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Smasher Dynamo posted:There are two problems with this plan. I never said it was a good plan. Considering how CF shaped up in the Dispersal Draft, there wasn't a real good spot to grab a CF. Baby Edmonds is less of a starting liability than Old Bucketfoot if only because he's less likely to shatter into a thousand pieces. You're right in that he probably shouldn't be starting, and you're right in that old Al, given the chance, should never play the field ever. But as is pretty plain to see, I don't really have much in the way of options there. Like I said, I'm mostly hoping Baby Edmonds holds together until the Super-Draft, so that I can solve my CF issue then and there.
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 Home city: Lake Louise, Alberta, Canada Stadium: Mary-Louise Park (I don't know anything about BBM's park factor stuff so can you please just stick a neutral preset stadium here like Angel Stadium?) Players Acquired Through Dispersal Draft: Rogers Hornsby 1928 Ken Griffey Jr. 2006 Bob Gibson 1959 Players Acquired Through Trade: Jeff Bagwell 1998 Garret Anderson 2000 Lindy McDaniel 1965 Feeder Teams Used For the Rest: 1999 Oakland As 1980 Montreal Expos 1970 Baltimore Orioles I saw other people do these so I did one too: http://pastebin.com/fr7KWBzw I had never heard of paste bin and had to google what CSV stood for before this... so I hope I did it right. pre:30-Man Roster: C Gary Carter 1980 Montreal Expos [cartega01] 1B Jeff Bagwell 1998 Houston Astros [bagweje01] 2B Rogers Hornsby 1928 Boston Braves [hornsro01] SS Bobby Grich 1970 Baltimore Orioles [grichbo01] 3B Miguel Tejada 1999 Oakland Athletics [tejadmi01] LF Boog Powell 1970 Baltimore Orioles [powelbo01] CF Ken Griffey Jr. 2006 Cincinnati Reds [griffke02] RF Frank Robinson 1970 Baltimore Orioles [robinfr02] DH Jason Giambi 1999 Oakland Athletics [giambja01] BENCH C Elrod Hendricks 1970 Baltimore Orioles [hendrel01] 3B Brooks Robinson 1970 Baltimore Orioles [robinbr01] OF Tim Raines 1980 Montreal Expos [raineti01] OF Ellis Valentine 1980 Montreal Expos [valenel01] IF Davey Johnson 1970 Baltimore Orioles [johnsda02] PITCHING SP1 Jim Palmer 1970 Baltimore Orioles [palmeji01] SP2 Dave McNally 1970 Baltimore Orioles [mcnalda01] SP3 Steve Rogers 1980 Montreal Expos [rogerst01] SP4 Mike Cuellar 1970 Baltimore Orioles [cuellmi01] SP5 Bob Gibson 1959 St Louis Cardinals [gibsobo01] BULLPEN CL Lindy McDaniel 1965 Chicago Cubs [mcdanli01] SU J. Isringhausen 1999 Oakland Athletics [isrinja01] SR Eddie Watt 1970 Baltimore Orioles [watted01] SR Ron Mahay 1999 Oakland Athletics [mahayro01] MR Pete Richert 1970 Baltimore Orioles [richepe01] LR Tim Hudson 1999 Oakland Athletics [hudsoti01] MINORS OF Tim Raines 1999 Oakland Athletics [raineti01] C Ramon Hernandez 1999 Oakland Athletics [hernara02] OF Garret Anderson 2000 Anaheim Angels [anderga01] SP Kevin Appier 1999 Oakland Athletics [appieke01] RP Greg McMichael 1999 Oakland Athletics [mcmicgr01] pre:vs. RHP 2B Rogers Hornsby R CF Ken Griffey Jr. L 1B Jeff Bagwell R DH Jason Giambi L RF Frank Robinson R LF Boog Powell L C Gary Carter R SS Miguel Tejada R 3B Brooks Robinson R vs. LHP 2B Rogers Hornsby R 1B Jeff Bagwell R RF Frank Robinson R CF Ken Griffey Jr. L C Gary Carter R DH Jason Giambi L LF Ellis Valentine R 3B Miguel Tejada R SS Bobby Grich R pre:vs. RHP 2B Rogers Hornsby R CF Ken Griffey Jr. L 1B Jeff Bagwell R RF Frank Robinson R LF Boog Powell L C Gary Carter R SS Miguel Tejada R 3B Brooks Robinson R P vs. LHP 2B Rogers Hornsby R 1B Jeff Bagwell R RF Frank Robinson R CF Ken Griffey Jr. L C Gary Carter R LF Ellis Valentine R 3B Miguel Tejada R SS Bobby Grich R P Hit and Run: +1 Sacrifice Bunt: -5 Squeeze Play: +3 Trying for extra bases: +1 Stealing Bases: -3 Aggressively Tagging Up: 0 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): 0 Giving Intentional Walks: 0 Pitching Around Good Hitters: +2 Bringing the Infield In: +1 Guarding the Lines: +1 Making Cutoff Throws: +1 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: +2 Bringing in Pinch Runners: +2 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: +2 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: 0 Letting pitchers pitch throw through trouble: 0 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: +1 e: spelling DannoMack fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Aug 30, 2013 |
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Smasher Dynamo posted:Just know that, if you get a chance, you need a right-hander capable of playing center field. Like 1970 Merv Rettenmund. You need 1970 Merv Rettenmund is what he's trying to tell you.
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 Full Roster for your Triple Crown Champions, with years for reference: code:code:code:code:Home Stadium: the Ring of Iron (Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium, 330/385/402/385/330 [final dimensions]) Strategy: Hit and Run: -3 Sacrifice Bunt: -5 Squeeze Play: -3 Trying for extra bases: -2 Stealing Bases: -3 Aggressively Tagging Up: -3 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -1 Giving Intentional Walks: -4 Pitching Around Good Hitters: +1 Bringing the Infield In: -2 Guarding the Lines: +1 Making Cutoff Throws: +1 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -2 Bringing in Pinch Runners: +1 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: +2 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: +1 Letting pitchers pitch throw through trouble: -1 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: +2
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Smasher Dynamo posted:For comparison sake, Adam Dunn's split is 120 points, Launch Ballman's is about 220, and neither of those guys is typically allowed to face left-handed hitters because they just can't deal with a lefty pitcher's breaking ball. Lemme see. Against lefties...who should I have manning 1st? My choices are Launch Ballman, A-Gon, Mo Vaughn, and pulling someone from my feeders (a startling majority of whom are lefties themselves). It's basically Jeff Conine at that juncture. Oddly enough, Mo Vaughn has the smallest split of the aforementioned hitters already on my roster.
