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Athenry posted:You can also save old ladies by stopping the criminal before he acts, but then you look like a crazy person to the public. Or you wait until she gets mugged and look like a vigilante. Its an interesting choice that hopefully won't end up too simple. I think a good way to make it a fun risk/reward mechanic for the player is to make it so there's a really good chance the criminal will actually kill the victim, and because you're right there when the victim might get killed, there's another dice roll that will determine whether or not you'll be seen as an accomplice if a murder takes place, maybe even based on your physical proximity to the event. The risk factor is that you won't know how much time will go by between the start of the crime's commission and the murder itself. You might have 10 seconds between to react, you might have 1 second before it's all over. Either you can avoid the risk entirely by just leaving and letting fate take its course, meaning even though your stats won't be affected you'll still probably feel a bit guilty as a human being even though you know it's just a video game, or you could take a proactive stance and take a very small loss of your community standing by killing/incapacitating the criminal before the crime, or you can wait until the crime starts and depending on how you do, take either a large boost or a large cut from your community rep. GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Sep 5, 2013 |
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Another thing I was wondering about this game: will there be less-lethal weaponry (rubber bullets, pepper spray, tasers)? At some point (probably the first time) I want to do a pure-Batman (Begins) run (no direct killing, but I'd probably allow thugs to fall to their deaths or die in an exploding monorail crash).
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Sep 5, 2013 16:04
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That's probably the point of the baton. I like it as a signature weapon for Aiden, it's not normally seen as a cool weapon in fiction but they make it work.
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Sep 5, 2013 16:22
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Terper posted:I just laughed at that part. "It's not so black and white, we want to make real moral choices. Now, do you steal this single mother's money y/n". I thought you'd have the option to put money into her account to help her, but they didn't show that off in the video.
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Sep 5, 2013 16:24
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Leb posted:I mean, I get that it's a game and all but when the whole point of the game is total information awareness, we're supposed to simply allow that the breach of a federal facility and the murder of 10 government employees is going to go unnoticed outside of the little red circle on your minimap?  Also they're explicitly not federal facilities. Probably because it's a lot more plausible for a single vigilante to fight a city government than the federal government.
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Sep 5, 2013 16:35
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Sindai posted:Probably because it's a lot more plausible for a single vigilante to fight a city government than the federal government. See: Greg Pitkis versus the fair town of Pawnee 
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Sep 5, 2013 16:59
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Leb posted:I mean, if some dude broke into a federal facility (cause let's be honest, the feds would be all over a system like CTOS, regardless of its origins) and gunned down 10 contractors... 
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Leb posted:How exactly are they going to handle the CTOS assault quests? I mean, if some dude broke into a federal facility (cause let's be honest, the feds would be all over a system like CTOS, regardless of its origins) and gunned down 10 contractors, the entire city would go on lockdown until the perpetrator was apprehended. And then they'd tear down the entire system until they determined exactly what the perpetrator had done. http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2013/05/31/187316703/Rio-Goes-High-Tech-With-An-Eye-Toward-Olympics-World-Cup Federal involvement is not necessarily a given. Of course, this operations center in Rio is run by people instead of being completely automated. Anyway, it's the Assassin's Creedification of all Ubisoft games, Aiden will do the equivalent of ripping down wanted posters until he's incognito again.
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Croccers posted:Contractors still using AK-47's No one in game industry know anything about guns other than what they read on Wikipedia. 
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Dr.Oblivious posted:No one in game industry know anything about guns other than what they read on Wikipedia. Yeah, but you'd figure that in the lexicon of Pop Culture Guns they'd at least rate P90s.
