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DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


There are a few old Olympus PEN bodies that would be in that budget as well.

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Edward IV
Jan 15, 2006

whatever7 posted:

I would try out the 35mm because you wouldn't have AF problem with the 14mm or the zoom.

In term of AF speed
14>= 18-55 > 23 > 35 > 60
I don't know where the 18mm or the 27mm fall, but should be close to the zoom.

When you get the gears make sure the body firmware is 2.0 and the lens firmware is 3.0.

I should have also mentioned that my NEX-5 is out of commission because I misplaced the battery charger along with the spare battery and I have no other way to charge the drat camera. (Why couldn't they have charged from USB to begin with Sony? :argh:) So, the X-E1 will be my only camera besides the one on my Nokia Lumia 920. Would the 27mm and 35mm be an adequate for an outdoor outing like apple picking?

Or, assuming I don't find the charger in time, should I just cave in and spend the $40 for a replacement charger (Or $20 for this third-party charger) so that I can have the flexibility of my Tamron 17-50mm as a backup?

Bob Socko
Feb 20, 2001

Edward IV posted:

I should have also mentioned that my NEX-5 is out of commission because I misplaced the battery charger along with the spare battery and I have no other way to charge the drat camera. (Why couldn't they have charged from USB to begin with Sony? :argh:) So, the X-E1 will be my only camera besides the one on my Nokia Lumia 920. Would the 27mm and 35mm be an adequate for an outdoor outing like apple picking?
It's a bit on the narrow side, but you could absolutely make do with those two lenses. Just don't expect to shoot any panoramas of the orchard.

B&H claims they'll get the Fuji 23mm f/1.4 in stock on October 3rd. I actually called them and they said that while they could be off by a day or two, they're pretty confident that they'll have a shipment by then. I hope so - I'm going to Cabo in mid-October and I'd love to have that lens for walkaround use.

ThisQuietReverie
Jul 22, 2004

I am not as I was.

hcenvirons posted:

Has anyone seen any plans for a EF to X-mount adapter with an aperture ring? I'd unload some of my gear no matter which I got, but I'd at least like to keep using my macro lens and the thrifty fifty.

I think the ones out now with a ring have a built-in aperture that sort of lets you stop down between the lens and body but I don't believe they work very well so be wary of those. It's far less hassle to just shoot with native XF lenses both in adaptability and weight/size.


RustedChrome posted:

If you want to use EF lenses you may as well just get an SL1.

Also, Fujirumors posted a leaked press release for the X-100 firmware update that got delayed. It's so nice that Fuji is adding features to the X-100 instead of holding them back to drive sales of the X-100s. It's almost like a company run by human beings who think of customers as other human beings!

http://www.fujirumors.com/first-sample-taken-with-fujis-new-x-mount-camera-another-leaked-x100-press-release-at-fujifilm-middle-east/

http://www.kevinmullinsphotography.co.uk/personal-photography-2/tokyo-fujifilm.html will probably be of interest to you.

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

Edward IV posted:

I should have also mentioned that my NEX-5 is out of commission because I misplaced the battery charger along with the spare battery and I have no other way to charge the drat camera. (Why couldn't they have charged from USB to begin with Sony? :argh:)
Now you know what "like no other" is referring to :(

whatever7
Jul 26, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Edward IV posted:

I should have also mentioned that my NEX-5 is out of commission because I misplaced the battery charger along with the spare battery and I have no other way to charge the drat camera. (Why couldn't they have charged from USB to begin with Sony? :argh:) So, the X-E1 will be my only camera besides the one on my Nokia Lumia 920. Would the 27mm and 35mm be an adequate for an outdoor outing like apple picking?

Or, assuming I don't find the charger in time, should I just cave in and spend the $40 for a replacement charger (Or $20 for this third-party charger) so that I can have the flexibility of my Tamron 17-50mm as a backup?

I always buy a cheap travel charger and a couple spare battery from ebay whenever I buy a camera. The shipping time is usually 1 whole month from China/HK but its so cheap so it doesn't matter.