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Plunder Corporation's Audited Financial Statements, Super League Season XI  This is still the greatest logo ever Gingemidget, I am in love. Lineups vs RHP RF: Cobb DH: Pujols CF: Charleston C: Gibson 1B: Heilmann LF: Bell SS: Appling 3B: Pete Rose 2B: Sandberg vs LHP RF: Heilmann 1B: Pujols CF: Charleston 3B: Gibson LF: Bell DH: Cobb SS: Appling C: Tettleton 2B: Sandberg Bench: Tettleton, Riggs, NOMAH, Pesky, Ott Pitching SP 1: Paige SP 2: Maddux SP 3: Cy Somewhat Old SP 4: Dutch Leonard SP 5: Cy Very Old CL: The Highest Rated Goose Gossage SU: Urbina SR 1: Righetti SR 2: The Lowest Rated Goose Gossage MR: Don McMahon LR: Steve Carlton Minors: Phil Coke, Judy Johnson, Tommy Hanson, Bassler, Sam Streeter Stadium: The Headquaters of the League of Evil Stadium: At or close to sea level inland (Probably in Delaware) Dimensions: 350/400/420/400/350 Field Type: Artificial Turf Infield Quality: Average Infield Grass: Very Short Visibility: Average Foul Grounds: Large Season XI Strategy Statement Hit and Run: -1 Sacrifice Bunt: 0 Squeeze Play: 0 Trying for extra bases: 0 Stealing Bases: 0 Aggressively Tagging Up: 0 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -5 Giving Intentional Walks: -5 Pitching Around Good Hitters: +0 Bringing the Infield In: 0 Guarding the Lines: 0 Making Cutoff Throws: 0 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: 0 Bringing in Pinch Runners: 0 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: +1 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -5 Letting pitchers pitch throw through trouble: +3 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: +1 CSV Roster code:Cthulhu Dreams fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Aug 30, 2013 |
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You all made fun of me when I traded for teenage Ken Holtzman, but now you see! YOU ALL SEE! Good luck this season, guys. Can't wait to get back at it in SLXII. Smasher: Want me to handle Pick 'Em again this season?
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Yes. Yes I do. And you were still crazy for believing in Ken Holtzman.
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 Finalized Roster. Cluck cluck. Lineups: C: King Kelly '86 Colts 1B: Keith Hernandez '84 (Draft) 2B: Larry Doyle '13 Giants SS: Jose Reyes '06 Mets 3B: David Wright '06 Mets LF: Cliff Floyd '06 Mets CF: Willie Mays '65 (Draft) RF: Carlos Beltran '06 Mets Bench: C: Paul Lo Duca '06 Mets 1B: Carlos Delgado '06 Mets OF: Endy Chavez '06 Mets 2B: Jose Valentin '06 Mets 1B: Cap Anson '86 Chicago SS: Nomar Garciaparra '03 (Draft) Pitching Rotation: SP: Pedro Martinez '06 Mets SP: Christy Mathewson '13 Giants SP: John Clarkson '86 Colts SP: Bert Blyleven '82 (Draft) SP: Rube Marquard '13 Giants CL: Billy Wagner '06 Mets RP: Andy Messersmith '76 Braves RP: Pedro Feliciano '06 Mets RP: Mike Marshall '76 Braves RP: Chad Bradford '06 Mets RP: Art Fromme '13 Giants Minors: SS: Jocko Flynn '86 Colts SS: Al Demaree '13 Giants SS: Jim McCormick '86 Colts SS: Phil Niekro '76 Braves SS: Darren Oliver '06 Mets Pro strats Hit and Run: 3 Sacrifice Bunt: -5 Squeeze Play: 0 Trying for extra bases: 2 Stealing Bases: 0 Aggressively Tagging Up: 0 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): 0 Giving Intentional Walks: -5 Pitching Around Good Hitters: 0 Bringing the Infield In: 0 Guarding the Lines: 0 Making Cutoff Throws: 0 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: +1 Bringing in Pinch Runners: +2 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: 0 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: 0 Letting pitchers pitch through trouble: +5 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: +5
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Smasher Dynamo posted:Yes. Yes I do.
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By the way, theacox, you and the Colliders are on the clock. Draft Spreadsheet.
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Pash posted:I love ads like this. I still wish I could find the Twins radio ad about how Doug Mientkiewicz's name is so hard to spell that school house rocks wrote a song about it. That ad was awesome. I couldn't find it anywhere on the internet, but I still remember how to spell his name perfectly because of that ad.
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The Life-Affirming, World-Ending, Zero-Carb Super-League XI Preview: Norris-Smythe Division Last Season The Ryleh Cultists were set to dominate the division en route to a championship until CthulhuDreams Super-Lotteried them to death. It was really, really, really funny to watch. In the aftermath, the Rakers and W's were left to battle it out, with their race for divisional supremacy going down to the wire, when the Rakers were able to win their first Norris-Smythe Division crown. But the W's won a wildcard spot, so they didn't go home empty-handed. The Marmosets and Dragons were also in the division, but neither survived the horrors of the Gauntlet. Why You Should Give a poo poo? 1. The Northern England Derby! The Rakers and Eazy W's continue to fight for regional supremacy! 2. No Man Who Speaks German Could Possibly Be Evil! Let me just say that given that CVE is from a country with zero baseball tradition, and English is not his first language, he's been doing great. But I think that we can both agree that the time has come to take the next step and make the playoffs. 3. U!S!A! U!S!A! The Mad Knights are the only team from an American owner in this division. Can they become the first American team since Super-League VI to win this division? Catcher 1. '27 Mickey Cochrane (WAL) 2. '80 Gary Carter (LAK) 3. '82 Ted Simmons (SLA) 4. '03 Jorge Posada (NUR) 5. '78 Brian Downing (HAU) Cochrane is the best hitter of the bunch, and might be the best fielder too. Carter is one of those guys who was a great hitter...for a catcher. That last part is important, because if you go into the season expecting Gary Carter to hit .280 with 30 home runs, you're in for a nasty shock. Old Ted Simmons is okay. I feel like, with the short right-field fence, the left-handed Darren Daulton should probably be getting more at-bats than he has been. I'm still skeptical of Posada's defense. And of Posada's hitting. I know that he's a True Yankee, but I don't know that he's going to be much more than average in the Super-League. Brian Downing is a Super-League hero, but has a tendency to be a bit erratic, which is odd, as he was a relatively steady player for the back-half of his career. First Baseman 1. '27 Jimmie Foxx (WAL) 2. '98 Jeff Bagwell (LAK) 3. '03 Jason Giambi (NUR) 4. '99 John Olerud (SLA) 5. '99 Fred McGriff (HAU) I don't think anyone really doubts that Foxx deserves the top spot here. I chose Bagwell over Giambi because I feel a lot more confident about Bagwell's ability to hit right-handers than I do about Giambi's ability to hit left-handers. For that matter, a large part of Giambi's game is drawing walks, and those are hard to come by in the Super-League. The only reason that Olerud has had such good numbers is that he plays in a stadium where the right field fence is roughly ten feet away from home plate. Then again, he'll be playing their again this year. Old Fred McGriff has the dual burden of being both old and Fred McGriff, and I know that a lot of people will say that McGriff was underrated but...he wasn't that underrated. Second Baseman 1. '07 Eddie Collins (HAU) 2. '28 Rogers Hornsby (LAK) 3. '23 Eddie Collins (NUR) 4. '86 Lou Whitaker (SLA) 5. '27 Eddie Collins/'85 Bobby Grich (WAL) Okay, this one will take some explaining. Young Collins is better than old Hornsby, but Hornsby has enough power-hitting so that I think that he's better than old Eddie Collins, especially since old middle infielders tend not to do well. Collins has a deadball glove problem, and Hornsby is just a bad fielder in general, though. Lou Whitaker is another left-handed hitter who gets to play in the W's misshapen stadium. He's the best fielder of this crew, though, and if you wanted to argue that, in context, he's the best of this bunch, I could buy that. Old Eddie Collins and Old Bobby Grich are two guys just barely