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Chaltab posted:Not as far as I know? Unless they've figured out a way to make XBL, PSN, Nintendo Network, and Steam all work together without any hiccups. On six different vastly different platforms with vastly different specs? (You say still like it should be expected at this point, but I can't think of any AAA title with that feature.) There are games out there that have cross play between their home console and PC (see Shadowrun for XB360, FF14 and Portal 2 for PS3) and we're going to see more of it in the future (War Thunder and Warframe for PS4 will do cross platform multiplayer with PC users). The technology has been there, but I think the console manufacturers policies are more to do with the lack of cross multiplayer games this generation. It helps them fan the console warrior bullshit when they can say "Play the _____ version of this game if you want to actually play multiplayer hurrr hurrr". Sony and Microsoft don't want to have unified multiplayer because it hurts them in a capital sense. If someone was going to buy a game that is available on both consoles and they have the choice between the one your friends play and the one that looks better, with a fully unified multiplayer they would just choose the one that looks/controls better and be done with it (Which is the ideal position for the consumer to be in, but Sony and Microsoft both want to keep you invested in their brand bubble at any cost). For what it's worth, this game is probably going to be the one I get with my PS4. I've been pretty much sold on it since the first E3 showing it had, and I'm really digging the Demon's souls-esque multiplayer. I'm probably going to go on media blackout here so as not to spoil myself on too much of the game before it launches.
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Chaltab posted:Have we seen any actual current gen footage of the game? Or even screens? I rather doubt I'm going to own a PS4 any time soon, but I don't want to get the game on PS3 and it turns out to be ugly as hell and run like crap because it's doing too much for This Gen to handle. This is from a few pages ago but yes and the textures look terrible https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIK8Mm1-Jdg
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Sep 5, 2013 18:29
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Boing posted:That's probably the point of the baton. I like it as a signature weapon for Aiden, it's not normally seen as a cool weapon in fiction but they make it work. Hey man, me and my baton got a lot of work done in Deus Ex. Finding "Paul's Blackjack" in Shifter was particularly awesome.
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Sep 5, 2013 18:42
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I love seeing open world game demonstrations where people walk at normal speed and park their cars properly instead of what every player actually does (constantly jump around like an idiot and leave their car in the middle of the street blocking three lanes of traffic).
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Sep 5, 2013 20:40
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I love seeing open world game demonstrations where people walk at normal speed and park their cars properly instead of what every player actually does (constantly jump around like an idiot and leave their car in the middle of the street blocking three lanes of traffic). Seems like if you're constantly joining other people's games, looking inconspicuous is going to be hugely important.
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Sep 5, 2013 21:11
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The Casualty posted:Seems like if you're constantly joining other people's games, looking inconspicuous is going to be hugely important. I think one of the things that I am looking forward to is joining someones game and seeing how long I can follow them around without them getting suspicious. Not interacting with them at all until they notice me.
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Terper posted:I just laughed at that part. "It's not so black and white, we want to make real moral choices. Now, do you steal this single mother's money y/n". This moral choice seemed laughable, on top of murdering a bunch of random security dudes and firing willy-nilly at that hacker across a crowded square with zero regard for all the people in the way. I was under the impression that the game was ostensibly about a vigilante anti-hero, but the video made the guy seem like a psycho killer.
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Sep 5, 2013 21:36
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I hope they have realistic traffic for I-94. Backed up traffic every weekday from 3:00 to 7:00 as far as the eye can see! 
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Skuzal posted:I think one of the things that I am looking forward to is joining someones game and seeing how long I can follow them around without them getting suspicious. Not interacting with them at all until they notice me. I really want to be able to interact with things like the police barricades before they know I'm there. I can't imagine anything more satisfying in this game than popping one of those things up while another player is going 90MPH over one when they thought they were alone.
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Sep 5, 2013 22:25
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I love seeing open world game demonstrations where people walk at normal speed and park their cars properly instead of what every player actually does (constantly jump around like an idiot and leave their car in the middle of the street blocking three lanes of traffic). There had better be consequences against me leaving my car in the middle of the street or driving in the wrong lane. At the very least a ticket from the parking inspector.
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Sep 5, 2013 22:51
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Dude if every single car isn't festooned with orange tickets under the windshield then they will not have captured the experience of parking in Chicago.
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Sep 5, 2013 22:54
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What will be the most insane thing you can hack? Maybe you can hack like a power plant or something and cause a catastrophe. Some insane hacks that would be fun to do in game can even be performed today, with bolt cutters. Will Aiden carry bolt cutters?
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Raneman posted:What will be the most insane thing you can hack? Maybe you can hack like a power plant or something and cause a catastrophe. Well, one of the trailers does show you shutting off the entire cities power grid. So, yeah I guess you can.
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I still think it's pretty silly to hack everything with a cell phone, when you could just spare the effort and use bolt cutters. Please have working bolt cutters.