You can shoot with just a 35mm lens if you want to. For wider shot just shoot a few more in manual mode and stitch up in Photoshop. XE1 also has pretty useful panorama mode. It can only do panorama with the camera in landscape position.

If you want to make the 35/1.4 more useful, I recommend a neutral density filter so you can use the lens wide open in day time. For example, you can start out with this cheap one, Hoya make better ones in case you want to spend the money. If you have a NEX lens with 52mm or smaller filter thread, you can get a step up adapter and use it too.

While people normally use a wider lens (or a zoom) for an Apple picking event (or whatever). If you go to a few more events like this you will find sometimes its good to bring odd equipments because it forces you shoot creatively.

whatever7 fucked around with this message at 11:26 on Sep 17, 2013

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Edward IV posted:

(Why couldn't they have charged from USB to begin with Sony? :argh:)

This drives me

up

the

wall

.. The circuitry to make this happen couldn't have made the camera all THAT much bigger. I've built battery chargers before and if I can make them small surely Sony can fit it into a tiny thing :argh:

The only solace I find is in the fact that the NEX basically gets great battery life with my usage patterns. I take maybe a few dozen shots a week and I only really need to charge when I think "oh maybe I should charge the camera".

Musket
Mar 19, 2008
Nex Fullframe for $3k and its included features:

Babbys first Sony menu
Babbys first art filters
Babbys first lens line up
A Nikon D610 brochure

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
What's the difference between the X-A1 and X-M1? Just the trans sensor?

Musket
Mar 19, 2008

Martytoof posted:

What's the difference between the X-A1 and X-M1? Just the trans sensor?

Yes and build materials. I honestly would skip the XA1 as a current Nex user. Its taking a step back. XM1 or XE1. Honestly XE1 for the viewfinder.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Yeah, not really thinking about buying one, I just didn't know what niche it fit into. Seemed like pretty much an XM-1.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

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Edward IV posted:

I should have also mentioned that my NEX-5 is out of commission because I misplaced the battery charger along with the spare battery and I have no other way to charge the drat camera. (Why couldn't they have charged from USB to begin with Sony? :argh:) So, the X-E1 will be my only camera besides the one on my Nokia Lumia 920. Would the 27mm and 35mm be an adequate for an outdoor outing like apple picking?

Or, assuming I don't find the charger in time, should I just cave in and spend the $40 for a replacement charger (Or $20 for this third-party charger) so that I can have the flexibility of my Tamron 17-50mm as a backup?

Wait, the NEX-5 doesn't charge through USB? I know my NEX-3 can.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Elliotw2 posted:

Wait, the NEX-5 doesn't charge through USB? I know my NEX-3 can.

Nnnnnoooope.

ChirreD
Feb 21, 2007
Dutch, baby!

Martytoof posted:

What's the difference between the X-A1 and X-M1? Just the trans sensor?

And there's a little rumor (hope) that it has the same/similar sensor as the x100. Which some people really prefer over x-trans.

Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.

ChirreD posted:

And there's a little rumor (hope) that it has the same/similar sensor as the x100. Which some people really prefer over x-trans.

While the x-trans sensor in the X100s performs miles better than the X100 sensor, especially in ISO, I prefer how the X100 renders colours a bit more (the X100s can look a little sterile sometimes) and feel the slightest touch of remorse when I see the photos taken by the person I sold it to.

Musket
Mar 19, 2008

Martytoof posted:

Yeah, not really thinking about buying one, I just didn't know what niche it fit into. Seemed like pretty much an XM-1.

The XA1 is aimed at curious folks/low budget people looking to use the Xsystem. Honestly idk really why they didnt just lower the XM1 costs and let it come in 2 flavors, cheap as poo poo plastic mount 16-50 kitlens version and 18-55 OIS kickass kit lens version.

whatever7
Jul 26, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Cacator posted:

While the x-trans sensor in the X100s performs miles better than the X100 sensor, especially in ISO, I prefer how the X100 renders colours a bit more (the X100s can look a little sterile sometimes) and feel the slightest touch of remorse when I see the photos taken by the person I sold it to.