hanging on, and there's a good chance that one or both ends up having a career-ending injury by the end of the season. Third Baseman 1. '85 Wade Boggs (WAL) 2. '04 Scott Rolen (SLA) 3. '69 Ron Santo (NUR) 4. '10 Adrian Beltre (HAU) 5. '70 Brooks Robinson/'99 Miguel Tejada (LAK) Boggs can just loving hit. And I know that he's not much of a fielder, and never had much of a powerstroke outside of the '87 season when they used the rabbit ball, but that level of hitting and patience is incredibly helpful to a team. Rolen is important to the W's for his defense, and any hitting the W's get is just a bonus. And it's not a bad bonus, either. '69 Ron Santo is getting a bit older, and never has eye-popping stats in the Super-League, but will probably be solid. Adrian Beltre can field and hit home runs. He can't do much else, though. Brooks Robinson isn't much of a hitter, and his defense, while great, will only take a team so far, and I'm not inordinately found of Tejada at third base. Shortstop 1. '03 Derek Jeter (NUR) 2. '91 Cal Ripken (SLA) 3. '96 Barry Larkin (HAU) 4. '97 Nomar Garciaparra (WAL) 5. '99 Miguel Tejada/'70 Bobby Grich (LAK) A fine group. I'll take Jeter's bat over the rest, though, in that he's one of the few shortstops that can consistently rake in the Super-League. His glove is a problem, but not that much of a problem in '03. Ripken is a good fielder, and has good power numbers for a shortstop, but his offensive skills may disappoint you. Barry Larkin is a jack of all trades, master of none. There's a lot he can do well, but he's not going to, in the Super-League at least, hit .320, he's not going to hit 30 home runs, or steal 100 bases, but he'll get the job done. Nomar's glove was always a question mark, and unlike Jeter, he didn't have the Yankee Mystique to stick at the position long-term. I still don't like Tejada, because he doesn't draw enough walks, and probably won't take enough vitamin B12 to be elite in the Super-League. Left Fielder 1. '06 Albert Pujols (HAU) 2. '29 Al Simmons (SLA) 3. '27 Al Simmons (WAL) 4. '95 Gary Sheffield (NUR) 5. '70 Boog Powell/'80 Ellis Valentine (LAK) I don't think Pujols in left is a good idea, but it's not like Simmons or Sheffield were considered great defenders either, and Pujols is the best hitter of the bunch. At least, that's the justification I choose to use for these rankings. Simmons are Simmons, so I went with the slightly more mature one. Sheffield is a brutal defender, but, realistically, he's pretty close to the Simmons in terms of productivity thanks to all of those walks he draws. The top four are actually pretty close together, though, so the order I've arranged them in is more like a matter of taste. Late-career Boog Powell in left is a catastrophe of almost unimaginable proportions. And while Dannomack was right to platoon Powell, Ellis Valentine isn't really good enough for that role, although the small sample size he'll end up with probably won't reflect that truth. Center Fielder 1. '62 Willie Mays (WAL) 2. '84 Kirby Puckett (NUR) 3. '61 Duke Snider (SLA) 4. '04 Carlos Beltran (HAU) 5. '06 Ken Griffey, Jr. (LAK) Willie Mays is Willie loving Mays, and there are only two or three guys I'd ever rank ahead of him, and none of them play in this division, so it was an easy call. Kirby Puckett has contact skills, but doesn't draw a ton of walks, and, well, if you've ever seen any pictures of Puckett, you probably have an idea about how good he was in center. Admittedly, he was better than you'd think, but still not very good. Snider is old, but is a left-handed power hitter in W's Coliseum, where left-handed hitters destroy opposing pitchers which great regularity. Beltran is good, but never seems to quite play up to his potential in the Super-League. Also, I hate him. The two are actually unconnected, though. We don't have any Reds fans in the Super-League. In fact, we have never had any Reds fans in the Super-League. Come to think of it, I've never met a Reds fan...or met anyone from Cincinnati. How do we know that Cincinnati even exists? I daresay that Cincinnati is naught more than a cruel hoax that we perpetrate to scare small children, warning them to be good lest they be sent to the Queen City, from which no good man can ever escape! Anyway, Ken Griffey, Jr. was great as a Mariner (in his first tenure, at least), but as a Red? He kind of sucked. He was constantly injured, and was almost never able to handle center regularly. Dannomack seems to want to prove that, given a bit of better luck, Griffey could have actually been good in his later career. I guess we'll see if he's right. Right Fielder 1. '26 Babe Ruth (SLA) 2. '89 Tony Gwynn (HAU) 3. '58 Al Kaline/'03 Sam Crawford (WAL) 4. '70 Frank Robinson (LAK) 5. '75 Reggie Smith (NUR) Babe Ruth. Full Stop. Gwynn is a frustrating player. He's really good at hitting singles, but never had power or plate discipline. I guess he was a good enough fielder for the first part of his year, before he let himself go. Still, a guy with that kind of contact skills has his uses. The Kaline/Crawford platoon is intriguing, and I wonder how it will work in practice. I like it just a bit better than Frank Robinson, who was getting a bit long in the tooth in '70, and hasn't had the best Super-League history. Reggie Smith sounds like a generic player that a video game with the MLBPA license would create. He's fine though. Just not as good as Blitz Lightning. Designated Hitter 1. '99 Jason Giambi (LAK) 2. '02 Ed Delahanty (SLA) 3. '27 Ty Cobb (WAL) 4. '59 Stan Musial/'03 Bernie Williams (NUR) 5. '10 David Ortiz/'99 Jose Canseco (HAU) I like Giambi's home runs more than I like Delahanty's hitting skills. I do like both, though, so it's not a knock on Big Ed, who will probably spend a fair amount of time subbing for Ripken and Rolen when fatigue demands it. Old Ty Cobb will probably fine for the first phases of the season, but it's an open question how long he'll last, and almost certainly will fall apart before the season ends. Which is probably where Don Mattingly figures into gingemidget's plans. Still, it's not the worst gambit. The Gravediggers' platoon works similarly, even if I don't really like Bernie Williams as a pure hitter, because I'm just not sure that his bat, without his glove, has enough value to make him a good starter. Also, Musial didn't retire until '63, so I'm more optimistic than most that he can last a full season. I'm not a huge fan of the Mad Knights' platoon. I don't really have a great reason for that, it's more instinct. Ortiz has usually not been great in the Super-League, and old, broken-down Canseco will hit home runs, but with a lovely average and no walks. Bench 1. '07 Adam Dunn/'03 Mark Bellhorn/'09 Asdrubal Cabrera/'93 Darren Daulton/'85 Howard Johnson (SLA) 2. '82 Jim Sundberg/'87 Don Mattingly/'27 Jimmie Dykes/Platoon Partners (WAL) 3. '75 Ted Simmons/'03 Alfonso Soriano/'03 Robin Ventura/'08 Carlos Beltran/Platoon Partner (NUR) 4. '06 Placido Polanco/'10 Dustin Pedroia/Platoon Partner/'96 Eric Davis/'10 Victor Martinez (HAU) 5. '70 Elrod Hendricks/'70 Davey Johnson/'80 Tim Raines/Platoon Partners (LAK) The W's bench is loving life-changing. Everyone except for Cabrera is a Three True Outcome hero. Oh, they will strike out a ton, just massive amounts of strikeouts, but they'll also draw walks and hit homers. And isn't that baseball at its finest? The Rakers' bench is more dependable than spectacular, but dependability is the most important aspect of a good bench, so that's not a huge problem. The Gravediggers' bench has some interesting pieces, but Soriano is useless as a defender, Ventura is pretty old, and I've already made my feelings on Beltran clear. The Mad Knights' bench is not great. Polanco is a credible utility infielder, and Pedroia has his uses, but Davis was washed up by '96 (sad, but true), and I don't really trust '10 V-Mart even as a backup catcher. The Longshots' bench has gone terribly wrong. Young Raines might be good, but Davey Johnson had one great season in the bigs and a bunch of mediocre ones, and the law of averages says that mediocrity is all you're going to get from him. I would have taken young Ramon Hernandez or old Mike MacFarlane over Elrod