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Maxwell Lord posted:I'm pretty sure if you cocked one ear to the wind that night you would have heard the sound of hundreds of thousands of people changing the channel at once.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 19:15 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 02:49 |
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It's pretty hilarious that he even wears the doo-rag in a tuxedo.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 19:26 |
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25 minutes until the debut of Glacier, Chris Jericho and THE NWO RUNS WILD http://psp-tv.com/r/greatestnitroinhistoryofoursport
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 00:34 |
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quote:After a 15-year babyface run that started by accident, Hulk Hogan turned heel amidst incredible heat in an angle that will be remembered for years as the climax of WCW's Bash at the Beach PPV show on 7/7 in Daytona Beach. edit: Count down to the Montreal Screwjob starts now quote:Bret Hart is currently not under contract. algebra testes fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Sep 18, 2013 |
# ? Sep 18, 2013 10:46 |
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For those curious, as far as I can tell the movie Hulk was filming never materialized.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 13:00 |
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Man, can you imagine a GDT for Bash at the Beach if it were to happen today? People would be going nuclear.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 13:53 |
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Half the thread would go nuclear because they thought it was cool. The other half would go nuclear because they read it was supposed to be Sting on nodq.com and WCW is loving up his push.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 14:13 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Man, can you imagine a GDT for Bash at the Beach if it were to happen today? People would be going nuclear. Size-wise, it would be a mega-thread that would cripple the SA servers.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 15:38 |
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There would be 40 pages of people posting HOLY poo poo, and then 40 pages of people asking what they missed. And then 40 pages of bitching about it.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 18:33 |
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Rodney the Piper posted:There would be 40 pages of people posting HOLY poo poo, and then 40 pages of people asking what they missed. And then 40 pages of bitching about it. "Yeah, Kevin Nash, who never drew a loving dime, is gonna save this company *eyes roll back so far I can see my brain*"
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 18:35 |
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flashy_mcflash posted:"Yeah, Kevin Nash, who never drew a loving dime, is gonna save this company *eyes roll back so far I can see my brain*" Razor Ramon's a midcard who hasn't done poo poo.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 18:56 |
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Rodney the Piper posted:Razor Ramon's a midcard who hasn't done poo poo. Yeah except all the smarks loved Razor and Diesel at the time, check and mate *Source: Kevin Nash
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 19:31 |
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I love how all the excuses on why Hogan can't turn heel are basically the same ones people use for Cena today.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 19:41 |
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Call Me Charlie posted:I love how all the excuses on why Hogan can't turn heel are basically the same ones people use for Cena today. Except in Cena's case he is a ratings mover while Hogan was not, he has several endorsement deals while Hogan had Pastamania and the WWE merchandising machine of 2013 dwarfs the WCW merchandise closet of 1996 to such a degree it's silly. Cena also doesn't have a prohibitively expensive contract that may not be worth it if his character doesn't freshen up.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 19:44 |
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Also at this point they've figured out how to react to Cena getting boo'd whereas they probably panicked like hell when it started with Hogan.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 19:45 |
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I loved reading that retro Observer. Hulk really is the King of the Carnies©, always putting himself in the right place at the right time to maximize his income.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 19:47 |
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Call Me Charlie posted:I love how all the excuses on why Hogan can't turn heel are basically the same ones people use for Cena today. John Cena already is a heel, but he's a heel aimed only at smarks. Smarks wants Cena to behave like a traditional heel just so they can cheer him. Cena is doing everything that smarks hate. Seriously, Cena in his current incarnation is a better heel for opponents like Bryna, Punk or RVD than any traditional heel chracter would be.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 19:52 |
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What's the story with Hogan's babyface run being started by accident? Wikipedia suggests it was because they used Iron Sheik as a transitional champ after Backlund refused to lose the title to Hogan. So I guess they originally planned on Hogan holding the title as a heel?
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 19:58 |
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triplexpac posted:Yeah except all the smarks loved Razor and Diesel at the time, check and mate "Also Kevin Nash's cameo in Grandma's Boy was Oscar-worthy."
