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Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Monkey Fracas posted:

Racism Is Over yaaaayyy :neckbeard: :patriot:

Also "fine for house work"? Jesus loving christ.

Who the gently caress edits this? Is it still Tucker Carlson's digital rag? Sweet Jesus.

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Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Zwabu posted:

Who the gently caress edits this? Is it still Tucker Carlson's digital rag? Sweet Jesus.

Carlson's obviously looking to gin up page views and controversy. I can only hope that his shitrag is about to collapse around his ears and he's getting desperate.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Zeroisanumber posted:

First thing that came to mind was this:

Victor Lundberg - An Open Letter to My Teenage Son

60's dad taking a super-conservative position on all of these youth happenings of our crazy modern world.

I've always liked it because it's a good reminder that conservatives are always wrong.

This came from Grand Rapids, home of West Michigan's super-conservative Dutch Reformed crowd. Also, home of Amway!

CroatianAlzheimers
Jun 15, 2009

I can't remember why I'm mad at you...


AsInHowe posted:

This came from Grand Rapids, home of West Michigan's super-conservative Dutch Reformed crowd. Also, home of Amway!

Ugh, that explains it. gently caress everything west of Chelsea, sell it all to Indiana. (Except for the Air Zoo).

William Bear
Oct 26, 2012

"That's what they all say!"
Fox News headline: :siren: ObamaCare faces another delay, lawmaker calls implementation ‘train wreck’ :siren:

Actual article: The agreements [between government and healthcare providers] were supposed to be signed between Sept. 5 and 9, but instead will be delayed until mid-September.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/28/obamacare-faces-another-delay-lawmaker-calls-implementation-train-wreck/?test=latestnews

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

It occurred to me that you could do a psych or media department study on Fox News. Take stills of the news anchor's facial expressions and strip away the context, and show them to people blinded to the context and ask if they are talking about the President, Democrats, Obama or Democratic policies or politicians, or their GOP counterparts (or something else entirely). See how often regular Fox viewers can get the answers right versus those who haven't watched much Fox. Then do the same study for other networks.

I'd bet you could get something like 80 percent correct for the Fox anchors.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Zeroisanumber posted:

First thing that came to mind was this:

Victor Lundberg - An Open Letter to My Teenage Son

60's dad taking a super-conservative position on all of these youth happenings of our crazy modern world.

I've always liked it because it's a good reminder that conservatives are always wrong.

"Killing Slopes is the most important thing."

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Zeroisanumber posted:

First thing that came to mind was this:

Victor Lundberg - An Open Letter to My Teenage Son

60's dad taking a super-conservative position on all of these youth happenings of our crazy modern world.

I've always liked it because it's a good reminder that conservatives are always wrong.

Where's Spacedad? His comment got an interesting response:

quote:

The hippies are responsible for the destruction of what FDR built, the ascent of Reagan and today continue as the teaparty.

Hmm... if you isolated this to just the hippies and not the SDC kids, then it's correct. The baby boomers certainly led to Reagan and the dismantling of FDR's legacy. (although probably not in the same way the commenter meant)

Blastedhellscape
Jan 1, 2008
Something that I think gets forgotten about the baby boomers is that most of them actually weren't hippies, especially not in the politically committed sense. My parents were hippies and they have tons of stories about being harassed by people roughly their age over their clothes and hair. They also have tons of stories about hippies who didn't care a bit about any of that political stuff and were just there to party.

Of course the way the 60's are portrayed in the media you'd think everyone between the age of 16 and 30 went to Woodstock.

Grand Theft Autobot
Feb 28, 2008

I'm something of a fucking idiot myself
Guys, can we talk about rap music for a second? A shameful music




Intel&Sebastian posted:

Hahaha they're all so desperate to find analogues to all of GWB's gently caress ups.


I mean poo poo, I'm not going to claim to know exactly which way to go here but I'm feeling a lot better at this point in the process knowing there's no a war profiteer in the VP spot or a guy who thinks G-d is telling him to bomb countries in the drivers seat.

Uhhh, it was Gog and Magog, bro, get your facts straight. Liberals :rolleyes:

Grand Theft Autobot fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Aug 30, 2013

Roxors
Feb 18, 2011

Grand Theft Autobot posted:

Guys, can we talk about rap music for a second? A shameful music




Uhhh, it was Gog and Magog, bro, get your facts straight. Liberals :rolleyes:

Come on, they don't hate and look down on black people. They hate and look down on black people's CULTURE. That one word apparently lets you make all sorts of racist screeds, indistinguishable from racist drivel from the 60's, and for some reason very few high-profile people are willing to call this poo poo out.