Hendricks. SP1 1. '02 Cy Young (SLA) 2. '27 Lefty Grove (WAL) 3. '07 Rube Waddell (HAU) 4. '70 Jim Palmer (LAK) 5. '23 Red Faber (NUR) I think Young tends to get better results than Grove in the Super-League. Grove might be a better pitcher from a historical standpoint, but Young is going to end up with better numbers. Waddell is a deadball pitcher who can actually strike people out...and walk them. The former usually makes up for the latter, though, and he's a fine ace for a staff. It's been a while since anyone used Jim Palmer in the Super-League, and even longer since any used a Jim Palmer in his prime. In theory, he should be just fine. Red Faber is an above-average deadballer, but isn't really ace material. SP2 1. '65 Juan Marichal (WAL) 2. '61 Sandy Koufax (SLA) 3. '07 Chief Bender (HAU) 4. '70 Dave McNally (LAK) 5. '76 Rick Reuschel (NUR) Is Marichal better than Koufax? Well, Marichal did have the better career, and also didn't get quite as much of an advantage from his home park in real life (although both Candlestick and Dodgers Stadium were pitcher's parks, to be fair). Still, this is Koufax from just before he became the Sandy Koufax will all remember. You could argue that part of that is because it was this was the last year where Koufax had to pitch in L.A. Coliseum but, then again, this Koufax pitches in L.A. Coliseum too. Bender is a good deadballer, and should be fine. Dave McNally had a great few years before his arm went, even if those great years are really the result of the late '60s being a pitcher-dominated era. Rick Reuschel is an innings-eater without compare in the Super-League. SP3 1. '13 Pete Alexander (SLA) 2. '07 Eddie Plank (HAU) 3. '03 Mike Mussina (NUR) 4. '97 Kevin Brown (WAL) 5. '80 Captain America (LAK) Pete Alexander should really get the top two spots on this list. He's that good. Plank should be fine, even if he's not as transcendent as Alexander. It's been a while since Mussina had a good run in the Super-League, but my recollection is that he's usually been pretty decent when he's gotten a good run, although there are no guarantees. Brown is up-and-down in the Super-League and doesn't exactly have a great infield defense behind him, so that could be a problem. Steve Rogers was just a scrawny youth before he was injected with the Super-Soldier Serum that transformed him into the Nazi-Smashing Captain America! Not sure he has the stuff to deal with Super-League hitters, though. SP4 '84 Frank Viola (NUR) '70 Mike Cuellar (LAK) '76 Tommy John (SLA) '78 Gaylord Perry (HAU) '82 Jon Matlack (WAL) Soft-tossing lefties! Also, Gaylord Perry. Viola is probably the best of this lot, and he a legitimately fantastic pitcher for a few years in the '80s, before he had his spirit destroyed by the Mets Organization. Mike Cuellar has a screwball, and a screwball is never not great. Never. Tommy John is all about control and finesse. That has been a problem for pitchers in the past, and so I can't say that I'm overly optimistic about John here. Gaylord Perry is old, and relies on a spitball, in league where a spitball isn't quite the enigma it was in the late '70s. Jon Matlack has had one really good season, and one really bad season. I guess this counts as the rubber match for whether he sucks or not. SP5 1. '93 Jack McDowell (SLA) 2. '59 Bob Gibson (LAK) 3. '85 Don Sutton (WAL) 4. '75 Bob Gibson (NUR) 5. '02 Red Donahue (HAU) Jack McDowell won the Cy Young in 1993! Show him some respect! Also, the other pitchers in this group are either too old, too young, or too Red Donahue. Young Bob Gibson isn't actually all that young, as he started his career kind of late, but he's been shaky at times in the Super-League, even if he is Bob Gibson. Old Don Sutton got by thanks to knowing the best way to scuff a ball. That's not exactly an ideal way to win a lot of games in the Super-League. '75 Bob Gibson is just about washed up, and probably won't survive the season. Red Donahue is just another deadballer. Bullpen 1. '03 Mariano Rivera/'95 Robb Nen/'95 Alejandro Pena/'75 Al Hrabosky/'75 Ron Reed/'03 Roger Clemens (NUR) 2. '90 Rob Dibble/'97 Robb Nen/'72 Sparky Lyle/'01 Keith Foulke/'88 Dave Smith/'25 Burleigh Grimes (SLA) 3. '93 John Smoltz/'85 Al Holland/'95 Bryan Harvey/'85 John Candelaria/'82 Danny Darwin/'85 Mike Witt (WAL) 4. '10 Jonathan Papelbon/'10 Daniel Bard/'96 Jeff Brantley/'10 Hideki Okajima/'99 Roberto Hernandez/'10 Josh Beckett (HAU) 5. '65 Lindy McDaniel/'99 Jason Isringhausen/'70 Eddie Watt/'99 Ron Mahay/'70 Pete Richert/'99 Tim Hudson (LAK) Hey, an entire division finally managed to build sane bullpens! Finally, I feel like I've reached you guys with all of my yelling and taunting. The Gravediggers have Rivera, which is basically enough by itself to put them over the top. ForeverBWFC has asked me to turn Yoshida into a usable reliever, and I've decided that I'll probably do that, just because the league is more fun with Yoshida in it. The Rakers have a solid bullpen, although why they thought Bryan Harvey was the guy they needed to put them over the top is a complete mystery to me. The Mad Knights are relying on the '10 Red Sox's bullpen and a couple of washed-up relievers to see them through the season. That's not the worst strategy, but it's not exactly great, either. The Longshots are putting their lives in the hands of Ron Mahay. That dog won't hunt, Dannomack, that dog won't hunt!!!!!!!!!!!
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I blame it on me being a rookie. I look forward to building another team in the future that is more well rounded... aka having some semblance of an outfield prior to trades/drafts.
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DannoMack posted:That started out so well... Pash posted:I blame it on me being a rookie. I look forward to building another team in the future that is more well rounded... aka having some semblance of an outfield prior to trades/drafts. Don't worry. You only play about half your games against your rivals. So being behind them in singular positional battles isn't the end of the world! Just beat the other divisions, grab the wild card, draft to shore up holes, and get super lucky! I am not looking forward to my division's preview. I do not think smasher will be a fraction as kind to me as pash or danno. I think my infield is a war crime.
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Can someone explain what the super lottery is? I must have missed that part. E: Also is there a waiver process for sending down/ calling up guys from your minors? DannoMack fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Aug 31, 2013 |
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DannoMack posted:Can someone explain what the super lottery is? I must have missed that part. The super lottery happened in SL-X. It was where for every 5 teams that signed up, 1 would randomly be chosen to fight against the Macho Men, Smasher's team. Win, and you get awesome prizes. Lose, and the 4 teams that WEREN'T selected get to pick players off your teams in a new draft phase that lasted 3 rounds. Essentially, you were going to lose 80%+ of your remaining games if you were selected against the Macho Men and lost. I think about 20 teams signed up. The Ryleh Cultists (CthulhuDreams) and Southie Hitmen (mks) were potential playoff teams, and were instead essentially destroyed. The Leicester Hunchbacks weren't that great, and turned historically bad when they got blown up good. I forgot who the fourth team was. It was what led to an inordinate number of 100+ win teams last season. Dannomack posted:E: Also is there a waiver process for sending down/ calling up guys from your minors?
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fwiw the Thunderstorms were also Lottery'd, but they sold their soul to the devil (read: Smasher) and are allowed to walk the earth until they do whatever task he deems fit for them.
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Aug 31, 2013 02:43
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I need rosters from the following teams: -Burma Imperialists -Cancun Tornados -Strickland Propane -Rockford Losers -Premodernists -Finger-Bangers I want them in the next 24 hours. Make it happen.
