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Install Windows posted:It's actually pretty politically smart to get yourself a senate seat and stay there forever. Starting salary is $174,000 a year, you get a sweet Federal pension that no one's going to cut after you're in place for a term or two, you of course get all sorts of perks from lobbyists. And your re-election campaigns are probably going to be just easy coasts for the forseeable future - you're an incumbent after all! These perks are pretty insignificant when you consider that our Senate comprises the most brilliant investors on the planet, putting idiots like Warren Buffet to shame, so surely all of them could make millions without any political access 
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Sir Tonk posted:Scott Brown, Mr. Salt-Of-The-Earth himself, has never eaten a corndog? Can I interest you in a Herald article about Elizabeth Warren's heritage? Tomahawk chop!
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Aug 21, 2013 20:47
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Speaking of Ted Cruz, debate gossip is still the best gossip. As a former APDA debater, absolutely none of this surprises me.quote:Patricia Murphy's sort-of illuminating, sort-of bizarre story on Sen. Ted Cruz's Princeton years depicts the senator as just as conservative and polarizing as he is today. His freshman-year roommate, Craig Mazin, provides some nice color: Also yeah he got clowned by Goolsbee in 1991.
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Aug 21, 2013 22:02
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quote:Yale and Princeton have a decades-spanning, Crips/Bloods sort of debate team rivalry Something about this sentence just doesn't fit.
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Aug 21, 2013 23:09
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Naet posted:Something about this sentence just doesn't fit. It's also only half true. (If you ask Princeton, Yale is their rival. If you ask Yale, it's Harvard. If you ask anyone else from any other team, it's "burn them both to the ground and salt the earth so that no monster so pretentious may ever rise again.") Plus, it's perfectly in keeping with the "ironic" racism that permeates college debate. The Warszawa fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Aug 21, 2013 |
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Aug 21, 2013 23:13
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Thanks for putting the mental picture of Austan Goolsbee dunking on Ted Cruz into my head. The logical conclusion of this, of course, is to add a White House/Congressional pickup hoops game to the annual roster of dumbass sporting events our elected officials participate in. Everyone knows about the annual Congressional Baseball Game, right? Fun Fact: Ron Paul hit the first over-the-wall homer in 1979.
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Aug 21, 2013 23:17
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serewit posted:Thanks for putting the mental picture of Austan Goolsbee dunking on Ted Cruz into my head. PED of choice: colloidal gold
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Aug 21, 2013 23:27
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Nice Davis posted:PED of choice: colloidal gold Democrats making up for a long run of Republican victories by winning this year's game 22-0.
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Aug 22, 2013 00:55
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serewit posted:Fun Fact: Ron Paul hit the first over-the-wall homer in 1979. Which makes it the only notable accomplishment of his entire congressional career.
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Aug 22, 2013 00:57
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I guess leading up to the election we can look forward to years more of political reporters lying about the Clintons because "It's fun" to get a rise out of people correcting them. Glenn Thrush Lies, Gets Caught, Promises More
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Aug 22, 2013 01:00
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FuriousxGeorge posted:I guess leading up to the election we can look forward to years more of political reporters lying about the Clintons because "It's fun" to get a rise out of people correcting them. It's more notable that anyone gives a poo poo who anyone's favorite sports team is in politics, even in New York (gently caress the Yankees, by the bye).
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Aug 22, 2013 01:08
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FuriousxGeorge posted:I guess leading up to the election we can look forward to years more of political reporters lying about the Clintons because "It's fun" to get a rise out of people correcting them. Politico seems like a modern version of DrudgeReport (you know, with formatting), am I off-base on this at all?
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Aug 22, 2013 02:49
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Joementum posted:Do read all of the DMR's follow-along with Scotty Brown as he toured the Iowa State Fair. I like the caption under his picture: quote:Former U.S. Sen. Scott Brown, a Republican Massachusetts, talks to a Des Moines TV reporter He's like a little Republican Massachusetts, just walking around and thinking he's people!
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Aug 22, 2013 02:51
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Riptor posted:I like the caption under his picture: He's about all that's left in Republican Massachusetts, to be honest. What else is there, Tisei? Bielat?
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Aug 22, 2013 02:56
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Sir Tonk posted:Politico seems like a modern version of DrudgeReport (you know, with formatting), am I off-base on this at all? Nah, you've pretty much hit the nail on the head.
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Aug 22, 2013 03:19
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serewit posted:Nah, you've pretty much hit the nail on the head. Their paid service is actually pretty decent.
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Aug 22, 2013 03:20
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ReindeerF posted:I agree with your underlying point, but Cruz is intelligent in cognitive terms. His head is full of bad knowledge and he comes to all kinds of stupid conclusions, but I can assure you that he is not technically a dumb man. That's sort of what makes him dangerous. With some teabagger like Bachmann or Gohmert or whatever you know you're dealing with a mouth-breathing idiot, but with guys like Paul or Cruz you're in a bit more danger because they're smart enough to carry out complex behaviors and to handle technical tasks like running an organization. I don't disagree with you. Cruz may be highly intelligent, but he's also an unapologetic fanatic. He could have been hand-made to be the perfect 2016 candidate to win over Tea Partiers, but he's still wholly incapable of appealing to moderates.
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Aug 22, 2013 03:29
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:It's more notable that anyone gives a poo poo who anyone's favorite sports team is in politics, even in New York (gently caress the Yankees, by the bye). These trivial matters are important. Don't you remember when John Kerry lost the popular vote in Philly because he ordered the wrong cheese on his sandwich? quote:I don't disagree with you. Cruz may be highly intelligent, but he's also an unapologetic fanatic. He could have been hand-made to be the perfect 2016 candidate to win over Tea Partiers, but he's still wholly incapable of appealing to moderates. Every time I see him I think he would be perfect cast in a movie as a sleazy preacher that is actually the antichrist. I may be going over board based on outward appearances but he just oozes something creepy to me.
