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Bozza posted:Me and some of the old LF crowd once got directions to The Chandos off a member of TSG back in the day after bailing out of another Sam Smiths. What was the most obscure Trot paper? 1917? I always end up with loads of papers so I have something to giggle at in the train back home.
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Blacknose posted:I think worker's hammer is the best I've seen anyone manage. I think it was Workers Hammer, and they weren't actually Trots, they were mad Stalinists who were running a North Korea Solidarity campaign 
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Bozza posted:I think it was Workers Hammer, and they weren't actually Trots, they were mad Stalinists who were running a North Korea Solidarity campaign Isn't Workers Hammer from the Sparts? The ones whose only notable activity is counter protesting other tiny left factions?
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Tragic Peculiar posted:Isn't Workers Hammer from the Sparts? The ones whose only notable activity is counter protesting other tiny left factions? 
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I've heard a rumour about two counter-protest groups ending up fighting each other and getting arrested en masse (well there were only about 40 people involved) at Royal Mint Street (top end of Cable Street) but only a rumour, anyone else heard anything about this? I haven't heard a thing about this. All the groups I follow (where I get 90+ % of my info from) haven't mentioned it, and none of them are fans of UAF and are usually quick to highlight things like this. There hasn't even been an EDL 'contributor' pop up and post anything along those lines either. e1: We've had this smart idea though:  People get loving jail time for being an idiot on Twitter, and this poo poo happens constantly on EDL pages. e2: "Hel Gower, EDL head of proper gander posted:He has his happy head on today!!! 24 mile sponsored walk around Tower Hamlets today. If you would like to make a donation and have a Paypal account you can pay direct using delmerchandise@gmail.com  He's doing a walk around Tower Hamlets today to raise money for oh wait... 3-hit edit combo! He's gotten lost already...  Live updates on Twitter Here KayTee fucked around with this message at 13:04 on Sep 13, 2013 |
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KayTee posted:I haven't heard a thing about this. All the groups I follow (where I get 90+ % of my info from) haven't mentioned it, and none of them are fans of UAF and are usually quick to highlight things like this. It was a rumour I'd heard from a friend who works in the area - I know there had been a lot of arrests (possibly a kettling and mass arrest) of the antifa demonstrators outside of the approved areas, it's possible he misinterpreted what he saw. My friend who was at the Altab Ali Park official counterdemo was massively amused by the sharp words (but no violence) breaking out between the Trots, the local Labour Party, and supporters of the "independent" Mayor of LBTH, Lutfur Rahman, after the latter did his normal thing of trying to make it all about him (in his defence he has been one of the driving forces behind the legal attempts to keep EDL out, but he's... not well-liked in the borough.
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EDL thugs shut down an anti-racism gig by threatening the 16 year old girl who organised the show. They then tried to paint it as some sort of victory. This feels somewhat low even by EDL standards, especially the fact that they bragged about it. Painting themselves as the racist, violent thugs we know them to be. Link: http://ipswichspy.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/thugs-force-pub-closure-cancelling-anti-racism-gig/
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Faster than a Pakastani driven taxi! More powerful than a thousand WW2 servicemen! Able to insult many races with a single slur! It's Fashman! Who draws his strength from an increasingly right wing friendly media environment! You know I would not be surprised if they did expose themselves to radiation to try and become powerful. Mind Loving Owl fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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Mind Loving Owl posted:You know I would not be surprised if they did expose themselves to radiation to try and become powerful. It'd work probably, they're already a cancer after all.
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Mind Loving Owl posted:Faster than a Pakastani driven taxi! Fash! Aa-aah! Hater of the immigrants! Fash! Aa-aah! He's an imbecile!
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Stottie Kyek posted:Fash! Aa-aah! Hater of the immigrants! OPEN FIRE! CALL ALL WEAPONS! DISPATCH WAR ROCKET AJAX TO BRING BACK HIS BODY!
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baka kaba posted:I'm honestly confused, is that guy part of the fash group or mocking them? Yes.
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Tommeh goes into posh shop, gets mouthed by worker, complains to management who give him a meal of steak & chips worth as much as £25, suspends worker. (Guardian Link)quote:Robinson, a convicted criminal who leads anti-Islam protests that have often turned violent and have been marked by racist chanting, said the assistant asked his friend if he was with the EDL leader and then said "gently caress off, I am not serving you". Sadly the article doesn't go on to that "Tommy Robinson" is an assumed name, but it does mention that he's facing resistance elsewhere because owners of establishments know he's a complete prick.
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Good to see the Selfridges facebook page full of support for the employee.
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ekuNNN posted:Good to see the Selfridges facebook page full of support for the employee. Internet fash patrol have turned up now though demanding the bloke be fired. Be interested which way this one goes for your man.
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He'll probably be quietly fired for bringing bother for the management. The bosses will be much more worried about thugs smashing up the shop then their employee's principles. Heck what if he has other principles?
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"Selfridges have lifted a suspension on a member of staff who refused to serve EDL leader Tommy Robinson at the upmarket shop."  http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/507072/20130918/e-english-defence-league-selfridges-musims-suspension.htm
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Sep 18, 2013 14:33
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Wow that is good news! Glad I was wrong to be cynical for once.
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ReV VAdAUL posted:Wow that is good news! Glad I was wrong to be cynical for once. I feel like at will employment in the US makes people really loving bitter. I haven't seen any fascists around in Denmark for a while, though I suppose that could be because I moved up north and it's pretty much all socialists up here.
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What north precious Århus still has neo-nazi violence on a nearly monthly basis, and nazi organization in Odense and southern Jylland remains growing.