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The fourth team was the Cleveland Unicorns (v2), who were probably the third longest-running team in the league, aside from the Finger-Bangers and the Institution Known As The Eazy Dubyas. IceMole, the Cleveland Unicorns' owner, also serves as the mysterious third man of the Plunder Corp. Edit: Speaking of the Cancun Tornados, UltimoDragonQuest is up again!
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Dingers and strikeouts! Aramis Ramirez '05
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And that leaves but one more pick. From the depths of Rockford! We summon ye! ToiletOfSadness!
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code:The Tornados will remain at Target Field. UltimoDragonQuest fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Aug 31, 2013 |
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Pander posted:
I understand why expansion teams have their minors limited to 5 players so they don't bring a bunch of poo poo into the league, but in the instance that an expansion team were to have a rash of injuries to their catchers, would they be allowed to bring up an emergency catcher from their feeder team mid season or something?
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DannoMack posted:I understand why expansion teams have their minors limited to 5 players so they don't bring a bunch of poo poo into the league, but in the instance that an expansion team were to have a rash of injuries to their catchers, would they be allowed to bring up an emergency catcher from their feeder team mid season or something? It's highly unlikely you'll have all three catchers go out on you during an inaugral season, barring like. cbx-level luck with injuries. Though no, feeders are locked off to my knowledge, so the only way to acquire a catcher in that instance would be to trade a team. And generally, if all of your catchers got knocked out, they were either A) too old to play, B) didn't have personal catcher orders/platoons, or C) had poor health ratings to begin with, so were a poor choice. Generaly, you have to stick with the choices you make, and that's why every team usually has a backup-backup catcher in the minors.
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DannoMack posted:I understand why expansion teams have their minors limited to 5 players so they don't bring a bunch of poo poo into the league, but in the instance that an expansion team were to have a rash of injuries to their catchers, would they be allowed to bring up an emergency catcher from their feeder team mid season or something? No. For a couple of reasons. First, there's a super-draft that can restock your team if you really need. And if you're that worried, you can always just put a third catcher in your minors to begin with. Second, you can always make a trade, since most of the established teams have plenty of spare catchers. Third, people sometimes misunderstand the reason there's a 30-man limit. Yes, there are good logistical reasons for wanting to limit the number of players I have to input into the Super-League but, if history has shown us anything, I'm dedicated enough to the Super-League that I don't generally make these rules out of laziness. No, the reason there's a 30-man limit for new teams is because one of the worst things a new team can do is have a couple of bad weeks to start the season, and then start putting in worse players because of small sample size panic. It happens every season. Now, I can lecture you guys about small sample sizes or trusting your best players to come through for you ad infinitum, but me saying "things will get better" isn't particularly persuasive when Gary Carter hits .180 in the first month of the season. Owners, especially if their team appears to be struggling feel like they need to do something, and the 30-man limit is partly there to try and keep them from doing something dumb. So if I start carving out exceptions to that rule, I increase the risk of owners making bad decisions, and that's not good for anyone. And yeah, that means that there's a chance that Gary Carter will blow out his knee and then Elrod Hendricks gets hit by a car, and then Ramon Hernandez falls into the Springfield Mystery Spot, and you'll be left without a catcher, and that would suck. Then again, a) that's not very likely and b) setting up exceptions like that sets a bad precedent. And for that matter, if you feel like worrying over injuries to your team, I'd worry more about your center field situation. You're starting '06 Ken Griffey Jr., who's getting on in years, and whose tenure in Cincinnati was marked by constant injuries. If he goes down, then what? Well, you have '80 Tim Raines, but he's very green, and spent most of his career in left field because of a weak throwing arm. Behind him? Powell can't play center. Valentine can't play center. Old Frank Robinson can't play center. Old Tim Raines can't play center. Garret Anderson can't play center. Now, I think Tim Raines could probably hold down the fort if he had to, but my point is that this center field depth problem is one that you're much more likely to face that two or three of your catchers suffering long-term injuries. In summary, don't worry about it too much.
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What does inning eater even mean? I can get that it's not something positive but the meaning eludes me. As for the preview I take that Musial should DH alone and that Faber needs to disappear from the #1 spot. Who to replace him with though? Mussina was solid in the EC but probably not #1 material, Smasher doesn't like Reuschel despite him doing work in the league, Gibson and Clemens are old and Viola probably is about the same as Mussina. For the rest I probably have to wait for a more favourable Super Draft so I can shore up my outfield/pitching.
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e: ^^ An innings eater is a guy that pitches a ton of innings to take the load off the bullpen, basically. Think CC Sabathia or Jack Morris.Smasher Dynamo posted:SP3 Hey, I tried this too with my first team. It did not work. Monicro fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Aug 31, 2013 |
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 Our company directory can be found here: http://goo.gl/U0EHuD Feeders used: 1908 Washington Senators 1947 New York Yankees 1968 New York Yankees 1996 Los Angeles Dodgers Drafted: 1934 SP Carl Hubbell 1977 SP Rick Reuschel 1969 2B Joe Morgan Acquired through trades: 1988 1B Mark Grace 1988 RF Andre Dawson 2011 RP Joe Smith 1974 RP Doug Bird CSV file: code:code:code:code:code:
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With the final pick in the Dispersal Draft, the Losers select Cliff Lee 2010. I figure a guy with his fine control and strikeout abilities can't be terrible forever in the Super League. Of course, I'm like 40-60 with Tom Seaver on that gambit... edit: I'll post a roster at some point later today during a break in the football games.
