions" bit. I want to know if there is ANYTHING that works to talk sense into these kind of people? I usually just laugh at the conspiracy poo poo, as most of it is harmless, but the anti-vax movement is actively endangering people. That bothers me. Also another guy responded to one of theses posts with a image macro from the GBS thread about the anti-vax movement, that brought up animal fat and proteins being in vaccines, and then told them to go to meatspin for more info. I laughed pretty hard about that. The might be the best way to handle these people, as you can't really reason with them.
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Iunnrais posted:This showed up on my facebook from someone I consider a friend, and it made me so mad I can't even coherently respond to it. The War on Drugs was started in 1971. You had 42 years to get it right. $1 trillion of our money was confiscated, and drugs are still winning. Dirt posted:Also another guy responded to one of theses posts with a image macro from the GBS thread about the anti-vax movement, that brought up animal fat and proteins being in vaccines, and then told them to go to meatspin for more info. I laughed pretty hard about that. The might be the best way to handle these people, as you can't really reason with them. Please post any funny fallout from that.
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Aug 8, 2013 16:10
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"If the war on drugs was a real war, drugs would be goose stepping down the streets of DC right now."
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Fulchrum posted:Reagans tactics also involved stealing Carters debate notes so he could know which lies Carter couldn't counter. There was very little Reagan would not stoop to. The man had absolutely no shame. Do you happen to have a link to any info on this? As to the racism towards President Obama, I always got the impression people hate him because there is a big old D after his name, the black part is just the avenue the attacks take. Not that the people aren't racist but they really hate democrats more. So even if the whitest person running as a Democrat in 08 and 12 had won they would still hate him and be attacking him hey just would have found another avenue to take. Look at how much they hated Clinton and to this day still speak poorly of Carter.
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Blarghalt posted:Freepers and/or tea party types may claim they're not racist, but if you're alone with one and they think you're one of them holy poo poo do the epitaphs start flowing. Dirt posted:This has popped up THREE TIMES today, all from soon to be mothers that I am friends with on Facebook.
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Aug 8, 2013 16:27
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Dirt posted:This has popped up THREE TIMES today, all from soon to be mothers that I am friends with on Facebook. I want to know if there was actually a media event that sparked this. It came back up a few weeks ago, all I can find is couple of lovely blog articles like this one with the first appearing to come July 27th. So was it just a blogger talking out of their rear end that got things rolling, or was there a protest or something? Also, fun part, that article I linked to was posted on Facebook by a colleague of mine that has a PhD in chemistry. 
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Aug 8, 2013 17:01
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https://www.facebook.com/notes/reik...617925554892320 I love the sincere use of Dees illustrations.
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Aug 8, 2013 17:18
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What's great about that anti vax site article is if you click on the source it brings you to the original aticle and web site with an update at the bottom refuting the entire article.
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Aug 8, 2013 17:18
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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This thread always makes me think about this Onion article.
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Aug 8, 2013 17:24
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Stop being friends with those types of people. Don't be friends with people who willingly abuse their children and expose other children to serious diseases.
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Aug 8, 2013 17:29
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If we did that we wouldn't have this amazing thread. Joking of course. Those people should have no friends. One of my wife's friends almost had my wife not vaccinating our children. I was not pleased.
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Aug 8, 2013 17:35
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Sir Rolo posted:https://www.facebook.com/notes/reik...617925554892320 Nearly everything is either [citation needed] or a link to Natural News, it's breathtaking
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Fausts Pen posted:Oooo ooo ooo! I finally got one! A buddy got this from his grandparents (who are racist as all hell) and figured I'd get a laugh out of it. So I present it to you guys to laugh at too. Someone seems to think that tax day is the day when we turn over 99.9% of our income over to a man in a black suit, who then walks half a block and throws the wads of cash at a bunch of dirty poors so they can go buy a Cadillac. Meanwhile in real life everyone pays in a modest portion of their earnings (maybe more than you might like, but still not that much) and in exchange gets a zillion useful services out of it. Poor people also get the privilege of not starving in the streets, despite some corporations' best efforts.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:I've never shown a diehard the Atwater clip but I do wonder what the reaction would be. Is it like watching a whole worldview come crashing down, or do the defense mechanisms somehow explain away Atwater? You can send them the whole interview. Let us know how it goes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btW831W0o34
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Phone posted:I have nothing but disdain for Reagan. For some odd reason, a paranoid, lovely person makes a paranoid, lovely president. Weird.