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



Roxors posted:

Come on, they don't hate and look down on black people. They hate and look down on black people's CULTURE. That one word apparently lets you make all sorts of racist screeds, indistinguishable from racist drivel from the 60's, and for some reason very few high-profile people are willing to call this poo poo out.

They've really gotten concern trolling down to a science.

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

Grand Theft Autobot posted:

Guys, can we talk about rap music for a second? A shameful music



Also, FOX's other big chryon yesterday: "'I HAVE A DREAM' was not in the first draft of MLK's speech" - HE REALLY DIDN'T MEAN IT GUYS.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Pander posted:

They've really gotten concern trolling down to a science.

It's all reddit will talk about when it comes to black people.

Grand Theft Autobot
Feb 28, 2008

I'm something of a fucking idiot myself

beatlegs posted:

Also, FOX's other big chryon yesterday: "'I HAVE A DREAM' was not in the first draft of MLK's speech" - HE REALLY DIDN'T MEAN IT GUYS.

So we can go back to judging people based on the color of their skin? Bout loving time

cafel
Mar 29, 2010

This post is hurting the economy!

beatlegs posted:

Also, FOX's other big chryon yesterday: "'I HAVE A DREAM' was not in the first draft of MLK's speech" - HE REALLY DIDN'T MEAN IT GUYS.

MLK extemporized key lines of one of the greatest pieces of rhetoric in recorded history. What a sick burn, I guess he should have used a teleprompter and fully prepared remarks like all the truly great speakers. That is the Republican line on reading prepared remarks, right?

Protocol 5
Sep 23, 2004

"I can't wait until cancer inevitably chokes the life out of Curt Schilling."
It's easier to understand once you consider how often Republicans get into trouble for going off-script.

agarjogger
May 16, 2011

cafel posted:

MLK extemporized key lines of one of the greatest pieces of rhetoric in recorded history. What a sick burn, I guess he should have used a teleprompter and fully prepared remarks like all the truly great speakers. That is the Republican line on reading prepared remarks, right?

the Republican line on any given thing, as presented in the format of the 3 Laws of Robotics
1. Advance corporate power, be a vote for eventual corporate rule.
2. Hit the Democrats and bring them pain, where doing so would not conflict with the first law.
3. Be reactionary and make life worse for as many as possible, unless a company or election against the Democrats demands otherwise.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

OAquinas posted:

Honestly? Can't fault that. Bottled water is a massive ripoff in most places in the US due to the water quality out of the tap. If you're not rolling in cash and want to buy beverages you may as well get something--even empty calories--for your money.

Whats it like to live in a place where there is no concept of a convenience purchase?

"And why the hell should I have to pay for a room to stay in when I'm in a different country? I can stay in my room back home for free. loving RIPOFF!"

cafel posted:

Everyone knows that Jefferson popularized every single staple dish in America. It kept him so busy that he had to split inventing every single commonly used home and office tools with Ben Franklin.

Who in turn had to take time off from inventing all the good, old fashioned sex positions with french whores that America still uses to this day.

Which is why them gays can't get married, because Ben Franklin never had time to mess around with the man-whores, and so any man-loving is against the Founders intentions.:freep:

Zwabu posted:

It occurred to me that you could do a psych or media department study on Fox News. Take stills of the news anchor's facial expressions and strip away the context, and show them to people blinded to the context and ask if they are talking about the President, Democrats, Obama or Democratic policies or politicians, or their GOP counterparts (or something else entirely). See how often regular Fox viewers can get the answers right versus those who haven't watched much Fox. Then do the same study for other networks.

I'd bet you could get something like 80 percent correct for the Fox anchors.
...wait, I'm not sure what your point is. That their anchors are expressive, and you can tell if they're talking about something they hate because of their expressions? Isn't that sorta what we expect from someone on TV?

Modern Day Hercules
Apr 26, 2008

Fulchrum posted:

Whats it like to live in a place where there is no concept of a convenience purchase?

"And why the hell should I have to pay for a room to stay in when I'm in a different country? I can stay in my room back home for free. loving RIPOFF!"

You are missing the point of his post so hard that I have to believe it's deliberate. He's not saying that he doesn't conceptually understand picking up a bottle of water to grab a drink outside of the house. He's saying that when you're grocery shopping, it's not a crazy choice to buy soda over water, since a lot of people have decent water at home anyway. That is, it's not crazy if you happen to like to drink soda.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich
Yeah, and the kid wasn't thirsty at home, he was thirsty in the Walmart. A liquid would be purchased to sate thirst - that you think it should be soda instead of water becaue you can get water at home is pretty drat stupid.

