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hrm yes programmreds are a special breed worthy of respect and adulation
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on one hand any profession has specific tools adapted to their daily tasks and they tend to cost more than consumer-grade items. on the other hand it's a jieff atwoord keyboard and I ain't gonna buy one.
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Aug 28, 2013 12:42
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wait when did jeff atwood make luxury consumer goods
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Aug 28, 2013 12:43
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that looks like a nice keyboard but you'll pry my ms 4000 from my cold rsi crippled hands
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Aug 28, 2013 12:55
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im pretty jealous that fatwood gets to make a living just messing around with programming
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Aug 28, 2013 12:56
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tef i think you're just jealous no-one's asked you to shill for premium computer accessories programming is terrible™ keyboards, where no matter which keys you press, it always types "go outside"
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Aug 28, 2013 13:00
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MononcQc posted:on one hand any profession has specific tools adapted to their daily tasks and they tend to cost more than consumer-grade items. The Hole Hawg is a drill made by the Milwaukee Tool Company. If you look in a typical hardware store you may find smaller Milwaukee drills but not the Hole Hawg, which is too powerful and too expensive for homeowners. The Hole Hawg does not have the pistol-like design of a cheap homeowner's drill. It is a cube of solid metal with a handle sticking out of one face and a chuck mounted in another. The cube contains a disconcertingly potent electric motor. You can hold the handle and operate the trigger with your index finger, but unless you are exceptionally strong you cannot control the weight of the Hole Hawg with one hand; it is a two-hander all the way. In order to fight off the counter-torque of the Hole Hawg you use a separate handle (provided), which you screw into one side of the iron cube or the other depending on whether you are using your left or right hand to operate the trigger. This handle is not a sleek, ergonomically designed item as it would be in a homeowner's drill. It is simply a foot-long chunk of regular galvanized pipe, threaded on one end, with a black rubber handle on the other. If you lose it, you just go to the local plumbing supply store and buy another chunk of pipe. During the Eighties I did some construction work. One day, another worker leaned a ladder against the outside of the building that we were putting up, climbed up to the second-story level, and used the Hole Hawg to drill a hole through the exterior wall. At some point, the drill bit caught in the wall. The Hole Hawg, following its one and only imperative, kept going. It spun the worker's body around like a rag doll, causing him to knock his own ladder down. Fortunately he kept his grip on the Hole Hawg, which remained lodged in the wall, and he simply dangled from it and shouted for help until someone came along and reinstated the ladder. I myself used a Hole Hawg to drill many holes through studs, which it did as a blender chops cabbage. I also used it to cut a few six-inch-diameter holes through an old lath-and-plaster ceiling. I chucked in a new hole saw, went up to the second story, reached down between the newly installed floor joists, and began to cut through the first-floor ceiling below. Where my homeowner's drill had labored and whined to spin the huge bit around, and had stalled at the slightest obstruction, the Hole Hawg rotated with the stupid consistency of a spinning planet. When the hole saw seized up, the Hole Hawg spun itself and me around, and crushed one of my hands between the steel pipe handle and a joist, producing a few lacerations, each surrounded by a wide corona of deeply bruised flesh. It also bent the hole saw itself, though not so badly that I couldn't use it. After a few such run-ins, when I got ready to use the Hole Hawg my heart actually began to pound with atavistic terror. But I never blamed the Hole Hawg; I blamed myself. The Hole Hawg is dangerous because it does exactly what you tell it to. It is not bound by the physical limitations that are inherent in a cheap drill, and neither is it limited by safety interlocks that might be built into a homeowner's product by a liability-conscious manufacturer. The danger lies not in the machine itself but in the user's failure to envision the full consequences of the instructions he gives to it. A smaller tool is dangerous too, but for a completely different reason: it tries to do what you tell it to, and fails in some way that is unpredictable and almost always undesirable. But the Hole Hawg is like the genie of the ancient fairy tales, who carries out his master's instructions literally and precisely and with unlimited power, often with disastrous, unforeseen consequences. Pre-Hole Hawg, I used to examine the drill selection in hardware stores with what I thought was a judicious eye, scorning the smaller low-end models and hefting the big expensive ones appreciatively, wishing I could afford one of them babies. Now I view them all with such contempt that I do not even consider them to be real drills--merely scaled-up toys designed to exploit the self-delusional tendencies of soft-handed homeowners who want to believe that they have purchased an actual tool. Their plastic casings, carefully designed and focus-group-tested to convey a feeling of solidity and power, seem disgustingly flimsy and cheap to me, and I am ashamed that I was ever bamboozled into buying such knicknacks. It is not hard to imagine what the world would look like to someone who had been raised by contractors and who had never used any drill other than a Hole Hawg. Such a person, presented with the best and most expensive hardware-store drill, would not even recognize it as such. He might instead misidentify it as a child's toy, or some kind of motorized screwdriver. If a salesperson or a deluded homeowner referred to it as a drill, he would laugh and tell them that they were mistaken--they simply had their terminology wrong. His interlocutor would go away irritated, and probably feeling rather defensive about his basement full of cheap, dangerous, flashy, colorful tools.
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Aug 28, 2013 13:01
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God darnit, Neal Stephenson, you use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore.