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 Super League XI Opening Day Roster Team Name: Rockford Losers Home: Rockford, IL Stadium: Rockford Municipal Ballpark (based on Comiskey Park I, circa 1986-1990) Team Roster: C Joe Torre (65 Brewers, acquired from Honolulu) 1B Frank Thomas (93 White Sox) 2B Roberto Alomar (93 Blue Jays) 3B Kevin Youkilis (07 Red Sox, acquired from Seattle Homers) SS Joe Cronin (34 Senators) LF Tris Speaker (21 Indians) CF Oscar Charleston (Negro Leagues) RF Frank Robinson (64 Reds) C Victor Martinez (04 Indians) 2B Jeff Kent (00 Giants) SS Miguel Tejada (00 Athletics, acquired from Atlantis) IF Frankie Frisch (28 Cardinals) LF Lefty O'Doul (33 Giants) OF Tony Oliva (66 Twins, acquired from Greenbrier) SP Tom Seaver (71 Mets) SP Nolan Ryan (71 Mets) SP Jerry Koosman (71 Mets) SP Don Drysdale (61 Dodgers, acquired from South Bolton) SP Satchel Paige (Negro Leagues, acquired from Brooklyn) RP John Smoltz (01 Braves, acquired from Boston) RP John Wetteland (94 Expos) RP Steve Bedrosian (87 Phillies) RP Arthur Rhodes (96 Orioles, acquired from Seattle Homers) RP Randy Myers (90 Reds, acquired from Motor City) SP/RP C.C. Sabathia (04 Indians) AAA C Bill Dickey (43 Yankees) AAA IF Omar Vizquel (04 Indians) AAA IF/LF Pete Rose (64 Reds) AAA LF Tim Raines (93 White Sox) AAA RF Magglio Ordoñez (06 Tigers) AAA SP Cliff Lee (10 Mariners) AAA SP Alex Fernandez (93 White Sox) AAA SP Harry Breechen (49 Cardinals) AAA SP Jim O’Toole (64 Reds) AAA RP Roberto Hernandez (93 White Sox) AAA RP Rafael Bentancourt (04 Indians) AAA RP Bob Wickman (04 Indians) AAA RP JJ Putz (04 Mariners, acquired from Greenbrier) AAA RP Al Alburquerque (11 Tigers, acquired from Brooklyn) Lineups vs RHP LF Speaker 1B Thomas 3B Youkilis CF Charleston RF Robinson C Torre (catches for Paige, Seaver, Ryan)/Martinez (for Drysdale, Koosman) SS Cronin 2B Alomar P Pitcher vs LHP LF Speaker 3B Youkilis RF Robinson 1B Thomas CF Charleston C Torre (catches for Paige, Seaver, Ryan)/Martinez (for Drysdale, Koosman) 2B Kent SS Cronin P Pitcher Pitching Staff: SP Paige SP Seaver SP Drysdale SP Ryan SP Koosman CL Smoltz SU Bedrosian SR Wetteland SR Myers MR Rhodes LR Sabathia Strategy: Hit and Run: -2 Sacrifice Bunt: -5 Squeeze Play: 0 Trying for extra bases: +2 Stealing Bases: +1 Aggressively Tagging Up: +2 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): +1 Giving Intentional Walks: 0 Pitching Around Good Hitters: +2 Bringing the Infield In: 0 Guarding the Lines: 0 Making Cutoff Throws: +2 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: 0 Bringing in Pinch Runners: 0 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: +3 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -3 Letting pitchers pitch through trouble: +1 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: +2
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Smasher Dynamo posted:So if I start carving out exceptions to that rule, I increase the risk of owners making bad decisions, and that's not good for anyone. And yeah, that means that there's a chance that Gary Carter will blow out his knee and then Elrod Hendricks gets hit by a car, and then Ramon Hernandez falls into the Springfield Mystery Spot, and you'll be left without a catcher, and that would suck. Then again, a) that's not very likely and b) setting up exceptions like that sets a bad precedent. This all make sense and I guess I'll take your word for it and stop fretting about my 4th string catcher situation anymore! If I have to. I guess. Humph. As for CF, 2000 Garret Anderson played most of his games in centre that year and the year before so I thought he might be okay. I figured Tim Raines had enough range to cover it in a pinch, and I thought Valentine's speed and all-time great throwing arm might translate okay to emergency CF duties. It doesn't matter though, because Griffey is going to be just fine out there. You'll see!!! Monicro posted:Hey, I tried this too with my first team. I got rid of Andre Dawson because of your warnings, but I'm very attached to Steve Rogers!
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Marauder ROSTERS. NOW!
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You'll have them by 10PM. Now is not an option.
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 Location: Mandalay, Burma Home Grounds: Old Moulmein Pagoda (AT&T Park) Super League XI Roster Lineup: code:code:code:code:Dudes Technically On My Team But You Don't Really Need To Code Now: code:Hit and Run: -3 Sacrifice Bunt: -2 Squeeze Play: -2 Trying for extra bases: +1 Stealing Bases: +1 Aggressively Tagging Up: +1 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -2 Giving Intentional Walks: -4 Pitching Around Good Hitters: -3 Bringing the Infield In: 0 Guarding the Lines: -1 Making Cutoff Throws: -1 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -3 Bringing in Pinch Runners: -2 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: +1 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: +2 Letting pitchers pitch throw through trouble: +1 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: +2
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The Time-Tested, Mother-Approved, Constitutionally-Mandated Super-League XI Preview: Vae Victis Division Last Season! The Losers decided to take a season off to "find themselves", leaving the Coburns and Florida Oranges to battle it out for the Vae Victus Divsion Championship. The Coburns, fueled by the power of the Marauder Syndicate, managed to take first place in the last week of the season, although the Oranges made it to the playoffs as a wildcard. The Generics returned to the Super-League and, as per tradition, they managed to survive despite not being particularly good. There were some other teams, but they are dead now, and so I don't have to remember them. Why You Should Give a poo poo? 1. There can be only one! The Losers, Oranges and Coburns are all former Vae Victis Division Champions. They are all elite teams in the Dynamo League, a league with no shortage of good teams. But only one of them will become the Super-League XI Vae Victis Division Champion, and become the new power in the Vae Victis Division. 2. Genericus Aeternus The Generics, as a rule, never thrive, but always survive. In the league of endless war and strife, they are Switzerland. But perhaps it is time for the Swiss men to conquer the world. But probably not. 3. blakelmenakle has returned to the Super-League! Did you know that blakelmenakle is a two-time, two-time, two-time Super-League Champion? Of course, that was a while ago, and he hasn't done much since then, but he's got a new team with a nice logo, and who's to say the Purifiers can't make some noise in the Vae Victis? 4. Communism has returned to the Super-League! The Cleveland Communists didn't do so great in the Super-League. The Cleveland Commies didn't do much better. But here's hoping the Cosmobats can finally defeat the decadence of post-industrial capitalism. Catcher 1. '99 Mike Pizza (RCH) 2. 1892 King Kelly (COS) 3. '30 Gabby Harnett (COB) 4. '65 Joe Torre (ROC) 5. '36 Bill Dickey (ALM) 6. '06 Joe Mauer (FLO) Mike Pizza is the best hitting catcher in Major League history, and he wasn't that bad with the glove to make his offensive production anything less than game-changing. King Kelly is a bizarre player whose numbers are going to end up looking bizarre. Then again, he was also one of the first superstars in baseball history, and a great batter. Hartnett is solid, even if he no longer has Det. Don Slaught backing him up. Joe Torre can hit, but isn't a very good fielder, and would have to move to third just a few years after 1965. Bill Dickey is just too erratic in the Super-League to give a better rating to. Joe Mauer had a dreadful season last year, so here's hoping he isn't quite as awful this time around. First Baseman 1. '36 Lou Gehrig (ALM) 2. '27 Jimmie Foxx (COB) 3. '93 Frank Thomas (ROC) 4. '07 Albert Pujols (FLO) 5. '65 Willie McCovey (COS) 6. '42 Jimmie Foxx (RCH) A good group. I think Gehrig is probably the best here, because, all told, he probably is the greatest first baseman of all-time, and was still basically in his prime in '36. Jimmie Foxx might be the second-best first baseman of all-time, but he was a bit young in '27, though he'll still probably have a good year. I'll take Thomas over Pujols because, and it's easy to forget