Modern Day Hercules
Apr 26, 2008

Fulchrum posted:

Yeah, and the kid wasn't thirsty at home, he was thirsty in the Walmart. A liquid would be purchased to sate thirst - that you think it should be soda instead of water becaue you can get water at home is pretty drat stupid.

You're tilting at windmills you crazy motherfucker. I didn't say that, and the guy you originally posted only ~kind of~ said that. You're getting pissed about a story you heard 3rd hand in a thread where it's not even really relevant.

They were grocery shopping. If you don't have a lot of money, you might not be inclined to pay for poo poo you can get at home, even if you might feel like you need it at that moment. Maybe she was already planning on buying soda anyway, and didn't want to buy a water AND some soda. Have you ever seen a kid? They're always thirsty and always hungry, but some people can't afford to buy them a bottle of water and a lunchable every time they ask for one. You don't know enough about the circumstances of this situation to be getting as loving indignant about it as you are.

Modern Day Hercules fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Aug 30, 2013

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Well, in a perfect world, people would always choose water over soda, because soda is so blatantly unhealthy for us in the quantities we drink it. The drink purchase isn't about taste or novelty but about thirst, after all. Like he said, convenience purchase.

Harry Joe
Jan 15, 2006
My name be neither Harry, nor Joe, but Harry Joe shall do

Fulchrum posted:

Yeah, and the kid wasn't thirsty at home, he was thirsty in the Walmart. A liquid would be purchased to sate thirst - that you think it should be soda instead of water becaue you can get water at home is pretty drat stupid.

I'd say buying water for home consumption is pretty drat stupid unless you have really lovely water at home and really most people in the western world don't. I remember a study a couple years back that I couldn't find quickly that showed that something like 80% of tap waters were more pure then the most bottled waters but a lot of people have the perception that water in bottle = clean while tap water = dirty, even if it's rarely true.

Don't get me wrong, if you're thirsty and out and about, buying water is pretty great but if you drink it at home you would be much better served buying something like a brita water filter, it would save a ton of money and wasted plastic bottles.

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I don't think anybody really disagrees that bottled water is a ridiculously wasteful venture in 99% of cases, but I also doubt that anyone would disagree that there is a legitimate use and market for it either. Kind of a silly slapfight going on here.

Nyyen
Jun 26, 2005

MACHINE MEN
with MACHINE MINDS
and MACHINE HEARTS

Fulchrum posted:

Yeah, and the kid wasn't thirsty at home, he was thirsty in the Walmart. A liquid would be purchased to sate thirst - that you think it should be soda instead of water becaue you can get water at home is pretty drat stupid.

Calm down guy. For most people, buying bottled water is a luxury purchase simply because a similar quality of water is available from the tap for free. The mother in the story was likely in that group, and would quite reasonable be thinking that if she was going to pay for a drink, she should be getting something more than overpriced, fancy-pants tap-water.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Fulchrum posted:

Yeah, and the kid wasn't thirsty at home, he was thirsty in the Walmart. A liquid would be purchased to sate thirst - that you think it should be soda instead of water becaue you can get water at home is pretty drat stupid.

Please tell me you get way madder about real issues than this, this is loving nuts.

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Sodapop, Parenting, Walmart, and Water Bottles - Right Wing Media, somehow???

menino
Jul 27, 2006

Pon De Floor

Fulchrum posted:

Yeah, and the kid wasn't thirsty at home, he was thirsty in the Walmart. A liquid would be purchased to sate thirst - that you think it should be soda instead of water becaue you can get water at home is pretty drat stupid.

What the hell happened here, did you find a bottle of Arnold Palmer mix, mainline it, and decide it was time to LoGIc-BatTLe the liberals?

predicto
Jul 22, 2004

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

SedanChair posted:

Could be, but uh it wasn't a friend of a friend it was my friend, and he called me as he was leaving the Wal-Mart. He needed to process. Pretty sure it happened.

Fair enough. Objection withdrawn.

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

menino posted:

What the hell happened here, did you find a bottle of Arnold Palmer mix, mainline it, and decide it was time to LoGIc-BatTLe the liberals?

uh he is battling the conservatives defending the mother

because soda is seriously unhealthy

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Is there a Wal-Mart in existence without a water fountain? I haven't seen one. It's always right up there next to the shitter, the Mart Karts and the no-doubt-very-qualified optometrist.

