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Baron Bifford posted:This makes more sense. It's hard to cover up Chaos Space Marines when they keep attacking the Imperium. The Imperium is huge. Galaxy sized, mind boggilingly, 'curl up and die at the thought of your insignificance' huge. There is a lot of scope between worlds. It's quite possible that some world near the eye of terror is better informed on chaos than a comfortable, tithe paying rich world at the other end of the galaxy (who are one toga party away from Slaanesh). Then you have some dank, industrial forge world where the people literally know nothing but birth, work, attend Emperor church and horrible, early choking death. Look at how North Korea know nothing of the outside world and worship a loon with a bad haircut compared to the freedoms of the first world. Even the US itself has massive divides in attitudes between it's states. Now spread that across a pants-shittingly vast empire, throw in a catastrophic galaxy wide disaster in the Age of Strife, a motherfucking intergalactic scale Terminator style rise of the machines war (a mere footnote in 40k terms), an all conquering crusade led by demigods on a scale unheard of in the known universe, a civil war across literally a million worlds and the rise of the most messed up, oppressive regime in the history of the species running on pure inertia of a war kicked off 10,000 years ago. You can forgive the authors if procedures are different at one end of the galaxy to the other. Especially given the autonomy and total power of inquisitors operating alone and unmonitored. Even in Eisenhorn there are differences. Gregor likes to get down on the planet and sneak about, winning hearts and minds, only bringing the hammer when he needs to. The other older guy likes to arrive with the full Imperial floaty skull flying baby theatrics and his finger hovering over 'EXTERMINATUS' on his speed dial. Some Inquisitor might exterminate a whole planet in some outer rim world because someone drew an eight pointed star, whereas nobidy is going to execute a bunch of Cadians becuse they know about chaos. It shows how versatile the setting is when some of the worst authors to put pen to paper can't really screw it up to the point of breaking it.
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There's gonna be a HH Tallarn book. But it's a limited edition novella! Urgh.
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Nissir posted:Recently became interested in 40k, is there a list somewhere of the unabridged audio books? There was a very short version of Eisenhorn on tape, but it really only got me wanting more. Demiurge4 posted:Well the Emperor was pretty convincing when he touched a Titan and said "Machine, repair thyself" and it's broken actuator magically fixed itself.
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Schneider Heim posted:There's gonna be a HH Tallarn book. yaaaaaaaaayuuuuuuuuuuuugrggggggggggggg gently caress off
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On a positive note, for those of you who didn't know, Amazon added some purported release dates: The Unremembered Empire (HH, Dan Abnett) - 2/18/14  The Talon of Horus (ADB) - 4/1/14 (This is his new Black Legion series)Scars (HH, Chris Wraight) - 5/6/2014
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berzerkmonkey posted:But going with the theme of 40K stories being a mish-mash of truth, lies, and half remembered tales, what the Emperor could have done is just initiated a self-repair function on the Titan, and it was seen by the onlookers as a miracle. Then again, being a nigh-immortal being who actually lived through the Dark Age of Technology, you could argue that having this secret knowledge is actually a sort of miracle.
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Schneider Heim posted:There's gonna be a HH Tallarn book. Also, John French. Bleh
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Fried Chicken posted:Also, John French. Bleh Finally, someone else who thinks French is mostly boring.
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Cream_Filling posted:Then again, being a nigh-immortal being who actually lived through the Dark Age of Technology, you could argue that having this secret knowledge is actually a sort of miracle.
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Schneider Heim posted:There's gonna be a HH Tallarn book. Seriously, gently caress them, that's it, I've had enough, so fed up of their shady marketing technique.
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So why is it there are no stories about Mortarion or the Death Guard? Is it because the explanation for them siding with Horus is pretty simple and would be really hard to expand that into a book?
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Lyer posted:So why is it there are no stories about Mortarion or the Death Guard? Is it because the explanation for them siding with Horus is pretty simple and would be really hard to expand that into a book? Flight of the Eisenstein is primarily about the Death Guard.
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VanSandman posted:Finally, someone else who thinks French is mostly boring. His short in Mark of Calth was interesting, but by and large, he is pretty meh. Maybe he will surprise us
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Regarding Flight of the Eisenstein: It's decent by HH standards, which is basically just saying "At least it's not Galaxy in Flames or Battle of the Motherfucking Abyss", but it's still fairly mediocre and forgettable and the main character's story is only continued in their loving audio dramas. gently caress you, GW. I regret buying it, myself.
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Khizan posted:Regarding Flight of the Eisenstein: It's decent by HH standards, which is basically just saying "At least it's not Galaxy in Flames or Battle of the Motherfucking Abyss", but it's still fairly mediocre and forgettable and the main character's story is only continued in their loving audio dramas. gently caress you, GW. I regret buying it, myself. What, don't you just want to hear all about James Swallow's pet Mary Sue?
