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Cocoa Ninja posted:Another person chiming in: watched Dredd thanks to everybody here. I thought the setting could've actually been a little darker and more futuristic — it looked a lot like The Raid, especially once they get stuck in Peach Tree. That said, it was a good time. A couple great fights / shootouts. The modern day vehicles and weapons kind of work at selling how lovely and poor this part of Mega-City One this is, but yeah they are really because of the movie's limited budget.
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marktheando posted:The modern day vehicles and weapons kind of work at selling how lovely and poor this part of Mega-City One this is, but yeah they are really because of the movie's limited budget. The movie had a production budget of $45 million.
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Aug 27, 2013 18:57
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etalian posted:The movie had a production budget of $45 million. Which is pretty limited for a sci-fi action movie set in a bustling future metropolis. It's less than half the budget of the Stallone Dredd movie.
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Aug 27, 2013 19:00
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marktheando posted:Which is pretty limited for a sci-fi action movie set in a bustling future metropolis. It's less than half the budget of the Stallone Dredd movie. Pretty amazing how fast the money goes. Compare that to District 9, which I thought built a more convincing hell-hole. Overall, I love world-building in movies in general and the oppressive bleakness in Dredd in particular, but maybe making it a perpetual blade-runner-esque night might've amped up the...dredd.
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Aug 27, 2013 19:22
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Cocoa Ninja posted:Pretty amazing how fast the money goes. Well most of it was driven by the small budget and the need to build things using some creative set dressing. The Stallone Dredd was actually closer to grandiose, colorful, cyberpunk feel of the original comics.
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etalian posted:The Stallone Dredd was actually closer to grandiose, colorful, cyberpunk feel of the original comics.
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Aug 27, 2013 20:00
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Dredd looks like a $200 million movie and there are $200 million movies that don't look this good.
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Aug 27, 2013 20:05
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Speaking of Dredd, I saw this short documentary on YouTube about "the world's tallest slum" - the Tower of David in Caracas, which looks remarkably like Ma-Ma's tower. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1p9jlQUW0k
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Aug 27, 2013 21:15
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I've watched Apocalypse Now at least 20 times, and only one of those times was Redux. It's not just that it's longer, I just don't even think the added material is at all necessary.
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Aug 27, 2013 21:25
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etalian posted:Well most of it was driven by the small budget and the need to build things using some creative set dressing. Certainly the budget is limiting, but to me as a director or producer I would ask why we need to show big, sweeping views of a city that clearly looks like a modern-day place with CG-ed "mega structures" dotting the landscape? Why not save that money and make the POV more claustrophobic and street-level? Have a few big shots of the justice hall or whatever it was called in order to give the movie some scope, but stick at the judges' level. A lot of the fun comes from focusing on the fully realized and aesthetically coherent details like the gun and the medical kit. Those objects felt lived-in and cool. Even the bikes had this retro, cyberpunk feel that worked, at least more-so than the some of the sets and city design. But just some thoughts. Overall I was smiling throughout. And did anyone else notice that whenever it cut to an all-CG shot, with Dredd / his partner against greenscreen, the framerate seemed to stutter a bit and the whole picture defocused? Maybe they were swapping for a different camera.
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Aug 27, 2013 21:44
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I think there needed to be some establishment of what the "world" was- an abandoned wasteland, a sprawling city, and the big slum apartments, one of which forms the center of the action.
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Aug 27, 2013 22:02
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:Speaking of Dredd, I saw this short documentary on YouTube about "the world's tallest slum" - the Tower of David in Caracas, which looks remarkably like Ma-Ma's tower. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZJ1w9-Umcw
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Maxwell Lord posted:I think there needed to be some establishment of what the "world" was- an abandoned wasteland, a sprawling city, and the big slum apartments, one of which forms the center of the action.
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I don't know how late to the party I am here, but I just spotted The Toxic Avenger on Netflix instant and I don't remember it being there last time I checked.
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SRM posted:Yeah, it gives it a sense of scale, that poo poo like this is going down everywhere every day, and it also distinguishes it from just being in modern day Brazil or something. I loved the line that the judges prosecute something like 6% of serious crimes. Sounds like Tijuana!
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mr. stefan posted:I don't know how late to the party I am here, but I just spotted The Toxic Avenger on Netflix instant and I don't remember it being there last time I checked. Every Troma movie is also on their official YouTube channel, last I looked.
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The Bay is a surprisingly good found footage horror film. It's a bit heavy handed on the environmental message but it never feels smashed in nor does it overshadow the horror of it. The acting is good and the gore effects are pretty good as well. I highly recommend it.
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Maxwell Lord posted:I think there needed to be some establishment of what the "world" was- an abandoned wasteland, a sprawling city, and the big slum apartments, one of which forms the center of the action. One thing I caught in my recent rewatch that I missed the first two times is that there are drones everywhere in those establishing shots of the city.
