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dijon du jour posted:Wait, you're actually sincere about needing the money? Or is this another layer of irony? I can't even tell anymore. Oh sorry about that. That wasn't my intention. I wanted to make fun of lovely Kickstarter projects but I didn't intend to make fun of people that use crowdfunding to pay for medical expenses. OrganizedInsanity posted:Ah, I don't know if you need to change anything, it just struck me as kinda weird since all your prizes are jokes and you joke but you also post that you have a serious medical illness. I was just weirded since you apparently live in an amazing house too. Do you actually need the money? I'd shoot you like $20 I mean yes all my prizes are joke prizes but I do sincerely intend on fulfilling them. Also I'm not sure which house you're referring to unless its the photograph of the giant aquarium which is actually a different person (not me). The $3500 is for my medical expenses.
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Civilized Fishbot posted:They cancel out We'll find an inhabited planet and inflict world peace there too.
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MVega posted:No I actually need money which is why I posted some of my medical files. But if I just did [title: "help pay my bills"] I just think I'd just be white noise. I mean I'd like for my serious summary to come across as such but I don't know if maybe its coming across off as insincere. I don't want to make a gloomy campaign since that's not me. As I said people give me more than $3500 it won't be used on medical bills but a creative endeavor instead. I basically tried to make an identical campaign idea to this a few months ago because I was struggling with my bills and it did not go over well, I was open about how I am on disability and was just looking for help and I got a grand total of zero dollars. Yours is for a much better reason than a looming eviction though, so I do hope this actually works out for you, I can't imagine what having to pay for an MRI you need is like.
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MVega posted:Oh sorry about that. That wasn't my intention. I wanted to make fun of lovely Kickstarter projects but I didn't intend to make fun of people that use crowdfunding to pay for medical expenses. Huh, maybe its because you posted it on this thread. I got the impression the entire thing was a joke and you were the guy owning the amazing house and aquarium.
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We've done it, we've crossed over the insincerity event horizon. Nothing is real, anything is possible, all you have to do to be funny is say a thing that's not. Seriously you're throwing around a lot of like random stock photos of dogs and mansions and stuff in with scans of medical forms and "jokes" and I have no idea going from that page that you intend anything in there to not be total bullshit, and it really makes me disinclined to believe any explanation of it you make here. This isn't how you use irony or satire or whatever you're going for. Tubgirl Cosplay has a new favorite as of 21:45 on Aug 14, 2013 |
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Tubgirl Cosplay posted:We've done it, we've crossed over the insincerity event horizon. Nothing is real, anything is possible, all you have to do to be funny is say a thing that's not. In a way he's achieved the perfect kickstarter then!
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Jedit posted:I wonder what he'll do if he gets two pledges for World Peace? He'll give them a sign that says "world peace".
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Tubgirl Cosplay posted:Seriously you're throwing around a lot of like random stock photos of dogs and mansions and stuff in with scans of medical forms and "jokes" and I have no idea going from that page that you intend anything in there to not be total bullshit, and it really makes me disinclined to believe any explanation of it you make here. This isn't how you use irony or satire or whatever you're going for. I'm working on a better way to sort out irony and separate obviously fake funding attempts from legitimate ones, but I'm gonna need some funds to take it any further...
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Nipponophile posted:I'm working on a better way to sort out irony and separate obviously fake funding attempts from legitimate ones, but I'm gonna need some funds to take it any further... Do you offer reward tiers such as imaginary magical items or maybe a hi-larious cheesy intangible in place of a thing of value? I don't feel like I'm getting my money's worth unless I'm the butt of my very own dumb joke. VV Well that sort of thing wouldn't be unprecedented but you'd need an actual model more sophisticated than "Kickstart my sob story" Tubgirl Cosplay has a new favorite as of 22:49 on Aug 14, 2013 |
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I wonder if it's possible to start some sort of medical crowd-funding site? Or maybe a medical charity that goes on kickstarter every once and a while to raise funds to distribute to people who need funds ? The problem of course being that I don't think people would crowd-fund stuff like that because it isn't politically loaded (ie send my daughter to camp to fight the patriarchy) or hobby related. Edit: It sucks to even have to consider things like this because insurance sucks so hard.
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PrinceRandom posted:I wonder if it's possible to start some sort of medical crowd-funding site? Or maybe a medical charity that goes on kickstarter every once and a while to raise funds to distribute to people who need funds ? Donald Trump's got you covered . Just remember that they'll take 9% of your funds if it doesn't fund.
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That article is hilarious. I'm having a hard time deciphering if its serious or an onion style piece.