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Papa Nurgle is definitely the most forgotten of the Chaos gods, which is a shame because he's probably the friendliest, in a manner of speaking.
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IIRC, in Soul Hunter Talos turns to the Nurgle apparition and asks it "so, aren't you going to try and tempt me too?" And the apparition is like "no it's cool, I'm here because union regs, also this is what's actually happening..."
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Nephilm posted:IIRC, in Soul Hunter Talos turns to the Nurgle apparition and asks it "so, aren't you going to try and tempt me too?" Actually I think it's more like 'I know you don't want what I have to offer so screw you, Talos of the Night Lords.'
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Nephilm posted:What, don't you just want to hear all about James Swallow's pet Mary Sue? The concept behind that guy isn't even that bad - a lone loyalist from a traitor legion putting together a proto-Inquisition is a perfectly decent concept. It's just the execution that's terrible. Abnett or ADB could do a hell of a lot with that setup.
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Schneider Heim posted:There's gonna be a HH Tallarn book. You have to be loving kidding me, they gave one of the major moments of the Heresy to John French? There is one person who is amazing at writing stuff about the Guard, and that is Abnett. Give it to him.
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Cream_Filling posted:What is your basis for saying this?
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VanSandman posted:Actually I think it's more like 'I know you don't want what I have to offer so screw you, Talos of the Night Lords.' Cream_Filling posted:The concept behind that guy isn't even that bad - a lone loyalist from a traitor legion putting together a proto-Inquisition is a perfectly decent concept. It's just the execution that's terrible. Abnett or ADB could do a hell of a lot with that setup.
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Nephilm posted:Perhaps, been a while since I read. Well he also encounters a woman that claims to be a Saint of the Emperor who also turns out to be right absolutely 100% of the time during those few months.
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Nephilm posted:Perhaps, been a while since I read.
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Demiurge4 posted:Well the Emperor was pretty convincing when he touched a Titan and said "Machine, repair thyself" and it's broken actuator magically fixed itself. berzerkmonkey posted:But going with the theme of 40K stories being a mish-mash of truth, lies, and half remembered tales, what the Emperor could have done is just initiated a self-repair function on the Titan, and it was seen by the onlookers as a miracle.
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Baron Bifford posted:I can imagine a future edition of some codex giving a vehicle unit some new functionality or upgrade, and it will be justified in the fluff by some tech-priest explorator discovering a user manual for that vehicle with a few extra pages that were missing from previous copies, and those missing pages detailed how to operate the void shields that until that point were useless.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Well, that's essentially how they explain away new versions of vehicles based on a particular chassis. "Hey look - we found an STC that allows us to turn this tractor into a plasma-spewing death machine! Hooray!" Well, you've got to have some potent equipment if you're going to harvest...Khorne-fields  (And yes, I know there's a short story about Khorne worshipers on an agricultural world).
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It's in Abnett's Brothers of the Snake. I love how the Inquisitor in it keeps making jokes about the Khorne corn-dolls to the Space Marines and gets no reaction at all from them.
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Khizan posted:It's in Abnett's Brothers of the Snake. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_the_Corn
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VanSandman posted:Has anyone ever written a 40k story based off Anabasis? I guess you could watch this and pretend they're hive gangers: 
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Baron Bifford posted:I can imagine a future edition of some codex giving a vehicle unit some new functionality or upgrade, and it will be justified in the fluff by some tech-priest explorator discovering a user manual for that vehicle with a few extra pages that were missing from previous copies, and those missing pages detailed how to operate the void shields that until that point were useless. This goes back to what I was saying a page or two ago about how they should handwave this stuff. Unfortunately, it doesn't really work since they don't progress the timeline, so by definition whatever time period the "new" technology was ostensibly discovered and propagated will have already been in the fluff before, and it will still be a retcon. If they could just unclench their asscheeks and say "oh yeah, it was in M42.010 that we finally decided to mount anti-aircraft weapons on rhinos," that would be fine, and they honestly wouldn't have to progress it very far, mere handfuls of years at a time... but for some reason they've decided to draw a line in the sand.
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JerryLee posted:The balance of the tabletop game changes (or at least has the potential to change) every time a new codex gets released and suddenly there are a bunch of new units that $FACTION totally had all along we swear. Why can't they just use storyline progression to lampshade that poo poo, like the new chaos codex comes out because Abaddon conquered a major imperial planet and there was a secret heldrake factory buried underneath the surface where nobody knew about it? It would kill two birds with one stone.
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