Do the samples remind you of the X100? (Flickr set here)


Next year its going to be touch for me to choose from a used X100 or a closed out discontinued XA1.

edit: quoted the wrong guy.

whatever7 fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Sep 17, 2013

Digital Jesus
Sep 11, 2001

Hmm that X-A1 is actually a really nice price point for Fuji to hit. When people ask me about my X-E1 they generally balk at the idea of spending over a grand on a non-DSLR (hard mindset to break, I guess), but I think I could have pointed a lot of people at the X-A1 at half the price, even if the sensor and kit lens are a little different/inferior.

Aargh
Sep 8, 2004

Digital Jesus posted:

Since we're still on Fujichat (let's face it, this is the Fuji X thread), does anyone have a case they particularly like for their X-E1? I'd kinda like something that can go inside or clip onto a larger bag, as I have a Timbuk2 Sycamore that goes with my everywhere. I was thinking about maybe a Crumpler Haven or something but I'm interested in other peoples thoughts.

I have a crumpler haven for my XPro1, 35mm and 18-55. It's pretty good, when I travel I'll throw it in my Complete Seed, if I'm walking about town it'll go in my Barney Rustle, on my (now stolen) motorbike it fit well in my Kriega (both R35 and US20) though if I'm taking my flash and other gear I'll need my 5 million dollar home.

In case you haven't noticed I own way too much crumpler poo poo, as well as bags in general.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007
Glad to finally be a month away (maybe less if there are leaks) from being able to decide what sorta mirrorless system I want to go with. Sony's development of full-frame is tempting (I'm an OG 5D shooter, or used to be until I got too lazy to carry it everywhere), but they seem really dedicated to having a lovely lens selection. An X-E2 with articulating LCD might be enough to get me to bail on my NEX-3, although I'd be lying if the OM-D's features/lens selection weren't tempting.

Costello Jello
Oct 24, 2003

It had to start somewhere
Does the OM-D have the ability to let you frame/shoot in 3:2?

Digital Jesus
Sep 11, 2001

Aargh posted:

I have a crumpler haven for my XPro1, 35mm and 18-55. It's pretty good, when I travel I'll throw it in my Complete Seed, if I'm walking about town it'll go in my Barney Rustle, on my (now stolen) motorbike it fit well in my Kriega (both R35 and US20) though if I'm taking my flash and other gear I'll need my 5 million dollar home.

In case you haven't noticed I own way too much crumpler poo poo, as well as bags in general.

Thanks, that's pretty much what I wanted to hear :) I think I'll grab a medium Haven.

I love Crumpler too. I had a 6 Million Dollar Home until recently, but I sold it with my Canon gear. I also have a medium Skivvy messenger bag which I love. I've bought a couple of Timbuk2's now which are also great; I love being able to customise them and shipping to Australia is reasonable-ish.

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

Costello Jello posted:

Does the OM-D have the ability to let you frame/shoot in 3:2?

4:3, 16:9, 3:2, 1:1, and 3:4 are the options I'm seeing on mine.

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




My brother's looking into getting a camera. Is there a body with good video support?

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Certain NEX bodies have great video support. A lot of M4/3 cameras are used by indie filmmakers and are known for being good and reliable in the video field. It depends on what he's looking for aside from "good video" because the short answer is "yes" :q:

I think the general consensus is to stay away from Fuji if you are looking for video. It's there, but it's nothing to write home about. I don't own one so I can't really comment on anything other than what I've read.

Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.

The Panasonic GH2 is very highly regarded as a video camera. I've shot a decent amount of video on my E-M5, the stabilization is great but you don't get a lot of control over the video otherwise, plus you need to by a dumb Olympus mic adapter that takes over the hotshoe.