this, in the early '90s, people were talking about Thomas being about the best right-handed hitter in decades. Pujols, when all is said and done, will almost certainly end up with a lower OPS+ for his career. McCovey will hit home runs, but has had problems making contact in the Super-League, usually ending up with a horrifically low BA. Jimmie Foxx was just about washed up in 1942, even though he wasn't particularly old, even by the standards of his time. I'm not sure how that will end up. Second Baseman 1. '75 Rod Carew/'85 Ryne Sandberg (COB) 2. '93 Roberto Alomar/'00 Jeff Kent (ROC) 3. '30 Rogers Hornsby (ALM) 4. '03 Nap Lajoie (RCH) 5. '05 Nap Lajoie (FLO) 6. '12 Nap Lajoie (COS) The Carew/Sandberg platoon has usually been pretty great in the Super-League, and I see no reason why that wouldn't be the case this season as well. The Alomar/Kent platoon is almost the opposite of the Carew/Sandberg platoon in how the better glove gets more time in the Losers' platoon as opposed to how the Coburns' use their second baseman. Still, they should both be fine. '30 Hornsby can't really field at all, as he's old, and was never a good fielder to begin with. Yeah, he can hit, but second base is still a glove-first position. I've already made my feelings on Nap Lajoie clear in an earlier preview, and don't feel like I need to go over that again. Yeah, he'll hit .300, but won't draw walks, won't hit for power, and doesn't have a great glove. Third Baseman 1. '83 George Brett/'78 Mike Schmidt (COB) 2. '34 Mel Ott (COS) 3. '49 Jackie Robinson (RCH) 4. '70 Dick Allen (FLO) 5. '36 Red Rolfe/'10 Kevin Youkilis (ALM) 6. '07 Kevin Youkilis (ROC) The Brett/Schmidt platoon is not only the best in this division, but I'm not sure how you could come up with a better platoon than this. It's been utterly devastating in practice, and is one of the reasons that the Coburns have been able to survive their lackluster rotation. Mel Ott isn't really a third baseman, but he can play third base credibly, and he has a great bat. Jackie Robinson is a great fielder at third base, but he's never going hit 30 home runs like Ott, which is essentially the only reason that I list Ott first. I know, defense does matter, but Ott is a tremendous offensive player, and while Jackie Robinson is a fine hitter himself, he doesn't have the slugging power of Ott. Dick Allen is a lovely defender, and probably shouldn't be playing third base full-time. But, he was one of the best hitters of his era, and so his horrible glovework can be partially excused. The Rolfe/Youkilis platoon is interesting, in that they're two very different types of players, with Rolfe being a glove man with decent contact skills, and Youkilis being the Greek God of Walks and Very Little Defensive Ability. Still, that platoon is probably just a bit better than Youk alone. Shortstop 1. '34 Joe Cronin (ROC) 2. '86 Alan Trammell (FLO) 3. '90 Barry Larkin (RCH) 4. '88 Barry Larkin (ALM) 5. '87 Barry Larkin (COB) 6. '59 Brooks Robinson (COS) Cronin is a great hitter for a shortstop, even if his glove was starting to slip by this poin in this career. Trammell is good at all phases of the game, but played in an era when hitting 20 home runs as a shortstop was fantastic, and so isn't going to put out incredible numbers. As for the Larkins, he was at his best in the early '90s, and so that's why I arranged things the way I did. As far as the Coburns go, I'd probably start Derek Jeter over Larkin, if only because the flyball nature of the Coburns' staff means that Larkin's superior fielding isn't that important, and Jeter is a significantly better hitter than Larkin. Brooks Robinson is not a shortstop, comrade. Not even a little bit. Left Fielder 1. '39 Ted Williams (COB) 2. '89 Barry Bonds (FLO) 3. '21 Tris Speaker (ROC) 4. '59 Stan Musial/'44 Joe Medwick (RCH) 5. '65 Orlando Cepeda (COS) 6. '74 Billy Williams/'88 Eric Davis (ALM) I think the top two spots are pretty self-explanatory. Speaker's glove is kind of wasted in left, but he's a good enough hitter than his bat will play in left. The '59 Musial/'44 Medwick platoon is okay. It's not going to be great, probably, because Musial is going to deteriorate throughout the season, and Medwick just doesn't have the sort of plate discipline you'd like to see out of an elite corner outfielder. Cepeda probably shouldn't be playing in left field, and the only reason the Giants ever played him there is because they also had McCovey, who was even less defensively-capable, playing at first. Old Williams and Eric Davis are really just filler that probably needs to be replaced at some point. Center Fielder 1. '?? Oscar Charleston (ROC) 2. '36 Joe DiMaggio (ALM) 3. '89 Barry Bonds (COB) 4. '65 Willie Mays (COS) 5. '49 Duke Snider/'49 Carl Furillo (RCH) 6. '31 Kiki Cuyler (FLO) Charleston is probably the best center fielder who ever played. And I guess my position is that he is, as he's in a division with both a Mays and a DiMaggio, and I've still ranked him first. DiMaggio is a great player, and I'm not sure there's much else to say about him, especially since none of us are in that generation that reflexively considers DiMaggio to be the greatest player that has ever lived. I guess I put Bonds above Mays here just because Mays has had problems consistently producing in the Super-League, whereas Bonds has been more consistent, and young Bonds had the legs, if not the arm, to handle center field, but didn't have to thanks to the presence of Van Slyke. If Mogul's engine were a bit more robust, Mays would be better than Bonds, and I could make the rankings a bit more accurate. The Snider/Furillo platoon is kind of odd, in that they were both on the Dodgers, and they weren't platooned in real life, but I can understand kw0134 being a bit leery of allowing Snider to face left-handed pitchers. I don't know that Furillo really has the range for center, but I guess it's not the worst thing in the world. Cuyler has contact skills, and decent range. Not much power, though, and that vexes me. Right Fielder 1. '33 Mel Ott (COB) 2. '44 Mel Ott (RCH) 3. '64 Frank Robinson (ROC) 4. '03 Ichiro Suzuki (FLO) 5. '12 Joe Jackson (COS) 6. '36 Dixie Walker (ALM) Young Ott beats Old Ott. Then again, my love for Ott is so great that I'll put old Ott above a prime Frank Robinson, because Ott is that awesome. Also, Ott was only 35 in 1944, so it's not like he was that old. Frank Robinson has been up and down for the Losers. He's had some great years, and he's had some ghastly years, some so bad that you can almost see how it wasn't the worst idea in the world to trade him for Milt Pappas. Suzuki is a great fielder and hits a metric ton of singles, and while that's great, and valuable, to an extent, I like corner outfielders to have at least some pop, especially when you consider that Suzuki played in an offense-dominated era. Joe Jackson isn't much of a fielder, and doesn't have many skills besides contact hitting. If he had played into the '20s, he might have developed a power stroke, and thus be more useful, but, suffice to say, mistakes were made and that didn't happen. Dixie Walker is a racist and not particularly great at baseball. Bench 1. '04 Jim Thome/'90 Robin Yount/'87 Eric Davis/'97 Jorge Posada/Platoon Partners (COB) 2. '04 Victor Martinez/'00 Miguel Tejada/'28 Frankie Frisch/'33 Lefty O'Doul/'66 Tony Oliva/Platoon Partner (ROC) 3. '26 Pat Collins/'99 Wade Boggs/'88 Tim Raines/'30 Goose Goslin/'03 Mark Bellhorn (FLO) 4. '00 Jason Kendall/'36 Tony Lazzeri/'88 Dave Concepcion/'00 Brian Giles/Platoon Partners (ALM) 5. '49 Pee Wee Reese/'49 Roy Campanella/'03 Elmer Flick/'03 Charlie Hickman/Platoon Partners (RCH) 6. '65 Tom Haller/1892 Hugh Duffy/'12 Ray Chapman/'65 Jim Ray Hart/'59 Gene Woodling/'59 Bob Nieman (COS) The Coburns have roughly ten thousand quality hitters they can call up at any time to go with the superior bench players already on their active roster. It's pretty impressive. The Losers have some decent pieces on their bench, even if they don't have a true fourth outfielder (although if Charleston got injured, Speaker would just move over to center, so it's not a huge concern). The Oranges have the Goose, and not much else, and that's good enough, since the rest of the benches in this division are even worse. The Purifiers have players that can theoretically play a bunch of different positions, but not players I'd ever want to