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Aug 27, 2013 23:44
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:I hate watching something you loved when you were younger, only to find you absolutely hate it now. Yeah, so many things I used to love now are painful to watch. I react the same to Sandler's movies. Rageaholic Monkey posted:Jackass is always funny. You must be elderly  GET OFF MY LAWN!My tastes on TV and movies have changed over the years. Anime and cartoons turned boring,to that add some problems with keeping my attention on something for more than 20 minutes.
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Aug 27, 2013 23:59
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etalian posted:Yeah plus the whole cast is so great with how they gleefully perform all the pranks and also mess with each other. Even if you hate the rest of the films I feel you can justify watching them just for the scenes where Bam Margera gets pranked and starts crying like a bitch. Seeing that smug douchebag taken down a peg is always pleasing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL2WP2HxDOU
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I think Dredd probably wasted more money on the 3D conversion and probably got hurt by advertising the film as "Dredd 3D" (although admittedly the 3D was cool for the slo-mo scenes)
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Aug 28, 2013 01:00
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etalian posted:Dredd is a really great film, the Red Letter media boys loved it too for things such as having over the top 80s gruesome practical effects and sort of intentionally Unfortunately I don't think it made back its relatively small 45million production cost in theatres, which doesn't bode well for future experiments like this, studios are just going to be that much more skittish. gently caress bullet train fights, give me a Wolverine film where Logan's claws actually do more to bodies than toss them around. 
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Haven't seen Zenith talked about here yet. For any one that likes thrillers, slow moving mystery type movies really needs to check it out. I can't really even say if I liked it or not, the little plot synapse netflix gives you was interesting but the film goes a good bit beyond that.
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Aug 28, 2013 04:54
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Just watched Beyond The Black Rainbow. Astounding little sci-fi horror movie with some amazing visual flourishes. One of the best-looking movies I think I've ever seen.
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I Before E posted:Just watched Beyond The Black Rainbow. Astounding little sci-fi horror movie with some amazing visual flourishes. One of the best-looking movies I think I've ever seen. Everyone who wants to see a totally surreal head trip of a movie, watch Beyond The Black Rainbow ASAP.
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Since everybody is praising it to the point where it got me to watch it I guess I should say that I didn't really enjoy Dredd at all. Maybe I'm past the point in my life where I can watch an action movie that's literally just an action movie and give a poo poo, but I don't think that's it - one of my main complaints with Dredd is that there wasn't a ton of action, and often when there was action it was just a short perfunctory shootout. There was pretty much nothing funny in the movie (at least the original tried to have a goofy sidekick, although we all know how well that turned out), there wasn't much of an interesting message aside from the classic violent Dredd nihilism (as if I don't get that from enough of my entertainment already), they managed to come up with an excuse to get Olivia Thirlby naked multiple times because whatever, there were a few plot holes which normally don't bother me but when the plot is literally "Judge Dredd shoots criminals until there aren't any left to shoot" I think it's a little inexcusable to dip into nonsense, and I think I'm forgetting a few other things I didn't like. On the plus side most of the performances were pretty good so there's that. Overall I'd say I think I like the terrible mistake that was the original more than this occasionally interesting but mostly boring movie when it comes to Judge Dredd, and when it comes to action movies more generally, I think Netflix has better options. Terminator 2, Valhalla Rising, Ip Man, Mission Impossibles 1 through 4, The Good, the Bad, and the Weird, 13 Assassins, and a ton of other great action movies are streaming right now. Of course it looks like I'm in a minority of one, so, yeah. In fact speaking of which it's time to recommend The Good, the Bad, and the Weird again. It's basically Indiana Jones plus The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.
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I dont know if its been mentioned but primer's star director writers next film - upstream color is streaming as well. Very well done.
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What plot holes would they be? I thought the script for Dredd was very well put together and don't remember any plot holes.
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TychoCelchuuu posted:they managed to come up with an excuse to get Olivia Thirlby naked multiple times
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I gave Dredd another shot last night, since I had mixed feelings about it the first time I saw it. It still has beautiful moments (mostly the slow-mo), but it's so joyless and stiff that it doesn't really do much for me on the whole. That's probably spot on for a movie about crushing fascism and overwhelming poverty, but I couldn't finish it.
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etalian posted:Yeah plus the whole cast is so great with how they gleefully perform all the pranks and also mess with each other. Although I've never been the biggest fan of the super grossout stuff they do. I felt ill after watching the one where the guy wears plastic wrap all over his body then runs on a treadmill and somebody drinks the sweat. My favorites are the super elaborate physical stunts and pranks. RightClickSaveAs fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Aug 28, 2013 |
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Aug 28, 2013 16:19
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RightClickSaveAs posted:Although I've never been the biggest fan of the super grossout stuff they do. I felt ill after watching the one where the guy wears plastic wrap all over his body then runs on a treadmill and somebody drinks the sweat. I don't know why, but that one made me gag way more than Steve-O doing the port-o-potty bungie jumping. Like, I had to look away from the screen before they even started drinking, and even the gagging sounds were making me gag imagining it. I can't even think about it now without nearly throwing up.