Walter
Jul 3, 2003

We think they're great. In a grand, mystical, neopolitical sense, these guys have a real message in their music. They don't, however, have neat names like me and Bono.

Nonsense posted:

It's all reddit will talk about when it comes to black people.

Well, there are also the blatantly racist posts in the "I'm going to hell for this" subreddit. And let's not forget r/n*****s.

Really, when I think about it, I don't know why I even bother with reddit. It would be hard to find a website with more disgusting and soul-killing content.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
In addition to reddit is its little sister Imgur. It is pretty self-absorbed like most of the Internet. However, there are countless "As black person...." or "As a woman....." concern trolling posts. I was let down by them and that's about as close as I'll get to reddit.

There is a fair amount of jingoism there as well. Its like humor + political references that isn't funny or smart. They went on and on about N. Korea. Then the NSA. Then Egypt. Now Syria. The same people reading Imgur would be the ones most affected by a war. Dick waving and flagging waving is the same family I guess.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR
Man, I remember when Imgur wasn't full of hentai, porn, and Liberal Logic 101 memes.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Warchicken posted:

He probably believes that if you make one cent over your tax bracket your entire earnings are taxed at the new rate. It really is stunning how many people don't understand how a progressive tax system functions.

Everyone keeps saying everyone else doesn't understand how marginal tax brackets work. Can I get a quick explanation about how they do? I thought if your total income DID go into the next bracket you DID pay X% on your whole income?

predicto posted:

Sure, but you should see all the horrible photos of poor and messed up black people that white racists come up with to justify their racism. And then they add in stories about how they saw a fat Jemima just like that buying steaks and champagne with her EBT Card haw haw haw.

I'm just saying that a "friend told me" story showing that your ideological opponent fits a horrible stereotype sets off bells in my mind every time. Not saying that SedanChair is lying, but the story he was told might just be apocryphal.

My mother had this thing: Water was free so if she offered to buy a drink at the store you couldn't choose water. Because water was free and she was BUYING something nice for you. She's also literally crazy but the idea that a parent wouldn't buy bottled water over a soda isn't too surprising.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

HootTheOwl posted:

Everyone keeps saying everyone else doesn't understand how marginal tax brackets work. Can I get a quick explanation about how they do? I thought if your total income DID go into the next bracket you DID pay X% on your whole income?

You only pay the additional percentage on the income past the bracket cutoff.

Example:

Let's say there are two brackets, one at 10% for income below $100,000, one at 20% for income above that.

You make $50,000 a year and pay 10% income tax. You get a promotion and are now making $110,000 per year.

You pay 10% income tax on the first $100,000 you make and 20% income tax on the remaining $10,000 of income above the first bracket, for a total of ($10,000 + $2000) = $12000 yearly income tax due, for a net total income of 98k or so.

Compare with the way everyone thinks it works, i.e., making 110k and you owe %20 on all income. That way you'd have to pay 22k income tax rather than the 12k you would actually owe -- which would put your net income at 88k/year. You'd be better off just taking a 99k/year salary (which would give you a net income of about 90k).

Important thing here is this means there's no situation under the law as it stands where you can work more and earn less; the second scenario can't happen. If someone thinks it can they don't understand tax law.

Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Aug 30, 2013

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Important thing here is this means there's no situation under the law as it stands where you can work more and earn less; the second scenario can't happen. If someone thinks it can they don't understand tax law.

There are very specific circumstances involving poorly designed tax credits where it can happen. But that has little to do with the bracket structure.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

eviltastic posted:

There are very specific circumstances involving poorly designed tax credits where it can happen. But that has little to do with the bracket structure.

Yeah, fair point. I shouldn't have made such a broad statement -- I was still thinking about the context of the example. What I should have said was "There's no way that the bracket structure can penalize you for earning more, and anyone who thinks they could be penalized like that probably doesn't understand tax law."

That's not a condemnation -- most people don't understand tax law! But it does mean the state of public debate is pretty abysmal. Though we knew that just from all the people who think the deficit has been increasing.

Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Aug 30, 2013

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totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.
People just equate deficit with debt, because they're pretty similar ideas. Run a deficit, run up the debt. But of course we all know that the deficit really affects the rate of debt increase, but now we're talking fancy math and that's for those liberal elites with an education :rolleyes:

I disagree that the state of public debate is pretty abysmal - I think it basically, as far as the average person is concerned, doesn't exist at all.

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