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Aug 22, 2013 04:32
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FuriousxGeorge posted:These trivial matters are important. Don't you remember when John Kerry lost the popular vote in Philly because he ordered the wrong cheese on his sandwich?
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Aug 22, 2013 07:20
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:It's more notable that anyone gives a poo poo who anyone's favorite sports team is in politics, even in New York (gently caress the Yankees, by the bye). It's arguably part of why Scott Brown was the senator for Massachusetts. Sports team rivalries are probably the most influential form of existing regional tribalism.
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Aug 22, 2013 14:59
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Bicyclops posted:It's arguably part of why Scott Brown was the senator for Massachusetts. Sports team rivalries are probably the most influential form of existing regional tribalism. Especially when it comes to Boston/New York. You say anything bad about the Red Sox while running for office in this state...get a player name wrong, insult the team, insinuate that they're not going to win the Series, anything--and you can kiss your rear end goodbye, regardless of party. Only person that didn't destroy is John Kerry, and it sure as hell didn't help him in 2004.
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Aug 22, 2013 15:09
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Alter Ego posted:Especially when it comes to Boston/New York. You say anything bad about the Red Sox while running for office in this state...get a player name wrong, insult the team, insinuate that they're not going to win the Series, anything--and you can kiss your rear end goodbye, regardless of party. Only person that didn't destroy is John Kerry, and it sure as hell didn't help him in 2004. Menino messed up player names all the time, but then again it was Menino, and he had trouble with names and words all the time.
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Aug 22, 2013 15:32
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Kem Rixen posted:Menino messed up player names all the time, but then again it was Menino, and he had trouble with names and words all the time. Well, as far as we can tell he's messing them up. Not for nothing is his nickname "mumbles."
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Aug 22, 2013 19:18
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dusty posted:Corn doggin' with Marcus Apparently God only has conference calls and half a dozen other GOP hopefuls will mysteriously be in on it, too.
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Aug 23, 2013 06:52
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FuriousxGeorge posted:Every time I see him I think he would be perfect cast in a movie as a sleazy preacher that is actually the antichrist. I may be going over board based on outward appearances but he just oozes something creepy to me. This is key. His insincerity is just off the charts. He strikes me as someone who knows his arguments are a joke. He will never win the presidency, we elect people who come across as human beings.
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Aug 23, 2013 11:05
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Name that GOP hopeful!quote:On gay marriage, I support it, at both the state level and the federal level. Gay marriage is something I’ve thought about at length as I’ve looked at my future. I concluded, a couple years ago, that I think it should be permissible and treated the same at both levels.”
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Name that GOP hopeful! So he's now right on something a total of Dick Morris +1 then?
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Aug 23, 2013 22:55
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Name that GOP hopeful! quote:Gay marriage is something I’ve thought about at length as I’ve looked at my future. I know this is just him admitting that this is a political decision but it's amusing to think that he could also be planning on marrying a man in the future.
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Aug 23, 2013 23:31
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Internet Webguy posted:I know this is just him admitting that this is a political decision but it's amusing to think that he could also be planning on marrying a man in the future. I think a lot of politicians would marry a man if they thought it would get them elected.
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Aug 23, 2013 23:34
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Raw Story posted:Speaking to National Instruments in Austin on Thursday, Cruz poked fun at his own birth certificate situation, and at the same time, he seemed to be stoking those who don’t believe the president is a U.S. citizen. I'll gladly throw down $5, if someone can make a dogwhistle smiley for 2014/16.
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crowfeathers posted:I think a lot of politicians would marry a man if they thought it would get them elected. Well it's worked for Hillary so far 
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ufarn posted:I'll gladly throw down $5, if someone can make a dogwhistle smiley for 2014/16. preferably something that has a whistle and a dog version of  .
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Aug 25, 2013 17:16
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Nenonen posted:Well it's worked for Hillary so far When the Clintons got marrried, I don't think Hillary expected to rise above First Lady. She wanted to be Eva Perón.
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Aug 25, 2013 17:51
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foot posted:When the Clintons got marrried, I don't think Hillary expected to rise above First Lady. She wanted to be Eva Perón. You are crazy if you think Hillary hasn't dreamed of being the First Woman President since she was 7 years old. She is not a lady who all of a sudden discovered her political ambitions once she perchance found herself sitting in the halls of power. SavageBastard fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Aug 26, 2013 |
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Aug 26, 2013 02:09
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SavageBastard posted:You are crazy if you think Hillary hasn't dreamed of being the First Woman President since she was 7 years old. She is not a lady who all of a sudden discovered her political ambitions once sitting she perchance found herself sitting in the halls of power. The PBS documentary on the Clintons drives this home something fierce. They're both very ambitious people, but she was portrayed as the "brains", while Bill was the public face.
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Aug 26, 2013 03:19
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I think the idea that Hillary just latched onto a guy who was going places is just a way to devalue her abilities and accomplishments.
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Armyman25 posted:I think the idea that Hillary just latched onto a guy who was going places is just a way to devalue her abilities and accomplishments. No, I'm not saying that at all. I don't think Clinton would have risen through the ranks without Hillary's aid. The Peron comparison was probably ill-considered on my part.
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Aug 26, 2013 05:13
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foot posted:No, I'm not saying that at all. I don't think Clinton would have risen through the ranks without Hillary's aid. The Peron comparison was probably ill-considered on my part. Yeah, it's definitely been a symbiotic political relationship, and I don't think it's unreasonable to say that they both probably hoped it would be. They are very interesting people to be sure; I keep meaning to read my (signed!) copy of My Life.
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The Clintons were the inspiration for Pinky and the Brain, obviously.
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