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Nnep posted:That article is hilarious. I'm having a hard time deciphering if its serious or an onion style piece. Its actually real, the site charges a 9% upfront fee for the project and if it gets funded he'll lower that fee down to 5%
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monster on a stick posted:"I may be too successful" is rarely a risk factor for Kickstarters. In this case it isn't at all. I think the only one it's ever been an actual risk for is Ogre, where the product is now slightly larger than a volkswagon
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monster on a stick posted:"I may be too successful" is rarely a risk factor for Kickstarters. I have a vague memory of several projects where the project creators found it impossible to fulfill the pledge rewards after they got way more backers than they're ever expected and the economies of scale spiraled out of their control.
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OrganizedInsanity posted:Donald Trump's got you covered . Just remember that they'll take 9% of your funds if it doesn't fund. 9%/5% is about the same as indiegogo (9%/4%) and kickstarter (5% for funded projects).
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I have a vague memory of several projects where the project creators found it impossible to fulfill the pledge rewards after they got way more backers than they're ever expected and the economies of scale spiraled out of their control. That's a completely controllable risk though since you can limit the amount of each reward. If you have a cap on how much you can produce by the deadline, just cap the number of people who can claim that reward, easy.
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wa27 posted:9%/5% is about the same as indiegogo (9%/4%) and kickstarter (5% for funded projects). Wait, Indie-gogo takes money from you when you don't fund?
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OrganizedInsanity posted:Wait, Indie-gogo takes money from you when you don't fund? Well, only with flexible funding, so 99% of indiegogo projects. http://www.indiegogo.com/how-pricing-works-on-indiegogo
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Fatkraken posted:That's a completely controllable risk though since you can limit the amount of each reward. If you have a cap on how much you can produce by the deadline, just cap the number of people who can claim that reward, easy. That'd require a level of planning and maths skills way beyond most people on KS.
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wa27 posted:Well, only with flexible funding, so 99% of indiegogo projects. Makes sense. You also have to pay another 3% in third-party fees like credit card processing, so it's actually more like 12%.
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RPG Maker is still as popular of a tool as it was ten years ago, I see. Pay him five bucks, and he'll let you 'answer a question in the game'. I think this means he'll let you decide on a gameplay feature. If it wasn't a flexible funding campaign I'd donate just to suggest not using the default face icons. It's a portable coffee filter that connects with a mason jar. I think I have one of those around here somewhere, except it's plastic, works with any bottle I want, and it cost me 99 cents or something close to that. It's not an ~authentic, artisan~ filter though, so I will have to live in shame with the knowledge my poor knockoff can't be used to make coffee as tasty as the 27 dollar real-deal. NEW KIND OF ASTRONAUT for make your growth taller!!! I'm not entirely sure, but I think he intends to continuously stretch his limbs for a full month with the goal of 'growing' taller. If his experiments are successful, he'll share the secret with the rest of the world. Give me 2000 dollars so I can cover my studio floor in gravel. Somehow this will magically make him a better artist, because it reprograms his subconsciousness or something. Personally I hope that when his year of living on gravel is over he comes to the conclusion that it didn't help him make any better art, and that what he really needed to become better was to have three hungry tigers lurking around his house.
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Code Hero is still puttering along, apparently? They are claiming a new beta release is soon, and that they will do weekly updates instead of hardly any updates. We'll see, I guess.
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WickedHate posted:Why do RPG Maker users even need money? The software is like $70 (#35 on sale). Money don't just grow on trees 
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Packstand posted:Well they just raised $3,200,000 in one day.. so at this rate $32,000,000 isn't far off. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge welp. Thats probably the most high profile funding failure I've seen since this whole crowdfunding fad started.
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Zybourne Clock posted:RPG Maker is still as popular of a tool as it was ten years ago, I see. Pay him five bucks, and he'll let you 'answer a question in the game'. I think this means he'll let you decide on a gameplay feature. If it wasn't a flexible funding campaign I'd donate just to suggest not using the default face icons. Apparently their official music is by someone named Steven Ramon. The update proclaiming this provides no links to this person's work, nor any information about them. Great job guys! WickedHate posted:Why do RPG Maker users even need money? Depends. They could want money so they can work full time on their "masterpiece." Or they could want money to hire someone else to work on the game
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Zybourne Clock posted:RPG Maker is still as popular of a tool as it was ten years ago, I see. Pay him five bucks, and he'll let you 'answer a question in the game'. I think this means he'll let you decide on a gameplay feature. If it wasn't a flexible funding campaign I'd donate just to suggest not using the default face icons. Bog standard RTP/character generator crap. Half the people who use RPG Maker don't even bother with anything more interesting than "shite JRPG that might be created by a random generator", all with the same three variations of half a plot and the same poo poo-tastic battle system. It's a legit development tool in the right hands, but ironically its intended purpose is probably the thing it does the worst out of the box.