use. Lazzeri s old, Concepcion is old, Brian Giles can't hit lefties or play center field. The Generics have Campanella, who I like, and a lot of players than I really, really don't like. Flick and Hickman are both deadballers, and so are limited both offensively and defensively. It's just not a great bench. The Cosmobats' bench is full of guys who are just too limited to be very helpful. SP1 1. '?? Satchel Paige (ROC) 2. '86 Roger Clemens (FLO) 3. '94 Greg Maddux (COB) 4. '03 Addie Joss (RCH) 5. '65 Juan Marichal (COS) 6. '36 Lefty Gomez (ALM) A good group. Paige is one of the best pitchers ever, Clemens and Maddux are the only guys in the past 45 years to amass 350 wins, and Joss has a career ERA of under 2.00. I rank Clemens a bit ahead of Maddux because he always had better power than Maddux did and, despite Maddux's great control, I do think that puts Clemens just a half-notch ahead, although I'll admit that it's mostly a judgment call. Joss is a deadballer's deadballer, and should be fine, even if I'm not sure he can keep up the pace last season. Marichal is good, he's just quite up to the level of the four ahead of him, which isn't that much of a slight. Lefty Gomez should feel honored just to be part of this group, because he's not particularly good in comparison to the rest, being just a left-hander who was propped up by the late-30s Yankees Dynasty. SP2 1. '71 Tom Seaver (ROC) 2. '78 Nolan Ryan (FLO) 3. '06 Roy Halladay (RCH) 4. '75 Bert Blyleven (COB) 5. '74 Rick Reuschel (ALM) 6. '98 Randy Johnson (COS) I think Seaver is likely to be the most consistently good of this group, even if his past-performance doesn't quite seem to trend in that direction. Ryan's biggest problem is his consistency. He might have a great year, or he might have a truly awful year, and it's hard to predict one way or the other. Halladay has been good in the past couple of seasons, and he might end up being the best out of this group. Blyleven is usually solid, but almost never much more than that, which is fine, because the Coburns' offense is good enough that they don't need their pitching to dominate. Reuschel is a good mid-rotation guy, but I'm not sure if he's good enough to be a team's #2 starter. Randy Johnson will have a few good games, and a bunch of bad games, and it'll be up to the bawfuls to see whether or not the good games make Johnson's struggles worth it. SP3 1. 1892 John Clarkson (COS) 2. '61 Don Drysdale (ROC) 3. '96 Curt Schilling (ALM) 4. '10 Felix Hernandez (FLO) 5. '85 Davie Stieb (COB) 6. '03 Red Donahue (RCH) Why is Clarkson the best of this group? Because it's not a very good group. Beyond that, he's a great deadballer, and, with any luck, the defense behind him won't make him look completely ridiculous. Drysdale was still young and wild in 1961, but Comiskey Park is big enough so that at least some of his mistakes will get swept under the rug, especially with Speaker and Charleston in the outfield. Schilling has power, but has been inconsistent in the past. Hernandez will probably be solid, at least with any luck. Stieb is also a guy who's apt to be good enough for this spot. Red Donahue is just deadball filler. SP4 1. '22 Pete Alexander (FLO) 2. '71 Nolan Ryan (ROC) 3. 1892 Kid Nichols (COS) 4. '84 Bert Blyleven (COB) 5. '98 Kevin Brown (ALM) 6. '66 Luis Tiant (RCH) Pete Alexander is Pete Alexander. I've already written about him more than once, so I'm not going to do so again. Similarly, young Ryan is someone I've already talked about, and the same concerns about his consistency apply here, although, in the fourth spot in the rotation, they're probably not as pressing as they are for the Oranges. Nichols is actually one of the best pitchers of all time, it's just that he played in an era before baseball became as popularized as it would be just a few years later, Blyleven is fine. A bit prone to giving up home runs, I guess, but the Coburns could live with that. Kevin Brown is okay. Just okay. Just like it real life, where he was the ace of two teams that made it to the World Series, but neither of those teams ('97 Marlins, '98 Padres) were really known as juggernauts. As a fourth starter, he's probably okay. '66 Luis Tiant has basically never made it through a full season as a starter, and has had a ton of chances in which to do so. I'm not sure that he'll last this season, either. SP5 1. '71 Jerry Koosman (ROC) 2. '65 Gaylord Perry (COS) 3. '83 Bob Welch (ALM) 4. '03 Earl Moore (RCH) 5. '66 Sam McDowell (FLO) 6. '78 Larry Dierker (COB) You might not believe this, but Koosman really is the class of this group. I just don't have a ton of faith in Perry. Why? Not enough power. Also, Koosman has had five straight seasons of excellence as the Losers #5 starter, which is a much better track record than anyone else on this list. Bob Welch is a bit better than his reputation, probably because I've spent ten season making fun of any owner who uses Bob Welch, but he's probably fine as a #5 starter. Earl Moore is just another deadballer. Sam McDowell might be great, but, in all likelihood, is going to be an utter disaster. Larry Dierker should be the Coburns' 5th starter, and the chances of him stick at the #5 spot for the entire season is essentially zero. Bullpen 1. '84 Dennis Eckersley/'04 Billy Wagner/'06 Joe Nathan/'06 Pat Neshek/'85 Jeff Reardon/'10 Joba Chamberlain (FLO) 2. '01 John Smoltz/'94 John Wetteland/'87 Steve Bedrosian/'96 Arthur Rhodes/'90 Randy Myers/'04 C.C. Sabathia (ROC) 3. '88 Rob Dibble/'88 John Franco/'88 Norm Charlton/'88 Jose Rijo/'00 Mike Williams/'36 Red Ruffing (ALM) 4. '92 Tom Henke/'11 Daniel Bard/'81 Jeff Reardon/'87 John Franco/'04 Cliff Lee/'54 Mike Garcia (COB) 5. '04 Billy Wagner/'90 Jose Rijo/'08 Brian Wilson/'95 Paul Assenmacher/'95 Ricky Bottalico/'49 Don Newcombe (RCH) 6. '09 Joakim Soria/'59 Hoyt Wilhelm/'12 Vean Gregg/'59 Hal Brown/'65 Bobby Bolin/'59 Milt Pappas (COS) The Oranges' bullpen is generally regarding as one of the best in the Super-League, and, looking at the names in that pen, it's a reputation that is well-earned. The Losers' also have a solid bullpen that's been distilled through years of misfires and mistakes, which is a necessary part of perfecting a bullpen. The Purifiers are using the famous bullpen of the late '80s, early '90s Reds, which were so good that many people think that they were the biggest reason the Reds won the World Series in 1990. You know, it's truly bizarre to remember that the Reds won the World Series in 1990, isn't it? I mean, I was alive in that time period, I remember the Cubs scuffling around with young Maddux and the declining years of the Hawk. I remember the Yankees being lovely with guys like Kevin Maas and Don Mattingly's broken back. I remember the Royals when they weren't a punchline. I can't remember the Reds being anything resembled contenders until the past few years, and even then...I still don't really think much of them. The Generics have an okay bullpen, but I don't understand what Rijo is doing as the setup man, especially since he's a better starter than most of the guys in the Generics' rotation. The Cosmobats' bullpen isn't that bad, it's just that everyone else's is better.
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Speaking as someone who tried to use the very same model on the Canton Catastrophes, do not trust El Tiante, kw0134! You will condemn yourself to ruin!
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 Teams Selected: 2011 Phillies (4) 1896 Orioles (3) 1892 Phillies (2) 1981 Cubs (1) Home City: Philadelphia, PA Home Stadium: Panopticon Field at Adm. Albert Calavicci Memorial Stadium (355/385/425/395/360), fair infield, short grass, large foul ground. 30-Man Roster: code:code:code:code:code:Hit and Run: +3 Sacrifice Bunt: -1 Squeeze Play: +2 Trying for extra bases: +3 Stealing Bases: +3 Aggressively Tagging Up: +2 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -3 Giving Intentional Walks: -4 Pitching Around Good Hitters: -2 Bringing the Infield In: -3 Guarding the Lines: +2 Making Cutoff Throws: +1 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -3 Bringing in Pinch Runners: -2 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: -3 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: +1 Letting pitchers pitch through trouble: +3 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: +4
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