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Aug 8, 2013 20:10
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What's the best book on why Reagan was terrible?
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I just got that horrible picture accompanied by "Ambassador Stevens was burned and tortured and raped for seven hours while OBAMA AND HILLARY DID NOTHING" forward on facebook, and I remember this thread had a pretty good truth bomb about the whole thing. I already told the guy that the picture wasn't of Stevens (couldn't remember where it actually came from, though), Stevens died of asphyxiation, the locals were actually super overjoyed to find him alive, and that they personally carried/drove him to the nearest hospital. I swear there was more to it than that. The picture in question was this one:  
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Aug 8, 2013 22:53
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I posted that here. For the short version, that picture was taken in the late 80s in a period of Argentinian repression. It's not clear whether this is a training exercise or actual torture, but it's clearly not Ambassador Stevens. The picture of the actual Ambassador Stevens to accompany claims he was raped is usually this one.  To me, it looks like a man trying to carry Stevens to the hospital with such haste that he didn't even pocket his phone. To others, it's a big ol' gay rapefest. Nyarai fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Aug 8, 2013 |
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Aug 8, 2013 23:05
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Cool. I knew and mentioned that the picture was decades old, and I posted that same photo of Stevens.
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I'd really press on how despicable it is to knowingly use a photo of another person being tortured in order to create false evidence of your conspiracy theory. Sure, the people that pass it on don't know but the person who made it deliberately lied. Both of these people in the photos have families, how would you feel if someone posted a picture from an autopsy and claimed it was your grandmother and that she didn't actually die the way everyone says she did, she was vivisected. That's what the author of that email is doing, because his favorite choice for president didn't get picked.
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Guilty Spork posted:I'm reminded of Penn & Teller's idiotic metaphor of pies for taxes, where Teller kept taking slice after slice from Penn's pie, which totally missed the part about how if it was to scale with the wealthy, Penn would've had giant pie warehouses in multiple countries and Teller would get a handful of blueberries to try to feed three kids with. I also don't why people can't understand progressive taxation. It really isn't all that complicated.
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Mooseontheloose posted:I also don't why people can't understand progressive taxation. It really isn't all that complicated. I sometimes wonder whether or not there's a genuine lack of understanding versus the whole "taxing the makers is a dumb thing, don't make atlas shrug okay" can of worms.
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Derek Agony posted:Are people really forwarding/Facebook posting that email without even updating the year counts? Did you hear? It's been one year since Australia enacted gun control, and crime is up up up!
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Mooseontheloose posted:I also don't why people can't understand progressive taxation. It really isn't all that complicated. There's a guy who comments on a bunch of posts a friend of mine from high school posts. Apparently he makes a decent amount of money, and he completely rages about the progressive tax, saying it's not fair that he pays a higher percentage. He's also said (direct quotes) "some people need to have their votes suppressed" and "oligarchy ftw".
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Nyarai posted:
That's in fact what they're doing. Another meme that comes up with this is they were yelling Allahu Akbar! over Steven's death. They were in fact yelling that. But as someone here who could speak Arabic said back when in the mid-east thread, in the video what they're actually saying is something like "Is he breathing?" "I think so!" "Allah Akbar!" And then those evil bastards carried him to a hospital a few blocks away since ambulances couldn't get through. Amused to Death fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Aug 9, 2013 |
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Amused to Death posted:That's in fact what they're doing. Another meme that comes up with this is they were yelling Allahu Akbar! over Steven's death. They were in fact yelling that. But as someone here who could speak Arabic said back when in the mid-east thread, in the video what they're actually saying is something like "Is he breathing?" "I think so!" "Allah Akbar!" I saw a video of the aftermath of an explosion in Syria and the guy behind the camera would say that whenever they found someone in the rubble, dead or alive. Do they use it like "oh my god!" as well?
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