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With the online element I wonder if someone could screw up your goals, like if you were chasing down a criminal you just prevented doing a crime and the other player runs him over, who would be credited for preventing a crime and be penalized for the criminals death.
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Leb posted:I mean, I get that it's a game and all but when the whole point of the game is total information awareness, we're supposed to simply allow that the breach of a federal facility and the murder of 10 government employees is going to go unnoticed outside of the little red circle on your minimap?
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Terper posted:I just laughed at that part. "It's not so black and white, we want to make real moral choices. Now, do you steal this single mother's money y/n". I want to steal some CEO's money and transfer it to the mother's account 
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Sep 6, 2013 07:06
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Capn Beeb posted:I want to steal some CEO's money and transfer it to the mother's account I really hope this is an option. I totally want to be cyberpunk Robin Hood.
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Skuzal posted:I think one of the things that I am looking forward to is joining someones game and seeing how long I can follow them around without them getting suspicious. Not interacting with them at all until they notice me. I want to stand around watching while they do something. Just staring. Then when he notices me, I'll run off in a moment.
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I think I'll spend my time in this game in other people's games pretending to be an NPC whose "player detection and avoidance" mechanics don't work. Basically I'm going to do my best to act like a dumb AI who always stands and walks right in front of and/or around the player and just won't move out of the loving way and see how long I can last.
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Sep 6, 2013 12:40
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I'll follow the player around at night time and keep hacking the streetlights to turn them off.
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Stroth posted:I really hope this is an option. I totally want to be cyberpunk Robin Hood. Totally this. Also taking money from those who have stuff like 'Funds pro-life organisations' in their little details bit. Edit: I'd love to see how many different details there are that the NPCs can have in their little pop up profile.
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Geokinesis posted:Totally this. I can see the execs at Ubisoft now. "Do you steal from the pro-life tobacco exec or the ACLU lawyer that spends weekends as a Planned Parenthood escort? Moral choice!"  (I'm stealing from both. gently caress em.)God, I just hope they don't make everyone a stereotype. KillHour fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Sep 6, 2013 |
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KKKlean Energy posted:I'll follow the player around at night time and keep hacking the car barriers setting them off when they drive. 
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Get in front of them in a car and then just stop dead, not allowing them to pass in their car. Reverse and go forward a little every few seconds, to really sell the "broken ai" angle.
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KillHour posted:I can see the execs at Ubisoft now. They could have it so the richest people have the best security, so you can either steal from hundreds of poor people easily, or go to the extra effort to steal from a rich person just to feel better about yourself.
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limaCAT posted:
This. Also, how much do we know about the multiplayer mechanics? I haven't seen anything in the videos I've watched about how you stop a hack or how finding them works if they initiate a hack from far away and then just run like hell. The basic stuff, like what exactly are the stop hacking triggers? Obviously killing them works, but what else? Does identifying them stop it, or do you have to hack them to stop it? On the other side, how do you keep a hack going? What tools does the victim have to locate you? Does that "he's in this area" circle move with you? Does it just give the other player a starting point so you can flee that area and he's going to have a hell of a time finding you? Or does he get a new waypoint "go here" if you leave that area? I have no idea if we know any of this yet, I'm just really curious as to what mechanics are going to exist and how cat and mouse it has the potential to be. If maybe you'll end up in a chase where you want to keep a good distance between you and your victim but not stray too far. Kinda wonder how much warning you'll get about going out of range. Hopefully you get a couple of warnings and then a short countdown to losing signal or something. Really curious as to what we haven't seen yet.
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dogstile posted:Get in front of them in a car and then just stop dead, not allowing them to pass in their car. Reverse and go forward a little every few seconds, to really sell the "broken ai" angle. Then get out of the car, then back in, then out again. Turn around in an odd circle. And just when he gets around the car... BOOM hacked barrier.
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So it sounds like there's two versions of the "second screen experience" that Ubi was pimping at E3: Either the helpful stuff they demo'd, or being an omniscient rear end in a top hat.
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404GoonNotFound posted:So it sounds like there's two versions of the "second screen experience" that Ubi was pimping at E3: Either the helpful stuff they demo'd, or being an omniscient rear end in a top hat. All these multiplayer options sound amazing
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