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Demiurge4 posted:I feel like at will employment in the US makes people really loving bitter. Depressingly the first two years on a job (assuming it isn't a zero hours contract, which is even worse) is pretty much right to work in the UK. The guy was lucky he'd been in the job so long. In a way I hope the EDL go en masse to Selfridge's to rub in their right to be served and show the posh shoppers just how unpleasant they are.
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Tias posted:What north precious I live in Aalborg. There is a significant amount of biker gangs, and they have a lot of control but they aren't nazi's. That said I am concerned that the growing number of youths that are placed in institutions are an easy target for fascist recruitment. I used to live in Viborg and it was pretty light as well. Århus and Odense are both very big cities though which helps those numbers along.
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ReV VAdAUL posted:Depressingly the first two years on a job (assuming it isn't a zero hours contract, which is even worse) is pretty much right to work in the UK. The guy was lucky he'd been in the job so long. So far the only action suggestion they've put forward is a boycott. It's probably awfully classist, but this response caused a few giggles from the groups I follow. What's causing the most facepalms on the boards at the moment is the utter refusal to connect Tommeh's visit to Selfridge's (granted it was his friend doing the buying) and his subsequent visit to a casino (which he was also turfed out from, and may have even be barred from the premises already) almost immediately following his "charity" walk, the description of which changed from "unnamed charity" to "Tommeh's Legal Fund" while the walk was ongoing. I'll do a big post about it over the weekend.
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So ol' Tommeh's running scams too? Truly shocking, I say.
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It's sort of sad to watch a low-grade criminal rip all these people off because they're too stupid to connect the dots of the last four years.
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Mind Loving Owl posted:I'm amazed Tommeh found someone, let alone multiple people, stupider than him. How do you think he became head of the EDL?
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Demiurge4 posted:I live in Aalborg. There is a significant amount of biker gangs, and they have a lot of control but they aren't nazi's. That said I am concerned that the growing number of youths that are placed in institutions are an easy target for fascist recruitment. I used to live in Viborg and it was pretty light as well. Århus and Odense are both very big cities though which helps those numbers along. I currently stay at a live-in rehab facility, and I think I'm finally starting to grasp how easy it is for racist and fascist ideals to get hold of people. Several of my co-patients are rehabilitated, compassionate and self-reflective, but they still have to bitch about immigrants. They say it's "a serious issue", but I think they just need someone on a lower rung to kick because they have been abused themselves.
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"You can treat people as badly as you please as you other people even worse." Reads the first line of the secret capitalist scum gently caress handbook.
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Mind Loving Owl posted:"You can treat people as badly as you please as you other people even worse." Reads the first line of the secret capitalist scum gently caress handbook. Capitalists can probably afford editors, tbh.
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botany posted:Capitalists can probably afford editors, tbh. They downsized the editing department.
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glitchkrieg posted:Oh look, Vice have written a piece about the Selfridge's incident that completely misses the point. Ah yes, hide your whiny liberalism in weak attempts at humour: quote:That said, however tempting it may be, try not to be like that sales assistant in Selfridges, who – when confronted with "a friend of Tommy Robinson" just trying to get through life by buying an Armani sweatshirt – refused to serve him. Because that is not helping anyone's anything. Robinson, who was there to watch his friend buy an Armani sweatshirt, recorded the stand-off on his phone. "I could tell he was a Muslim," the EDL leader is reported as saying, "because he had a 'Mo' in his name."
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You can practically smell the smug self-satisfaction dripping off that piece. Them poor widdle fash, don't you bad lefties know better than to mistreat them so? 
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Haha the "civic duty to serve everyone" line stinks of the axe murderer problem. That being in deontological morality you have a duty to always do the moral thing regardless of the consequences. So if an axe murderer asks you where their axe is you are duty bound to tell them because lying is wrong. Though I'm not sure serving Tommeh luxury goods at a department store can be spun as a categorical imperative but whatever. Now if you are not the axe murderer's intended victim or a white affluent liberal who has nothing directly to fear from the EDL doing the moral thing regardless of consequences is a great deal easier to do. KayTee posted:I'll do a big post about it over the weekend.
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Mind Loving Owl posted:I'm amazed Tommeh found someone, let alone multiple people, stupider than him. The EDL leadership and to an extent the media have managed to wash everyone opposing the EDLs aims and methods as unwashed communists who hate the UK, terrorists and pardons. They won't believe a bad word said against him.
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ReV VAdAUL posted:Haha the "civic duty to serve everyone" line stinks of the axe murderer problem. That being in deontological morality you have a duty to always do the moral thing regardless of the consequences. So if an axe murderer asks you where their axe is you are duty bound to tell them because lying is wrong. Though I'm not sure serving Tommeh luxury goods at a department store can be spun as a categorical imperative but whatever. Kant doesn't actually say this. Not lying is a negative duty: you shouldn't lie, but that doesn't mean you have answer every question asked. People are not entitled to an answer for any question they might ask, especially if you're being wronged by the asking: the murderer who threatens you, the sticky-nose who asks personal questions to humiliate you, etc. 'gently caress off I'm not telling you' is a perfectly honest answer.
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Kieselguhr Kid posted:Kant doesn't actually say this. Not lying is a negative duty: you shouldn't lie, but that doesn't mean you have answer every question asked. People are not entitled to an answer for any question they might ask, especially if you're being wronged by the asking: the murderer who threatens you, the sticky-nose who asks personal questions to humiliate you, etc. 'gently caress off I'm not telling you' is a perfectly honest answer. Much like "gently caress off I'm not serving you".
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