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marktheando posted:What plot holes would they be? I thought the script for Dredd was very well put together and don't remember any plot holes. Happy_Misanthrope posted:Huh? When was she actually naked? You see her uncovered back in one physic sequence as the camera pans around her, and maybe see a very, very brief blurry side shot of her boob in the same sequence, but "gratuitous nudity" is one critique of Dredd that I don't think holds up.
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TychoCelchuuu posted:When the one bad guy they've captured tries to shoot the woman with her gun and it blows his hand off and he's screaming and poo poo and then she kicks him, the next scene is her carefully sneaking out of the room because nobody heard that poo poo. This despite the room they were in having an open door and everything. I also thought it was silly that this hardened criminal apparently doesn't know that using a Judge's gun is a bad idea but I'm sure there's some fine explanation for that. I've forgotten the rest - they annoyed me while I watched the movie but it's not like they've stuck in my craw. They did mention that Judges rarely show up in Peach Tree, so he's unlikely to know what a Judge's gun will do. Also, it's a major point that Judges don't let their primary weapon leave their hands, so perhaps very few people know even if Judges are around.
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TychoCelchuuu posted:When the one bad guy they've captured tries to shoot the woman with her gun and it blows his hand off and he's screaming and poo poo and then she kicks him, the next scene is her carefully sneaking out of the room because nobody heard that poo poo. This despite the room they were in having an open door and everything. I also thought it was silly that this hardened criminal apparently doesn't know that using a Judge's gun is a bad idea but I'm sure there's some fine explanation for that. I've forgotten the rest - they annoyed me while I watched the movie but it's not like they've stuck in my craw. That seems like a hell of a stretch. They mention early on how judges only respond to like 6 percent of the calls and how thinly stretched out the department is. The dude would probably have never meet a judge face to face before and have no idea what kind of tricks they might have on their gear. Edit>> And already beaten.
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TychoCelchuuu posted:She's definitely naked in those scenes, plus the ones where the criminal imagines having sex with her and she's bent over - that one gets repeated a couple times. What makes nudity "gratuitous" isn't just how much of someone's body you see - it's the context in which you see it. The most recent example I can think of is Top of the Lake, which is a TV show but still a good demonstration of my point. There's one scene with like 12 women walking around entirely naked, but the scene isn't gratuitous at all. They're naked for good reasons and the nudity is matter of fact and so on. I thought what little nudity there was in Dredd was pretty gratuitous. Keep in mind this is a movie where we never even see Dredd's face. The only context we get for the film's nudity is through the lascivious imagination of Kay; they're always psychic projections of how he'd like to objectify Anderson (it's actually kind of male gaze personified). That's his method of attack, really, and I think Anderson's strength as a character is how she is able to actively reject that and even use it against him in the interrogation scene. I don't think it was gratuitous at all, since it was purposeful, and all part of Anderson's superobjective throughout the film to prove to others that she can be taken seriously.
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TychoCelchuuu posted:When the one bad guy they've captured tries to shoot the woman with her gun and it blows his hand off and he's screaming and poo poo and then she kicks him, the next scene is her carefully sneaking out of the room because nobody heard that poo poo. This despite the room they were in having an open door and everything. I also thought it was silly that this hardened criminal apparently doesn't know that using a Judge's gun is a bad idea but I'm sure there's some fine explanation for that. I've forgotten the rest - they annoyed me while I watched the movie but it's not like they've stuck in my craw. Eh, I wouldn't say that's a plot hole. The other gang members probably thought the noise from the small explosion that took off Kay's hand was the sound of him killing Anderson. They were expecting a loud bang from that room. And Kay doesn't scream, or make a sound after losing his hand. And as for Kay not knowing about the lawgiver's hidden surprise, it's made clear in the film that a judge losing their primary weapon is not something that happens often. Edit- beaten because I fired up Dredd to check if Kay screams.
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I thought Dredd was going to be a fun action movie but instead it was a boring action movie. The shootouts weren't interesting and the slow motion was really just gimmicky. It frustrates me because I enjoyed Urban's and Headey's performances and liked the fact that it wasn't an origin story, but it just felt like it lacked any substance.
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Oh netflix max you can just burn in hell. Today it gave me the option of letting him choose and play what ever he thinks I will like with no help from me. He gave me Star Trek voyager.
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Anyone use Netflix on a tv with a built in app? Having some weird problems with Frasier -- basically, 99% of older episodes are not available to watch. I'm on season 4 on a rewatch and skipped most of S1 and parts of S2. I want to go back and watch them, but only a couple episodes from S1 and S2 -- the ones I did watch -- show up when I select Frasier -> All Episodes. Everything Season 4 and on is fine.
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