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Aug 28, 2013 13:02
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prefect posted:God darnit, Neal Stephenson, you use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore. thread is now about anathem and quicksilver
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Aug 28, 2013 13:08
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horse mans posted:thread is now about anathem and quicksilver noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Aug 28, 2013 13:16
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Otto Skorzeny posted:wait when did jeff atwood make luxury consumer goods software 
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Aug 28, 2013 13:25
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coffeetable posted:tef i think you're just jealous no-one's asked you to shill for premium computer accessories it would just be a bit of wood with nails through it, you could try typing but it would work better as a cudgel
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Aug 28, 2013 13:26
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prefect posted:The Hole Hawg is a drill made by the Milwaukee Tool Company. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qth1itPaT3Y
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Aug 28, 2013 13:29
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this was on QI once and it blew my mind because physical work is basically wizardry to me
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Aug 28, 2013 13:32
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Pardon the reddit link but: http://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/1l7baq/creating_a_user_from_the_web_problem/quote:I have a form that creates a user by entering the username and their password. The code I'm using in php is:
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Aug 28, 2013 14:01
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not clicking the link but that's obv. a troll cause I don't think even php "developers" are that stupid
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Aug 28, 2013 14:07
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tef posted:jeff atwood branches out in to merchandising http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2013/08/the-code-keyboard.html coding horror is literally now just for fatwood to post about his latest doomed venture twice a year
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Aug 28, 2013 14:19
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also everyone knows the first thing you do is make apache run as root so you stop getting all those dumb permission "errors" whenever you try and do something
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Aug 28, 2013 14:23
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Tiny Bug Child posted:also everyone knows the first thing you do is make apache run as root so you stop getting all those dumb permission "errors" whenever you try and do something this is real boring
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Aug 28, 2013 15:19
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I knew this guy who used shell_exec everywhere for inane poo poo and I tried telling him it wasn't a good practice and he just told me he checked around and didn't find anything saying it's bad. so idk it may not be a troll really
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Aug 28, 2013 15:23
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~*~ those who do not understand unix are doomed to reinvent it ~*~
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Suspicious Dish posted:~*~ those who do not understand unix are doomed to reinvent it ~*~ plan 9
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Aug 28, 2013 16:05
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linux is garbage. posix is trash
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Aug 28, 2013 16:36
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Shaggar posted:linux is garbage. posix is trash the future is php on windows then the two worst things in the industry will be in one place and i can forget them both forever
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Aug 28, 2013 16:49
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Suspicious Dish posted:~*~ those who do not understand unix are doomed to reinvent it ~*~
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Aug 28, 2013 17:53
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like function argument lists twelve items long, with eight expected to be NULL or 0
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Aug 28, 2013 18:11
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yes, including that (badly)
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Aug 28, 2013 18:21
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Gazpacho posted:hope u get doomed to work in a unix org that badly reinvents everything the windows API provides i work at http://redhat.com and yes we do!
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Aug 28, 2013 18:40
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Redhate makes the only working linux: centos. So that's cool. Jboss is really bad tho.
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Aug 28, 2013 18:42
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Shaggar posted:Redhate makes the only working linux: centos. So that's cool. Jboss is really bad tho. "redhate"? thats a new one. ive really only heard "dead rat", "the cat in the red hat" etc. and yeah we all make fun of the jboss team for being useless
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Aug 28, 2013 18:53
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but tbh the only thing a linux is good for is running tomcat and httpd. everything else is a bad idea.
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Aug 28, 2013 18:55
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Suspicious Dish posted:"redhate"? thats a new one. that's like 2000-era jeffk also stop with the shagadelics
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also you cant use the official tomcat packages from centos cause they'll be full of fail like gcj and bad configs. idk if that's your fault or not.
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Aug 28, 2013 18:56
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Aug 28, 2013 18:57
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lol im a time traveller from 2004, i've got to compile azureus with gcj to make it stop stuttering and start segfaulting
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Aug 28, 2013 19:04
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Shaggar posted:also you cant use the official tomcat packages from centos cause they'll be full of fail like gcj and bad configs. idk if that's your fault or not. this has not been true for years, you can use any jdk red hat comes with openjdk out of the box and that will run most code most of the time. (supposedly openjdk 7 is much better on compatibility than 6, but it is only in RHEL 6 so i haven't spent much time with it) red hat actually like pays people full time to work on openjdk, i think they are the only major contributor aside from oracle and ibm
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Aug 28, 2013 20:44
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I haven't tried using the centos tomcat packages in forever. also now I do mostly tomcat on windows cause its just a better os in every way
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Aug 28, 2013 20:47
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:this has not been true for years, you can use any jdk That's cause openjdk was originally based on Java 7, and then try backported it to work on Java 6 for some dumb reason.
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Aug 28, 2013 22:00
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tef posted:jeff atwood branches out in to merchandising http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2013/08/the-code-keyboard.html lol @ pitching a non-ergonomic keyboard as a product 'for programmers.' yes, the people who spend all day hammering on their keyboard want a keyboard custom-built to ruin their wrists. sounds good to me! also lol @ jeff atwood in general, snack overflow, etc
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So the Windows key is blank but there is clearing a stupid menu key? Even Lenovo are smart enough to not include that useless key, I'd rather have PrtSc.
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