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 19:59 |
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Schlitzkrieg Bop posted:What's the story with Hogan's babyface run being started by accident? Wikipedia suggests it was because they used Iron Sheik as a transitional champ after Backlund refused to lose the title to Hogan. So I guess they originally planned on Hogan holding the title as a heel? Wrong run, it's talking about the AWA. Hogan was a typical traveling territorial heel early in his career, which meant that he'd spend a few months to a year in a territory and then move to the next one when he was out of programs. He moved to the AWA for his next heel run in 1981, but got huge face pops so Verne immediately made him, well, his replacement Verne as the top face in the company instead. By the time Vince brought Hogan back to WWF in 1983, Hogan was one of the biggest face stars in the country, and he was intended to be the new WWF superface from day 1.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 20:01 |
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Oh okay, that makes sense. For some reason I thought he was working heel through his time in the AWA.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 20:03 |
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Schlitzkrieg Bop posted:Oh okay, that makes sense. For some reason I thought he was working heel through his time in the AWA. He was a heel in his first run in WWE (and got really racial with Tony Atlas) and was managed by Grand Wizard.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 20:06 |
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CopywrightMMXI posted:John Cena already is a heel, but he's a heel aimed only at smarks. Smarks wants Cena to behave like a traditional heel just so they can cheer him. Cena is doing everything that smarks hate. Seriously, Cena in his current incarnation is a better heel for opponents like Bryna, Punk or RVD than any traditional heel chracter would be. Think of it like Bret Hart in 1997. The smarks are Canada.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 20:57 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:He was a heel in his first run in WWE (and got really racial with Tony Atlas) and was managed by Grand Wizard. Its WWF. http://youtu.be/XqVHcQANNdE And his manager was Blassie. Grand Wizard never managed him.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 21:14 |
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coconono posted:Its WWF. Grand Wizard managed him when he was Terry "The Hulk" Boulder, iirc
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 21:38 |
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EugeneJ posted:Grand Wizard managed him when he was Terry "The Hulk" Boulder, iirc I can't find footage or wiki supporting this. Closest I have is Iron Sheik being managed by Grand Wizard(who died in 83). Hogan and Blassie were a thing for sure.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 21:56 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Man, can you imagine a GDT for Bash at the Beach if it were to happen today? People would be going nuclear. I remember the opposite of that kind of nuclear in Prodigy Wrestlechat for Halloween Havoc 98 and Starrcade.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 22:18 |
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Schlitzkrieg Bop posted:Oh okay, that makes sense. For some reason I thought he was working heel through his time in the AWA. It's also worth noting that Hogan got screwed out of both the AWA and NWA titles during his heeling days, but that was kind of the norm in that period with the traveling champions and Verne's stranglehold in the AWA. I guess you could say he was screwed out of the IWGP title too since he won the tournament but Inoki didn't create an actual championship until years later.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 22:55 |
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Bigass Moth posted:It's also worth noting that Hogan got screwed out of both the AWA and NWA titles during his heeling days, but that was kind of the norm in that period with the traveling champions and Verne's stranglehold in the AWA. I guess you could say he was screwed out of the IWGP title too since he won the tournament but Inoki didn't create an actual championship until years later. I don't think there was a time Hogan was ever in consideration for the NWA title. He wasn't even really that screwed out of the AWA title because as backwards as Vern was the major things keeping the belt off Hogan were the knowledge Hogan was about to jump and would jump regardless, plus the fact he was aligned with Inoki rather than Baba.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 22:57 |
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Two questions: 1) reading the Hogan contract info pre-NWO, I am shocked how close the NWO came to being really different? Would the NWO be way different with sting? 2) What would have happened if Dustin played ball on the Seven gimmick? I wonder if it coulda worked, IF, a big if, either A) WCW jumped on board with him shooting or B) he didn't shoot in the first place? E: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeFBBD8VbKc Him giving this speech in a Bonds jersey, and the irony, is not lost on me. A liar wearing a cheater's jersey to expose another liar. cucka fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Sep 19, 2013 |
# ? Sep 19, 2013 11:23 |
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cucka posted:1) reading the Hogan contract info pre-NWO, I am shocked how close the NWO came to being really different? Would the NWO be way different with sting? Considering what Hogan tried to do when Pillman was getting some real heat, I'd guess that he'd beat them all in short order, maybe Bischoff could keep that from happening until Starrcade 96.
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# ? Sep 19, 2013 12:03 |
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cucka posted:
I'm pretty sure it wasn't a shoot. I am 99% sure it was Vince Russo worked-shoot bullshit.
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# ? Sep 19, 2013 12:18 |
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cucka posted:1) reading the Hogan contract info pre-NWO, I am shocked how close the NWO came to being really different? Would the NWO be way different with sting? I think so, it was an incredibly hot angle coupled with a really well done heel turn by Hogan. I think, it'd have been big, but it wouldn't have been massive like it was. I mean we poo poo on Hogan for his flaws, but he has unmatched charisma, and that promo at Bash was a home run.
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# ? Sep 19, 2013 12:20 |
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LordPants posted:I think so, it was an incredibly hot angle coupled with a really well done heel turn by Hogan. I think, it'd have been big, but it wouldn't have been massive like it was. I mean we poo poo on Hogan for his flaws, but he has unmatched charisma, and that promo at Bash was a home run. What if they dodged Sting's lack of promo ability and had Nash be the voice? Could it have worked? Potentially, given Hogan's lack of politicing, could Nash have had less clout without Hogan? Or more? E: Randomly watching old Big Show. He is in way better shape now. It's kinda weird to say. I watched him clearing a battle royal on a random return. At debut he looked fat as poo poo. cucka fucked around with this message at 12:54 on Sep 19, 2013 |
# ? Sep 19, 2013 12:50 |
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Seven's intro owned.
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# ? Sep 19, 2013 13:12 |
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Wow, his music was surprisingly good.
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# ? Sep 19, 2013 14:44 |
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Watching old Giant/Big Show matches, especially against Hogan, are really funny because Giant bumps like a motherfucker for Hogan, and not like a seven footer should. He doesn't know his own size yet, in addition to being pretty green, and it's night and day from Big Show in his prime.
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# ? Sep 19, 2013 15:18 |
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CVagts posted:Watching old Giant/Big Show matches, especially against Hogan, are really funny because Giant bumps like a motherfucker for Hogan, and not like a seven footer should. He doesn't know his own size yet, in addition to being pretty green, and it's night and day from Big Show in his prime. I've never been a Show fan, but I loved the crap out of the moment the nWo beats him to a pulp, and they "retire" to the announcers' booth. They realize they left one of their bats in the ring, and order Vincent to retrieve it. When Vince picks it up, he showboats a little, posing over the Giant, who wakes up, and destroys Vincent, prompting the rest of the nWo to run back to the ring. What the hell was that all about?
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# ? Sep 19, 2013 15:26 |
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The Giant looks a lot bigger than Big Show. Was he wearing lifts in WCW?
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# ? Sep 19, 2013 15:29 |
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oldpainless posted:The Giant looks a lot bigger than Big Show. Was he wearing lifts in WCW? Probably, but also need to remember how much thinner he was back then, so it looks less proportionate than he does now.
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# ? Sep 19, 2013 15:33 |