Bob Socko
Feb 20, 2001

Martytoof posted:

I think the general consensus is to stay away from Fuji if you are looking for video. It's there, but it's nothing to write home about. I don't own one so I can't really comment on anything other than what I've read.
Definitely avoid Fuji for video. Video is an afterthought on the system, I found it very awkward to use when my boss asked me to film some stuff for work.

daspope
Sep 20, 2006

If you are interested in the gh2, the panasonic g6 is more or less a gh2 in an updated camera body and it has focus peaking. Get whichever is cheaper.

Frobbe
Jan 19, 2007

Calm Down

Elliotw2 posted:

Wait, the NEX-5 doesn't charge through USB? I know my NEX-3 can.

The nex-5r does charge from usb, it's just the earlier nex-5 models can't.

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

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Rated PG-34 posted:

My brother's looking into getting a camera. Is there a body with good video support?

There's a cine thread in the parent forum, Creative Convention, but from what I remember these are a great option if you want primarily video.

http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera

It'll do photos but it's primarily targeted at video, and can do some of the fancy formats that things like a NEX can't.

The NEXs are great if you want a good sensor in a mirrorless body for still photos, with video capability that's decent. If your brother has a big budget, there should even be a full frame model coming out soon, which is going to be loving awesome.

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

Paul MaudDib posted:

There's a cine thread in the parent forum, Creative Convention, but from what I remember these are a great option if you want primarily video.

http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera

It'll do photos but it's primarily targeted at video, and can do some of the fancy formats that things like a NEX can't.

The NEXs are great if you want a good sensor in a mirrorless body for still photos, with video capability that's decent. If your brother has a big budget, there should even be a full frame model coming out soon, which is going to be loving awesome.

The first impressions of the pocket cinema are that it's a clusterfuck.

whatever7
Jul 26, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Ridiculous gadget porn for EM1+12-40mm (Taiwanese forum)

widunder
May 2, 2002
If I want something really cheap with a fast-ish prime that I can use my Canon FD lenses on, what should I be looking for? Not afraid to pick up something used.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

nemoulette posted:

If I want something really cheap with a fast-ish prime that I can use my Canon FD lenses on, what should I be looking for? Not afraid to pick up something used.

Probably a used NEX. The focus-peaking really helps with manual focusing, and you're only dealing with a 1.5x crop instead of m4/3's 2x. Although with the Olympus bodies, you do get in-body stabilization.

Digital Jesus
Sep 11, 2001

If any Aussies are keen to get into the Fuji X love, Harvey Norman have the X-E1 with 18-55 for $992.80. I doubt this will last very long, get on it ASAP.

http://www.harveynorman.com.au/fuji-x-e1-bundle-16mp-camera-18-55mm-lens.html

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

nemoulette posted:

If I want something really cheap with a fast-ish prime that I can use my Canon FD lenses on, what should I be looking for? Not afraid to pick up something used.

If you want really, really, really cheap then m43 is the way to go. A nex-3 on keh is 180 bucks, but you can get an olympus e-pl1 for 99 or a panasonic gf3 for 99.

Startyde
Apr 19, 2007

come post with us, forever and ever and ever

Mr. Despair posted:

If you want really, really, really cheap then m43 is the way to go. A nex-3 on keh is 180 bucks, but you can get an olympus e-pl1 for 99 or a panasonic gf3 for 99.

Results are still good, too. It's crazy how cheap the bodies are now on the used market. GF1+Tomioka 55mm—

I use the Fotodiox adapters, they seem to be the best of the cheap brands. Get yourself a body and start harassing some cats.

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

Yeah, those early m43 bodies don't have real good high iso, but I don't think the nex-3 is real steller either in that department. It's not until you get up to the -5n and e-p5 that the quality takes a big jump.

whatever7
Jul 26, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

nemoulette posted:

If I want something really cheap with a fast-ish prime that I can use my Canon FD lenses on, what should I be looking for? Not afraid to pick up something used.

I would get an used NEX5n body.

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widunder
May 2, 2002
Thanks guys!

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