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duck monster posted:http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge Holy hell, it's a $10 million failure. 
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QwertyAsher posted:I think the only one it's ever been an actual risk for is Ogre, where the product is now slightly larger than a volkswagon drat you Ogre! I just want my GURPS back 
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Holy hell, it's a $10 million failure. Holy poo poo, they pulled in more money than OUYA. Although these guys won't see a cent.
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Zybourne Clock posted:Give me 2000 dollars so I can cover my studio floor in gravel. Somehow this will magically make him a better artist, because it reprograms his subconsciousness or something. Personally I hope that when his year of living on gravel is over he comes to the conclusion that it didn't help him make any better art, and that what he really needed to become better was to have three hungry tigers lurking around his house. What the hell? He wants $2000 for 4 tons of gravel. A cursory glance at local dealers shows about $350 per 12 yards of gravel, and 12 yards is upwards of 27,000 pounds of gravel. I searched for his specific 'Mexican Beach Pebbles' and found a site selling them as 'building stones' for $580 per ton. This is more than 10x the cost of other gravels on the same page. He could get three times the amount of gravel for like 18% of the cost. He ain't buying Mexican Beach Pebbles. He's gonna buy $100 worth of typical pea gravel or cobble and pocket the difference. Well, he would, but it won't get funded.
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Zybourne Clock posted:Give me 2000 dollars so I can cover my studio floor in gravel. Somehow this will magically make him a better artist, because it reprograms his subconsciousness or something. Personally I hope that when his year of living on gravel is over he comes to the conclusion that it didn't help him make any better art, and that what he really needed to become better was to have three hungry tigers lurking around his house. I love it when aspiring artists try and ascribe their lack of inspiration/output/talent to external factors like this. Like when a wanna-be writer swears that once they get an old-timey typewriter and a cool desk they'll be inspired instead of just sitting down and loving writing. Or the aspiring artist who has zero handle on perspective and anatomy but swears that their problem is that they don't have a tablet. VVVVVV Sweet, so it's like an even more transparently scammy version of those Who's Who In Poetry books that every oblivious, well-meaning English teacher in the country has pushed on their students at one point or another. ...of SCIENCE! has a new favorite as of 09:31 on Aug 16, 2013 |
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Remember the Paula Deen-inspired cookbook from a few pages ago? Backers could send in their recipes and the project starter would somehow make a book from all the collected materials. This man skips the 'recipes' step altogether and lets you send in any personal story you please. At first he wanted to restrict himself to just collecting stories about people in the US, but then he decided to dream big and collect stories from the entire world. The funny thing is that he thinks he is the first person to dip his toe in the unexplored ocean of collaborative writing, when in reality at least one project like this pops up on KickStarter every week. "If you don't use your mind, you become an idiot" said the least self-aware person in the known universe, seconds before stopping the recording and sending the voice clip to his friend Matt. For a few seconds he pondered what it truly meant to send electronic mail, and asserted himself the electrons were merely following the laws of cause and effect. The universe made sense, and he sighed a sigh of relief as he reached for his phone to make dinner arrangements. Dr. Lewis wanted a pepperoni pizza, but St. John insisted on tuna. 'Pepperoni!' yelled one headmate. 'Tuna!' yelled the other. A minor kerfuffle erupted in Josh's mind. Sharing a mind with two other people of different faiths was not without its struggles, especially when one of them was a saint in a previous life.
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Zybourne Clock posted:RPG Maker is still as popular of a tool as it was ten years ago, I see. Pay him five bucks, and he'll let you 'answer a question in the game'. I think this means he'll let you decide on a gameplay feature. If it wasn't a flexible funding campaign I'd donate just to suggest not using the default face icons. The best part about this is his $1 donation feature. "We don't have any art talent at all, so you can PAY US to put your assets into our game!"
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I like how on one side of things you have pretty normal people like the 'breastfeeding in public shouldn't be seen as sexual and looked down on' crowd, and then you apparently have the people selling breast milk cookbooks where literally every photo has a big ol pair of titties in them just hanging out unrelated. I feel like there was a communication error somewhere.
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DoctorPresident posted:What better way to honor the disaster at Chernobyl than a coffee table book? When I went they gave a brief presentation after we got there and passed around a coffee table book. It was in Ukrainian though. It would probably be better to just translate that than fund a vacation for somebody who evidently neither a photographer nor a writer. And tours are really limited these days since the building are falling apart.
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